whatever new and exciting things you come up with. Thank you again.

I love the new DU and look forward to the updates.

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Thanks, much appreciated!

Thanks for all your hard work!

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WTG, EarlG and Elad!! - - - - - - - - - -

Thx

Many thanks!

Thank you!

Much appreciated!

Still looks sleek on mobile and navigation even easier

I fully intended to renew my star membership and I wasn’t for making threats. I wondered if lower engagement meant less ad revenue, so I was conflicted. That said, I LOVE the patch. It’s the DU of old, but better. Passive props to EarlG and crew.. easy navigation and familiar. Thanks

Do you see the little magnifying glass in the top right corner? If so give it a click and see what happens. If you don't see it, please let me know.

It is something that we've only just included in the last month or so

I like them. I think folks will get used to these quickly.

it's much easier to find stuff now with the tabs

Top is black, with the links in royal blue and nothing is emphasized - impossible to use unless I squint

Try visiting each of these files. If you are on a device with a keyboard, after each file loads, hold down the Shift key on your keyboard and then click your browser's Refresh button. (If you're not on a device with a keyboard, just visit each file.)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/du4css/du4.css
https://www.democraticunderground.com/du4css/skinnermode.css
https://www.democraticunderground.com/du4css/nightmode.css

That may work to force your browser to download the latest versions of the stylesheet files...

Otherwise, you can email me a screenshot at earlg@democraticunderground.com

It looks friendlier.

Clear your cookies, cache and reload the page.

Windows desktop. Solved by signing out, clearing cache & cookies and restarting browser.

Looks excellent. Thanks for your efforts.

Easier to work with and more friendly.

Love that sidebar collapse button.

Thank you !

Is this happening on a specific page, but not on other pages? Or is it on all pages?

Thankyou! The sidebar collapse and tabbed navigation is awesome!

The boxes were just too...well, boxy. They took up way too much space.

We appreciate you!

Thank you.

That is much better. I like "Posts" having its own tab. Much easier.

You've done a great job. I love DU4

It wasn't a HUGE deal for me, but I'll admit it bugged me whenever I saw the two fonts juxtaposed. Felt like a coding mistake. I know you liked it, EarlG, so thank you especially for changing it back.

For the latest videos tab. I have zero interest non-political videos and I use that tab all the time as I drive a lot.

In the "filter bar" near the top of the Latest Videos page, click the "Relevance" drop-down menu and change it to "Political", then click the "Go!" button. Once you've done that, you'll only see political videos on the page. The software should remember your setting when you come back to the page.

It was driving me so insane I sometimes considered a DU break. I would have missed you, but it irritated me that much. Many thanks.

5 least popular tabs and add a "Favorites" tab which van be customized by the user.

Looks great!

I note that the replies are positive so that is good news. This old timer has problems with change so I'll wait a few days to switch to the "new and improved". Thanks for all the hard work.
I've been around since 2005 and have seen many changes. Now I find some of them beyond my understanding. Glad this new---revised -- is getting good reviews.

Make my choices about cookies and then being asked to sign in. Yippee!

If this works from the mobile phone as well, I'll be cheering.

Unfortunately it's somewhat out of our control -- the cookie banner is an EU regulatory requirement that is placed by DU's ad provider. It's supposed to disappear after you click it once, but apparently a lot of EU DUers were having a similar problem, and unfortunately our ad provider was unable to reproduce it. However, if this patch has had the unintended side effect of fixing it, I'll take that as a win.

I just got back in from Utrecht, and the whole trip back to germany, I had to contend with this annoyance the whole way home, no change from the past weeks. A desktop doth not a cell phone make. But maybe tomorrow, I'll have better news. Where I am doesn't seem to make a difference, by the way. This being a typical week, I've been in Germany, Spain, France, Belgium and the Netherlands. I just got home to Düsseldorf, and have to work tomorrow, too, but that's here in Germany, not too far from Düsseldorf, so I won't have any miracle breakthroughs to report, I'm afraid.

If you can use a VPN to get a US IP address while you're in the EU, that would most likely solve it. I only suggest this if you already use a VPN... if you don't, it would obviously be a pain in the butt to try to figure that out (and you shouldn't have to -- it should work properly in the first place). But if you do use one, it might work as a temporary fix.

