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Related: About this forumBiden is out. Let me tell you what is going to happen next on DU.
As you all know, it's been my strong opinion that forcing President Biden out of the race would be a severe political miscalculation. However, that opinion is now moot. He has made the choice to step down, and I respect that choice.
Since March, Democratic Underground has been operating on "General Election Season" rules. This policy, which we have had in place for the last 20 years, means that once a presumptive nominee has been determined, DU and its members will support the nominee.
However, now that President Biden has stepped down, we will be temporarily returning to "Primary Season" rules. This means that members are free to promote and campaign for any candidate they like as a replacement, until such time that we determine a new nominee. At that point we will once again declare "General Election Season" to be in effect.
I understand that many of you will be disappointed about this decision. I am too. However, it is imperative that DU members understand that going forward, regular DU rules are still in effect. If you announce that Biden's decision to drop out means that you are going to withhold your vote from the eventual Democratic nominee this November, you are in violation of DU rules and your post will likely be removed by a Jury. If you truly feel that way, fine -- just go somewhere else to post about it.
It is essential that Democrats come together to defeat Trump this fall. Nothing is more important than that goal. The consequences of a Trump presidency will be devastating for America and the world.
I imagine that there will be plenty of passionate discussion taking place as this all shakes out. I urge you to please do your best to remain civil in your posts and treat your fellow members with respect as we see where this road takes us.
Assuming they want it, I'm also going to provide amnesty for members who were flagged for review during the last 30 days, if they were flagged for too many hides because they were pushing Biden to step down. It's water under the bridge now. All hands on deck.
cilla4progress
(25,676 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,833 posts)ZonkerHarris
(25,195 posts)blm
(113,756 posts)Cuban, Spielberg, Bloomberg, and some others have been all in with Joe. Cuban warned us about those creeps.
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AleksS
(1,694 posts)Every single second of airtime, every cent of money, every word out of a politician's mouth that was wasted calling for Biden to resign could have been used instead to support him, and we would be miles ahead, instead of in this shitty shitty, and profoundly damaging situation.
If Trump wins, I hope they're f***king happy.
ElleMac
(6 posts)I don't like what happened anymore than you do. But if we waste even more time criticizing what is already done, we give the Republican's what they want. Right now we need to stay focused on our common cause. Defeating the Republicans. #EyesOnThePrize
LymphocyteLover
(6,557 posts)Eyes on the prize indeed!
roscoeroscoe
(1,582 posts)No sense talking about what's in the rear view window.
Eyes front! Stop Trump!
NoSheep
(8,265 posts)RandomNumbers
(18,111 posts)I am sick, disgusted, and feeling betrayed by the string-pullers of the Democratic party. Fuck them. They get my vote in general elections because that's how our system works, and the other party is literally repugnant. But I cannot WAIT to replace them at the next primary election opportunity.
CentralMass
(15,456 posts)Bucky
(55,334 posts)I'm assuming that everyone on all Democratic sides was speaking and acting in good faith, based on what each person judged to be the best course for the party and the country.
I trust Democrats, even the richies. Unless given evidence to the contrary, I'm content assuming only best intentions from any of the players on our side
I'm not blind to heterodox motives, even intraparty feuds, that our family groups break up into. But until I see evidence, for me, any Dems openly doubting other Dems gets too close to McCarthyism for my comfort.
CentralMass
(15,456 posts)markodochartaigh
(1,909 posts)and the millionaires, and the hoi-polloi who would help an authoritarian Strong Leader take our democracy.
DownriverDem
(6,585 posts)of Citizens United we will need those billionaire class of Dems.
ZonkerHarris
(25,195 posts)Captain Zero
(7,429 posts)Or do they have further demands?
DFab420
(2,951 posts)breaking the rules.
NBachers
(18,073 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,330 posts)I am upset. Im angry.
But ultimately weve got to stay united. Whoever our candidate is, they need our 100% support.
SlimJimmy
(3,246 posts)Lulu KC
(3,728 posts)I appreciate your sane and steady leadership.
MustLoveBeagles
(12,404 posts)True Dough
(19,958 posts)I hope to see some spirited discussion but far less of the "we are doomed" crowd. They're not helping anything or anybody (other than possibly the ReThugs).
Siwsan
(27,239 posts)I just feel completely hopeless.
we can do it
(12,732 posts)totodeinhere
(13,250 posts)But we still have to win this election. We need to do more than just vote if we are going to defeat TFG and we must defeat him.
luvtheGWN
(1,343 posts)Frankly begging you to do much more than just vote, no matter who the candidate turns out to be..
AllaN01Bear
(22,913 posts)chowder66
(9,781 posts)I'm going to push my reps hard on wealth equity, outsized influence and federal subsidies going to the wealthiest.
Susan Calvin
(2,024 posts)I am still going to do my best imitation of enthusiasm, in money and in deed.
Colorado Liberal
(152 posts)Both in voting and in feeling hopeless. My wife is in tears, and you know what I can't say to her: "It'll be okay. The people in charge of the Democratic party know what they're doing. They won't let Trump win." I don't see anything remotely resembling a plan right now.
soldierant
(7,787 posts)Of course I"ll vote for whoever it is. But all the energy just drained out of me. I need to take a week off.
Trueblue1968
(17,938 posts)We gotta FIGHT!!!!!!!!!
Siwsan
(27,239 posts)Three feral kittens I fought so hard to save, but lost them all. And now my sweet Sian has joined them. I haven't really slept much for several weeks, dealing that crisis, so this happening has me just about at my breaking point.
I've taken my 'emergency' anxiety medication. Hopefully it will help.
thinkingagain
(976 posts)Please take care
COL Mustard
(6,818 posts)You do so much for others and the defenseless...make sure you do for yourself! We need you here.
Trueblue1968
(17,938 posts)All of our cats are rescued cats.no did not mean to be cross at you Siwsan.
So sorry for your loss. Your fire babies are true in Cat Heaven now.
luvallpeeps
(1,064 posts)Get it out. I dont like the way he was treated, and after hes done so much for us he deserves better. Cry it out, then get up and fight.
sop
(11,078 posts)This is just like a nightmare.
10 Turtle Day
(399 posts)Straight D ballot, no matter who our nominee for prez is.
Right now I am in tears. President Biden was the best president in my lifetime. But I will support his decision, however sad I am now, and our nominee.
