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EarlG

(22,476 posts)
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:15 PM Jul 2024

Biden is out. Let me tell you what is going to happen next on DU.

As you all know, it's been my strong opinion that forcing President Biden out of the race would be a severe political miscalculation. However, that opinion is now moot. He has made the choice to step down, and I respect that choice.

Since March, Democratic Underground has been operating on "General Election Season" rules. This policy, which we have had in place for the last 20 years, means that once a presumptive nominee has been determined, DU and its members will support the nominee.

However, now that President Biden has stepped down, we will be temporarily returning to "Primary Season" rules. This means that members are free to promote and campaign for any candidate they like as a replacement, until such time that we determine a new nominee. At that point we will once again declare "General Election Season" to be in effect.

I understand that many of you will be disappointed about this decision. I am too. However, it is imperative that DU members understand that going forward, regular DU rules are still in effect. If you announce that Biden's decision to drop out means that you are going to withhold your vote from the eventual Democratic nominee this November, you are in violation of DU rules and your post will likely be removed by a Jury. If you truly feel that way, fine -- just go somewhere else to post about it.

It is essential that Democrats come together to defeat Trump this fall. Nothing is more important than that goal. The consequences of a Trump presidency will be devastating for America and the world.

I imagine that there will be plenty of passionate discussion taking place as this all shakes out. I urge you to please do your best to remain civil in your posts and treat your fellow members with respect as we see where this road takes us.

Assuming they want it, I'm also going to provide amnesty for members who were flagged for review during the last 30 days, if they were flagged for too many hides because they were pushing Biden to step down. It's water under the bridge now. All hands on deck.

