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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI was feeling bad for Platner but I'm over it.
He blamed his woes on "political apparatchiks." It's bad enough that he blamed Democrats he used a old soviet term.
Tim S
(385 posts)I agreed with every word Platner said tonight. Ive been a Bernie Sanders supporter and donated heavily to his Presidential runs, but Sen Sanders lost my respect and any future support due to his lack of courage and conviction by failing to take a moral stand.
The America I knew is dead. Im just glad that Ill be dead before things become unbearably worse.
EdmondDantes_
(2,368 posts)That's the only correct moral stance.
Tim S
(385 posts)I will happily refer to Platner as a rapist on the day a jury of his peers convicts him on that charge. Until then I still believe in America. I dont know what your problem is.
JustAnotherGen
(38,252 posts)In Civil Court. So is he a rapist? Or does he get a pass since it didn't happen in a criminal court?
EdmondDantes_
(2,368 posts)But given the fact that only a tiny minority of rape claims are false, the guy in question admits he mistreated women, and there are multiple outcry witnesses from two years before Platner ran for office, it's exceedingly unlikely it's a lie.
So no, he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. He's not entitled (no matter how much he whined in his dropping out) to a Senate seat or even being allowed to stay in the race.
krawhitham
(5,129 posts)sarisataka
(23,215 posts)lostincalifornia
(5,699 posts)everyone else on his flaws.
In my view Maine Democrats avoided a disaster.
lostincalifornia
(5,699 posts)ananda
(35,931 posts)Sanders is OK.
Boo1
(744 posts)That he didn't defend the rapist enough.
Cha
(321,760 posts)that person doesn't
as well as Sen Warren and Mayor Mamdani.
And all the other Democratic leaders.
Cha
(321,760 posts)dem4decades
(14,748 posts)sheshe2
(99,229 posts)I had to look it up. Looks like he called Democrats Communists.
Origin
Associations
https://words-wiki.com/apparatchiks-definition-meaning/
TomSlick
(13,165 posts)I'm over him.
I was never for him in the first place and sadly he is still holding at 'suspending' his campaign and not withdrawing.
TomSlick
(13,165 posts)sheshe2
(99,229 posts)SheltieLover
(83,006 posts)Wednesdays
(23,582 posts)SheltieLover
(83,006 posts)sarisataka
(23,215 posts)but the name escapes me at the moment
I forgot that guy.
Cha
(321,760 posts)What he said.
Cha
(321,760 posts)The way out.
And he uses a word that is reminiscent of communism? Why does that sound so familiar?
TY, Im at Jazzys now and cant post much.
He can thank Sanders, Warren, and Mamdani too for believing the credible evidence that was documented and the woman
sheshe2
(99,229 posts)I just watched Lawrence O'Donnell; it was a good segment. He had clips of Platners little goodbye speech. He called out the bullshit he was spewing.
Try to catch it later if you can.
Say hi to Jazzy for me!
Cha
(321,760 posts)That. Im on the bus 🚎 now, Ill see her next week. She was by side when I texted you. Ill show her your reply.
TY for LOD news. I saw the one last night. Priceless!!
sheshe2
(99,229 posts)No theatrics, just the facts.
Now go home and relax!
Cha
(321,760 posts)turns out I thought I had my keys with me, but I didn't.
It was after 6 PM, and no manager. But my neighbor Toshi got in through the kitchen window. I was so grateful that I didn't care how late it was.
I am so glad you had a neighbor that is good at breaking and entering!
Good on Toshi.
Cha
(321,760 posts)next door neighbor for 9 years now.. that went by fast!
BTW, Cindy and her family are in Japan now for her granddaughter's high school graduation present.
Japan...how cool is that!
Happy Graduation!
Cha
(321,760 posts)The way out.
And he uses a word that is reminiscent of communism? Why does that sound so familiar?
TY, Im at Jazzys now and cant post much.
He can thank Sanders, Warren, and Mamdani too for believing the credible evidence that was documented and the woman
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Cha
(321,760 posts)The way out.