OrwellwasRight
(5,209 posts)Whoever is second is not even close. But it is probably the right decision in the end. We must support the ticket at all costs, but I do hope they in turn support us, the working classes. We must demand no backwards steps on labor and antitrust and more progressive fiscal policies.
Unity now!!!
Glorfindel
(9,903 posts)I have never voted for a rePuke in my life, and I'm not about to start now.
Bucky
(55,334 posts)They'll try to tear her down for being a woman, just like they did Hillary. It won't work this time.
They got nothing but a tired gimmick, a long record of failures, a fist full of dishonest gripes, and corrupt couple of bootlickers at the top of the ticket. We're gonna repeat, and maybe even beat, our 2020 performance.
Siwsan
(27,239 posts)I just always knew that Joe would be the most amazing President, and I was right. When he selected her as VP, it was perfection.
Maybe after I come to terms with everything else that's happened I'll feel less like hiding beneath my bed. As it is, I'm still grieving my poor Sian and it's hard to be optimistic about much of anything.
Bucky
(55,334 posts)"Winners always want the ball when the game is on the line."
. -- Gene Hackman, The Replacements
Siwsan
(27,239 posts)Topping everything else off, someone in the family kind of turned on me, at my most vulnerable moment, so every time I start to heal, something happens to smack me down, again. My kidcats haven't let me out of their sight, all day.
I see my therapist on Wednesday. Poor guy. Every time I have an appointment it is right after something awful has happened. I think he puts out extra boxes of tissues, just before my appointments.
Maybe if I eat something, I'll feel better.
we can do it
(12,732 posts)we can do it
(12,732 posts)Bucky
(55,334 posts)We're a family. We disagree inside the house. Then we go outside to fuck up the Republican bootlickers and fight together as one.
I promise you, you'll feel great when we put Kamala in the White House. We'll heal together when we start to help America heal from the trauma of MAGAism. That's our job and our mission.
proud patriot
(101,072 posts)Elessar Zappa
(15,462 posts)This site is one of the best on the internet, imo.
Silent Type
(6,145 posts)JohnSJ
(95,974 posts)will be VP Harris, I am not going to debate who it should or should not be. Let's see who the choices are.
LetMyPeopleVote
(153,851 posts)Link to tweet
ms liberty
(9,783 posts)Farmer-Rick
(11,211 posts)The Democratic party is going to have a very tough time.
yorkster
(2,307 posts)his Presidential stamp of approval.
Bless you, Joe.
RandomNumbers
(18,111 posts)I will of course vote straight D in November - there hasn't been any other remotely reasonable choice in my district in a very, very long time.
But I am disgusted about how this was handled. I really, really wish we could get on with fixing the voting system in this country so that people like me could feel like we even have a little bit of a say in anything. Some "democracy" we have here.
roscoeroscoe
(1,582 posts)Thanks Debbie Downer, Eeyore... Mr/Mrs. Got it all Figured out Already
No chance, yeah? I'm happy to see a new generation taking the captain's chair. Go Harris!
paleotn
(19,012 posts)Doc Sportello
(7,957 posts)But now it is all about electing Kamala Harris as our next President and saving our democracy.
HighFired49
(378 posts)Time to break out my old "Kamala for President" t-shirt!!! (Yes, I voted to Biden when that didn't happen.)
quaint
(3,464 posts)LeftLife
(26 posts)Please dont be true!
this is just WILD
riversedge
(72,822 posts)LiberaBlueDem
(1,113 posts)He can do it, bring us together and beat rump
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quaint
(3,464 posts)WhiteTara
(30,128 posts)do you think he will be able to vp? or is he going to push Kamala to the side?
quaint
(3,464 posts)What is he doing that makes you say he can't run his own state?
WhiteTara
(30,128 posts)could be wrong. he is very charismatic.
Tikki
(14,791 posts)Our State Democratic leaders have always been active in making the changes and keeping the good that
makes our State healthy.
I do understand that all regions of our Nation have their issues that need to be constantly dealt with towards resolving.
Most Californians are aware of Californias needed changes.
Our States diversity is an asset. Coming into contact, meeting and talking to everyone around you makes ideas come to life.
Sometimes change happens in the grassroots and then become plans that are legislated into laws.
The Tikkis
Tikki
(14,791 posts)And we were Extremely Happy with Kamala Harris as our States Attorney General and as a Senator and now as our Vice President.
Our lives feel progressive here
.an awesome feeling that makes us want more progressive plans coming our way.
The Tikkis
P.S. abtw..Our electricity has been on all Summer.
quaint
(3,464 posts)Polybius
(17,312 posts)Gavin has massive charisma.
Pisces
(5,791 posts)Blue Cape
(351 posts)After that, we need to have a family meeting.
Butterflylady
(3,935 posts)I think I should update my passport.
Music Man
(1,568 posts)Great ideas and good clarifications on things going forward.
All hands on deck, indeed. We have no choice but to win.
COL Mustard
(6,818 posts)I know this was a very hard decision for him and his family to make. Now I guarantee you that Ill vote for whoever is at the top of the Democratic ticket in November, even if I wouldnt have supported that person before. Its that important to me that we all unite and defeat Trump.
Edited to add: I hope Ill be included in the amnesty offer.
SunSeeker
(53,486 posts)PatSeg
(49,607 posts)Well there we have it. 😳
PatSeg
(49,607 posts)Hope22
(2,534 posts)True Blue American
(18,133 posts)bluestarone
(18,033 posts)I LOVE Joe Biden. It's his choice, and i support that 100% I WILL vote for whomever the nominee is!! LET'S get this DONE!!!
oldsoftie
(13,503 posts)A true Patriot
A true supporter of freedom
supporter of democracy
supporter of women rights
Etc!
bluestarone
(18,033 posts)AverageOldGuy
(1,957 posts)And I mean WE ARE READY TO ROLL.
We have been ridin' with Biden, and now we will ride with whomever is in the driver's seat!!!
thinkingagain
(976 posts)But I am trying to look at this as were all on a democracy bus and sometimes in long rides you need to change drivers.
Lets go Kamala.
barbtries
(29,684 posts)my stomach dropped, i feel weak. i think my heart is broken.
Harris. At least the people voted for her. i don't get why our country has to go down in flames like this.
yes, i'm pretty sure my heart is broken.
highplainsdem
(52,030 posts)Tadpole Raisin
(1,379 posts)or republicans bring the USA down. Its more important than ever to fight the good fight.
