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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe protester, what should happen to her?
I'm curious about all those who are horrified about the protester who interrupted Michelle Obama's speech. Do you think there should be some sort of punishment, to teach her a lesson, for being so rude to Michelle, and not knowing her place? For the record, I think she had every right to protest, and there should be no penalty. But this poll is more for those who have such a big problem with it. Vote for what you would do below please. This poll is limited to 24 hours.
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| A big fine should teach her a lesson! | |
0 (0%) |
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| A night or two in jail would do the trick | |
0 (0%) |
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| Full investigation by the FBI | |
1 (14%) |
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| Put her on the terrorist watchlist | |
0 (0%) |
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| Something more harsh than all the above (explain) | |
0 (0%) |
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| Something else not listed (explain) | |
6 (86%) |
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| 3 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided. | |
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NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Edit: I picked "Something more harsh than all the above (explain)"
FSogol
(47,524 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)She was in a private home, and they tossed her ass out.
Story done. No more drama.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)That is all that was needed I think.
MADem
(135,425 posts)an invite to another one of their political soirees ever again. After all, their interest in bundling donations was to accrue influence and access in order to have opportunity to lobby for their causes--not have their home be a place where the FLOTUS gets dissed and is made to feel unwelcome.
Her money--or the money of her spoiling little "activist" group--is no good anymore. Her name is mud. I suppose being put on the "Disruptive Asshole" list could be considered a punishment, as well, if she cares about such things.
I would recommend she try to redeem herself by going after the people who oppose Equality For All and wish gay people ill--she should start with Boehner, if she dares.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)You know, I can object to something someone does, and I can think it is an awful thing. I can say, "Hey that was a really shitty thing that person did" and not be demanding some kind of physical or financial exaction be levied on them.
This is, more and more, a harder concept for people to grasp on DU.
She shouted, she got shouted back at. Done, done.
Welcome back to port, Commodore.

quinnox
(20,600 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I decree that she must spend the rest if her life as an asshole.
petronius
(26,695 posts)a particular act (a heckling, a shoe throwing, a traffic disruption, any form of protest or expression) and to think the act was silly, ineffective, disruptive or whatever - but still be in full or partial agreement with the position or opinion being expressed by the actor.
(Love the picture! I wonder if they were going really fast, or if they just managed to hit at high tide. The former amuses* me more, so that's what I'm going to believe...
* With the caveat that I really hope no one was hurt. That wouldn't be funny** at all...
** And, it wouldn't be funny if there was any resulting environmental damage...)
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)On DU for as long as possible. Mebbe get a pitbull and a season pass to Olive Garden.
patrice
(47,992 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)nt
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Let's milk this thing!
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)She paid her $500 and had her say.
DrewFlorida
(1,096 posts)This will teach her how misplaced her heckling really was.
We are not the enemy!
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)questions for the Q & A afterwards. Oh, and keep cellphones off or on vibrate, people paid good money to hear a speech. Kind of like the movies.
The Link
(757 posts)I laugh at idiots that try to paint her as a racist.
frylock
(34,825 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)I don't think she should be allowed back into any 1st Lady events.
Maybe she should go holler at Congress. Heckle people that are actually against lgbt rights.
GoCubsGo
(34,662 posts)Mrs. Obama fights back, much to her surprise and dismay. I don't think she's going to try that again.
She SHOULD go holler at Congress. They're the real problem here.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)and harass her donors and friends and anyone who may have aided her.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)Fearless
(18,458 posts)Response to quinnox (Original post)
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quinnox
(20,600 posts)you are one of my favorite duers and all....
MineralMan
(150,609 posts)She heckled. She was countered by Michelle Obama. She was tossed out of the event.
Why would there be any further punishment?
Since that option was not one of the choices, I passed and added it in my post.
monmouth3
(3,871 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)further their causes. Both are nothing but attention junkies.
monmouth3
(3,871 posts)onpatrol98
(1,989 posts)The audience wanted her gone. She left. End of story.
P.S. Maybe a little training...
Trainer: If you interrupt ANYONE while they are speaking, they may respond.
Heckler In Training: Ohhhhhhhhhhh
sibelian
(7,804 posts)Fetch the scales.
Throckmorton
(3,579 posts)Nothing more should happen to her.
frylock
(34,825 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)Other than that nothing should happen to her.
DinahMoeHum
(23,356 posts). . .that's all she's entitled to.
QC
(26,371 posts)Where'd he go anyway? I was wanting to see more.
QC
(26,371 posts)I'm sure he'll come along and put you on FULL IGNORE as soon as he's caught up.
Bobbie Jo
(14,344 posts)is busy firing up their sock drawer for shits and giggles, if you ask me.
patrice
(47,992 posts)all about how executive orders work, so that we can see that PO can and should write executive orders for ALL of our problems.
LonePirate
(14,333 posts)People on DU calling for her punishment are no different than right wingers who chastised anyone who dared to speak out against Bush when he was president during the last decade.
