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MineralMan

(152,030 posts)
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:22 AM Tuesday

The Very Idea of Someone Slashing the Bottom of the Reflecting Pool Is Ludicrous.

It would be impossible with any tool available to someone. Imagine cutting hundreds of feet of linoleum with a knife while it was on the floor. Now, imagine doing that under water you're wading in. Really? And nobody noticed you out there, either.

How would you do that?

Hell, most people can't successfully use a box cutter to open an Amazon box in one swipe.

It didn't happen. It couldn't happen. It's freaking impossible.

End of story!

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The Very Idea of Someone Slashing the Bottom of the Reflecting Pool Is Ludicrous. (Original Post) MineralMan Tuesday OP
AND while it is under water! PatSeg Tuesday #1
Yes. I went back and added the underwater thing to the OP. MineralMan Tuesday #3
He certainly does have quite the imagination, doesn't he? PatSeg Tuesday #20
Yeah, but his demented, shit-for-brains followers believe every word. Aristus Tuesday #6
And that is what's terrifying PatSeg Tuesday #21
The Headline, if it objectively true, would read.. thomski64 Tuesday #25
Intellectually bereft is a very apt description. 3catwoman3 Tuesday #46
OZONE kiri Tuesday #47
Steve Schmidt called it the "musings of an imbecile" AZ8theist Tuesday #87
We've all known he is a chronic liar PatSeg Tuesday #90
Cutting hundreds of feet of whatever it is with a box cutter *under water.* Ocelot II Tuesday #2
Yes. It's the same polyurea coating they put on garage floors. MineralMan Tuesday #5
It's Also Basically Painted On ProfessorGAC Tuesday #51
Right Woodwizard 22 hrs ago #99
Interesting ty electric_blue68 Tuesday #83
Was any scuba gear found? BootinUp Tuesday #4
Don't think so. MineralMan Tuesday #7
An on-line source says the depth of the Reflecting Pool varies.... 3catwoman3 Tuesday #48
Wading pool depth, right. MineralMan Tuesday #57
This gives you an idea of the depth Lochloosa Tuesday #69
Love that! Great scene from the movie! MineralMan Tuesday #71
"It was the happiest moment of my life." FailureToCommunicate Tuesday #92
Just the oxygen tank. It had the official Antifa Seal. AloeVera Tuesday #12
They must've been super stealthy to avoid these guys underpants Tuesday #23
More like popsdenver Tuesday #43
The pool is pretty shallow, you could do the job with a snorkel and mask Ocelot II Tuesday #28
I'd think someone would notice that activity, somehow. MineralMan Tuesday #59
If you were all covered with algae they'd assume you were just another blob of the stuff. Ocelot II Tuesday #72
Or the "Creature from the Green Trough." MineralMan Tuesday #73
Of course it is. This is the 21st century there are cameras 📷 everywhere. Srkdqltr Tuesday #8
Don't forget, "they lifted it up" underpants Tuesday #9
The coating on the bottom of the pool is a polyurea coating. MineralMan Tuesday #13
Right Woodwizard Tuesday #30
Good info lonely bird Tuesday #42
Once again, I am impressed by the vast array of expertise here on DU. 3catwoman3 Tuesday #50
No doubt Donvict got his kickback from his mar-a-largo neighbor. KS Toronado Tuesday #44
Here's what happened, you be the judge FakeNoose Tuesday #10
That's a great photo of this! MineralMan Tuesday #17
Did you notice the sheer perfection of the cut by the Antifa vandals? AloeVera Tuesday #33
I think it's perfect reflection of what kind of man he is. Give Peace A Chance Tuesday #81
In the upper photo, The Madcap Tuesday #35
I don't know, but someone said it wasn't dry yet FakeNoose Tuesday #77
And just why did they drive in/on it? 3catwoman3 Tuesday #52
It was a press photo op, and I think Chump is riding in the car in the middle FakeNoose Tuesday #76
Correct regarding coating concrete lonely bird Tuesday #74
Could you tell me how to post an image here? Bailey1122 Yesterday #97
I think this is a manifestation of Trumps dementia. 3_Limes Tuesday #11
Many things are products of Trump's dementia and general lack of knowledge. MineralMan Tuesday #14
It was those dastardly left wing lunatics IcyPeas Tuesday #15