We will do it for Biden.
We will do it for the country.
SupportSanity
(1,016 posts)hear hear!! well said.
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Moosepoop
(1,995 posts)At least, not for long. We need you here. I really hope you reconsider.
spooky3
(35,961 posts)want but please come back.
bigtree
(89,808 posts)...maybe after Kamala's nominated.
thanks, spooky3.
totodeinhere
(13,250 posts)That attitude will ensure a Trump victory.
BWdem4life
(2,413 posts)Bigtree has earned the right to do whatever he feels like doing.
bluesbassman
(19,777 posts)but Im never going to forget how we got here. No I wont. 😡
ramen
(860 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(176,717 posts)This takes courage.
orleans
(34,811 posts)totodeinhere
(13,250 posts)Tomorrow is time for getting back to work to make sure we defeat TFG.
markpkessinger
(8,550 posts)The news is still fresh, and for some of us, quite raw. If several days from now people are still wallowing, then it might be appropriate to say, "This is no time for crying," but not now@
Niagara
(9,362 posts)33taw
(2,723 posts)RandomNumbers
(18,111 posts)I feel like the road just got a lot harder.
I don't know who is pulling the strings behind the scenes but I am sure they took care of themselves - they sure as hell aren't looking out for me. And now I don't even get a vote as to the eventual nominee.
33taw
(2,723 posts)opinion about who you want. Its no different than if Biden had died today, we would be in the same boat.
RandomNumbers
(18,111 posts)in my field, when it comes to solving problems and knowing how to coordinate to get stuff done.
I'm tired of the ageist bullshit.
Oh by the way, if Biden had died, Kamala Harris would be POTUS, *now*.
I don't think for one second my local delegates will listen to me. If anyone who made a difference listened to me, they would have stuck by Joe Biden.
If the party doesn't nominate Harris, we will lose Black voters, I'm sure. And sadly I don't think she is a strong candidate.
dobleremolque
(891 posts)Only, I think I'll modify them with this graphic.....
Sigh. Better than doing nothing.
Sparkly
(24,309 posts)I'm concerned that things might get contentious before and during the convention in ways that would weaken her candidacy and the party.
If it's "primary season" again, is she open to attacks? Is the door open for people to suggest everybody and their uncles as better alternatives because "she can't win" (supposedly)?
Would really be nice to have some unity -- even if everyone isn't happy, at least so that it doesn't get ugly.
Polybius
(17,312 posts)We have a right to support any Democrat that we wish before the Convention. After, of course, we must unite.
catchnrelease
(2,004 posts)It was at least a month ago that I saw comments coming from the right, saying she isn't eligible because she's not really a citizen. Because her parents were not born in this country. HELLO--she was born in Oakland, CA! So they were trying to push the 'birther' bs again. People that are ignorant of the laws pertaining to eligibility will fall for this crap again.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(114,487 posts)Their racist slip is showing.
kellytore
(208 posts)ultralite001
(1,106 posts)TIA...
William769
(55,783 posts)Mr.WeRP
(547 posts)dchill
(40,184 posts)Hope it's not Trump... Or Vance.
Escurumbele
(3,584 posts)that they will not support the new nominee. I think we should be able to know how people feel, how people are thinking in order to have a sense for how this election will shape out. By not allowing people to present their opinion we all suffer from lack of information, I for one want to know how our fellow Democrats are thinking, information is power.
I know that I personally will support any Democrat who becomes the nominee, there is not even the slightest doubt in my mind, but we don't know, and because of the rule, we may never know how other Democrats will react to this awful news.
I am hoping everyone supports whomever becomes the nominee, but I also want to know who isn't, and why.
mchill
(1,072 posts)DU rules, but now understand why I felt like I was a minority of one and just avoided coming here for awhile. I think Biden is one of the best Presidents of my long life and admire him for making this decision.
mchill
(1,072 posts)I totally agree with your sentiment.
wnylib
(24,147 posts)ultralite001
(1,106 posts)we will weather this storm...
nolabear
(43,115 posts)No, really, thank you so much for your levelheaded leadership here. What a world
DonCoquixote
(13,665 posts)is 30 pieces of silver.
and while I cannot name name, a lot of the people who stabbed Biden in the back are themselves old.
StarryNite
(10,671 posts)It was always about the money.
gademocrat7
(11,126 posts)totodeinhere
(13,250 posts)I, as many others at DU am heartbroken. But we must move on and defeat Donald Trump. I will support whoever is nominated at the convention.
quakerboy
(14,098 posts)Probably a lot of lives. Literally, not metaphorically.
mamacita75
(101 posts)EarlG for your commitment to democracy. I absolutely agree.
GoYouPackersGo
(83 posts)I appreciate your leadership here. Longtime lurker, time to get more involved.
farmboy
(296 posts)spicysista
(1,723 posts)I really appreciate this forum.
stollen
(499 posts)Those are the choices
mjvpi
(1,565 posts)BlueKota
(3,382 posts)I will miss him as our nominee. I will definitely vote for whomever runs as a Democrat.
Beating Trump is all that matters, like you said Earl!
dai13sy
(466 posts)I would vote for President Joe again in a heartbeat but Earl was right - I have to think of our country and not just myself and President Joe has told us all what we need to do now. We need to concentrate, use our brains and find someone who can win NOW!!
electric_blue68
(17,512 posts)Response to EarlG (Original post)
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mahina
(18,840 posts)MiHale
(10,643 posts)Really now is the time to stay the course listen to our President he will let the us know the plans
Autumn
(45,978 posts)totodeinhere
(13,250 posts)understandable that resentment against some Democratic officials who stabbed Joe Biden in the back will be present. But we have to move past that and all get on one team to defeat the fascist.
BonnieJW
(2,497 posts)I completely agree. Just like in Frnace recently, everyone who loves democracy must unite to preserve our country and defeat monsters wanting to destroy all we hold dear.
AllaN01Bear
(22,913 posts)AllyCat
(16,950 posts)For our democracy, for him and his family. For women, minorities, immigrants, LGBTQIA+ Americans
.
Everything.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,167 posts)I'm applying for a passport tomorrow.
Niagara
(9,362 posts)Phone banking or helping with postcards?
