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Chasstev365

(8,490 posts)
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 10:37 AM 4 hrs ago

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privacy, hipaa laws Quiet Em 4 hrs ago #1
HIPAA laws?? moose65 3 hrs ago #9
I know, I said privacy too Quiet Em 3 hrs ago #10
They have admitted he is in the hospital. DO what kidnapping experts do: ask for a photograph of him in his bed ... usaf-vet 2 hrs ago #24
If an elected official is permanently unable to perform their duty Orrex 2 hrs ago #26
Meh, McConnell's health is a distraction from the important stuff muriel_volestrangler 4 hrs ago #2
Even More Strange and Odd ahnakneemoose 3 hrs ago #3
My guess is they know everything we know, karynnj 3 hrs ago #5
It's generally a waste of time. Renew Deal 3 hrs ago #4
Why would Republicans do if Mitch was a Democrat? Chasstev365 3 hrs ago #6
Don't know and don't really care what they would do Renew Deal 3 hrs ago #7
Exactly. Wednesdays 3 hrs ago #8
Feinstein recently died in office after a long decline. tritsofme 3 hrs ago #13
Did you mean "weren't"? Totally Tunsie 3 hrs ago #11
really? paulk 3 hrs ago #12
Bookmarking. betsuni 3 hrs ago #14
Probably because Boo1 3 hrs ago #15
WERE demanding? maxsolomon 3 hrs ago #16
Mitch could end the speculation Mz Pip 3 hrs ago #17
If he's really on life support, what do Republicans gain by keeping Mitch's condition secret? I don't see the benefit. sop 3 hrs ago #18
They dont. Wiz Imp 2 hrs ago #22
You're not going to get much out of a staffer. WhiskeyGrinder 3 hrs ago #19
Where's Chuck Schumer? MadMike47 2 hrs ago #20
Where is Chuck Schumer MadMike47 2 hrs ago #21
{sigh} This is so ridiculous. The status quo FAVORS DEMOCRATS not Republicans. Wiz Imp 2 hrs ago #23
Are you a constituent of McConnell? Progressive dog 2 hrs ago #25
It is sad to see Democratic leadership get criticized over something the Republicans are the ones... Ol Janx Spirit 2 hrs ago #27

Quiet Em

(3,329 posts)
1. privacy, hipaa laws
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 10:46 AM
4 hrs ago

Governor Beshear rightfully is requesting that McConnell's office give him some sort of update. It's unfair to Kentuckians to not know or not have representation.

moose65

(3,471 posts)
9. HIPAA laws??
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:26 AM
3 hrs ago

HIPAA applies to health care providers, not to citizens. We're not asking the hospital or doctors to respond - we are asking his office and the people who work for him.

Quiet Em

(3,329 posts)
10. I know, I said privacy too
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:30 AM
3 hrs ago

my point is Democrats can't demand answers. Governor Beshear certainly has a right to know but he can't force anyone to give him an answer.

Republicans are effed up people. How long was that Rep. mia with no information at all? That Rep. was probably there test run for McConnell to see how long they could hold out without giving any information.

usaf-vet

(7,885 posts)
24. They have admitted he is in the hospital. DO what kidnapping experts do: ask for a photograph of him in his bed ...
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 12:10 PM
2 hrs ago

... and published in newspapers. They say he is there; prove it! How would that violate HIPAA?

Orrex

(67,615 posts)
26. If an elected official is permanently unable to perform their duty
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 12:22 PM
2 hrs ago

That supersedes any claims of personal privacy. They don’t even need to give details about who’s changing his diapers and swapping his catheter; a simple, on-the-record and verifiable “he’s dead” or “he’s not dead.”

muriel_volestrangler

(107,040 posts)
2. Meh, McConnell's health is a distraction from the important stuff
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 10:52 AM
4 hrs ago

A special election won't change anything.

Concentrate on Trump's corruption, deep friendship with Epstein, and guilt of sexual abuse, and the Republicans' covering up of all this. And Trump's failed war that has driven up prices, and empowered the Iranian regime.

ahnakneemoose

(126 posts)
3. Even More Strange and Odd
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 10:54 AM
3 hrs ago

*** At your calls and insistence ***

All of the staffers barely knew what I was talking about and just said, "I'll pass it along."

karynnj

(61,289 posts)
5. My guess is they know everything we know,
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:01 AM
3 hrs ago

but they are certainly not going to respond for their bosses as you would want.

Not to mention, not having a special election means one less Republican Senator for about 6 months. A special election in Kentucky would go to the Trump endorsed person. It is a fantasy that Massie, who was killed in his primary would win, much less a Democrat

Renew Deal

(85,517 posts)
4. It's generally a waste of time.
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 10:54 AM
3 hrs ago

Holding a press conference basically saying "bring out your dead" is crude. It won't actually change anything. It's red meat for parts of the internet but has no impact or useful value.

Chasstev365

(8,490 posts)
6. Why would Republicans do if Mitch was a Democrat?
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:03 AM
3 hrs ago

Renew Deal

(85,517 posts)
7. Don't know and don't really care what they would do
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:06 AM
3 hrs ago

Wednesdays

(23,582 posts)
8. Exactly.
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:13 AM
3 hrs ago

The odds of Republicans doing the WRONG thing are very high.

tritsofme

(19,957 posts)
13. Feinstein recently died in office after a long decline.
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:38 AM
3 hrs ago

I’m really not understanding the point you’re trying to make or what you think this “press conference” would accomplish.