Have we not figured it out? GusBob Tuesday #16
The claim someone "slashed" the coating reminds me of an old dirty joke jmowreader Tuesday #18
Yes, I think you're absolutely right about that. MineralMan Tuesday #19
Confusing the public with logical fallacies is as good as not releasing the Epstein Files!! bucolic_frolic Tuesday #22
Why is no one talking about the Rothschild's Space Laser? Who is covering it up? Midnight Writer Tuesday #24
Yes, we need the old version of . . . peggysue2 Tuesday #82
dump is doing what he always does MustLoveBeagles Tuesday #26
MaddowBlog-Scrambling to avoid blame for Reflecting Pool fiasco, Trump's defense turns farcical LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #27
"At the right time, you'll see it" johnnyfins Tuesday #29
"Give us time to make up some fake photos ". Diamond_Dog Tuesday #54
We'll see it right after we see his taxes. 2MuchNoise Tuesday #65
That must be the court where the public is not invited calimary Tuesday #84
Let me guess WinstonSmith4740 Tuesday #89
The contractor probably fed him that bullshit and he Klarkashton Tuesday #31
Turn the reflecting pool into a formal garden of roses, cherry trees, and Japanese Maples. SidneyR Tuesday #32
THAT is a GREAT idea!!! calimary Tuesday #49
renovated in 2012 or around there NJCher Tuesday #68
Didn't he make some comment months ago about a hypothetical knife cut in the Pool? PCIntern Tuesday #34
The Reflecting Pool damage reflects Trump's incompetence. It's right there, in your face, America. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Tuesday #36
The point of the lies is to change the story. maxsolomon Tuesday #37
But the administration that lies about absolutely everything said it happened! ChicagoTeamster Tuesday #38
Yes, but do you notice how little anyone is talking about Epstein now? Amaryllis Tuesday #39
Of course, but Epstein is just one of the things Trump is MineralMan Tuesday #40
Of course, but the point is all the atttention on reflecting pool takes it off a lot of vastly more important things. Amaryllis Tuesday #41
Also, the paint wouldn't delaminate like that with just a cut Martin Eden Tuesday #45
Well, there were 13 people, and they worked very hard in the dark dalton99a Tuesday #53
Standard Trump ever inflating lie LR3 Tuesday #70
He talks about it like it was BidenRocks Tuesday #55
Apologies if this is a stupid question, but terminology matters. 3catwoman3 Tuesday #56
It's a coating, not a liner. MineralMan Tuesday #58
Thank you. That is what I thought... 3catwoman3 Tuesday #66
Well, the general media are not helping people understand this. MineralMan Tuesday #67
Agreed. I call myself a word nerd, and am rather fanatic about precise word usage, proper grammar... 3catwoman3 Tuesday #79
Also, how did it grow from 250' to 300' to 350'? SamuelAdams Tuesday #60
You have to admit this is classic Donald Trump. gordianot Tuesday #61
I think it's confabulation Nasruddin Tuesday #62
If you looked at the initial application they rolled it on in sections Ritabert Tuesday #63
Wait! H2O Man Tuesday #64
Who remembers that phrase mercuryblues Tuesday #75
It was Lex Luthor. twodogsbarking Tuesday #78
Your comment on opening the Amazon box cracked me up! How true. Katinfl Tuesday #80
Sounds like a crime of passion to me coprolite Tuesday #85
The fact that this accusation is even being entertained is ludicrous. hadEnuf Tuesday #86
And to what end, right? swong19104 Tuesday #88
Too bad critical thinking skills are so lacking in the media and on the "right". debsy Tuesday #91
found the vandals - DRIVING on the freshly painted survace - JUSTICE FOR THE REFLECTING POOL!! TalenaGor Yesterday #93
This needs to be Blue_Roses Yesterday #96
make sure you.... William Gustafson Yesterday #94
I totally agree. Blue_Roses Yesterday #95
BS! Aussie105 Yesterday #98
Didn't the orange assclown drive a motorcade over the reflecting pool not too long ago? Crowman2009 21 hrs ago #100

MineralMan

(152,030 posts)
3. Yes. I went back and added the underwater thing to the OP.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:28 AM
Tuesday

before I read your post. You're absolutely right.