I don't have the means to move out of the country, but I have the means to help GOTV.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,167 posts)Not much left after rent, car, utilities and food
Niagara
(9,362 posts)I'm feeling grief but I'm not giving up. Hugs to you, ArkansasDemocrat1!
cheezmaka
(785 posts)Elessar Zappa
(15,462 posts)is that most of the good countries dont want people unless theyre rich or have a skill they need. So Im out. Now theres always Mexico but the corruption there makes our country look squeaky-clean.
ecstatic
(34,254 posts)This is so freaking shocking. Is he going to give a speech or what??
All hands on deck, indeed! Holy crap!
It's onward and upward from here. With thanks and gratitude to President Biden for all he has done and continues to do for our country, may his legacy continue.
Drum
(9,686 posts)Stay strong Dems and DU Community!
emulatorloo
(45,528 posts)Not happy Biden was forced out.
But as always, Im blue no matter who.
Beck23
(123 posts)Since Harris will carry on BIden's regulatory policies, expect the tech bros to target her next.
Bluethroughu
(5,645 posts)gordianot
(15,472 posts)I will donate money after the convention. I refuse to participate divisive self serving arguments.
Jarqui
(10,422 posts)I am disappointed with the ones who spoke out against Joe.
To me, that stuff belonged behind closed doors.
But I'd still vote for all of them to keep a Republican out of office.
I'm not surprised by this because those who spoke out damaged him politically.
Joe Biden is a very good and very decent man.
He's been solid as a rock his whole political career.
I hurt for him and his family but I'm very grateful for his service.
some_of_us_are_sane
(386 posts)but I will support ANY DEMOCRAT in the race for the presidency. Our determination to get Trump OUT is now the primary objective.
"Hope begins in the dark, the stubborn hope that if you just show up and try to do the right thing, the dawn will come. You wait and watch and work: you don't give up."
Anne Lamott
samnsara
(18,262 posts)Micky Mouse...however since they took away my Joe then damn well give me a ticket to get really excited about. Kamala and Gretchen!!
And Tay Tay singing at the convention and gotta work Barbie in there some where.
BarbD
(1,211 posts)Disappointed that Joe was not able to continue and unable to convince the naysayers. However, I have now taken my Kamala poster from her "For the People" campaign and hung it on the wall.
Question: Who will be Vice President on the Harris ticket?
BWdem4life
(2,413 posts)But at the very least, it seems to me that we the people voted for her as VP nominee so unless she also drops out (she won't) they can't remove her from the ticket completely.
Or is that also wishful thinking?
IzzaNuDay
(530 posts)This is an existential threat to our nation.
I am beyond angry!
Maru Kitteh
(28,961 posts)Orange POS.
We must respect Joe's decision and move forward to beat that screaming piece of crap.
Arne
(3,568 posts)just fine,
just fine,
just fiinnee.
Lulu Latech
(29,100 posts)My hope is that he is going to recover from this bout of Covid and that he remains well and involved In the party, and the election of whoever is nominated Im hopeful that he will have time to enjoy His later years and provide support and knowledge to our next Democratic president
liberalla
(9,907 posts)Heartbroken... but so grateful for this wonderful man and INCREDIBLE President! I will sorely miss him!
Hekate
(94,283 posts)Jon Meachem just called him Cincinnatus. Oh
meadowlander
(4,681 posts)DFW
(56,367 posts)But now we have to play the hand we were dealt.
So, OK, lets play to win.
Like an old friend of mine liked to say, nuff said!
sanduca
(56 posts)I support President Biden 100% and I'm against anyone that wanted him out. I said many times, he is the only one who should make that decision. If he did, then we can support our next nominee who should be Kamala. All the campaign money can be transferred to her campaign.
I also want to see a huge celebration honoring our beloved President Biden at the convention. That is a good way to unite the party.
He deserves respect, appreciation for all he has done for America.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,515 posts)Grumpy Old Guy
(3,521 posts)Niagara
(9,362 posts)I thought that after Vance's statement yesterday about Joe stepping down would have been the key to Joe taking off the gloves.
I received this from the Biden Victory Fund on July 17th, so I didn't see this announcement coming at all. Obviously I replaced my real name with my DU name and I'm not an expert 3D Paint professional at all. I'm keeping this as a souvenir.
My heart is heavy and I'm currently filled with grief. I trust Joe Biden and I always will. Thank you, Joe!
sarchasm
(1,224 posts)mountain grammy
(27,168 posts)Today I'm gonna have a good cry, a stiff drink, bake some marijuana cookies, and get ready to fight for Democrats and America... tomorrow.
JustAnotherGen
(33,286 posts)totodeinhere
(13,250 posts)After all, those who got their posts removed for saying Joe would withdraw turned out to be right. Should they be punished for being right?
BWdem4life
(2,413 posts)They were removed for suggesting he SHOULD drop out.
They were part of the undemocratic force that PUSHED him out against his will and against the wishes of the majority..
Huge difference. But nice try revising very recent history.
JustAnotherGen
(33,286 posts)2020 when a lot of my AfAm group members were harassed. For writing things like "AmeriKKKa". It was true then and it's true now - but pointing out the realities of life experienced as an American who is black is divisive.
Eh? At least a lot of the bigots are gone too.
kansasobama
(1,406 posts)I am going to send a letter with choice words for those who perpetrated this ouster. Donor class has betrayed the Party.
FakeNoose
(35,386 posts)We should share everything we find out so all DUers can know who they are.
lpbk2713
(43,197 posts)I've always voted for the Dem pres nominee ever since JFK.
I'm not going to change now.
Ilsa
(62,190 posts)the reality to come. Thank you for your wisdom.
ybbor
(1,599 posts)We must keep the White House at all costs. I support our nominee regardless of who they are. But what about all of his $? How is that used now?
TBF
(34,022 posts)I joined DU when I was doing heavy volunteering for Obama here in TX in 2008. It seemed an uphill battle (it certainly was in our state!). But this too we can overcome. Si Se Peude!
Mike Nelson
(10,250 posts)... here. The Trump/Vance ticket must be defeated.
Iris
(16,004 posts)spooky3
(35,961 posts)Renew Deal
(82,848 posts)Except for this week. I'm hoping that we can back away from those kinds of arguments.
BoRaGard
(2,668 posts)Ms. Toad
(35,384 posts)I was hoping those unfairly (in my opinion) forced out would be welcomed back. I am glad that is your decision.