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Biden is out. Let me tell you what is going to happen next on DU. (Original Post) EarlG Jul 2024 OP
You rock cilla4progress Jul 2024 #1
I'm donating all my free money to Harris through DU's links TheBlackAdder Jul 2024 #240
I am focusing my wrath on the billionaire class of Democrats ZonkerHarris Jul 2024 #2
Specifically the AI and crypto bros. blm Jul 2024 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Jul 2024 #97
Yup. AleksS Jul 2024 #118
Eyes on the Prize ElleMac Jul 2024 #180
welcome to DU! LymphocyteLover Jul 2024 #209
Amen roscoeroscoe Jul 2024 #285
Welcome! NoSheep Jul 2024 #313
+infinity RandomNumbers Jul 2024 #250
I think George Clooney was pissed that his wife didn't get "honored" for her work on a panel awhile back. CentralMass Jul 2024 #148
That seems speculative Bucky Jul 2024 #318
Of course. I was speculating. CentralMass Jul 2024 #319
I'm focusing my wrath on the billionaires, markodochartaigh Jul 2024 #202
Until we get rid DownriverDem Jul 2024 #247
and we won't need any pesky primaries either ZonkerHarris Jul 2024 #268
are their donations flowing in TONIGHT? Captain Zero Jul 2024 #276
I agree with everything except the amensty. Just because the got the outcome they wanted doesn't mean they weren't DFab420 Jul 2024 #3
Yes, there was a certain poster I was glad to see gone. NBachers Jul 2024 #143
+1 demmiblue Jul 2024 #244
Thank you, EarlG NYC Liberal Jul 2024 #4
I agree. Looking backwards is an exercise in futility. SlimJimmy Jul 2024 #320
Damn, you're good Lulu KC Jul 2024 #5
Thank you EarlG MustLoveBeagles Jul 2024 #6
Wise move, Earl! True Dough Jul 2024 #7
I'm still going to vote Siwsan Jul 2024 #8
Same here. I will vote but that's it. we can do it Jul 2024 #11
I understand your emotion. Myself, I am heartbroken. totodeinhere Jul 2024 #70
The rest of the democratic world is counting on You luvtheGWN Jul 2024 #75
in a state of shock here , but will support all dems. AllaN01Bear Jul 2024 #100
I'm going to vote but I'm also going to be doing a lot more than that. chowder66 Jul 2024 #93
That's how I feel too. Susan Calvin Jul 2024 #53
Same here Colorado Liberal Jul 2024 #77
I'm also in tears soldierant Jul 2024 #151
Hopeless ???? Oh please. Buck up, it is cheerleader in me... Get strong,, dont cry Trueblue1968 Jul 2024 #106
I'm just so emotionally exhausted from so much loss, over the past month, actually Siwsan Jul 2024 #127
Siwsan so sorry you work so hard for your kittens thinkingagain Jul 2024 #193
Hang in there, Siwsan.... COL Mustard Jul 2024 #239
I know what a wonderful person you Are. Cat lover. Hubby cared for feral cats too. Trueblue1968 Jul 2024 #289
It's okay to cry! luvallpeeps Jul 2024 #225
I don't care who the Democratic candidate is, nothing will keep me from voting straight "D" in November. sop Jul 2024 #121
Same here. Siwsan Jul 2024 #133
And me as well 10 Turtle Day Jul 2024 #155
The best president in my lifetime by a long shot!! OrwellwasRight Jul 2024 #296
That's exactly how I feel. Glorfindel Jul 2024 #178
Don't worry. You'll become excited about Harris the more you hear from her Bucky Jul 2024 #310
I've always supported her. In fact, before Joe entered the race, she was #1 for me Siwsan Jul 2024 #315
I've got boodles of optimism. You can borrow some of mine when you're ready Bucky Jul 2024 #316
Thanks. I'm just going through a very rough patch Siwsan Jul 2024 #317
What about those who had posts hidden defending Biden? we can do it Jul 2024 #9
Apparently we aren't important enough for a reply or consideration. we can do it Jul 2024 #291
You ARE important. You DO matter. Bucky Jul 2024 #311
Thanks EarlG proud patriot Jul 2024 #10
Sounds good! Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #12
Absolutely. Appreciate you guiding DU all these years, and especially the past few unprecedented months. Silent Type Jul 2024 #13
I am disappointed, but I am also well aware that we must NOW unite behind whoever that nominee is. While I assume it JohnSJ Jul 2024 #14
This is going to be a shit show LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #15
Yep. ms liberty Jul 2024 #45
This will not bode well Farmer-Rick Jul 2024 #65
Tears followed by gratitude for Joe giving Kamala yorkster Jul 2024 #94
Yes it will be, and it has been. And it didn't need to be. RandomNumbers Jul 2024 #265
Beg to Differ roscoeroscoe Jul 2024 #287
Amen and amen. Rally folks! paleotn Jul 2024 #16
People have a right to be mad Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #17
It's time HighFired49 Jul 2024 #167
First we have to get her selected as our candidate. quaint Jul 2024 #173
Nooooooo! LeftLife Jul 2024 #18
thanks Kali Jul 2024 #19
You got it. All hands on deck for democracy. riversedge Jul 2024 #20
Newsum is my candidate LiberaBlueDem Jul 2024 #21
Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #28
I am happy with Governor Newsom's running of our state. quaint Jul 2024 #89
good to know WhiteTara Jul 2024 #139
I doubt he will be a candidate. If he pushes Kamala out, I will be upset. quaint Jul 2024 #152
news reposrts re him/California WhiteTara Jul 2024 #156
Charismatic is not an action word.. Tikki Jul 2024 #224
We are Extremely happy with Gavin Newsom as Governor of California.. Tikki Jul 2024 #177
ICYMI: Gavin Newsom endorses Kamala Harris quaint Jul 2024 #302
Same! Polybius Jul 2024 #170
Thank you Pisces Jul 2024 #22
The Democratic candidate has my full support. Blue Cape Jul 2024 #23
Oh, I will do it, but I don't like it. Butterflylady Jul 2024 #24
Well said. Music Man Jul 2024 #25
I have the greatest respect for President Biden COL Mustard Jul 2024 #26
K & R SunSeeker Jul 2024 #27
I'm numb, I can't feel anything PatSeg Jul 2024 #29
OMG.... Hope22 Jul 2024 #59
I know, I am speechless PatSeg Jul 2024 #76
Yes........ Hope22 Jul 2024 #114
Devestated! True Blue American Jul 2024 #163
A TRUE Democrat would NEVER allow TFG return to the White House bluestarone Jul 2024 #30
A true AMERICAN wouldnt want Trump to return to the WH. oldsoftie Jul 2024 #235
YES! bluestarone Jul 2024 #253
In my home, we are ready to roll AverageOldGuy Jul 2024 #31
I too, was riding with Biden thinkingagain Jul 2024 #186
i didn't know this happened. barbtries Jul 2024 #32
Yes. All hands on deck. We have to win - for the country, and for Joe. highplainsdem Jul 2024 #34
Very fair and though I am so sad I will NOT let media Tadpole Raisin Jul 2024 #35
It's more important than ever to fight the good fight. SupportSanity Jul 2024 #259
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Jul 2024 #36
Please don't leave. Moosepoop Jul 2024 #122
Bigtree, your voice is sorely needed. Please take whatever break you spooky3 Jul 2024 #131
just a break bigtree Jul 2024 #303
Now is not the time to pick up your toys and go home. totodeinhere Jul 2024 #161
That's a bs reply BWdem4life Jul 2024 #221
I'll do everything I can to get a Democrat elected in November, bluesbassman Jul 2024 #37
Thanks for this. We have a lot of work to do here. nt ramen Jul 2024 #38
I'm crying. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2024 #39
i'm crying too. nt orleans Jul 2024 #43
Now is the time for crying. totodeinhere Jul 2024 #63
People are entitled tol experience and to fully express their emotions right now . . . markpkessinger Jul 2024 #132
Me four! Niagara Jul 2024 #136
I am sad for Joe Biden, but we must carry on. This election is too critical. Vote blue no matter who!! 33taw Jul 2024 #40
I'm not sad for Joe, I am sad for the U.S. RandomNumbers Jul 2024 #266
I am sad for Joe Biden. He clearly is struggling with aging.conract you local delegates and voice your 33taw Jul 2024 #280
I'm "struggling with aging" too - but I can still run circles around the youngsters RandomNumbers Jul 2024 #286
I'm still addressing my GOTV postcards to newly registered Democrats and No Party Declareds. dobleremolque Jul 2024 #41
President Biden has endorsed Vice President Harris Sparkly Jul 2024 #42
Disagree Polybius Jul 2024 #176
As far as attacking Harris catchnrelease Jul 2024 #208
Yep Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2024 #245
Let's go Kamala! kellytore Jul 2024 #44
Thx, EG... ultralite001 Jul 2024 #46
Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead! William769 Jul 2024 #47
Thank you EarlG Mr.WeRP Jul 2024 #48
Okay. Congratulations, President _______. dchill Jul 2024 #49
I understand but I don't agree with people not being able to say if, because of Biden not being on the race, Escurumbele Jul 2024 #50
I always supported this decision, was not aware of these mchill Jul 2024 #256
I didn't realize I was replying to you in my previous comment, but mchill Jul 2024 #258
OMFG!!! And that is all that I can say at this point. wnylib Jul 2024 #51
Together... ultralite001 Jul 2024 #52
EarlG for President! nolabear Jul 2024 #54
the only thing certain people deserve DonCoquixote Jul 2024 #55
Yup, because it never really was about his age or competence. StarryNite Jul 2024 #171
Thank you, EarlG gademocrat7 Jul 2024 #56
Thanks EarlG. I think that is a reasonable policy. totodeinhere Jul 2024 #57
We have to win this. lives are on the line quakerboy Jul 2024 #58
Thank you mamacita75 Jul 2024 #60
This makes sense. GoYouPackersGo Jul 2024 #61
Thank you. We're in this together. farmboy Jul 2024 #62
Thanks for this. spicysista Jul 2024 #64
democracy v. fascism stollen Jul 2024 #66
E Pluribus Umun mjvpi Jul 2024 #67
I thought President Biden was a great President! BlueKota Jul 2024 #68
I thought he was a great President too dai13sy Jul 2024 #205
Ty, Earl. I'm crying, Stunned, and (still) Ready to GOTV hopefully for Kanala, but whomever. electric_blue68 Jul 2024 #69
Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #71
Thank you EarlG for this place. mahina Jul 2024 #72
If it's a Democrat ...I'll vote for a canned ham. MiHale Jul 2024 #73
Does that mean there will be no more smears against our elected Democrats allowed? Autumn Jul 2024 #74
We are only human. There is a lot of emotion right now. I think it will be totodeinhere Jul 2024 #86
Many thanks for your calm guidance BonnieJW Jul 2024 #78
thank you , thank you , thank you times 1000000. AllaN01Bear Jul 2024 #79
I am heartbroken. AllyCat Jul 2024 #80
Get used to saying President-For-Life Trump ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 2024 #81
Do you have the means to help get out the vote? Niagara Jul 2024 #129
I'm Deaf and living on SSD ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 2024 #138
I understand that Niagara Jul 2024 #144
I feel your pain as well cheezmaka Jul 2024 #219
What sucks bad Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #194
Omg! I'm just learning the news! 😮😮😮 ecstatic Jul 2024 #82
Thank you! mia Jul 2024 #83
"All hands on deck" INDEED! Drum Jul 2024 #84
Appreciate the heads up. Thank you so much. emulatorloo Jul 2024 #85
Harris will carry on his policies Beck23 Jul 2024 #87
JB PRITZKER! KICKS ASS AND TAKES NAME KAMALA VP Bluethroughu Jul 2024 #88
My entire focus will be the defeat of Donald Trump by a member of the Democratic Party. gordianot Jul 2024 #90