Aristus

(72,723 posts)
6. Yeah, but his demented, shit-for-brains followers believe every word.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:31 AM
Tuesday

Thank Whatever I'm not that intellectually bereft and deluded...

thomski64

(1,002 posts)
25. The Headline, if it objectively true, would read..
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:00 AM
Tuesday

Bullshit "President" lies about another fiasco that he and he alone owns!!!

kiri

(968 posts)
47. OZONE
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:49 PM
Tuesday

The correct treatment is with OZONE. It takes some scientific know-how to do it properly. But O3 reverts to pure oxygen, no residue, aftermath.

PatSeg

(54,009 posts)
90. We've all known he is a chronic liar
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:51 PM
Tuesday

but his lies are getting more and more ridiculous as time passes and the fact he doesn't realize that does sound like "raving lunacy".

Ocelot II

(131,798 posts)
2. Cutting hundreds of feet of whatever it is with a box cutter *under water.*
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:27 AM
Tuesday

And didn't Trump say that the special American Flag Blue coating would be so tough that it couldn't be cut with a knife?

MineralMan

(152,030 posts)
5. Yes. It's the same polyurea coating they put on garage floors.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:30 AM
Tuesday

It's really tough stuff. Hard to even scratch. It holds up under car traffic, foot traffic, and all sorts of abuses. It's not some thin plastic film like the fillm on top of a frozen pizza, for gooodness' sake.

ProfessorGAC

(77,668 posts)
51. It's Also Basically Painted On
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:55 PM
Tuesday

If properly applied on a correctly prepared surface, cutting a slit with a knife will not cause the coating to spall in a matter of days.
Infiltration under the unadulterated coating could cause it to peel, but a years, not days.
Completely agree that this is a preposterous lie.

Woodwizard

(1,349 posts)
99. Right
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:17 AM
22 hrs ago

I am on a garage-shop forum, one section is all about floors and coatings. There is always someone posting about the multi thousand dollar job they just had done is separating.

It is pretty much always from improper prep. I am fine with my bare concrete floor. But I use my shop it's not a showroom.

MineralMan

(152,030 posts)
7. Don't think so.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:31 AM
Tuesday

I think that pool is just wading pool deep, though. So, SCUBA wouldn't work all that well, anyhow.

3catwoman3

(30,163 posts)
48. An on-line source says the depth of the Reflecting Pool varies....
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:50 PM
Tuesday

...from 18" at the periphery to 30" in the middle.

MineralMan

(152,030 posts)
71. Love that! Great scene from the movie!
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 02:08 PM
Tuesday

Thanks so much for posting. Yes, it does show the depth of the pool very well.

Ocelot II

(131,798 posts)
28. The pool is pretty shallow, you could do the job with a snorkel and mask
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:21 AM
Tuesday

if you didn't mind getting covered with algae.

Ocelot II

(131,798 posts)
72. If you were all covered with algae they'd assume you were just another blob of the stuff.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 02:10 PM
Tuesday

underpants

(197,792 posts)
9. Don't forget, "they lifted it up"
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:31 AM
Tuesday

It said that. In context it sounded like he meant the flooring of the pool…..with one supposed cut….and they pried the pool lining (cement?) up with their finger tips.

MineralMan

(152,030 posts)
13. The coating on the bottom of the pool is a polyurea coating.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:37 AM
Tuesday

It bonds with the concrete, if things are properly prepared. So, it can't be peeled up.

Now, I doubt that the preparation for the coating was done properly. Before you apply the coating, the surface of the concrete has to be totally dry. If it's not, the coating will not bond well.

Further, if you try to use that stuff on concrete that gets damp from water seeping upwards, the bond will be broken and it will peel off.

There are a number of reasons for the coating to fail, and I suspect it just failed for one of those reasons. The chemicals poured into the water didn't help, either.

It was just a shoddy job, done poorly, and probably with a kickback to some shell corporation by the contractor. I mean, Trump doesn't do anything for free, as he has proven many times.

The coating was bound to fail. So, it did. The entire project was ill-conceived and poorly done.

Woodwizard

(1,349 posts)
30. Right
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:29 AM
Tuesday

The bottom was not prepared it was under water for a 100 years. They drained it and rushed the job SOP for trump.

lonely bird

(3,116 posts)
42. Good info
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:16 PM
Tuesday

For those out there who are unfamiliar with polyurea…

It is a subset of polyurethane. Both are polyols reacted with isocyanates. A polyurea has what is called an amine terminated polyol. This amine creates a polymer that can set in seconds depending upon what other additives are used to formulate the end coating.