Xiluleke
(1 post)Ugh. In this fight still for democracy no matter what!
Lunabell
(6,756 posts)I'm all in it to win it with her!!
NewHendoLib
(60,436 posts)The Bopper
(252 posts)Most of friends arent going to vote for somebody else, thats whats going to happen. Forcing the best President in the last 100 years out shows my Democratic voting since 1974 has been wasted. GOOD BY AND GOOD LUCK hiding from the Trump Nazis.
BWdem4life
(2,413 posts)And I hope you will too. This is awful but tRump will be a thousand times worse. Stop the bleeding first, then focus on repairing the injury.
dreamland
(972 posts)GO DEMS!
redstatebluegirl
(12,458 posts)I will not be sending another dime to the party. Let the billionaires do it.
Trueblue Texan
(2,884 posts)I don't know how in the fucking I'll ever be able to watch any media again. FUCK YOU MSNBC!!!
I'm gone. I can't be here for a long while. Goodbye.
RussBLib
(9,649 posts)...we were already in the Twilight Zone. I think we've taken a turn to the Outer Limits.
The future is never certain. We are all grateful to Joe Biden and what he has done for this country. Obviously, a ton of work remains. People wanted a change to some younger leadership, well, here ya go.
I feel more calm about this than I expected.
We can still beat Trump.
https://russblib.blogspot.com
farmbo
(3,138 posts)And I hope well see an end to the postings asserting that a handful of mega donors engineered this behind the scenes, insinuating that the DNC is now somehow corrupted by money.
It is the GOP not the DNCthat should be the focus of such criticism.
Cha
(304,612 posts)the news.
We Have to Beat the Fascist Monster.. Bottom Line!
msfiddlestix
(7,730 posts)I too am very disappointed, but as you stated the most important thing we do is beat TSF. overwhelmingly.
I'll take my own counsel as well regarding my thoughts which are quite unsettled.
Practice and do some wood-Shedding on new music.
I'll peak-in every now then..
3825-87867
(1,066 posts)!
CentralMass
(15,456 posts)Elessar Zappa
(15,462 posts)The party seems to be coalescing around her and Biden endorsed her. Which would likely mean that his freed delegates would vote for her nomination.
marble falls
(61,858 posts)MuseRider
(34,334 posts)You are the very best! I have always loved this forum and a good lot of being able to stay all these years is the stability you provide and your sane and calm guidence.
I always run my posts through the "will I get kicked off DU?" filter because I honestly do not know what I would do without this site to teach me, guide me, correct me, inform me and just be a large pack of pals most of the time.
Thank you for being here so we can function in all those ways.
duncang
(3,405 posts)Its yes Im pissed he left the race. But we have a bigger problem if tfg wins. Whoever comes up weve got to support. The damage faced with a tfg presidency far outweighs hurt feelings now.
liberal N proud
(60,916 posts)PERIOD!
justcheckinin
(9 posts)We have all been working our hearts and minds with intention of supporting Biden. I do believe this has been carefully orchestrated with $$$$$$$.
God help America.
Laura
sagetea
(1,429 posts)but I did, only to read that Biden is out. They allowed the oligarchs to throw out our Primary votes.
I'm heart broken and very angry. Right now this is not a country for the people, by the people, and of the people. We are a country of greed. Always knew it, now it's plain to see.
Thank you Mr. G, I love this place you've created, and I probably shouldn't say anything else right now. They stole our votes, and I won't forget it.
sage
Polybius
(17,312 posts)For example, let's say a Primary forum with sub-forums for Gavin, Harris, etc.?
Warpy
(113,093 posts)Describing what will happen if this occurs is not the same as promoting it. No one here wants to throw the election to TFG, which is what will happen because the anger out there at the primary process being stolen from the party's rank and file will be extreme, as it should be.
I would never try to discourage anyone from voting for a center right, spineless nebbish, we've all done it before, our noses firmly held, in the hope a far right lunatic could be defeated. However, this would be a coup, disenfranchising the people who cast primary votes. If it allowed to happen, it will likely throw the election to TFG as disgusted Democrats stay home. I don't want this to happen but it will.
This is absolutely the stupidest thing to have befallen the Democratic Party in my lifetime, worse than Koch funded conservatives running conservative southerners in a vain attempt to counter Nixon's courting of southern bigots after civil rights legislation had offended them.
That center right, spineless nebbish will likely get my vote so I can vote down ticket and against TFG. Such a person will never gain my enthusiasm.
Elessar Zappa
(15,462 posts)The party is uniting around her and Biden has endorsed her, which means his freed delegates will likely nominate her. Shes pretty liberal, so Im not worried about center-right or anything like that.
Warpy
(113,093 posts)because that's the only way it's going to look like less of a hit job on the party as a whole.
3825-87867
(1,066 posts)I might be a little concerned. Joe now is allowed to do anything he wants in an OFFICIAL capacity.
And I can think of a lot of things he might do because he really won't have to worry about S(C)ROTUS later.
GO ahead and smile Donny. Just keep looking over your shoulder...every day.
Biophilic
(4,615 posts)edisdead
(3,285 posts)There are a lot of liars about. And it seems we cannot call them out.
PatrickforB
(15,085 posts)BurnDoubt
(56 posts)"Don't Make Me Come Down There!!"--- 100% Support Here.
JJ101
(50 posts)The issues have not changed. Unite Dems. We can do this.
ms liberty
(9,783 posts)Have created chaos and division all on their own whims. At a time when we needed stability and continuity, they saw a vulnerability and took advantage of it.They have the power now, and does anyone really think they'll ever give it up, now that they know they can use it, win and get away with it?
I have no faith that the candidate we end up with will be OUR choice. I don't trust some process that's been created on the fly by a bunch of people with an agenda. And that's what it looks like they want.
Whatever happens, our only choice now is to vote for whoever they decide should be our candidate on the Democratic ticket in this election. They'll decide our new exciting process and the show will be presented to look as if it's all so very democratic.
But Frank Zappa was right, and the time has come. It's not profitable any longer for them to continue with the illusion. So they have taken down the scenery and they have pulled back the curtains, and now we do all see the brick wall behind the stage.
Fuck all of those people. They have homes in safe states, safe countries and the money to get there quickly. 99% of America doesn't.
