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James48

(4,598 posts)
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 04:12 PM Dec 2013

Happening now- Korea

HAPPENING NOW: Hundreds of thousands of South Koreans are participating in a general strike to protest the government's election-rigging and union-busting.


The South Korean police - 4,000 of them- attacked a Union Labor HQ's several days ago, without a valid search warrant.

Today, hundreds of thousands of workers went on strike and are protesting the action.

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SHARE to show solidarity with workers standing up!

More photos here: http://bit.ly/1dJROcd

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Happening now- Korea (Original Post) James48 Dec 2013 OP
Good for them. If only Americans would do the same nt abelenkpe Dec 2013 #1
If only. This should happen world-wide, a workers protest of the 2%, poor pay and poor conditions kelliekat44 Dec 2013 #19
K&R Teamster Jeff Dec 2013 #2
K and R cinnabonbon Dec 2013 #3
Meanwhile, in the US of A ... Scuba Dec 2013 #4
American Sheeple WowSeriously Dec 2013 #6
And look where it has gotten us. First they got everyone to make concessions. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #27
Geez, what happened in 1980? CrispyQ Dec 2013 #33
Ask the Air Traffic Controllers. They might know. Scuba Dec 2013 #35
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2013 #5
We should learn from this. WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2013 #7
Americans have been so brainwashed Blue_In_AK Dec 2013 #11
The Rich in America have mastered the art of propaganda AZ Progressive Dec 2013 #17
+1000 Plucketeer Dec 2013 #21
KICK!@ Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #8
More on the background- James48 Dec 2013 #9
"protest the government's election-rigging and union-busting." iandhr Dec 2013 #10
Yes James48 Dec 2013 #14
here`s some background on korea's labor problems madrchsod Dec 2013 #15
the korean unions do not fuck around.... madrchsod Dec 2013 #12
The 1% will simply move their operations to a non-union country magical thyme Dec 2013 #13
Yup, it'll only work if worker unions go global, like corporations have. nt SunSeeker Dec 2013 #18
That's a very good point. factsarenotfair Dec 2013 #28
Thanks for posting! HUGE K & R BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #16
Is Dancing With the Stars on tonight? n/t jtuck004 Dec 2013 #20
It's a rerun with Tom Delay and Tonya Harding; Linda Tripp and Ollie North are the judges. NBachers Dec 2013 #23
The American way. Freedum. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2013 #24
LOL! Enthusiast Dec 2013 #26
South Korea is pretty much controlled by about seven corporations Nanjing to Seoul Dec 2013 #22
But yet the life of the average South Korean is much better than life totodeinhere Dec 2013 #30
I guess I get to be the first to throw the BS flag. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #36
Yes, you are wrong. You seem to want to put the worst possible interpretation on totodeinhere Dec 2013 #38
If I misunderstood your intention, I apologize. But you seemed to make light of rhett o rick Dec 2013 #39
Perspective? Trying living there for two years like I did before moving to China. Nanjing to Seoul Dec 2013 #40
This is inspirational. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #25
Korea's always good for a lively demonstration MrScorpio Dec 2013 #29
These things tend to happen iamthebandfanman Dec 2013 #31
SOLIDARITY! L0oniX Dec 2013 #32
K&R. Glad to hear it. Overseas Dec 2013 #34
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #37
I'm in Korea and heard about this as well davidpdx Jan 2014 #41
 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
19. If only. This should happen world-wide, a workers protest of the 2%, poor pay and poor conditions
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 07:02 PM
Dec 2013

It could make a huge difference if all peoples everywhere could stick it out for just one week.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
27. And look where it has gotten us. First they got everyone to make concessions.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 02:50 AM
Dec 2013

Remember concessions? It didn't do any good. They still outsourced.

I guess we need to go back to strikes. It seems to be the only language corporations understand.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
11. Americans have been so brainwashed
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 06:06 PM
Dec 2013

by the concept of "American exceptionalism," "land of the free," etc. etc. etc. that they will never open their eyes to the gross injustices going on here. Now they're convincing people who can't find work that it's somehow their fault and that they deserve to suffer.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
17. The Rich in America have mastered the art of propaganda
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 06:53 PM
Dec 2013

And that's why they have been able to keep the American people from turning against them, they have succeeded where other rich people have failed. Even Calvinist Protestantism (brought by the puritans) in this country was used to justify the exorbitant wealth of the rich.

James48

(4,598 posts)
9. More on the background-
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 06:03 PM
Dec 2013

This started out a few weeks ago as a protest against privatization of rail lines- and the government
arrested Union leaders - now the people are responding.