That has to be the focus of ALL Democrats Jarqui Jul 2024 #112
My heart is in pieces some_of_us_are_sane Jul 2024 #91
i feel Joes health is paramount and I will support the Dem ticket even if its samnsara Jul 2024 #92
At the end of the day, we are all Democrats. BarbD Jul 2024 #95
That's wishful thinking BWdem4life Jul 2024 #229
Thanks EarlG! No question I'm voting blue IzzaNuDay Jul 2024 #96
I STILL trust Joe Biden. He made this decision so that we can WIN against that OPOS Maru Kitteh Jul 2024 #98
I am hope full that this will be Arne Jul 2024 #99
My hope for Biden Lulu Latech Jul 2024 #101
Thank you for this reminder... liberalla Jul 2024 #102
Still in the first phase of shock. Meanwhile -- thank you for your steady hand. Hekate Jul 2024 #103
Appreciate that. Thanks Earl. meadowlander Jul 2024 #104
I was hoping not to hear this news. DFW Jul 2024 #105
That was exactly my thought... sanduca Jul 2024 #107
No problem Earl... I'm with you all the way!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2024 #108
Thank you! Grumpy Old Guy Jul 2024 #109
I didn't see this announcement coming at all Niagara Jul 2024 #110
EarlG is the GOAT! sarchasm Jul 2024 #111
Thank you EarlG mountain grammy Jul 2024 #113
I disagree on the Amnesty JustAnotherGen Jul 2024 #115
I agree with amnesty. totodeinhere Jul 2024 #150
The posts weren't removed for predicting he would drop out BWdem4life Jul 2024 #233
I'm going back to JustAnotherGen Jul 2024 #234
Voting Harris but after Nov 7th kansasobama Jul 2024 #116
I hope by then all the names will be documented FakeNoose Jul 2024 #215
My party, right or wrong, is still my party. lpbk2713 Jul 2024 #117
You are very fair, very reasonable, and thoughtful of Ilsa Jul 2024 #119
Blue no matter who has to be our rallying cry! ybbor Jul 2024 #120
Thank you for being the calm in a storm - TBF Jul 2024 #123
All Hands on Deck... Mike Nelson Jul 2024 #124
Thanks, EarlG Iris Jul 2024 #125
Thank you, EarlG. Nt spooky3 Jul 2024 #126
One of the best aspects of DU was that we can have discussions without STFU arguments... Renew Deal Jul 2024 #128
Thank you, Earl BoRaGard Jul 2024 #130
Thank you. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #134
New member long time reader Xiluleke Jul 2024 #135
Biden endorsed Kamala Harris. Lunabell Jul 2024 #137
As always, perfectly timed and perfectly stated. NewHendoLib Jul 2024 #140
I'll tell you what happens The Bopper Jul 2024 #141
I think most of your friends will come around BWdem4life Jul 2024 #236
No Matter What happens, TRUMP will never gain from my vote. I'll take whoever is on the DEM ticket. dreamland Jul 2024 #142
I will vote for the nominee. redstatebluegirl Jul 2024 #145
I am totally FUCKING devastated!!! Trueblue Texan Jul 2024 #146
Thanks, EarlG. It's a pretty exciting development. RussBLib Jul 2024 #147
Thanks! A sound decision, promptly made. farmbo Jul 2024 #149
Thanks. I'm still Reeling from Cha Jul 2024 #153
Well Done, EarlG. I am truly impressed with and admire your leadership.. msfiddlestix Jul 2024 #154
I imagine the Secret Service will now get more funding. 3825-87867 Jul 2024 #157
I will of course vote Democratic but I hope there is an opportunity to select a candidate. CentralMass Jul 2024 #158
I'm pretty sure it will be Harris. Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #263
I will never vote for TFG or any other non Demorat. But I too angry be on DU for a while. marble falls Jul 2024 #159
EarlG MuseRider Jul 2024 #160
I've already been talking to my family about this. duncang Jul 2024 #162
Supporting VP Harris or whoever is the Democratic Candidate liberal N proud Jul 2024 #164
Well my heart is broken justcheckinin Jul 2024 #165
I wasn't going to come back on line, sagetea Jul 2024 #166
Will there be primary forums added like there were in 2016? Polybius Jul 2024 #168
You know they'll choose some center right, spineless nebbish nobody ever heard of Warpy Jul 2024 #169
It's going to be Kamala Harris. Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #264
It had better be Harris, Warpy Jul 2024 #273
If I were the Republicans right now... 3825-87867 Jul 2024 #172
Thanks, first comment that hasn't made me want to cry harder. Biophilic Jul 2024 #228
Beyond pissed and feel completely betrayed edisdead Jul 2024 #174
Acknowledged and thank you, Earl. n/t PatrickforB Jul 2024 #175
Joe's opinion is the only one I accept. Kamala! Bring It. The Felon, and Kamala For The Prosecution!!! Must See TV!!!!! BurnDoubt Jul 2024 #179
Issues have not changed--VOTE BLUE JJ101 Jul 2024 #181
I'm not disappointed, I'm furious. The wealthy, powerful, connected and the media who love/are them ms liberty Jul 2024 #182
The good news is that it will probably be Harris. Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #267
Presidential elections are about SCOTUS. Get on the Harris wagon now and stay there. New Haven Jul 2024 #183
Thank you, EarlG. Blue Dawn Jul 2024 #184
I decided to take the day off politics for my mental health Tree Lady Jul 2024 #185
Heartbroken though I am, thank you for being the voice of reason. Cassidy Jul 2024 #187
I love Joe Biden and he did what he set out to do. infullview Jul 2024 #188
i respect his decision and support Kamala. keithbvadu2 Jul 2024 #189
Yeah, that's their next predictable step Farmer-Rick Jul 2024 #197
A sad day. My heart's with Joe, but I'll be voting blue no matter who. chia Jul 2024 #190
As disappointing and yes, maddening as Pres Biden's decision may be... Wounded Bear Jul 2024 #191
I'm disappointed but- WmChris Jul 2024 #192
As usual and as I have said in the past, I trust the delegates LiberalArkie Jul 2024 #195
I will vote for a rock, if it's the Democratic nominee. Beacool Jul 2024 #196
And now you're giving amnesty to all these trolls. ItsjustMe Jul 2024 #198
So, would saying I think the Democratic Party has acted dishonorably be a no-no? malthaussen Jul 2024 #199
Trump is worse than a garbage dump...He smells worse, and he is worse. .Anyone is better than Trump...I am better. Stuart G Jul 2024 #200
To say I'm thoroughly disgusted blue-wave Jul 2024 #201
life isn't fair, elections are corrupted by big money and we all must pay taxes, it is what it is. nt ImNotGod Jul 2024 #203
May be too much to ask boston bean Jul 2024 #204
I respect his choice. I'm sure it was made with the help of his family and close friends. lees1975 Jul 2024 #206
Defeat Trump Burnnotice Jul 2024 #207
VP pick gfarber Jul 2024 #210
Biden has endorsed Harris isn't she now the nominee npk Jul 2024 #211
That's not how it works VMA131Marine Jul 2024 #279
Wanted to repost on fb 90-percent Jul 2024 #212
It Takes A Big Man To Do What President Biden Just Did DallasNE Jul 2024 #213
Thanks. Just saw this after finishing a shopping trip. Crunchy Frog Jul 2024 #214
Let's go democrats! eric eckehiphjjooort Jul 2024 #216
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #217
Amen, democracy is too important to be petty. usregimechange Jul 2024 #218
Thanks Earl G for your leadership. Biophilic Jul 2024 #220
Thank you, EarlG AmBlue Jul 2024 #222
This is the first time I have really been scared!! Dangling0826 Jul 2024 #223
This is Joe's worst decision since steventh Jul 2024 #226
Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #227
Yes We Can!! markie Jul 2024 #230
Good Job EarlG. n/t marked50 Jul 2024 #231
I always felt the real trolls TheDemsshouldhireme Jul 2024 #232
One thing to determine rrrru4ril28 Jul 2024 #237
Harris 2024 Mr. Scorpio Jul 2024 #238
My First Post!! JoetheShow Jul 2024 #241
Welcome to DU! Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #270
Welcome to DU, JoetheShow! calimary Jul 2024 #306
I'm disappointed but I will support Democrats all the way. less_engaged Jul 2024 #242
very sad...but will strongly support our next one DooverBeliever Jul 2024 #243
Who would be DownriverDem Jul 2024 #246
Thank you, Earl! maspaha Jul 2024 #248
Biden is old but his mind is still with us. Afrocat Jul 2024 #249
And too much of something else Lulu KC Jul 2024 #260
Heartbroken wordstroken Jul 2024 #251
Everything you said wordstroken FullySupportDems Jul 2024 #255
You might want to expand that to include Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #252
Thanks for your heartfelt message EarlG B.See Jul 2024 #254
EarlG, you run a nice tight ship. I see no problem. 634-5789 Jul 2024 #257
Thanks EarlG. Seems like a pretty sane decision. Not everyone will be happy. SupportSanity Jul 2024 #261
Hear, hear. minstrel76 Jul 2024 #262
I'm disappointed but there's no time to do anything but unite behind Kamala redqueen Jul 2024 #269
I SENT IN 250 DOLLARS TO KAMALA HARRIS CAMPAIGN YoshidaYui Jul 2024 #271
Let's not forget what's at stake NoNameGranny Jul 2024 #272
Many of us feel bad samplegirl Jul 2024 #274
Understood. joanbarnes Jul 2024 #275
Agree 100% with this position. SayItLoud Jul 2024 #277
So... Not so democratic underground, then? rwild1967 Jul 2024 #278
Could we please have at least one Dem debate before the convention??? snot Jul 2024 #281
Just heard one of the talking heads say TheDemsshouldhireme Jul 2024 #282
Kick BlueWavePsych Jul 2024 #283
Well expressed and AGREE 100+ percent recovering_democrat Jul 2024 #284
DU is an oasis of sanity. I appreciate the well-considered rules and guidelines that are in place to safeguard rational Martin68 Jul 2024 #288
My first post on DU (been following since 2003-2004ish) Dem4life1970 Jul 2024 #290
Welcome! TwilightZone Jul 2024 #293
Thank you! I have loved this group for 2 decades! Dem4life1970 Jul 2024 #325
I am donating to Harris ASAP Playingmantis Jul 2024 #292
DU needs to unite behind V.P. Harris! GoreWon2000 Jul 2024 #294
HARRIS 2024! God Bless America ......LET'S GO DEMOCRACY!!!! prodigitalson Jul 2024 #295
I donated and voted for Biden - now they are kicking him aside! hard2figure Jul 2024 #308
An 800 pound gorilla is what is about to crawl up a certain orange asshole and start to kicking prodigitalson Jul 2024 #312
Go Kamala! The public perceptions about Joe's age were insurmountable. Beakybird Jul 2024 #297
i love President Biden and Kamala Harris - the future President if we work hard to get her there samsingh Jul 2024 #298
UNITY NOW Generic Other Jul 2024 #299
This will likely last until Wednesday afternoon wyldwolf Jul 2024 #300
Great post and well stated. Magnanimous of you to grant amnesty. NT akbacchus_BC Jul 2024 #301
I am greatly relieved randr Jul 2024 #304
Thank EarlG bdamomma Jul 2024 #305
700+ recs has to be a record. Renew Deal Jul 2024 #307
I'd like that amnesty. Bucky Jul 2024 #309
I'm all in for the Democratic candidate Karma13612 Jul 2024 #314
WHO is that candidate supposed to be??? hard2figure Jul 2024 #321
I'm for whoever the nominee is. Hanzzy72 Jul 2024 #322
Sad about Joe, happy about Kamala Buzz cook Jul 2024 #323
The presumptive nominee is now Kamala Harris. You might want to edit the OP. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #324
Biden is out. Let me tell you what is going to happen next on DU. anilcnair Sep 17 #326

