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kentuck

(116,275 posts)
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 09:17 AM 5 hrs ago

If a Senator is seriously incapacitated, do the people have a right to know?

Does his Party have the right to hide the information?

Many are presently questioning the condition of Senator Mitch McConnell. He was discovered unconscious about 3 weeks ago and nobody had heard anything about his present condition, until the reported phone calls this week. It was reported he had cardiac arrest when found.

Is he on life support? Is he recovering and talking on the phone to all his friends and comrades? That is what the Republicans want you to believe.

If he can "survive" until after August 3rd, then there will be no need for a special election. The election would take place on its usual date. The seat would remain vacant until the election in November.

If they could create an AI audio of McConnell, which is not difficult to do with today's technology, they could try to convince people that McConnell is recovering and there is no need for him to resign. There is no need for a special election?

Would the Republicans stoop to such a trick?

What do you think?

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Lovie777

(24,704 posts)
1. Well if the individual is a public figure, say a US senator....................
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 09:30 AM
5 hrs ago

I think some valid truths about his or hers mental, physical status should be exposed to the general public.

The continued cover-ups just make it worse. The Representative recently was out for approximately 4 months and was kept a secret, and we still don't know the actual truth.

That's republicans. If it were a Democrat, all hell would have broke out from the so called Christians followed-up by corporate media.

lapfog_1

(32,089 posts)
2. Would the Republicans stoop to such a trick?
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 09:36 AM
5 hrs ago

Yes.

But only a few people in his inner circle would have to be in the know. An AI voice impersonation, good for a 20 min phone conversation in McTurtle voice, covering topics the Senator would have an opinion on, is very doable. Someone on the other end of the phone line, especially those motivated to not question whether it is Mitch or an AI, could be easily fooled.

My company already uses such AI assistants to handle routine questions from co-workers ( all such correspondence is identified as AI generated ). Doing so in phone calls using the voice of the person, would be an easy extension.

A non-AI version of this was depicted in the 1993 movie "Dave".

Fiendish Thingy

(24,688 posts)
3. The People? NO
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 10:08 AM
4 hrs ago

His Kentucky constituents? Sure.

To the rest of us, it shouldn’t matter one damned bit.

Dead or alive, he’s not voting, and that’s all that matters.

onenote

(46,438 posts)
4. A legal "right"? No.
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:42 AM
3 hrs ago

There is no law, or principle of law, that would give individual members of the public a legally enforceable right to demand such information.

rogue emissary

(3,492 posts)
5. Hell, Yes.
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:43 AM
3 hrs ago

State and federal laws concerning Senators were written for this exact situation.

They fall short as they don't require disclosure of cognitive abilities.

Most laws were written with the assumption that the family or staff of the Senator would disclose this information.

This is why I believe we need to update many of these laws.
They need to require reporting on congestive health of any government official that spends say more than a week hospitalized or under a doctors daily care.

31j20b3

(220 posts)
6. Yes, if the incapacitation is brain death. THere are state and federal laws about this
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 01:08 PM
1 hr ago

Brain death IS death under the law

Must the public be informed? Well, mostly yes. Hiding a death from being reported is a felony in most states, that all sort of grows out of the publics interest in knowing a whether murder was committed.

You can't fail to report, and you can't sequester a corpse so it cannot be examined.

It's unclear to me if under that a Brain dead person deemed dead by that event is, de facto a corpse





LeftInTX

(35,150 posts)
8. Brain dead is not legally dead, so it is not public record
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 01:35 PM
1 hr ago

Is he legally incapacitated? Yes, but who is going to go that route? Take the case of congresswoman Kay Granger who dissappeared for six months and was found in an assisted living facility.

31j20b3

(220 posts)
9. Yes it is under Federal Law
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 01:42 PM
1 hr ago

I provided the citation in my posts yesterday.

If I get the name correct the law is The Uniform Determination of Death Act ,

MOreover most states consider brain death death, and Kansas was the first state to make that a state law in 1970

31j20b3

(220 posts)
10. Kay Granger was found RESIDING in a nursing home
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 01:45 PM
1 hr ago

Perhaps unable to care for herself, but if you have a credible report of her being brain dead that would be useful

LeftInTX

(35,150 posts)
12. We don't know if McConnell is brain dead or what...
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 02:11 PM
41 min ago

I don't believe brain dead is public record. As long as someone is in a healthcare facility, their records are private.

Also KY doesn't recognize the Uniform Determination of Death Act

Also states administer "deaths", not the federal govt.

LeftInTX

(35,150 posts)
7. I remember when Kay Granger "disappeared" for six months. She was found in an assisted living facility
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 01:33 PM
1 hr ago

Congresswoman from Texas. Nobody asked.

meadowlander

(5,212 posts)
11. We pay his salary. If he's unable to perform the duties that he's drawing that salary for
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 01:48 PM
1 hr ago

and is unlikely to be able to ever do so again, then it's fraud not to tell people and give them an opportunity to have an elected representative who can do the job.

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