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EnergizedLib

(3,286 posts)
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 10:57 PM Friday

How did people become so detached from reality?

This is a multi-parter.

https://www.jezebel.com/donald-trump-coin-crypto-losses-scam-rugpull-blame-democrats-trump-family-profit-alt5-sigma-ai-financial

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A man featured in a recent Reuters investigation of the Trump family’s cryptocurrency profiteering, who essentially watched his life savings be wiped out by the price collapse of crypto and stock investments hyped by Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump. All told, he found himself down by $32,700 on shares of ALT5 Sigma, a little-known crypto company chosen for “partnership” with Trump’s World Liberty Financial, which subsequently lost more than 90% of its value in the last 10 months. But no matter, the guy knows exactly who is to blame for his financial misfortune: It’s clearly the fault of Democrats that his money now lines Trump’s coffers. He told Reuters that wicked Democrat and “anti-Trump investors” possessed the power to drive the company out of business by taking short positions against Trump-boosted crypto projects.

“When a stock has presidential backing in a way – at least from his sons – you would think it would go up,” said the man, a 45-year-old machinist in Indiana identified only as “Matt.” “Here’s the dark side. I know all of these globalists have TDS and they are just going to short it.”

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https://www.rawstory.com/trump-weather-2677157001/


Then there’s this freak right here:

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-weather-2677157001/

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"I’m telling y’all that someone with an extreme case of TDS geoengineered this weather in DC. Same way they geoengineered Trump’s inauguration to be one of the coldest in U.S. history. People with TDS hate Trump more than they love America," she wrote on X.

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Now, I am guilty of having had many grandiose thoughts and ideas in my life, very few of which have ever come true, but since when does someone control a heat wave in the middle of summer? A heat wave in July? That’s never happened before, and according to the article, she pointed to the cold on 1/20/25 as part of the same plot.

Yes, because it’s never cold during January, it’s never hot in July.

And as far as the crypto thing - I’ve made some not-so-good choices in my life, some I’d like a mulligan on, but I’ve *never* been conned by this doofus. How many get conned over and over and over again and then blame someone else.

I don’t get it. We’re supposed to celebrate 250 years tomorrow when we’ve devolved to an unrecognizable point as a nation these last 11 years?

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How did people become so detached from reality? (Original Post) EnergizedLib Friday OP
They call his stock move alfredo Friday #1
24 hour news cycle The Wizard Friday #2
24 hour news cycle + 24 hour social media cycle Initech Saturday #26
You find this all the time with scams. People have a very hard time believing they're the sucker unblock Friday #3
But then they preach personal responsibility EnergizedLib Friday #8
For thee, not me. alfredo Saturday #16
outstanding assessment, unblock Skittles Saturday #13
Mass brainwashing by right wing media Wiz Imp Friday #4
do you think they might use subliminal messaging rampartd Saturday #18
It's hard to completely rule anything out. Wiz Imp Saturday #20
the evangelicals start very young rampartd Saturday #21
Absolutely. Thankfully, some are able to break free from it. Wiz Imp Saturday #22
People engage with facts/evidence and arguments with their emotions before their reason gets its pants on. RockRaven Friday #5
it's a cult. Period. NewHendoLib Friday #6
When I was old enough to be able to read the headlines in the National Enquirer... 3catwoman3 Friday #7
Me too ... and I had a friend who's Mom always bought the latest KPN Saturday #11
What we're celebrating tomorrow ought to be a funeral. KPN Saturday #9
Lack of critical thinking combined with bullshit social media. It happens here flvegan Saturday #10
It's funny EnergizedLib Saturday #12
About the phrase "People with TDS hate Trump more than they love America" CBHagman Saturday #14
Herein lies the gordian knot. Trump is not the solution; Darwin is. nt Xipe Totec Saturday #15
When did Fox Ruse start? BigmanPigman Saturday #17
Asked while holding a handheld device maxrandb Saturday #19
Screens orthoclad Saturday #23
Fox (so called) News the_liberal_grandpa Saturday #24
It's annoying EnergizedLib Saturday #25
FOXed in the head IA8IT Saturday #27
There is a reason people are drawn to cbabe Saturday #28
Dumbasses. If Dems were that powerful, we'd all have universal healthcare, free college and SS fully funded for 100 yrs ms liberty Saturday #29

The Wizard

(13,988 posts)
2. 24 hour news cycle
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 11:08 PM
Friday

has pitted Americans against each other. Undermining unity is from Putin's playbook.

Initech

(109,779 posts)
26. 24 hour news cycle + 24 hour social media cycle
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 01:31 PM
Saturday

It's shit on top of shit on top of shit. Also add in the fact that we don't regulate anything in the United States, so these corporations are able to get away with it.

unblock

(56,320 posts)
3. You find this all the time with scams. People have a very hard time believing they're the sucker
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 11:09 PM
Friday

Especially after a big loss, it's far more comforting to believe you made a good decision and are a merely victim of some outrageous injustice.