blm

(113,756 posts)
33. Specifically the AI and crypto bros.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:23 PM
Jul 2024

Cuban, Spielberg, Bloomberg, and some others have been all in with Joe. Cuban warned us about those creeps.

Response to ZonkerHarris (Reply #2)

AleksS

(1,694 posts)
118. Yup.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:47 PM
Jul 2024

Every single second of airtime, every cent of money, every word out of a politician's mouth that was wasted calling for Biden to resign could have been used instead to support him, and we would be miles ahead, instead of in this shitty shitty, and profoundly damaging situation.

If Trump wins, I hope they're f***king happy.

ElleMac

(6 posts)
180. Eyes on the Prize
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:23 PM
Jul 2024

I don't like what happened anymore than you do. But if we waste even more time criticizing what is already done, we give the Republican's what they want. Right now we need to stay focused on our common cause. Defeating the Republicans. #EyesOnThePrize

RandomNumbers

(18,111 posts)
250. +infinity
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 04:31 PM
Jul 2024

I am sick, disgusted, and feeling betrayed by the string-pullers of the Democratic party. Fuck them. They get my vote in general elections because that's how our system works, and the other party is literally repugnant. But I cannot WAIT to replace them at the next primary election opportunity.

CentralMass

(15,456 posts)
148. I think George Clooney was pissed that his wife didn't get "honored" for her work on a panel awhile back.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:02 PM
Jul 2024

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
318. That seems speculative
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 02:13 PM
Jul 2024

I'm assuming that everyone on all Democratic sides was speaking and acting in good faith, based on what each person judged to be the best course for the party and the country.