And he uses a word that is reminiscent of communism? Why does that sound so familiar?
TY, Im at Jazzys now and cant post much.
He can thank Sanders, Warren, and Mamdani too for believing the credible evidence that was documented and the woman
betsuni
(29,528 posts)sheshe2
(99,229 posts)Thank goddess we were spared that one.
I actually think that we can win this one. I believe ME is ready for a change. Read here tonight that recent polling was showing that he was not faring well against Sue though the Dem candidates that were running for the Governor's seat were in the plus margin.
We shall see.
RoeVWade
(983 posts)ntx
leftstreet
(41,443 posts)and volunteers
For the first time in THIRTY years of living under The Duchess of Maine, they found a message that inspired them to get out and vote
Hope they can grieve and then get behind a new candidate.
radical noodle
(10,759 posts)and blaming everyone except himself. His statement was meant to discourage Democratic voters and anger those who supported him. I find that reprehensible. Reminds me of a certain Republican that prefers revenge over accountability.
littlemissmartypants
(35,871 posts)Characteristics of Psychopaths
1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Completely void of conscience and empathy
3. Adept at manipulating others
4. Willing to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willing to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willing to use force, intimidation, and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willing to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Completely lacking any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions cause
11. Rationalize their own immoral behavior
12. Attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own bad conduct
13. Will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Display utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of others
15. Exhibit pathological lying, will compulsively say anything without any concern for the truth to advance their own agendas
16. Able to fake normal human emotions and empathy with the exception of joy, laughter
17. Have a distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Totally fail to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strongly believe that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior
lostincalifornia
(5,699 posts)Cha
(321,760 posts)I was looking for something like #15 and why wouldn't I?
littlemissmartypants
(35,871 posts)It's a valuable resource. Comes in handy in a multitude of situations.
❣️🕊
LetMyPeopleVote
(184,657 posts)This man will not admit any mistakes.
lostincalifornia
(5,699 posts)his dropping out speech tonight.
He is not an honest person.
sheshe2
(99,229 posts)He looked very angry. You could see it simmering just below the surface. He has a drinking problem and I sure as hell hope he doesn't take any of his anger out on his wife.
OAITW r.2.0
(33,043 posts)I never trust anyone coming from the outfield to suddenly run for national office. I want to see a history.
I met Janet back in 2010 when she was mentoring my wife to run for Statehouse Rep. in our district.
lapucelle
(21,372 posts)He showed his true colors this week when he held Maine Democrats hostage in an effort to get his demands met.
eShirl
(20,631 posts)just shut up and go
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GPV
(73,486 posts)about losing someone who is fighting for what I believe in. But, I do not feel bad about losing him. I felt very uncomfortable about that tattoo and storyline. I couldn't bring myself to jump on the bandwagon, and Genevieve McDonald confirmed what I felt.
At this point, I am angry that he and his advisers tried to pull the wool over our eyes and push through. "The ends justifies the means" is Republican thinking, even if the Platner campaign' end is better than what the GOP does. I'm not looking for purity, I'm looking for humanity. The GOP gave theirs up. I don't want to give up mine.
Fuck. Progressives have a hard enough fight to sit at the table, and now this.
LetMyPeopleVote
(184,657 posts)flvegan
(66,746 posts)Fuck that guy.
sop
(20,071 posts)I hope Democrats in Maine settle on another candidate who can inspire Platner's voters, not another "moderate" Democrat who will lose in November.
I also hope the media follows up and does a little real journalism in the wake of their initial breathless hysteria. Voters deserve more than the usual scandal pile-on we've all seen too many times. A few in the media already are looking more closely at the accusations, those not afraid of being called "rapist defenders." A lot of so-called "evidence" in this accuser's story doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
I'm not defending Platner. If he is what many say he is, then good riddance to him. I'm questioning the current political and media climate, where uninvestigated and unsubstantiated accusations can effectively torpedo a candidate supported by the vast majority of Democratic voters.