That's especially true for magats, who are addicted to martyrdom.

Skittles

(173,895 posts)
13. outstanding assessment, unblock
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 12:37 AM
Saturday

it's very human to not want to admit being taken for a fool

Wiz Imp

(11,022 posts)
4. Mass brainwashing by right wing media
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 11:15 PM
Friday

started 40 years with talk radio led by Rush Limbaugh. To this day, 50 million people listen to that garbage weekly. Then came Fox News. And now the right wing internet sites. Maybe 1/3 of the population only ever sees or hears "reality" as seen through the right wing lens. At this point, probably about 1/3 of the population does not believe in objective reality. They believe what their right wing leaders tell them to believe.

rampartd

(5,787 posts)
18. do you think they might use subliminal messaging
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 03:40 AM
Saturday

maybe some kind of mass hypnosis?

or is it all repetition of lies and redefinition of terms?

Wiz Imp

(11,022 posts)
20. It's hard to completely rule anything out.
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 09:16 AM
Saturday

However, I doubt it's anything but repetition and targeting of vulnerable people who lack critical thinking skills. They have used typical cult "recruiting" tools.

Wiz Imp

(11,022 posts)
22. Absolutely. Thankfully, some are able to break free from it.
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 10:30 AM
Saturday

But many/most are scarred for life.

RockRaven

(20,170 posts)
5. People engage with facts/evidence and arguments with their emotions before their reason gets its pants on.
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 11:15 PM
Friday

And social media and cable news prevent their being any time to breathe before the next round, so reason never catches up.

3catwoman3

(30,360 posts)
7. When I was old enough to be able to read the headlines in the National Enquirer...
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 11:31 PM
Friday

...when in line at the grocery store with my mom, starting about age 8, and saw things like "Woman Gives Birth To 3-Headed Alien Baby," and the like, even then I wondered (although not in these words), "Who is stupid enough to believe this bullshit?"

I'm now 75. The gullibility of human beings continues to horrify me.

KPN

(17,623 posts)
11. Me too ... and I had a friend who's Mom always bought the latest
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 12:17 AM
Saturday

National Enquirer. I always assumed it was sort of a vomic book for adults. Now I know differently,

flvegan

(66,745 posts)
10. Lack of critical thinking combined with bullshit social media. It happens here
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 12:15 AM
Saturday

believe it or not.

How often is DU plagued by some bullshit nonsense clickbait YouTube video, the only merits of which are giant yellow arrows. Even then, the poster ADMITS that they have no earthly clue what they just posted, what value it has, what merit it has, what reality it has.

And every poster here who just read that and can admit that applies to them, also just said to themselves, "I don't care."

Fucking clout chasing, useless fucking mouthbreathers who only see value in likes, clicks, subscribes, bell rings, recs or whatever. THIS is YOUR fucking fault.

EnergizedLib

(3,286 posts)
12. It's funny
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 12:32 AM
Saturday

I saw a MAGAt say social media exposed Democratic propaganda, hence November 2024.

Social media, if anything spread lies, manipulation, brain rot and radicalized people.

CBHagman

(17,584 posts)
14. About the phrase "People with TDS hate Trump more than they love America"
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 12:38 AM
Saturday

One of my relatives used a variation of that statement. Of course I never asked him just how supporting Trump would equal loving America.

maxrandb

(17,579 posts)
19. Asked while holding a handheld device
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 05:49 AM
Saturday

where I can watch videos of the former bikini model sharing her thoughts on vaccine efficacy.

orthoclad

(5,343 posts)
23. Screens
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 11:20 AM
Saturday

Reagan was the Hollywood prez, straight from the silver screen.
T1.0 was the tv prez, had his own show
T2.0 is the phone prez.

In the last decade, the oligarchy has succeeded in accomplishing the Orwellian goal of making us all doubt our eyes and ears. We have become doubtful of the existence of objective reality itself.

EnergizedLib

(3,286 posts)
25. It's annoying
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 01:27 PM
Saturday

My girlfriend lives with her mother, who spends many hours a day watching Faux. She never talks politics with us, but my goodness, I could hear in the room the other day - ‘Socialist this, socialist that. Socialist, socialist, socialist.’

And they don’t even know what it is. Social programs are not the same thing as socialism.

cbabe

(7,057 posts)
28. There is a reason people are drawn to
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 01:50 PM
Saturday

cults. I suggest it’s deep childhood trauma. They feel promises made were broken. Not feeling safe or happy on any level. Some reach for alcohol or drugs or religion. Some rage at others. Some find safety in cults.

“ The widely known Kübler-Ross model describes five stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance…”

ms liberty

(11,482 posts)
29. Dumbasses. If Dems were that powerful, we'd all have universal healthcare, free college and SS fully funded for 100 yrs
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 03:05 PM
Saturday
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