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gab13by13

(33,158 posts)
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 07:16 AM 7 hrs ago

Congressional Democrats Should be demanding the 25th Amendment Be Invoked

Last edited Thu Jul 9, 2026, 07:48 AM - Edit history (1)

The president of the United States is a total embarrassment, is a very sick man-boy.

One who goes on the world stage and proclaims the Islamic Republic of Japan fired on ships in Hormuz.

One who goes on the world stage and tells the press to ask Putin when it was Zelenskyy sitting next to him.

This man-boy is sending more warships to Iran and just told the world he is going to commit war crimes by bombing civilians because they deserve it.

Joe Biden was called on to resign because he got one person's name wrong.

Where are Congressional Democrats? This isn't something to laugh at Krasnov about.

Not to worry I guess, the price of crude is holding steady after it is obvious that the Iran/Israel /US war never ended.

Now he is paranoid to fly in his new plane because it is too big of a target and easier to bring down.

I'm not a doctor but for fuck's sake it is way past time to call for his resignation and invoke the 25th Amendment before he does more damage.

Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, organize your troops, now.

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Chasstev365

(8,490 posts)
1. I couldn't agree more!
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 07:23 AM
7 hrs ago

Not only does the "Emporer Have No Clothes"; he's nude with nuclear weapons.

Why would anyone be afraid of holding a news conference to tell the truth about this madman?

gab13by13

(33,158 posts)
2. Oh and I forgot,
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 07:30 AM
7 hrs ago

The man-boy stated he is stopping all trade with Spain, no way in the fucking world will he be able to do that.

Spain is a part of the EU so his statement about stopping all trade with Spain is total, not bullshit, is the talk of a senile mentally ill person.

Trade with Spain is not going to stop.

Shrek

(4,502 posts)
3. I assume you mean the 25th Amendment
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 07:36 AM
7 hrs ago

There is no article 25.

The amendment won't work if a President is conscious and able to form a sentence. All he has to do is send a note to the Senate that says "actually I"m fine" and he returns to office at once.

gab13by13

(33,158 posts)
4. Yeah, my senility is showing.
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 07:54 AM
6 hrs ago

It doesn't matter if invoking the 25th Amendment actually works or not, it does several things.

It keeps Krasnov's mental decline in the forefront.
It enrages Krasnov who will then perform more acts of mental instability.
It is good politically with an upcoming election.

It is absolutely the truth that Krasnov shows signs of his inability to be president.

Let Congressional Magats who are up for reelection defend not invoking the 25th Amendment.

Sitting back and doing nothing is a surefire losing strategy.

Stop giving Krasnov a pass every time he shows his mental disabilities, showcase them.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,688 posts)
7. As others have pointed out, that's not how the 25th works
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 08:48 AM
6 hrs ago

You are certain that congressional Dems invoking the 25th amendment is the only way to win the midterms, but that’s not even how the amendment works.

You want Dems to be more aggressive “fighters” against Trump, but there is absolutely no evidence that your particular strategy would have the desired effect, only that it would make you feel better, that your outrage had been represented by congressional direct action.

Meanwhile, prices are still too high, wages too low, healthcare skyrocketing, data centers straining the power grids across the nation during record heat waves and sucking reservoirs dry.

Here’s an idea that empowers you to take direct action:

Buy some sunscreen, a wide brimmed hat and poster board.

Make a sign that says “25th amendment NOW!”

Go hold the sign on a nearby freeway overpass during rush hour.

Count the number of honks and thumbs up vs middle fingers.

The next day, return with a sign that says “Had Enough? VOTE!”

Compare responses from drivers.

Report back to us here at DU.

Good Luck! (And don’t forget the sunscreen!)

Celerity

(55,557 posts)
5. There is almost zero chance that 2/3rds of both chambers vote to keep Trump removed on a perm basis.
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 08:01 AM
6 hrs ago

I constantly see the 25th Amendment bandied about as a way to remove Trump, but it will not work.