Elessar Zappa
(15,462 posts)Biden has enthusiastically endorsed her and the rest of the party seems to be uniting around her. His delegates at the convention will likely honor his wish and nominate her. Remember, the delegates arent rich, connected people, theyre, for the most part, regular working people who are the base of our party. Theyre not going to do what the billionaires tell them to do.
New Haven
(1,072 posts)What I would like to hear now on DU, is a discussion about who would we would want to have for the SCOTUS replacements during her two terms. Harris is waving a blue flag, help her pick the replacements we sorely need.
Blue Dawn
(941 posts)I am blue through and through.
I am sorry to hear the news today, but I will absolutely support our Democratic candidate.
Tree Lady
(12,166 posts)My husband turned on the tv and it was all over every channel. All I can say is fuck fuck fuck!!!!!!
Cassidy
(207 posts)It will be very difficult to support a VP who has come out publicly against President Biden. I hope one of President Biden's loyal defenders will be chosen, but I will support the Democratic ticket, regardless.
infullview
(1,038 posts)He goes out with my absolute respect for doing an outstanding job. I will respect his endorsement of Kamala Harris. Shes very capable and I know she can get it done.
keithbvadu2
(39,829 posts)The aholes of both parties are calling for Biden to resign now.
NO!
Farmer-Rick
(11,211 posts)Force Biden out of the presidency now, put Kamala in now.
Then disapprove of all of Kamala's VP appointments. Make her look weak. Force her to the right and she picks an idiot like Mitt or something.
chia
(2,353 posts)I'm exhausted and discouraged. This nightmare since 2015 never seems to end.
Wounded Bear
(60,512 posts)That is ABSOLUTELY NOT A GOOD REASON TO STAY HOME and not vote this fall.
trump must be soundly defeated and we will need all hands on deck, so to speak.
WmChris
(214 posts)They could run a stray dog against the rapist, felon, lying, racist bastard and I'd vote for the dog.
LiberalArkie
(16,308 posts)To make the correct choice. People with enough truthful information and under no pressure WILL ALWAYS MAKE THE BEST DECISION
Beacool
(30,290 posts)This election is far too important. Every election cycle politicians proclaim that it's "the most important election in our lifetime". This time it's true. The damage that Trump and the extreme Right would do to the country would negatively impact the U.S. for decades to come. Unfortunately, I don't see Kamala as the winner. For whatever reason, she hasn't been a popular VP with the majority of Americans. What we think as Democrats, or if this assessment is unfair, is ultimately irrelevant. I don't think that she can win most Independents. This is a sad time for the country. I see us careening into a quasi dictatorship, an authoritarian state verging on a theocracy. As the daughter of a diplomat, I lived under an authoritarian RW regime as a child. Americans don't know what is going to hit them, and how difficult it is to rebuild a democracy once it's lost. I weep for our nation.
ItsjustMe
(11,570 posts)To hell with this forum, I'm out of here.
malthaussen
(17,647 posts)By forcing Mr Biden to drop out -- and let's not pretend it was anything other than forced, as he went screaming the whole way -- based on what, exactly? They have acted with dishonor that is really quite breathtaking, IMO.
I suppose this election is less about personalities than policies, moreso than in many years since the policies of the opposing parties stand in such stark opposition. Most Democrats, and quite a few who are not, will be voting against DJT, the GOP, and all their works, and would do so if the Democratic candidate were a cabbage. How this will play with the genuinely "undecided" (if there are many such beasts left in the USA), I won't venture to predict. I know my limits.
No, the politics of this action interest me little, and are beyond my competence to assess. But the moral part, the ethical part, that I feel more competent to evaluate, and I am appalled that the Democratic Party have allowed a combination of money and biased Press cause them to force out an incumbent that has been one of the better Presidents, on balance, than most in the past couple of generations, and opened the door to incredible election chaos a scant four months before the election itself. How anyone could think this was a good idea for pragmatic reasons evades me, how anybody could think it was a good idea for ethical reasons eludes me as well.
-- Mal
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)blue-wave
(4,488 posts)is an understatement. Disappointed, saddened and angry too. Whatever will be, will be.
ImNotGod
(460 posts)boston bean
(36,424 posts)But i had hides both sort of for and against joe stepping down as i was undecided. Any chance they msay be reversed. I ask this respectfully. Understand either way. If not reversed i will just lightly post to avoid a potential ffr.
lees1975
(5,734 posts)Biden has been one of the best presidents of my lifetime. Thank you so much for the sacrifices you have made for the American people.
Burnnotice
(13 posts)I want to defeat Trump Vance Dictators. Biden is a Excellent President. 💯
I am guessing Kamala will pick a governor of one the battleground states for VP.
npk
(3,701 posts)She would have obviously been his VP for a second term if Biden had remained in the race and won a second term himself. I would assume that Biden will just pledge all his delegates to Harris at the Convention or am I wrong?
VMA131Marine
(4,568 posts)It might make her the front runner, and Joe is showing great loyalty to his VP, but we are making another mistake if we just blindly go along with making Harris the nominee. There are other potentially strong candidates and we need to consider them.
All that said, Harris will get my vote if she ends up being the nominee.
90-percent
(6,868 posts)But I'm inept at c&p on my android.
-90%
DallasNE
(7,546 posts)President Biden has been the best President of my lifetime. He was a manager type that just got things done under great odds. I will forever respect President Biden.
I am 2+ years older than Biden so I know first-hand how aging affects us and how the pace of aging speeds up once you hit that 80 mark. For that reason. I was hoping that President Biden would make this decision a year ago so we could have a normal process for replacement rather than what we face now. It is what it is so we move forward. I will not only support who emerges as the nominee but will also make a donation to that campaign following the convention in Chicago.
Crunchy Frog
(26,892 posts)I'm angry and I'm scared, but there's also some relief that we're leaving that state of uncertainty and limbo.
Whatever I may be feeling, I will vote for whichever Democrat is on the ballot.
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usregimechange
(18,440 posts)Biophilic
(4,615 posts)I'm numb and deeply sad at the same time. I feel like I've lost an important part of my life. Of course I will vote blue this fall. I just feel this has made some irrevocable changes to both our party and the country. Whatever happens next things won't be the same.
AmBlue
(3,427 posts)And a heartbroken "Hear, hear!!" All hands on deck indeed.