I trust Democrats, even the richies. Unless given evidence to the contrary, I'm content assuming only best intentions from any of the players on our side

I'm not blind to heterodox motives, even intraparty feuds, that our family groups break up into. But until I see evidence, for me, any Dems openly doubting other Dems gets too close to McCarthyism for my comfort.

markodochartaigh

(1,909 posts)
202. I'm focusing my wrath on the billionaires,
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:59 PM
Jul 2024

and the millionaires, and the hoi-polloi who would help an authoritarian Strong Leader take our democracy.

DFab420

(2,951 posts)
3. I agree with everything except the amensty. Just because the got the outcome they wanted doesn't mean they weren't
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:18 PM
Jul 2024

breaking the rules.

NYC Liberal

(20,330 posts)
4. Thank you, EarlG
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:18 PM
Jul 2024

I am upset. I’m angry.

But ultimately we’ve got to stay united. Whoever our candidate is, they need our 100% support.

True Dough

(19,958 posts)
7. Wise move, Earl!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:18 PM
Jul 2024

I hope to see some spirited discussion but far less of the "we are doomed" crowd. They're not helping anything or anybody (other than possibly the ReThugs).

totodeinhere

(13,250 posts)
70. I understand your emotion. Myself, I am heartbroken.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:31 PM
Jul 2024

But we still have to win this election. We need to do more than just vote if we are going to defeat TFG and we must defeat him.

luvtheGWN

(1,343 posts)
75. The rest of the democratic world is counting on You
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:32 PM
Jul 2024

Frankly begging you to do much more than just vote, no matter who the candidate turns out to be..

chowder66

(9,781 posts)
93. I'm going to vote but I'm also going to be doing a lot more than that.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:39 PM
Jul 2024

I'm going to push my reps hard on wealth equity, outsized influence and federal subsidies going to the wealthiest.

Susan Calvin

(2,024 posts)
53. That's how I feel too.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:27 PM
Jul 2024

I am still going to do my best imitation of enthusiasm, in money and in deed.

Colorado Liberal

(152 posts)
77. Same here
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:33 PM
Jul 2024

Both in voting and in feeling hopeless. My wife is in tears, and you know what I can't say to her: "It'll be okay. The people in charge of the Democratic party know what they're doing. They won't let Trump win." I don't see anything remotely resembling a plan right now.

soldierant

(7,787 posts)
151. I'm also in tears
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:02 PM
Jul 2024

Of course I"ll vote for whoever it is. But all the energy just drained out of me. I need to take a week off.

Trueblue1968

(17,938 posts)
106. Hopeless ???? Oh please. Buck up, it is cheerleader in me... Get strong,, dont cry
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:44 PM
Jul 2024

We gotta FIGHT!!!!!!!!!

Siwsan

(27,239 posts)
127. I'm just so emotionally exhausted from so much loss, over the past month, actually
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:50 PM
Jul 2024

Three feral kittens I fought so hard to save, but lost them all. And now my sweet Sian has joined them. I haven't really slept much for several weeks, dealing that crisis, so this happening has me just about at my breaking point.

I've taken my 'emergency' anxiety medication. Hopefully it will help.

COL Mustard

(6,818 posts)
239. Hang in there, Siwsan....
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:57 PM
Jul 2024

You do so much for others and the defenseless...make sure you do for yourself! We need you here.

Trueblue1968

(17,938 posts)
289. I know what a wonderful person you Are. Cat lover. Hubby cared for feral cats too.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:51 PM
Jul 2024

All of our cats are rescued cats.no did not mean to be cross at you Siwsan.

So sorry for your loss. Your fire babies are true in Cat Heaven now.



luvallpeeps

(1,064 posts)
225. It's okay to cry!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:38 PM
Jul 2024

Get it out. I don’t like the way he was treated, and after he’s done so much for us he deserves better. Cry it out, then get up and fight.

sop

(11,078 posts)
121. I don't care who the Democratic candidate is, nothing will keep me from voting straight "D" in November.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:48 PM
Jul 2024

10 Turtle Day

(399 posts)
155. And me as well
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:09 PM
Jul 2024

Straight D ballot, no matter who our nominee for prez is.

Right now I am in tears. President Biden was the best president in my lifetime. But I will support his decision, however sad I am now, and our nominee.

OrwellwasRight

(5,209 posts)
296. The best president in my lifetime by a long shot!!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 11:09 PM
Jul 2024

Whoever is second is not even close. But it is probably the right decision in the end. We must support the ticket at all costs, but I do hope they in turn support us, the working classes. We must demand no backwards steps on labor and antitrust and more progressive fiscal policies.

Unity now!!!

Glorfindel

(9,903 posts)
178. That's exactly how I feel.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:22 PM
Jul 2024

I have never voted for a rePuke in my life, and I'm not about to start now.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
310. Don't worry. You'll become excited about Harris the more you hear from her
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 12:44 PM
Jul 2024

They'll try to tear her down for being a woman, just like they did Hillary. It won't work this time.

They got nothing but a tired gimmick, a long record of failures, a fist full of dishonest gripes, and corrupt couple of bootlickers at the top of the ticket. We're gonna repeat, and maybe even beat, our 2020 performance.

Siwsan

(27,239 posts)
315. I've always supported her. In fact, before Joe entered the race, she was #1 for me
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 01:51 PM
Jul 2024

I just always knew that Joe would be the most amazing President, and I was right. When he selected her as VP, it was perfection.

Maybe after I come to terms with everything else that's happened I'll feel less like hiding beneath my bed. As it is, I'm still grieving my poor Sian and it's hard to be optimistic about much of anything.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
316. I've got boodles of optimism. You can borrow some of mine when you're ready
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 02:01 PM
Jul 2024
"Winners always want the ball when the game is on the line."
. -- Gene Hackman, The Replacements

Siwsan

(27,239 posts)
317. Thanks. I'm just going through a very rough patch
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 02:11 PM
Jul 2024

Topping everything else off, someone in the family kind of turned on me, at my most vulnerable moment, so every time I start to heal, something happens to smack me down, again. My kidcats haven't let me out of their sight, all day.

I see my therapist on Wednesday. Poor guy. Every time I have an appointment it is right after something awful has happened. I think he puts out extra boxes of tissues, just before my appointments.

Maybe if I eat something, I'll feel better.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
311. You ARE important. You DO matter.
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 12:50 PM
Jul 2024

We're a family. We disagree inside the house. Then we go outside to fuck up the Republican bootlickers and fight together as one.

I promise you, you'll feel great when we put Kamala in the White House. We'll heal together when we start to help America heal from the trauma of MAGAism. That's our job and our mission.

Silent Type

(6,145 posts)
13. Absolutely. Appreciate you guiding DU all these years, and especially the past few unprecedented months.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:19 PM
Jul 2024

JohnSJ

(95,974 posts)
14. I am disappointed, but I am also well aware that we must NOW unite behind whoever that nominee is. While I assume it
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:19 PM
Jul 2024

will be VP Harris, I am not going to debate who it should or should not be. Let's see who the choices are.