I am shocked so many DU members voted in this poll.
patrice
(47,992 posts)LonePirate
(14,333 posts)The homeowners had Sturtz escorted away from the event. That is perfectly fine and I have no problems with that.
I do have problems with people - especially people on what should be a progressive and Democratic web site - who are up in arms about an American using non-violent civil disobedience to enact social change. I swear DU seems more like FR than anything today.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)go heckle Congress or Ted Cruz or Rubio or any other right wing nutbar that opposes lgbt rights.
Did she go heckle Ann Romney when it was campaign time? Did she heckle Laura Bush?
LonePirate
(14,333 posts)None of these people have direct access to the current president like Michelle does.
I support Sturtz for her actions yesterday.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)I think it was too rude, and the wrong place, wrong time.
I never heard about Sturtz heckling Ann Romney or Laura Bush.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Quelle surprise. Only a matter of time before you stop getting away with this shit.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)doosh
bluedigger
(17,395 posts)The sooner, the better.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)she has already given herself.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)knowledge, it's still not a crime to be rude & insult the host's guest.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)nt
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Apparently the first lady's husband said something about signing an executive order banning federal contractors from discriminating based on sexual orientation and gender identity.
Sturtz had the nerve to ask the president to keep his word.
And it's not like signing an order will rock Washington's world -- as The Washington Post pointed out, of the "employees of federal contractors that are in the Fortune 1000, 92% are already protected by a company-wide sexual orientation nondiscrimination policy, and 58% are already protected by a gender identity nondiscrimination policy."
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)nt
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)nt
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)yeah I suppose so. I don't agree with her tactics, but it is an important issue. one of the problems with her approach is her method stepped on her message, which was in fact important. I knew it was an lgbt issue, but I honestly had no idea it was that until you just told me.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)this was one of the latter. nobody is talking about what she said (except you and I right now, I suppose) but how she said it. it is called stepping on your own message and one of the worst things you can do in any sort of mass communication effort.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)What was she protesting?
Why was Michelle so defensive and threatening to walk out?
I guess we'll have to wait and see if Obama signs that executive order.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)nt
bravenak
(34,648 posts)And I think she's getting it.
REP
(21,691 posts)Obama handled it well (she's not an elected official); the protestor has every right to say whatever she wants but results are not guaranteed (though she is getting beau coup free publicity - more bang for her $500 ticket than she could have hoped for).
CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)How dare she interrupt that haughty, uppity Queen?
quinnox
(20,600 posts)seriously, despite the humor indications!
Tell us how you really feel, indeed.
CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)You've revealed a hate-on for the POTUS/FLOTUS and you've got the ice cubes over me? Flattered.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)near the top of my authoritarian scale, IMHO. You don't have the brass ring, but you definitely are a contender.
Warpy
(114,381 posts)All she needs now is a talking to about appropriate people to heckle and appropriate venues wherein to do so.
That's all. Nothing else is required.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Did anyone here call for any punishment or are your knickers in a twist because people are defending the First Lady who you obviously don't like?
CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)Fearless
(18,458 posts)Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)I would say we should give her life in the electric chair. First, she went after a non political target despite the fact that FLOTUS has campaigned for political events, and it was a political event she was at. Then because FLOTUS is black, obviously it is a hate crime.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)and their posts admonishing the heretics who don't agree with them.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Informal private dinner with the first lady seems appropriate.
MADem
(135,425 posts)trashed with her big mouth and misdirected ire.
Given that the couple hosting the event were gay (legally married lesbians, in fact), you don't suppose they wouldn't have EVER discussed these issues in a friendly way at this--or other--venues with members of the WH staff? This couple wasn't playing beanball--they were bundling for the DNC and hosting a low-key, friendly to FLOTUS, no-stress, no-drama, intimate event. That kind of shit, that's easy to do, not too much pushing and shoving, easy-in/easy-out/close to home is stuff that principals like FLOTUS like, and it brings in nice amounts of cash, and that cash not only helps elect Dems, but it buys access. This big mouth moron fucked that up but good for the doctor and her wife.
There were apparently three other hecklers in the crowd, but they (wisely) kept their mouths shut.
I mean, really. She wants to do some good? I dare her--and her pals-- to go yell at Boehner. That takes guts. Much easier to yell at a politician's wife after fucking over an influential gay couple and jeopardizing their access to lobby for change. Real smart. Not.
lpbk2713
(43,245 posts)Everyone with access to the internet, a TV or a newspaper knows her name.
Life will probably not be the same for her for quite some time.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)
Your straw man needs a brain.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,379 posts)Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)BainsBane
(57,377 posts)BainsBane
(57,377 posts)Did she break the law? I don't see an option for nothing. I don't approve of her behavior, but I don't see anything criminal about it either.
Raine
(31,092 posts)and it gives the public a chance to heckle her.
edited to add ... I'm not being serious about actually doing this.
Number23
(24,544 posts)The mere thought of it brings shivers to me spine....
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)Off with her head!