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First (but *not* last) ruling from #SCOTUS today is in Watson v. RNC. For a 5-4 majority (with Thomas, Alito, and Gorsuch, Kavanaugh dissenting), Justice Barrett holds that federal law does *not* bar states from counting late-arriving mail-in ballots that are postmarked on or before Election Day.
— Steve Vladeck (@stevevladeck.bsky.social) 2026-06-29T14:02:49.360Z
Aviation Pro
(15,907 posts)Looks like even the confirmed rapists appointees are tired of the fuckwads shit.
hlthe2b
(115,362 posts)This is good news in a sea of bad lately.
riversedge
(82,409 posts)RoeVWade
(972 posts)Weird but seems true.
PatSeg
(54,197 posts)moderate and reasonable. In the meantime, we can pretty much guarantee that Alito and Thomas will be as extreme as possible.
ShazzieB
(23,132 posts)I also like to call them the Gruesome Twosome (among other, less PG rated things).
I hope they both drop dead on January 21, 2029, the day after our new Democratic president gets sworn in. (A girl can dream, okay?
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PatSeg
(54,197 posts)They are both old enough and Thomas barely looks alive anyway (though he's always looked like that I suppose).
"T and A"!!!
ShazzieB
(23,132 posts)Gone is gone, however it happens, but I don't think either of them would voluntarily retire with a Democrat in the White House, and if anyone retires from SCOTUS while Trump's still in office, God knows what kind of freak(s) he would replace them with!
PatSeg
(54,197 posts)that one might exit while he is still in office.
As for retiring voluntarily with a Democrat in the White House, age changes people in many ways and as we get older, our abilities and priorities change. They may still be willing in some respects, but not necessarily able.
peppertree
(23,604 posts)Alito is well known to favor an Latin American/Opus Dei-style dictatorship.
And Thomas? An Idi Amin-style one.
PatSeg
(54,197 posts)they seem to have gotten more open and brazen or perhaps they feel more secure showing their true colors with Trump in charge.
peppertree
(23,604 posts)They see the Orange Pig as their best - and possibly last - hope for overturning U.S. democracy.
The Bushes - neither of whom much cared for democracy, as they showed during Bush v. Gore and in many other ways - knew exactly what they were doing when they installed that pair of turkeys in the Supreme Court.
PatSeg
(54,197 posts)He laughed, but it wasn't really a joke.
peppertree
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PatSeg
(54,197 posts)it is easy to forget what a truly awful presidency that was. GW had no administrative skills and was easily managed and manipulated. Men with "daddy issues" make terrible leaders.
SheltieLover
(82,946 posts)kentuck
(116,216 posts)And we will take our victories wherever we can get them.
This was a big vote and ketchup is running down the walls near the Oval Office.
kentuck
(116,216 posts)...before it is passed?
The Court's interpretation here was purely based on current statute law about elections.
Congress can still change those laws.
kentuck
(116,216 posts)Right?
Then it could be challenged in Court?
In It to Win It
(12,948 posts)Ms. Toad
(38,963 posts)Whether they are legally permitted to remains an open question.
Sympthsical
(11,335 posts)100%
homegirl
(2,042 posts)fifty one votes or sixty six + votes in the Senate, and would it also not have to be passed by the House?
Ms. Toad
(38,963 posts)where they don't have enough votes for cloture (60 votes), to end a the filibuster and likely don't have enough (50+1) even if they overcome the filibuster.
The House has already passed the SAVE act. So if it passes the Senate, we're done.
CurtEastPoint
(20,158 posts)PatSeg
(54,197 posts)Not sure about the details though. I'm on overload right now.
paleotn
(23,213 posts)In short, "Your job is to deliver the damn mail. Nothing else."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/25/judge-blocks-trump-bid-restrict-mail-ballots
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/06/25/trump-executive-order-mail-voting-blocked-00975844
CurtEastPoint
(20,158 posts)RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(2,451 posts)Let me make this in a sports analogy, since that is all most people understand these days. If I toss a basketball during a game and it makes the basket before the game ends, the score counts! Duh.
MichMan
(17,722 posts)Meaning people were allowed to mail ballots after in person voting sites were closed
catrose
(5,388 posts)Initech
(109,762 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(18,527 posts)Shocker, but I'll take it.
Initech
(109,762 posts)This war is far from over. Fuck Trump, fuck SCOTUS, and fuck Fox News!
MustLoveBeagles
(18,527 posts)With everything you said. B
EnergizedLib
(3,281 posts)You know how it goes with this corrupt court. For every decision that goes our way, there are nine which dont.
Blumancru
(414 posts)There is a big difference between the two, and I bet there will be a big difference between the way red and blue states handle late arriving ballots.
MichMan
(17,722 posts)Those that allow it based on postmarks can continue to do so. Those that don't aren't forced to.
RockCreek
(1,665 posts)It would be easy to misinterpret this as applying to all states.
Lonestarblue
(13,672 posts)Republicans cheat, and they've used mail ballots to cheat in the past, for example by deliberately mailing them to ZIP codes that have primarily Democratic voters so late that have to go to the polls thus disenfranchising people who are physically unable to drive or vote in person. People who ordered mail ballots and aren't able to early vote or get to their precinct on election day miss out on voting.
Another way Republicans cheat in requiring each county to have only one dropbox for voters to deposit ballots, so a 600-resident county has one box and a two million site like Harris County has one box. All the large cities in Texas are Democratic.
VTderry
(158 posts)Is there wiggle room for the unscrupulous?
kirby
(4,541 posts)That is my prediction.
MichMan
(17,722 posts)yellowcanine
(36,903 posts)Seems like potential for som mischief there.
malaise
(299,948 posts)Rec
MoseShrute
(185 posts)If at all possible, get that ballot completed and put in the mail ASAP. There will always be some weird situations where that isnt possible, but those should be exceptions.
bucolic_frolic
(56,455 posts)Now the GOP can focus on getting the USPS to slow down delivery.
crud
(1,333 posts)Up until the Bush V Gore ruling, they always made the voter and the right to vote paramount.
popsdenver
(2,888 posts)was the second time the Republican's Supreme Court allowed a decision that should have been challenged BIG TIME.
Voting was a States Right. The U.S. Supreme Court had absolutely NO LEGAL RIGHT to intervene in the Florida Election Re-count. But the Supremes came in, stopped the re-count, dictated by Florida Law, because they suspected that it would show Gore the Winner.............
The worst part is, that once the Supreme Court corruptly and illegally pulled that off, it forever established a precedent for them to use from then on. Allowing them to use it to corruptly and illegally use it as a precedent to interject themselves into elections for ever more.........................
The first time was when HWBush and his CABAL committed treason to throw the election to "installing" Reagan.........
Soul_of_Wit
(218 posts)Maybe they should have a "self-evident" docket. The slang name would be the "no duh" docket.
MichMan
(17,722 posts)They are sent out weeks ahead of time.
SSJVegeta
(3,506 posts)Before election day. But in general elections quite frankly, people need to turn that thing in as soon as they get it. And also theres a good chance the government will do everything they can to not count our votes so sooner is always better no matter what at this point.
Soul_of_Wit
(218 posts)SSJVegeta
(3,506 posts)Not saying much tbh
Raven123
(8,077 posts)standingtall
(3,207 posts)Right decision yes, but 5-4 decision in a case that should've been 9-0 tells me everything I need yo know.
ABC123Easy
(444 posts)You gotta love the Scots!
mdbl
(9,052 posts)What a waste of time.