LetMyPeopleVote

(153,851 posts)
15. This is going to be a shit show
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:19 PM
Jul 2024


My fellow Democrats, I have decided not to accept the nomination and to focus all my energies on my duties as President for the remainder of my term. My very first decision as the party nominee in 2020 was to pick Kamala Harris as my Vice President. And it’s been the best decision I’ve made. Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats — it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this.

RandomNumbers

(18,111 posts)
265. Yes it will be, and it has been. And it didn't need to be.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 05:48 PM
Jul 2024

I will of course vote straight D in November - there hasn't been any other remotely reasonable choice in my district in a very, very long time.

But I am disgusted about how this was handled. I really, really wish we could get on with fixing the voting system in this country so that people like me could feel like we even have a little bit of a say in anything. Some "democracy" we have here.

roscoeroscoe

(1,582 posts)
287. Beg to Differ
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:42 PM
Jul 2024

Thanks Debbie Downer, Eeyore... Mr/Mrs. Got it all Figured out Already

No chance, yeah? I'm happy to see a new generation taking the captain's chair. Go Harris!

Doc Sportello

(7,957 posts)
17. People have a right to be mad
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:19 PM
Jul 2024

But now it is all about electing Kamala Harris as our next President and saving our democracy.

HighFired49

(378 posts)
167. It's time
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:15 PM
Jul 2024

Time to break out my old "Kamala for President" t-shirt!!! (Yes, I voted to Biden when that didn't happen.)

Response to LiberaBlueDem (Reply #21)

quaint

(3,464 posts)
152. I doubt he will be a candidate. If he pushes Kamala out, I will be upset.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:04 PM
Jul 2024

What is he doing that makes you say he can't run his own state?

Tikki

(14,791 posts)
224. Charismatic is not an action word..
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:35 PM
Jul 2024

Our State Democratic leaders have always been active in making the changes and keeping the good that
makes our State healthy.
I do understand that all regions of our Nation have their issues that need to be constantly dealt with towards resolving.
Most Californians are aware of California’s needed changes.
Our State’s diversity is an asset. Coming into contact, meeting and talking to everyone around you makes ideas come to life.
Sometimes change happens in the grassroots and then become plans that are legislated into laws.

The Tikkis

Tikki

(14,791 posts)
177. We are Extremely happy with Gavin Newsom as Governor of California..
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:22 PM
Jul 2024

And we were Extremely Happy with Kamala Harris as our States Attorney General and as a Senator and now as our Vice President.

Our lives feel progressive here….an awesome feeling that makes us want more progressive plans coming our way.

The Tikkis
P.S. abtw..Our electricity has been on all Summer.

Music Man

(1,568 posts)
25. Well said.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:21 PM
Jul 2024

Great ideas and good clarifications on things going forward.

All hands on deck, indeed. We have no choice but to win.

COL Mustard

(6,818 posts)
26. I have the greatest respect for President Biden
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:21 PM
Jul 2024

I know this was a very hard decision for him and his family to make. Now I guarantee you that I’ll vote for whoever is at the top of the Democratic ticket in November, even if I wouldn’t have supported that person before. It’s that important to me that we all unite and defeat Trump.

Edited to add: I hope I’ll be included in the amnesty offer.

bluestarone

(18,033 posts)
30. A TRUE Democrat would NEVER allow TFG return to the White House
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:22 PM
Jul 2024

I LOVE Joe Biden. It's his choice, and i support that 100% I WILL vote for whomever the nominee is!! LET'S get this DONE!!!

oldsoftie

(13,503 posts)
235. A true AMERICAN wouldnt want Trump to return to the WH.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:53 PM
Jul 2024

A true Patriot
A true supporter of freedom
supporter of democracy
supporter of women rights
Etc!

AverageOldGuy

(1,957 posts)
31. In my home, we are ready to roll
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:22 PM
Jul 2024

And I mean WE ARE READY TO ROLL.

We have been ridin' with Biden, and now we will ride with whomever is in the driver's seat!!!



thinkingagain

(976 posts)
186. I too, was riding with Biden
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:32 PM
Jul 2024

But I am trying to look at this as we’re all on a democracy bus and sometimes in long rides you need to change drivers.
Let’s go Kamala.

barbtries

(29,684 posts)
32. i didn't know this happened.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:22 PM
Jul 2024

my stomach dropped, i feel weak. i think my heart is broken.

Harris. At least the people voted for her. i don't get why our country has to go down in flames like this.

yes, i'm pretty sure my heart is broken.

Tadpole Raisin

(1,379 posts)
35. Very fair and though I am so sad I will NOT let media
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:23 PM
Jul 2024

or republicans bring the USA down. It’s more important than ever to fight the good fight.

We will do it for Biden.

We will do it for the country.

Response to EarlG (Original post)

spooky3

(35,961 posts)
131. Bigtree, your voice is sorely needed. Please take whatever break you
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:51 PM
Jul 2024

want but please come back.

bluesbassman

(19,777 posts)
37. I'll do everything I can to get a Democrat elected in November,
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:23 PM
Jul 2024

but I’m never going to forget how we got here. No I won’t. 😡

markpkessinger

(8,550 posts)
132. People are entitled tol experience and to fully express their emotions right now . . .
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:52 PM
Jul 2024

The news is still fresh, and for some of us, quite raw. If several days from now people are still wallowing, then it might be appropriate to say, "This is no time for crying," but not now@

33taw

(2,723 posts)
40. I am sad for Joe Biden, but we must carry on. This election is too critical. Vote blue no matter who!!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:24 PM
Jul 2024

RandomNumbers

(18,111 posts)
266. I'm not sad for Joe, I am sad for the U.S.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 05:51 PM
Jul 2024

I feel like the road just got a lot harder.

I don't know who is pulling the strings behind the scenes but I am sure they took care of themselves - they sure as hell aren't looking out for me. And now I don't even get a vote as to the eventual nominee.

33taw

(2,723 posts)
280. I am sad for Joe Biden. He clearly is struggling with aging.conract you local delegates and voice your
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:05 PM
Jul 2024

opinion about who you want. It’s no different than if Biden had died today, we would be in the same boat.

RandomNumbers

(18,111 posts)
286. I'm "struggling with aging" too - but I can still run circles around the youngsters
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:32 PM
Jul 2024

in my field, when it comes to solving problems and knowing how to coordinate to get stuff done.

I'm tired of the ageist bullshit.

Oh by the way, if Biden had died, Kamala Harris would be POTUS, *now*.

I don't think for one second my local delegates will listen to me. If anyone who made a difference listened to me, they would have stuck by Joe Biden.