Polyureas used on garage floors are built to cure much more slowly. This is so they can be applied by roller or squeegee and so that flake or colored aggregate can be broadcast into the coating. Sometimes spray applied polyureas are used for industrial floor applications. The spray application is done the vast majority of the time with heated, plural component spray rigs. The material is usually heated in the drums, agitated especially if pigmented, transfer pumps then send each component to tanks that are heated higher. From there the material is pumped through heated lines to the spray gun. The two components do not mix until they are sprayed. Set times can be as fast as 3 seconds.

Aromatic polyols will generally be more chemical resistant. Aliphatic polyols will be more UV stable. They can be built to be rigid or elastomeric. Generally, the higher the elongation then the lower the chemical resistance.

Regarding water infiltration from hydrostatic pressure, if the material is well bonded it will resist the hydrostatic pressure. The load is dependent on where the water table is and how far below the water table the application is. While we don’t know what the specifications were for this project or if there even was a specification, we can ask a few questions. Was the substrate tested for moisture content prior to coating? Polyureas do not like water when being applied. Both sides can react with moisture. To get past that problem using either very fast setting materials on dry concrete or moisture tolerant primers, usually epoxies but not always, can be applied.

This whole project was done fast with, imo, little inspection and oversight.

3catwoman3

(30,163 posts)
50. Once again, I am impressed by the vast array of expertise here on DU.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:54 PM
Tuesday

I've said, many times, that no matter how specialized a topic, there will be someone here who knows all about it.

KS Toronado

(24,168 posts)
44. No doubt Donvict got his kickback from his mar-a-largo neighbor.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:25 PM
Tuesday

It's how he's done business his entire life.

FakeNoose

(42,988 posts)
10. Here's what happened, you be the judge
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:32 AM
Tuesday


This photo was published 2 days ago ....


The green in the center of the pool is not only algae but also where the blue paint has detached from the bottom. Even if they clean out the algae (a major task) the pool is still ruined because the paint has not adhered properly.

On DU we have several painting and pool professionals who have told us that it's a complicated task with many time-consuming steps to prepare the concrete surface so that it accepts the paint and it remains adhered. These steps weren't done, or else they became undone when Chump's motorcade drove over the pool bottom.

I'm not an expert on this ... and we all know that Chump isn't either.

MineralMan

(152,030 posts)
17. That's a great photo of this!
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:44 AM
Tuesday

It is failing along the lines it was applied. More evidence of inadequate preparation of the base or improper application of the coating. It failed because of those things and because it was a bad idea from the very beginning.

Idiots hiring crooks do do work rarely end up with quality results.

That's the evidence of that.

AloeVera

(4,632 posts)
33. Did you notice the sheer perfection of the cut by the Antifa vandals?
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:34 AM
Tuesday

Straight down the middle of the pool, precision-cut, not one slip of the knife underwater? Antifa must take pride in its work!

Oh wait...that BLUE line means the lining is still there, smack dab in the middle. That can only mean... the vandals cut TWO perfect straight lines, several feet apart, just to be safe! Wait till Trump finds out, there will be HELL to pay! HELL!!

The Madcap

(2,157 posts)
35. In the upper photo,
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:50 AM
Tuesday

what is the shiny area at bottom right? If done properly, wouldn't the surface texture be uniform?

FakeNoose

(42,988 posts)
77. I don't know, but someone said it wasn't dry yet
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 04:03 PM
Tuesday

I'm not sure if that's paint, or maybe it was just leftover water that hadn't drained out yet. It seems like the pool floor was still being treated with something (if not paint) while the motorcade drove through.

FakeNoose

(42,988 posts)
76. It was a press photo op, and I think Chump is riding in the car in the middle
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 03:59 PM
Tuesday

He's just a crazy asshole, that's the real reason.

lonely bird

(3,116 posts)
74. Correct regarding coating concrete
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 02:26 PM
Tuesday

There are several important steps involved.

Concrete is a pain in the ass to coat correctly. Coating steel isn’t easy, per se but it is more straightforward imo.

3_Limes

(615 posts)
11. I think this is a manifestation of Trumps dementia.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:34 AM
Tuesday

He's somehow thinking that the reflecting pool has a liner. Like the PVC liners seen in above ground, backyard swimming pools, rather than (poorly) cured epoxy over concrete. If it were a vinyl sheet liner then knife damage and "pulling up" would make sense.