Here is some background-

http://www.themilitant.com/2014/7801/780103.html

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
10. "protest the government's election-rigging and union-busting."
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 06:04 PM
Dec 2013

Can someone please enlighten me on the background.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
12. the korean unions do not fuck around....
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 06:24 PM
Dec 2013

the unions have fought pitched battles with korean army troops and tanks. there was a lot of blood shed and lives lost and it wasn't all that long ago.

what`s next...tanks?

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
13. The 1% will simply move their operations to a non-union country
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 06:28 PM
Dec 2013

It's easy to blame Americans for not protesting. The Koreans are new to the game. They have not yet been taught that if they demand a living wage and common decency, the 1% will either put them down or pack up and move.

NBachers

(18,131 posts)
23. It's a rerun with Tom Delay and Tonya Harding; Linda Tripp and Ollie North are the judges.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 02:19 AM
Dec 2013

It's an NPR fundraising event, hosted by Cokie Roberts.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
22. South Korea is pretty much controlled by about seven corporations
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 02:02 AM
Dec 2013

Samsung
LG
Hyundai
Kia
Anycall
Daewoo
Lotte

And the usual suspects of control around the world, mostly Yum Brands and McDonald's.

South Korea is about two steps away from the authoritarian rule they had under Rhee Syungman.

Good luck workers. . .good luck labor unions. Solidarity!

totodeinhere

(13,306 posts)
30. But yet the life of the average South Korean is much better than life
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:55 AM
Dec 2013

experienced by most of their counterparts in North Korea. Yet I don't see any threads complaining about the way things are run in North Korea. I am not defending anti-union activities anywhere, but a bit of perspective is in order I think.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
36. I guess I get to be the first to throw the BS flag.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 02:02 PM
Dec 2013

When you say: "I am not defending anti-union activities anywhere, but" it means you are going to defend anti-union activities but you are going to try to be clever about it.

Granted life is much better in South Korea but that doesnt make it unimportant when the South Koreans want it better. You are saying essentially, that the South Koreans should be grateful they dont live in the North and kowtow to their bosses.

And more of the same: "I don't see any threads complaining about the way things are run in North Korea." This is a news item. You seem to suggest that for every article about South Korea, there needs to be at least one about North Korea.

This is what I read into your post. If I am wrong, please clarify.

totodeinhere

(13,306 posts)
38. Yes, you are wrong. You seem to want to put the worst possible interpretation on
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:18 PM
Dec 2013

my comments. Well, I guess that's par for the course for Internet message boards. But be that as it may when I said ""I am not defending anti-union activities anywhere" I meant it. When I say something I wish that failing any evidence to the contrary you would take my word for it. I am not questioning your honesty and I wish you would offer me that same courtesy. If you care enough to investigate you can do a search for previous comments I have made at DU and you will see that I have often made comments defending unions and I haven't ever made any anti-union comments.

Look at my comments in this thread for instance.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=70720

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
39. If I misunderstood your intention, I apologize. But you seemed to make light of
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 05:36 PM
Dec 2013

this protest by pointing out that life is better than in the North. No one here is claiming that life in North Korea is any better.

I guess I didnt understand your point.

MrScorpio

(73,712 posts)
29. Korea's always good for a lively demonstration
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 08:26 AM
Dec 2013

It was that way back in the 80-'s too when I was there.

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
31. These things tend to happen
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 11:42 AM
Dec 2013

when you go around the world installing right wing nationalists as your 'safe guard' against those darn commies.

the south Korean government has been corrupt since its conception.

I do support our being in South Korea tho.. and I do support protecting the people of South Korea from their neighbor to the north...

this was part of the deal we agreed to after WW2 after all... and the Korean peninsula being taken from the Japanese who had oppressed them since the 1910's.

if the Chinese and north Koreans hadn't invaded shortly after the end of WW2, no telling what relations may have been by now...
not that I don't blame the Chinese for taking their civil war victory (with the help of north Koreans) and reciprocating it to their struggling party members to the south... would seem like a pretty good strategic thing to do I suppose...
tho im sure the Russians made it sound way easier than it ended up being.. the UN barely had any forces there after all...





davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
41. I'm in Korea and heard about this as well
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 08:30 AM
Jan 2014

It is worth noting that the freedom of speech and assembly are much weaker in Korea than the US. Last I heard about this the workers were fired. I don't actively read the papers here because most of the ones in English are either written poorly or full of propaganda.

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