If the party doesn't nominate Harris, we will lose Black voters, I'm sure. And sadly I don't think she is a strong candidate.

dobleremolque

(891 posts)
41. I'm still addressing my GOTV postcards to newly registered Democrats and No Party Declareds.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:24 PM
Jul 2024

Only, I think I'll modify them with this graphic.....



Sigh. Better than doing nothing.

Sparkly

(24,309 posts)
42. President Biden has endorsed Vice President Harris
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:24 PM
Jul 2024

I'm concerned that things might get contentious before and during the convention in ways that would weaken her candidacy and the party.

If it's "primary season" again, is she open to attacks? Is the door open for people to suggest everybody and their uncles as better alternatives because "she can't win" (supposedly)?

Would really be nice to have some unity -- even if everyone isn't happy, at least so that it doesn't get ugly.

Polybius

(17,312 posts)
176. Disagree
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:19 PM
Jul 2024

We have a right to support any Democrat that we wish before the Convention. After, of course, we must unite.

catchnrelease

(2,004 posts)
208. As far as attacking Harris
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:08 PM
Jul 2024

It was at least a month ago that I saw comments coming from the right, saying she isn't eligible because she's not really a citizen. Because her parents were not born in this country. HELLO--she was born in Oakland, CA! So they were trying to push the 'birther' bs again. People that are ignorant of the laws pertaining to eligibility will fall for this crap again.

Escurumbele

(3,584 posts)
50. I understand but I don't agree with people not being able to say if, because of Biden not being on the race,
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:27 PM
Jul 2024

that they will not support the new nominee. I think we should be able to know how people feel, how people are thinking in order to have a sense for how this election will shape out. By not allowing people to present their opinion we all suffer from lack of information, I for one want to know how our fellow Democrats are thinking, information is power.

I know that I personally will support any Democrat who becomes the nominee, there is not even the slightest doubt in my mind, but we don't know, and because of the rule, we may never know how other Democrats will react to this awful news.

I am hoping everyone supports whomever becomes the nominee, but I also want to know who isn't, and why.

mchill

(1,072 posts)
256. I always supported this decision, was not aware of these
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 04:58 PM
Jul 2024

DU rules, but now understand why I felt like I was a minority of one and just avoided coming here for awhile. I think Biden is one of the best Presidents of my long life and admire him for making this decision.

mchill

(1,072 posts)
258. I didn't realize I was replying to you in my previous comment, but
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 05:00 PM
Jul 2024

I totally agree with your sentiment.

nolabear

(43,115 posts)
54. EarlG for President!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:27 PM
Jul 2024

No, really, thank you so much for your levelheaded leadership here. What a world…

DonCoquixote

(13,665 posts)
55. the only thing certain people deserve
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:28 PM
Jul 2024

is 30 pieces of silver.

and while I cannot name name, a lot of the people who stabbed Biden in the back are themselves old.

totodeinhere

(13,250 posts)
57. Thanks EarlG. I think that is a reasonable policy.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:28 PM
Jul 2024

I, as many others at DU am heartbroken. But we must move on and defeat Donald Trump. I will support whoever is nominated at the convention.

BlueKota

(3,382 posts)
68. I thought President Biden was a great President!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:31 PM
Jul 2024

I will miss him as our nominee. I will definitely vote for whomever runs as a Democrat.

Beating Trump is all that matters, like you said Earl!

dai13sy

(466 posts)
205. I thought he was a great President too
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:04 PM
Jul 2024

I would vote for President Joe again in a heartbeat but Earl was right - I have to think of our country and not just myself and President Joe has told us all what we need to do now. We need to concentrate, use our brains and find someone who can win NOW!!

Response to EarlG (Original post)

MiHale

(10,643 posts)
73. If it's a Democrat ...I'll vote for a canned ham.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:32 PM
Jul 2024

Really now is the time to stay the course listen to our President he will let the us know the plans

totodeinhere

(13,250 posts)
86. We are only human. There is a lot of emotion right now. I think it will be
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:35 PM
Jul 2024

understandable that resentment against some Democratic officials who stabbed Joe Biden in the back will be present. But we have to move past that and all get on one team to defeat the fascist.

BonnieJW

(2,497 posts)
78. Many thanks for your calm guidance
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:33 PM
Jul 2024

I completely agree. Just like in Frnace recently, everyone who loves democracy must unite to preserve our country and defeat monsters wanting to destroy all we hold dear.

AllyCat

(16,950 posts)
80. I am heartbroken.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:33 PM
Jul 2024

For our democracy, for him and his family. For women, minorities, immigrants, LGBTQIA+ Americans….

Everything.

Niagara

(9,362 posts)
129. Do you have the means to help get out the vote?
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:51 PM
Jul 2024

Phone banking or helping with postcards?


I don't have the means to move out of the country, but I have the means to help GOTV.


Elessar Zappa

(15,462 posts)
194. What sucks bad
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:43 PM
Jul 2024

is that most of the good countries don’t want people unless they’re rich or have a skill they need. So I’m out. Now there’s always Mexico but the corruption there makes our country look squeaky-clean.

ecstatic

(34,254 posts)
82. Omg! I'm just learning the news! 😮😮😮
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:35 PM
Jul 2024

This is so freaking shocking. Is he going to give a speech or what??

All hands on deck, indeed! Holy crap!

mia

(8,420 posts)
83. Thank you!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:35 PM
Jul 2024

It's onward and upward from here. With thanks and gratitude to President Biden for all he has done and continues to do for our country, may his legacy continue.

emulatorloo

(45,528 posts)
85. Appreciate the heads up. Thank you so much.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:35 PM
Jul 2024

Not happy Biden was forced out.

But as always, I’m blue no matter who.

Beck23

(123 posts)
87. Harris will carry on his policies
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:36 PM
Jul 2024

Since Harris will carry on BIden's regulatory policies, expect the tech bros to target her next.

gordianot

(15,472 posts)
90. My entire focus will be the defeat of Donald Trump by a member of the Democratic Party.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:37 PM
Jul 2024

I will donate money after the convention. I refuse to participate divisive self serving arguments.

Jarqui

(10,422 posts)
112. That has to be the focus of ALL Democrats
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:45 PM
Jul 2024

I am disappointed with the ones who spoke out against Joe.
To me, that stuff belonged behind closed doors.
But I'd still vote for all of them to keep a Republican out of office.


I'm not surprised by this because those who spoke out damaged him politically.

Joe Biden is a very good and very decent man.
He's been solid as a rock his whole political career.
I hurt for him and his family but I'm very grateful for his service.

91. My heart is in pieces
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:39 PM
Jul 2024

but I will support ANY DEMOCRAT in the race for the presidency. Our determination to get Trump OUT is now the primary objective.

"Hope begins in the dark, the stubborn hope that if you just show up and try to do the right thing, the dawn will come. You wait and watch and work: you don't give up."