2/3rds of BOTH the House and the Senate have to approve it if Trump challenges it. That is not going to happen. So it is even harder than Impeachment and then Trial, Conviction, and Removal, as the House only needs majority to impeach. Plus the obvious barrier that the VP and the majority of the Cabinet has to invoke the 25th in the first place.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxxv


QueerDuck

(2,424 posts)
6. A Quick Civics Lesson: The 25th Amendment requires the Cabinet, not Congress.
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 08:19 AM
6 hrs ago

While the frustration with the current administration's erratic behavior and foreign policy rhetoric is completely understandable, demanding that Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries "invoke the 25th Amendment" completely misunderstands how the U.S. Constitution works.

Under Section 4 of the 25th Amendment, Congress has zero power to initiate the process. The authority rests solely with the Vice President and a majority of the President's own Cabinet. Unless Trump's very own appointed Cabinet members sign that declaration, Congressional Democrats cannot touch it.

Furthermore, even in the unlikely event that the Cabinet acted and the President contested it, stripping the President of power permanently requires a two-thirds majority vote in both chambers of Congress.

So... since Democrats are currently in the minority in both the House and the Senate, we do not have the numbers to pass ordinary legislation, let alone reach a historic two-thirds threshold that would require massive GOP cooperation.

Blaming Democratic leadership for failing to execute a constitutional impossibility is completely unrealistic and unnecessary.


gab13by13

(33,158 posts)
9. Reread what I said
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 09:01 AM
5 hrs ago

I said that Schumer and Jeffries should demand that the 25th Amendment be invoked, I never said that Schumer and Jeffries should invoke the 25th Amendment. Wondering if you are someone who believes that I do not support Democrats?

Every Congressional Democrat should be demanding that the 25th Amendment be invoked for Krasnov and if you believe that means I am blaming Democrats you are way off base with my intentions and I resent that. I want Democrats to take advantage of the obvious signs that Krasnov is displaying that clearly shows he is unfit to be president.

The Democratic party is starting to gain back its popularity, starting to get back its core ideology of fighting for the little people.

What Krasnov did at NATO deserves to be shouted out on every front page newspaper.

I am saying that Democrats should be calling for the 25th Amendment to be invoked on Krasnov and you are saying that I shouldn't be saying that. Have at it then, go ahead, accuse me of not supporting Democrats but I will keep demanding that Democrats keep fighting.

As a matter of fact I wouldn't be surprised if some Congressional Democrats aren't demanding the 25th Amendment be invoked.

QueerDuck

(2,424 posts)
10. Actually it's a demand for effective strategy, not performative rhetoric.
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 09:20 AM
5 hrs ago

I hear you completely, and I do not question your support for the party or your desire to see Democrats fight hard against Trump's erratic behavior. We all want to see him held accountable.

Having said that, I should point out that there is a vast difference between effective political strategy and symbolic rhetoric.

Publicly demanding a constitutional process that our leadership has zero legal power to initiate (and zero minority votes to enforce) does not project strength. In fact, I'd argue that it risks achieving the exact opposite by highlighting a lack of institutional leverage.

Our leadership's job is to navigate the actual legislative and constitutional tools available to a minority party, not to engage in the kind of media-driven or youtube clickbait messaging that doesn't alter the math in Washington.

Pointing out the strict constitutional and structural limits on what Schumer and Jeffries can achieve isn't an accusation against you. It is simply a reminder that our energy is best spent pushing for strategies that can actually succeed.

RoeVWade

(983 posts)
8. It is a conundrum for me. I don't want to leave Vance time to try to clean things up.
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 09:00 AM
5 hrs ago

I'd like to leave Vance 3 months at best. But, yeah, I don't feel good with all the time with the orange loser in charge either.

Raftergirl

(2,006 posts)
11. Better they should concentrate on a platform, D candidates who are running for office and what they will
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 09:51 AM
5 hrs ago

bring to the table if elected. Not this “nonsense” that has zero chance of going anywhere, and not impeachment, either - which has now lost all its meaning and power. It’s meaningless now.

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