MineralMan

(152,030 posts)
14. Many things are products of Trump's dementia and general lack of knowledge.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:39 AM
Tuesday

He's unfit for the job he holds. But, we knew that all along.

GusBob

(8,325 posts)
16. Have we not figured it out?
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:41 AM
Tuesday

It does not matter what the truth is to anyone
especially his supporters

Its a waste of time and a distraction from important things to address the fantastic lies

He wants them repeated and waved around as the distraction

jmowreader

(53,544 posts)
18. The claim someone "slashed" the coating reminds me of an old dirty joke
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:44 AM
Tuesday

It's the one where the guy gets told by 20 different doctors he needs to have his penis amputated, and the 21st tells him there's no need to do that because it'll fall off on its own.

In this case, there was no need to slash the coating because it started failing the second it was applied.

bucolic_frolic

(56,308 posts)
22. Confusing the public with logical fallacies is as good as not releasing the Epstein Files!!
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:49 AM
Tuesday

I think that's what's going on here ... Dupe the Rubes!

peggysue2

(12,643 posts)
82. Yes, we need the old version of . . .
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 05:28 PM
Tuesday

Marjorie Taylor Greene. She was a leader in fantastical theories on all topics.

Her Jewish Space Laser story was right up there: offensive and stupid.

Antifa scuba divers? Lame. Although I gotta say, it made me laugh.

LetMyPeopleVote

(183,882 posts)
27. MaddowBlog-Scrambling to avoid blame for Reflecting Pool fiasco, Trump's defense turns farcical
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:15 AM
Tuesday

The debacle has become a metaphor of sorts, but not the one the president had in mind.

For Trump, the Reflecting Pool was supposed to be a totemic success story, demonstrating that his unique approach to problem-solving is fundamentally superior to his predecessors’.

This one project would serve as a metaphor for how awesome his awesomeness is.

Oops.
www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-06-23T13:15:51.138Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-reflecting-pool-fiasco-defense

There is a degree of irony surrounding Donald Trump’s Reflecting Pool fiasco. For months, the president obsessed over the renovation project, framing it as a metaphor for how awesome his awesomeness is: The Republican would tackle a lingering problem that vexed previous administrations, while delivering impressive results quickly and cheaply.....

With this in mind, the president came to realize in recent days that he needed an excuse — or preferably villains who could shoulder the blame for his own failures.

To that end, he began assuring the public over the weekend that he had succeeded beautifully, but that “vandals” intervened and ruined his triumph. At an unrelated White House event on Monday afternoon, the president went further, alleging nefarious criminals — some armed with “probably a box cutter or a knife of some kind” — attacked the Reflecting Pool with fertilizer and “did something to create the algae.”

The administration said five people were arrested on charges of vandalism, though without more information, it’s nearly impossible to say whether these people actually did anything wrong or whether they were charged as part of an inherently political exercise.

As is usually the case with Trump’s more outlandish claims, he has provided no evidence. At his Oval Office event on Monday afternoon, the president suggested the evidence exists, but he’s not yet prepared to share it.

Trump: I can't help it if somebody goes in with a knife and starts hacking it up. Uh... and we also have pictures of it.

Q: Can you release the photos?

Trump: At the right time you'll see it. You'll see it in court.

FactPost (@factpostnews.bsky.social) 2026-06-22T20:41:36.507704516Z

......For good measure, the president also decided to whine about Barack Obama as part of the same clumsy presentation, though it wasn’t altogether clear why.

O'KEEFE: You said the guy was gonna do the reflecting poll in a week for about a million dollars. It's been two months and .5 million


TRUMP: Are you ready? Barack Hussein Obama

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-06-22T20:26:19.660Z

Indeed, one of the most amazing things about this story is the number of familiar boxes it checks. Trump fails to deliver on bold promises? Check. He relies on no-bid contracts and a rushed process that fell apart? Check. He concocts weird theories about his perceived enemies? Check. He desperately spins a fantastical tale with evolving details in the hopes of avoiding blame for his own failure? Check. His aligned prosecutors scramble to help justify his dubious claims with equally dubious charges? Check.