Dangling0826
(2 posts)I think Biden could have won against Trump hands down. I am scared, there is sexism in the country I just don't know if Harris can overcome that. I will vote blue no matter who!!
steventh
(2,156 posts)he did not allow additional witness Angela Wright to bolster Anita Hill's testimony at Clarence Thomas' Senate hearing. I was angry at him then. I'm heartsick now.
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markie
(22,866 posts)whomever it is (assuming Harris) we are in and will win
marked50
(1,436 posts)TheDemsshouldhireme
(204 posts)were easy to spot by the random capitalization of a word or two, conservatives can't help it, it's in their dna. See i shouted, you can't argue with what I wrote because it's in capitals. Too easy to spot.
rrrru4ril28
(7 posts)Since we are likely going to go to the Convention, we need to determine how many states have a shot at not listing the Democratic nominee on the ballot. Once that is done, we need to get Trump convicted on more crimes and expose any videos we can. I posted live videos showing Republican testifying against Trump, same if there are videos showing Fox, OAN and Newmax clearly lying. These need to be posted on media websites not controlled by right wing leading media as they will remove it. Basically, local newspaper websites are what is left.
Mr. Scorpio
(73,699 posts)Come hell or higher water, were sending Kamala Harris to the Oval Office.
JoetheShow
(88 posts)My first post and it's on such a bad day. Like most of you, I was strongly against the President stepping down. I was disgusted and dismayed at the politicians who publicly called on him to step down. It's okay to send messages and have discussions behind closed doors but it only weakens the party to air the dirty laundry. I've lost a great deal of respect for so many it's disheartening.
My scorn and contempt for the news media hasn't been this bad since they aided and abetted GWB in lying us into a pointless and stupid war in Iraq. The pass they continue to give to former President Felon is malfeasance on a grand scale. I laugh that those on the right who don't believe anything from the MSM but believe everything they find on Faux News or Facebook that supports their stupidity and hate. It's hard to believe we inhabit the same country.
Thank you for to EarlG and all here who have made this a haven of sanity in an insane time. I've been a long time lurker so it will be good to interact with other like minded folk
Elessar Zappa
(15,462 posts)Good first post, I hope we hear more from you!
calimary
(83,997 posts)Glad to see you weigh in!
This is quite a morning after, isnt it!
But if its Kamala, then Im a Kamala girl. Besides, I happen to like her anyway!
And frankly, were just waking up and havent started plugging in yet, so for all I know, Republicans could have set up a side White House of their own (since theyve had a hard time winning this one) and installed Bozo the Clown in their Oval Office.
less_engaged
(1 post)DooverBeliever
(14 posts)It is very sad to lose Biden. I was comforted knowing he was in office with all his experience plus his ability to surround himself with the smartest folks (not yes men). I am soooo thankful for what he has done for us, for the country, the working class...he is one helluva Pres.
I will strongly support our next candidate -- who ever that may be. All my friends will too.
We got this! We can do this.
DownriverDem
(6,585 posts)the best non-threatening white male Dem to run with Harris as VP?
maspaha
(372 posts)As a newer member, I greatly appreciate your explanation. We are all passionate about our politics, however, there is a time when we MUST fall in line, whether were happy or not, for the sake of preserving Democracy.
Afrocat
(2,782 posts)Trump is old and his fucking mind is rerouting, and splicing, around what ever is left of his diseased brain like the wiring of a Pinto that's been sunk in a lake. All The get out now people are craven dogs and Russian psy-op drinking momos. *looks at watch* We have about 15 minutes before they start in on Harris for not being enough of something or another.
Lulu KC
(3,728 posts)Those bastards. But I'm ready to tune them out and look forward to all she can do. She will have a great advisor in Joe.
wordstroken
(644 posts)Love you, President Joe Biden. ❤️
Thank you for all you have done for our country.
Time to support Kamala and her VP, and to keep Joes legacy and democracy alive.
FullySupportDems
(148 posts)You said it perfectly for me.
It was so painful not being able to read what you all thought todsy, I lurk no more. Thank you DU, please be there forever
Voltaire2
(14,631 posts)all of the post hides during that period.
Just discussing the reasons why people were urging Biden to withdraw was frequently deemed a rule violation.
I also urge everyone to not lose focus on the objective. The presidency is the objective, which specific person we select is not to run is not.
B.See
(3,313 posts)Just learning of these developments and I feel as you do. I feel for Joe, a great man and a great President, and I'm praying for our country, and for the world.
634-5789
(4,267 posts)SupportSanity
(1,016 posts)But that is to be expected.
Supporting Sanity, one sane decision at a time.
minstrel76
(87 posts)redqueen
(115,164 posts)Jmho
YoshidaYui
(42,598 posts)yay
NoNameGranny
(8 posts)OK, so I first need to get this off my chest. I really despise how the media continued their 2016 position that fanned the crooked Hillary flames (all under the guise of journalistic reporting). Their incessant focus on how poorly Joe Biden performed in that first debate as somehow indicative of a physical or neurological disorder is appalling. Now they have achieved their goal of pushing Joe Biden out. Are they trying to hand the upcoming election to a convicted felon?
Now, let me shift to a more positive, focused approach. Now that Joe has made his decision (which I, reluctantly, honor and accept), our path is clear - whether or not you are a Harris supporter, we cannot stand back and hand over our country, our democracy, to a convicted felon who is consistent in his disdain for women, the military, the rule of law, and the Constitution. Our democracy is at risk right now, and it is extremely fragile. So many have sipped the kool aid, and believe the lies spewed by Republicans and DJT, without hesitation or any attempt to fact check. Racism never really died, but there has been a resurgence of overt racism and I fear it will continue to play out, and escalate, during the next few months leading up to the general election. My hope is that the majority of Americans will take a step back, actively listen to the lies spewed by Republicans, and take a moment to really think about what America will be like for our children and grandchildren if DJT is elected, and Project 2025 is implemented.
I will continue to support the Democratic Party, and vote for the Democratic nominee. Our fragile democracy is at stake. My vote may only be one of many, but I choose to believe that my one vote will count for saving our democracy and preserving our Constitution.
samplegirl
(12,011 posts)I'm one of them. The gloves are off now. We must quickly move on as we don't have a lot of time. We can't be arguing about Biden on here. We must get behind our candidate and work like how flood, social media and whatever else we have to do. We can't allow Trump back in.
joanbarnes
(1,866 posts)Thanks EarlG. I will have no problem supporting Harris/Biden (BIDEN FOR VP!)