Totally Tunsie

(12,266 posts)
11. Did you mean "weren't"?
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:32 AM
3 hrs ago
"I asked why they were demanding to know what is going on with Mitch McConnell".

paulk

(11,588 posts)
12. really?
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:35 AM
3 hrs ago

Well, it isn't their state, and they most likely have other things to do?

Come up with something that pertains to their actual, you know, job - before demanding new leadership.

betsuni

(29,528 posts)
14. Bookmarking.
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:38 AM
3 hrs ago

Boo1

(744 posts)
15. Probably because
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:49 AM
3 hrs ago

They know that pushing the issue results in atleaast a 50/50 chance thay republicans would pick up a vote in the senate they like better.

McConnell for all his bullshit was atleast a thorn in their efforts this past few months.

maxsolomon

(39,539 posts)
16. WERE demanding?
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:50 AM
3 hrs ago

Weren't demanding?

Mz Pip

(28,555 posts)
17. Mitch could end the speculation
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:50 AM
3 hrs ago

All Mitch need to do is call Beshear and talk for 20 minutes like he’s doing with his Republican colleagues.

sop

(20,071 posts)
18. If he's really on life support, what do Republicans gain by keeping Mitch's condition secret? I don't see the benefit.
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:51 AM
3 hrs ago

Wiz Imp

(11,031 posts)
22. They dont.
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 12:01 PM
2 hrs ago

Too many people here believe everything is a Republican conspiracy. In this case, Democrats are better off with McConnell remaining a member of the Senate without being aable to vote.

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,479 posts)
19. You're not going to get much out of a staffer.
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:53 AM
3 hrs ago

MadMike47

(173 posts)
20. Where's Chuck Schumer?
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:57 AM
2 hrs ago

He should invite a news team to join him in a trip to the hospital to pay his respects to Mitch and have the cameras running when he gets turned away at the door. It would be on every nightly news show in America.

MadMike47

(173 posts)
21. Where is Chuck Schumer
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:57 AM
2 hrs ago

He should invite a news team to join him in a trip to the hospital to pay his respects to Mitch and have the cameras running when he gets turned away at the door. It would be on every nightly news show in America.

Wiz Imp

(11,031 posts)
23. {sigh} This is so ridiculous. The status quo FAVORS DEMOCRATS not Republicans.
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 12:08 PM
2 hrs ago

A special election almost certainly would benefit Republicans, NOT Democrats.

The current situation is VERY BAD for Republicans and a GREAT SITUATION for Democrats. Democrats are the ones who should not want a special election. Republicans should want McConnell gone ASAP. An incapacitated McConnell means Republicans have only 52 votes in the Senate instead of 53. With only 52 votes, now only 3 Republicans need to vote with Democrats to kill any legislation or nominees. For example, Democrats now need only 3 Republicans to vote against Blanche as AG to kill his nomination. With McConnell present or another Republican elected in a special election taking his place, Democrats would need 4 Republican votes to kill Blanche's nomination.

Even if a Democrat won a special election it would at most be minimally worse for Republicans than a vacant seat or an incapacitated McConnell. Having a Democrat in that seat only really helps Democrats during votes where one or more Republicans are absent. Whether it's 52-47 or 52-48, Democrats still need 3 Republican votes in the senate to kill Republican legislation or nominees. A special election which would almost certainly be won by a Republican, would give Republicans back that 53rd vote for several months.

Worst case for Republicans with Special election, Democrats win but it has no real effect on Senate votes. However, if a Republican wins a special election , they get their 53rd vote back which is extremely significant.

A 53rd Republican in the Senate is an enormous advantage for Republicans (4 Republicans would need to join Democrats to kill legislation or nominees instead of the current 3 with McConnell not present), while a 48th Democrat effectively doesn't help Democrats at all (Democrats would still need 3 Republican votes to kill legislation or nominees - just like now).

Why is this so hard for so many to understand?

BTW, Andy Barr, the Republican candidate for the seat in Novembers general election is considered to have over a 99% likelihood of winning the seat. The chance of a Democrat winning a special election is only a tiny bit better. Before you say "but Kentucky has a Democratic Governor", Kentucky last elected a Democratic Senator in 1992. On the other hand, Kentucky has had only 2 Republican Governors (both for a single term) in the past 55 years. A Democrat winning the Governership in Kentucky is routine, having happened in 12 of the last 14 elections. Republicans have won 10 straight Senate elections.

https://www.racetothewh.com/senate/26#google_vignette

Progressive dog

(7,657 posts)
25. Are you a constituent of McConnell?
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 12:13 PM
2 hrs ago

They are the only people who might have a claim to know his health. Even then, they might have to wait until he is undeniably on his death bed to demand answers.

Ol Janx Spirit

(1,155 posts)
27. It is sad to see Democratic leadership get criticized over something the Republicans are the ones...
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 12:24 PM
2 hrs ago

...that rightly deserve the questions, criticism, and mockery for.

Democrats really only need to follow the old rule: never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

It really would not be a good look for Democrats to pull a stunt like showing up at the hospital, and it would very likely be one that came back to haunt them down the road.

Best to let "sleeping" turtles lie.

The truth will come out, and unless Democrats make it about themselves somehow it will likely look very bad for Republicans.

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