They just sent me a gadget I am supposed to hook up with them on the phone. First disadvantage is that it would only work here at the house, and second, I haven't had a free day when I'd be awake long enough to get with them on this. My job is usually crazy work schedule October and November, but this year, there has been no let-up, and there doesn't look to be until I leave for the USA (December 26). Both James Bond and Jason Bourne would have gone on strike long before now.

However, WHEN I do, I'll monitor this, and get back to you if there is an improvement.

I was forced to click on the cookie approval banner on each page load.

I was able to fix it by deleting all DU-related cookies, then logging in again. I've had the banner appear once since then, but it hasn't reappeared since I clicked my approval, so it's now working as intended.

You might want to pass that on to your ad provider.

If you click that, a menu will pop open with your DU stuff -- Journal, Bookmarks, Profile, Account Settings, etc.

Skinner Mode can still be found in Account Settings. We've updated things so that Skinner Mode now uses the DU3-style tabs too.

Thank you.

I appreciate the work you do to keep this place going. It makes the whole world better.

even the temporary yellow banner on the front page. It feels clean ,fresh and easily accessible.

Today, I knew something has changed when I opened DU. Something looked different. Sure enough, there was your email. I like these changes, Thanks, again.

It looks more refined and finished, i.e., no longer like a work in progress.

Thank you!

I have to cover the top with a napkin so I don’t get a headache 🤕

I think we will include an Account Settings option so you can turn the "sticky header" off and have it scroll with the rest of the page. Obviously some people like having the tabs available all the time, so they can be clicked wherever you are on the site, whereas others prefer to have the tabs scroll off the top of the screen. I think it would make sense for it to be optional.

The intense blue bothers my eyes, also. Maybe a half-tone of the existing color would work? Otherwise, the site is awesome! Great work!

Having all those tabs on the top are great. This solves the problem I've had of finding various functions.

Fewer clicks needed. Thank you. 😊

Thank you!

happy about this!! TY EarlG & Elad!

That "My Stuff" was making me crazy b/c it would be Yellow so I would click it and there would be No Replies 1/2 the time.

Now when Posts are Yellow.. there's replies.

And, I like My DU & The Greatest!! More like the Convenience of DU3.. So we have the Best of both Worlds..

thanks for all your hard work on behalf of all of us!

When DU4 first appeared the view on my phone of the home page cropped off about 3 characters along the right edge of the titles and text. Once I went to a forum the right edge was normal. Yesterday the new version gave me a home page with three full columns wide with text so small I cannot read it. If I go to one of the tabs the left column disappears but there is still a narrow column on the right. The text is a little bigger but still to small to comfortably read. I cannot find the purported sidebar collapser. I dumped the cache and cookies from my phone and restarted it to no avail. I also went into settings and switched to large fonts. That also had no effect. So from my current standpoint the newest update is a big negative.

We have been trying to track this down for some time but have not yet found the solution. What's happening is that when viewing the home page with ads, somewhere on the page at least one ad placement is not respecting the screen width, and an ad that is slightly too big for the page will load in. When this happens, the section of the page that the ad is in will stretch out to the right, just beyond the edge of the screen.

We're still working to figure out what is causing this problem and when we do the issue will be resolved. Unfortunately until then, there's a chance that sometimes certain sections of the home page will appear slightly too wide.

As for the other issues, I'm a little baffled. You won't see the sidebar collapser on the phone because the mobile version of DU doesn't use a sidebar -- but from what you're describing, it sounds like you are getting the desktop version of the site on your phone. What kind of phone are you using, with what browser? If there's any way you could send me a screenshot to earlg@democraticunderground.com, that would be a big help.

Phone is android, Samsung Galaxy 10 using Chrome. Screenshot of home page. You can see how small that would be on a phone screen. Note also that the Trending and Latest lists are in the middle but they are repeated in the left column which is itself split down the middle. There is an add lower down that appears to span the width and cover up other text.
When I open Latest Threads the left column disappears. the text is a bit larger but still smaller than it used to be. An additional column of things remains on the right. I don't think that was there before but am not absolutely certain of that. It takes up about 20% of the width which I imagine would reduce the text size of the threads somewhat. Opening a thread, the text is very small. The list of replies is even smaller and half the width of the reply list is taken up with 3 columns of useless data that can be found by opening a reply if for some reason you want that data. I feel like a bit of an outcast as almost everyone else is zooming along with the new new version. I appreciate that you have looked at my special case.