2MuchNoise

(962 posts)
65. We'll see it right after we see his taxes.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 01:26 PM
Tuesday

And his healthcare plan, and infrastructure week.

calimary

(91,435 posts)
84. That must be the court where the public is not invited
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 07:56 PM
Tuesday

and not allowed to bear witness. ONLY relevant witnesses, and of those, ONLY those pre-approved AND carefully coached by the donald.

Klarkashton

(5,494 posts)
31. The contractor probably fed him that bullshit and he
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:33 AM
Tuesday

Embellished it with lies about having pictures.

He is mentally ill.

SidneyR

(248 posts)
32. Turn the reflecting pool into a formal garden of roses, cherry trees, and Japanese Maples.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:34 AM
Tuesday

Maybe a Ginkgo or two. Add some meandering paths lined with spirea hedges and hydrangeas. And some park benches.

calimary

(91,435 posts)
49. THAT is a GREAT idea!!!
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:51 PM
Tuesday

Get RID of the reflecting pool. Unless you’re planning to install decent water filtering and purification procedures. Costs more but donald, but what do you care? It’s not coming out of YOUR pocket.

But the mosquitos won’t be too happy…
Heck, by the time you’re done, they won’t want you, either.

NJCher

(43,807 posts)
68. renovated in 2012 or around there
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 01:41 PM
Tuesday

Obama and Bush put the required $$ into it. I think it was around $35 million. Nothing needed to be done to it but trump wanted it this unrealistic blue, which he couldn't carry off and which he made a gigantic mess of. All this money that is being spent is to straighten out trump's mess.

The idea is for the pool to connect the two monuments, so turning it into a park would not do that, despite the fact that the trees recommended upthread are very attractive. It doesn't visually carry off that mission, but if that's not important to anyone, a park would be fine.

We will be spending other money to straighten out trump's Iran mess. We will be paying and paying and paying for having someone this incompetent in such an important position.

Now American people: do you understand why you need to pay attention to national affairs and make an informed vote?

PCIntern

(28,796 posts)
34. Didn't he make some comment months ago about a hypothetical knife cut in the Pool?
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:44 AM
Tuesday

I seem to recall some form of idiocy.

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(2,427 posts)
36. The Reflecting Pool damage reflects Trump's incompetence. It's right there, in your face, America.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:50 AM
Tuesday

He needs to be removed from office.

maxsolomon

(39,410 posts)
37. The point of the lies is to change the story.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:56 AM
Tuesday

Now we're talking about his stupid, absurd lies and whether or why aren't true. Not the illegal procurement process, not the rush job that had no chance of success.

Mission accomplished.

MineralMan

(152,030 posts)
40. Of course, but Epstein is just one of the things Trump is
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:03 PM
Tuesday

trying to hide. There is so much more. At some point, we'll all know a lot more. But not until Trump is gone.

Amaryllis

(11,551 posts)
41. Of course, but the point is all the atttention on reflecting pool takes it off a lot of vastly more important things.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:06 PM
Tuesday

Mission accomplished.

Martin Eden

(16,040 posts)
45. Also, the paint wouldn't delaminate like that with just a cut
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:45 PM
Tuesday

Unless it didn't adhere well at all to the floor of the pool in the first place.

LR3

(217 posts)
70. Standard Trump ever inflating lie
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 02:03 PM
Tuesday

Remember how the fucking ball room was going to cost $200M? Then $250M. Then $350M. Then $400M. And now $600M

Well, the "gash" was originally 250 feet. Then 300 feet. Now 350 feet. And next week probably 400 feet.

3catwoman3

(30,163 posts)
56. Apologies if this is a stupid question, but terminology matters.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 01:05 PM
Tuesday

Does the Reflecting Pool have a coating or a lining? Both terms are being used.

Our garage floor has that poly-whatever coating. No way we could slice that up with any kind of blade.

The backyard above-ground pool we had when I was a kid had a lining you could have poked a hole in with a toothpick.

MineralMan

(152,030 posts)
58. It's a coating, not a liner.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 01:07 PM
Tuesday

It gets applied with rollers, like paint rollers. So, you're right; cutting it would do nothing like what has happened.

3catwoman3

(30,163 posts)
66. Thank you. That is what I thought...
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 01:34 PM
Tuesday

...but did not want to be guilty of assuming, especially in an area where I have no expertise.