SayItLoud
(1,727 posts)I too am going to donate as if my life, your life, our country depended on it....because it does.
rwild1967
(39 posts)snot
(10,660 posts)I realize time is short, but it shouldn't be impossible; and I feel we really need it in order to inform delegate voting, even if it's too late for another primary vote.
ALSO, I hope this whole experience convinces the DNC to do both of the following:
Always HAVE debates, and
Have "instant run-off" primary voting.
TheDemsshouldhireme
(204 posts)the senator who most closely voted with Bernie Sanders was Kamala Harris. She is no blue dog. Its not like Harris is going to turn into some supply sider, it's why I dont buy this; the billionaires wanted Joe out because of taxes or some crypto guys. I dont see what tax policy would change with support for Harris.
BlueWavePsych
(3,056 posts)recovering_democrat
(277 posts)no questions, no problems. THIS is the choice of the current President, and the acceptance of his recommendation of the current Vice President as expressed completely.
Will support their action and recommendations and will follow accordingly. I am seriously overcome with related medical expense recently, and am not able to do lots of money support. I will spend any dime I can afford to support the upcoming Democratic candidates enthusiastically and as much as possible. Awesome American US Citizens. Thank you.
Martin68
(24,419 posts)discourse. I will do my best to abide by them.
Dem4life1970
(365 posts)I am a lifelong Democrat and I have been following DU since George Bush the appointed was President. I have loved this forum and over the years have debated whether or not I should join. I voted for Biden in the '88 Democratic Primary, for Gore in 2000, Kerry in 2004, Obama twice, Hillary once, and Biden once for President. I also agreed that Pres. Biden should stay in the race for many reasons, esp. due to Allan Lichtman's keys. That said, he has once again put country ahead of himself and made his choice. I was an enthusiastic supporter of Pres. Biden and am now an enthusiastic supper of VP Harris. Vote Blue no matter who! We have to stop Orange Julius Caesar from ever coming anywhere near the White House. Let's unite!
TwilightZone
(28,192 posts)I'm glad that you decided to join.
Dem4life1970
(365 posts)Playingmantis
(277 posts)Harris was a prosecutor who prosecuted sex offenders.. TRUMP IS A SEX OFFENDER..and she should say that during the debate..
I love Joe for so many reasons...and now..realizing that Father Time is catching up with him...has done what is best..allowing a younger person to run with the ball... Has the Orange Cockroach ever put the nation above himself? Think of how he killed the border bill for his own selfish reasons..and the scum GOP went right along..
And just compare the way Joe Biden spoke of Trump after the assassination attempt and compare that to the classless, clueless way Trump reacted to Biden's withdrawal.... Filled with the usual venom and hate..
Now I want Harris to tear Trump to pieces and end this national nightmare
Vote Blue 100% Democracy depends on it!!
GoreWon2000
(834 posts)Dictator tRump is the enemy, NOT fellow dems!
prodigitalson
(2,825 posts)hard2figure
(5 posts)I NEVER would have voted for Kamala, let alone give her money! I feel like I have been screwed by an 800 lb gorilla!!
prodigitalson
(2,825 posts)will you be joining us?
Beakybird
(3,389 posts)Kamala will save democracy. Let's help her.
samsingh
(17,884 posts)Generic Other
(28,999 posts)Anything less means Trump wins.
wyldwolf
(43,891 posts)That's when Harris will secure enough delegates to be the presumptive nominee.
akbacchus_BC
(5,740 posts)randr
(12,462 posts)I have often noted that there is a large hole in America at the present time. Both parties have a sense that things are not right. I strongly feel that we democrats and the Biden administration have held together what would have fallen apart if tfg had won the last election.
Regardless, the distrust of the whole system remains with both sides trying to define the large elephant in the room.
We now have the opportunity to embark on a new mission to more clearly define what the problems are and to present solutions to each and every one.
I believe it is our task to unite behind the future of this Great Country and show the world what it takes to secure a democracy and insure all human rights are respected.
bdamomma
(65,905 posts)for your most insightful post. We have a job to do and get it finished.
Renew Deal
(82,848 posts)Bucky
(55,334 posts)I actually avoided the phrase "Biden should step down." But I got a couple of strikes for making observations about his communication skills that made other DUers uncomfortable. One post included the word "teleprompter" which was understandably triggering, but entirely factual.
I don't regret any of that. I expressed my concerns about a not-yet-nominated Democrat because I was anxious about losing to a fascist.
I'm less worried now. I'm excited and eager to fight it out with the so-called Republicans (they're actually more like a monarchist cult now), but I understand if some DUers who opposed Biden's withdrawal are sore.
Ultimately, I think I'm a little more tolerant of dissent within this forum than the average DUer.. I think an open expression of ideas & concerns makes a democratic AND a Democratic culture stronger.
I'm 100% for Kamala now. But I'm glad to discuss with any who have other ideas.
Karma13612
(4,668 posts)Along with the person that they decide is best as VP.
While paying my bills this morning, I also made my first political donation for quite some time.
Im on Team Harris!
And although there are many greats to choose from, Im liking Mark Kelly a LOT as VEEP.
I feel so much happier today!
We are going to kick TFGS butt from here to Pluto! ( note the planetary reference in honor of Mark Kelly being an astronaut and all. )
hard2figure
(5 posts)It is very unclear at this point who that is. You say Harris, but that has NOT been voted on by the delegates. Remember, the delegates elect the nominee, not Biden, Hilary, or MSNBC.
Hanzzy72
(52 posts)With that said, I've made my first political donation ever today and I donated to Kamala Harris. Biden endorsed her and right now I'm convinced that we need a fighter to push back against Donald Trump and MAGA. I believe her to be the right person for the job.
Buzz cook
(2,575 posts)I think Joe was forced out by the media.
Until I read positive proof that he was mentally unfit, that's what I'll believe.
That being said Kamala Harris will be both a fine candidate and when she wins a fine president.
I've already donated to her campaign and it looks like I'm just one of a multitude.
SunSeeker
(53,486 posts)anilcnair
(11 posts)It sounds like you're diving into some political predictions! If you want to share your thoughts on whats next for the Democratic Party or any specific developments, Im all ears. What are you expecting to see?