Rich R

https://imgur.com/a/hQrvBsT
https://imgur.com/a/QQV6SJM
https://imgur.com/a/oKNSmob

That’s because two versions of that section exist in the code, but only one will be displayed depending on the size of your device (because there are different layouts for different sizes).

The fact that both sections are displayed in the screenshot suggests to me that your device might still be using a cached, older version of our stylesheet which does not contain instructions for how to deal with the new tabbed layout. That’s why you’re seeing both sections (among other things).

Try the instructions at the top of this page to clear your browsing data for democraticunderground.com:

https://community.qlik.com/t5/Official-Support-Articles/How-to-Clear-All-Browser-Cache-or-for-specific-site/ta-p/1710298

When you return to DU your browser will then be forced to download new files from our server, which means you should get the new stylesheet.

Please let me know how it goes…

I had cleared history, cache, and cookies before with no effect. I added site settings, that I did not know were there, it appears to have solved the problem. Looks good right now. Thank you and I hope I do not have to get back to you any time soon.
Rich Roehrdanz

Glad to hear it!

bring back the DU3 design back. That was the real deal.

Even DU4 is starting to look like a clone of DU3.

I'd bet that the popularity of DU would skyrocket.

the new top tabs!!! Nice and compact. The entire top banner area is so much cleaner. Great work on all of it!

I'm just glad those here who understand and know what they're doing are in charge of this.

I really like the latest changes. Many thanks for all of the hard work you guys do.

Great job.

Gracias!

One FYI - I notice that Inbox (0) link is highlighted in yellow when there is a new reply to a post, but there are no new messages in the inbox. Not sure if that's intended or not, or something on my end here.

I haven't noticed it myself yet but I believe it could be happening -- it's possible that it's related to a different issue which we'll be uploading a fix for soon. I'll keep an eye out and see if I can reproduce the problem.

I can confirm I was able to reproduce this. We should have a fix for it shortly.

Thanks for all your efforts!

The new tables on top are great. Thank you!

I absolutely love this place . Although I’m not very tech-savvy and don’t understand many of the new features, I appreciate all your efforts. Thank you.

First thing I did was get rid of the left side stuff. I'm happy.

In the far fetched circumstance that I receive a reply on a post, the post tab turns yellow, as it should, but the inbox tab also lights up yellow … even as it still says (0) for mail …

Minor for sure but consistent



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I took it off Skinner Mode to take a look. It's so much better that I might just leave it this way. Thank you!

I really hated that flashing yellow box. Drove me nuts!
Thanks for your updates and fixes.
I really like the new home page!

I have been on DU for more than 20 years. During that time I "lived" through many different platforms. Yeah for my old self it takes some time to get used to it. But really I always know that under those new versions, it is the same ol' DU with another pretty face.

Love, Cat in Seattle

The MY DU tab is a bit odd and breaks the newly established tab language of the DU interface. It turns yellow when you hover over it but is inconsistent about displaying a tab page when clicked. Instead, the user gets a pulldown menu of buttons. At this point, the yellow color becomes persistent until the pulldown is closed, which breaks the language of yellow meaning focus. I would redesign this pulldown to be a tab page the same as the other tab pages.

The other issue is unnecessary shortcuts. If you go to MY DU/Trash Can, there are these nonessential shortcuts to account settings, star membership, bookmarks, etc. These are readily available under the MY DU menu and not needed here. Redundant shortcuts can be helpful when strategically placed but there are just odd.

I just wanted to say thanks for this post, I didn't reply at the time but I did read it and I was able to incorporate some of your suggestions into the latest patch that we just released.

Y’all are just fabulous. Thank you for all you do.
I’d been missing the ease of greatest by time and now that you mention it, missing missing the user names — but did not complain because what do I know? I’m happy they are back.

You fix stuff before I even realize it was bugging me.