MineralMan

(152,030 posts)
67. Well, the general media are not helping people understand this.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 01:39 PM
Tuesday

Since there's nobody there who knows anything about such things, they can only report what they see in news releases and the like. That's one of the problems we're facing with understanding what's in the news. Lots of reporting, but not very much explaining going on.

I have no solution, really. It's likely to continue like it is, I think. Lots of news, for example, about AI, but virtually no explanation of what it is and what are its limitations and the current state of the technology. The news is all about investments and job cuts, but nobody really knows what they're writing about and it's too complicated to learn about quickly.

So, we're getting lots of news, but too little actual information. Not a good combination.

3catwoman3

(30,163 posts)
79. Agreed. I call myself a word nerd, and am rather fanatic about precise word usage, proper grammar...
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 04:23 PM
Tuesday

...and all that. In my long nurse practitioner career, accuracy and precision were crucially important. Kids' lives and my license were on the line if I was not constantly vigilant. I was very careful about listening, examining, what I said, and what I wrote in charts.

I think I'm hard-wired that way.

Whoever coined the neologism "infotainment" knew whereof they spoke.

gordianot

(15,812 posts)
61. You have to admit this is classic Donald Trump.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 01:12 PM
Tuesday

Invade Greenland, rename the Kennedy center, tear down the east wing of the White House, Impose, illegal, tariffs, do all you can to wreck the United States and world economy . We are.living in an Idiocracy. A shit sandwich and every day we have to take another bite.

Nasruddin

(1,313 posts)
62. I think it's confabulation
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 01:13 PM
Tuesday

His broken brain just made that up.

This kind of thing (not the 1st time) is convincing me he does have a form of dementia

Ritabert

(2,819 posts)
63. If you looked at the initial application they rolled it on in sections
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 01:20 PM
Tuesday

Last edited Wed Jun 24, 2026, 10:49 AM - Edit history (1)

The rectangular areas met in the middle of the pool so there was a seam the length of the pool. Once the pool was filled an aerial shot showed a pale line right down the middle of the pool. My guess is that the hydrogen peroxide caused the seam to lift from the cement bottom.

H2O Man

(79,469 posts)
64. Wait!
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 01:23 PM
Tuesday

Maybe a circular saw bought at a Walmart fathers' day sale with a mighty long extension cord? I mean, that's possible, isn't it?

Recommended.

mercuryblues

(16,564 posts)
75. Who remembers that phrase
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 02:36 PM
Tuesday

Dig a hole to China?

In China, they have a similar phrase. Dig a hole to USA.

Ergo, China did this.

China
China
China

hadEnuf

(3,686 posts)
86. The fact that this accusation is even being entertained is ludicrous.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 08:21 PM
Tuesday

It's like something out of a comic book.

Then of course there are the half wits who believe it..

swong19104

(673 posts)
88. And to what end, right?
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 09:10 PM
Tuesday

So some vandal slashes the bottom. If that bottom was properly affixed to the granite, it would only result in an imperceptibly thin line. Not something a vandal would be proud of. But if it weren’t properly affixed to the granite, then it might move around. Still, who cares? Who would make such an effort to get such a pointless result?

debsy

(1,095 posts)
91. Too bad critical thinking skills are so lacking in the media and on the "right".
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:53 PM
Tuesday

Just a small amount of thought and application of common sensibilities brings one to the understanding that the story being peddled by the guy in the Oval Office is fantasy.

We should start referring to them as “the wrong” instead of “the right”.

TalenaGor

(1,246 posts)
93. found the vandals - DRIVING on the freshly painted survace - JUSTICE FOR THE REFLECTING POOL!!
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:12 AM
Yesterday

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-motorcade-reflecting-pool

"Claim:
U.S. President Donald Trump's motorcade drove through the newly painted and sealed Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool.
Rating:
True
True

About this rating
Context

Trump's motorcade passed through the empty pool on May 7, 2026, after it was painted and sealed and before it was refilled with water as part of a renovation project."

William Gustafson

(566 posts)
94. make sure you....
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:25 AM
Yesterday

......VOTE... in the midterms and in 2028....take a friend, hell, take a bunch of your friends.... but

V O T E ! ! ! !

Crowman2009

(3,634 posts)
100. Didn't the orange assclown drive a motorcade over the reflecting pool not too long ago?
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 08:05 AM
21 hrs ago

I think vehicles weighing several tons might had been enough to cause unnecessary stress on a bad paint job.

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