Anne Lamott

samnsara

(18,262 posts)
92. i feel Joes health is paramount and I will support the Dem ticket even if its
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:39 PM
Jul 2024

Micky Mouse...however since they took away my Joe then damn well give me a ticket to get really excited about. Kamala and Gretchen!!

And Tay Tay singing at the convention and gotta work Barbie in there some where.

BarbD

(1,211 posts)
95. At the end of the day, we are all Democrats.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:40 PM
Jul 2024

Disappointed that Joe was not able to continue and unable to convince the naysayers. However, I have now taken my Kamala poster from her "For the People" campaign and hung it on the wall.
Question: Who will be Vice President on the Harris ticket?

BWdem4life

(2,413 posts)
229. That's wishful thinking
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:43 PM
Jul 2024

But at the very least, it seems to me that we the people voted for her as VP nominee so unless she also drops out (she won't) they can't remove her from the ticket completely.

Or is that also wishful thinking?

IzzaNuDay

(530 posts)
96. Thanks EarlG! No question I'm voting blue
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:41 PM
Jul 2024

This is an existential threat to our nation.
I am beyond angry!

Maru Kitteh

(28,961 posts)
98. I STILL trust Joe Biden. He made this decision so that we can WIN against that OPOS
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:41 PM
Jul 2024

Orange POS.

We must respect Joe's decision and move forward to beat that screaming piece of crap.


Lulu Latech

(29,100 posts)
101. My hope for Biden
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:43 PM
Jul 2024

My hope is that he is going to recover from this bout of Covid and that he remains well and involved In the party, and the election of whoever is nominated I’m hopeful that he will have time to enjoy His later years and provide support and knowledge to our next Democratic president

liberalla

(9,907 posts)
102. Thank you for this reminder...
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:43 PM
Jul 2024

Heartbroken... but so grateful for this wonderful man and INCREDIBLE President! I will sorely miss him!


Hekate

(94,283 posts)
103. Still in the first phase of shock. Meanwhile -- thank you for your steady hand.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:43 PM
Jul 2024

Jon Meachem just called him Cincinnatus. Oh

DFW

(56,367 posts)
105. I was hoping not to hear this news.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:44 PM
Jul 2024

But now we have to play the hand we were dealt.

So, OK, let’s play to win.

Like an old friend of mine liked to say, “nuff said!”

sanduca

(56 posts)
107. That was exactly my thought...
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:44 PM
Jul 2024

I support President Biden 100% and I'm against anyone that wanted him out. I said many times, he is the only one who should make that decision. If he did, then we can support our next nominee who should be Kamala. All the campaign money can be transferred to her campaign.
I also want to see a huge celebration honoring our beloved President Biden at the convention. That is a good way to unite the party.
He deserves respect, appreciation for all he has done for America.

Niagara

(9,362 posts)
110. I didn't see this announcement coming at all
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:45 PM
Jul 2024

I thought that after Vance's statement yesterday about Joe stepping down would have been the key to Joe taking off the gloves.



I received this from the Biden Victory Fund on July 17th, so I didn't see this announcement coming at all. Obviously I replaced my real name with my DU name and I'm not an expert 3D Paint professional at all. I'm keeping this as a souvenir.





My heart is heavy and I'm currently filled with grief. I trust Joe Biden and I always will. Thank you, Joe!

mountain grammy

(27,168 posts)
113. Thank you EarlG
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:46 PM
Jul 2024

Today I'm gonna have a good cry, a stiff drink, bake some marijuana cookies, and get ready to fight for Democrats and America... tomorrow.

totodeinhere

(13,250 posts)
150. I agree with amnesty.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:02 PM
Jul 2024

After all, those who got their posts removed for saying Joe would withdraw turned out to be right. Should they be punished for being right?

BWdem4life

(2,413 posts)
233. The posts weren't removed for predicting he would drop out
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:49 PM
Jul 2024

They were removed for suggesting he SHOULD drop out.

They were part of the undemocratic force that PUSHED him out against his will and against the wishes of the majority..

Huge difference. But nice try revising very recent history.

JustAnotherGen

(33,286 posts)
234. I'm going back to
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:50 PM
Jul 2024

2020 when a lot of my AfAm group members were harassed. For writing things like "AmeriKKKa". It was true then and it's true now - but pointing out the realities of life experienced as an American who is black is divisive.

Eh? At least a lot of the bigots are gone too.

kansasobama

(1,406 posts)
116. Voting Harris but after Nov 7th
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:47 PM
Jul 2024

I am going to send a letter with choice words for those who perpetrated this ouster. Donor class has betrayed the Party.

FakeNoose

(35,386 posts)
215. I hope by then all the names will be documented
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:22 PM
Jul 2024

We should share everything we find out so all DUers can know who they are.

lpbk2713

(43,197 posts)
117. My party, right or wrong, is still my party.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:47 PM
Jul 2024


I've always voted for the Dem pres nominee ever since JFK.

I'm not going to change now.

Ilsa

(62,190 posts)
119. You are very fair, very reasonable, and thoughtful of
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:47 PM
Jul 2024

the reality to come. Thank you for your wisdom.

ybbor

(1,599 posts)
120. Blue no matter who has to be our rallying cry!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:48 PM
Jul 2024

We must keep the White House at all costs. I support our nominee regardless of who they are. But what about all of his $? How is that used now?

TBF

(34,022 posts)
123. Thank you for being the calm in a storm -
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:49 PM
Jul 2024

I joined DU when I was doing heavy volunteering for Obama here in TX in 2008. It seemed an uphill battle (it certainly was in our state!). But this too we can overcome. Si Se Peude!

Renew Deal

(82,848 posts)
128. One of the best aspects of DU was that we can have discussions without STFU arguments...
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:50 PM
Jul 2024

Except for this week. I'm hoping that we can back away from those kinds of arguments.

Ms. Toad

(35,384 posts)
134. Thank you.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:52 PM
Jul 2024

I was hoping those unfairly (in my opinion) forced out would be welcomed back. I am glad that is your decision.

The Bopper

(252 posts)
141. I'll tell you what happens
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:59 PM
Jul 2024

Most of friends aren’t going to vote for somebody else, that’s what’s going to happen. Forcing the best President in the last 100 years out shows my Democratic voting since 1974 has been wasted. GOOD BY AND GOOD LUCK hiding from the Trump Nazis.

BWdem4life

(2,413 posts)
236. I think most of your friends will come around
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:53 PM
Jul 2024

And I hope you will too. This is awful but tRump will be a thousand times worse. Stop the bleeding first, then focus on repairing the injury.

dreamland

(972 posts)
142. No Matter What happens, TRUMP will never gain from my vote. I'll take whoever is on the DEM ticket.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 01:59 PM
Jul 2024

GO DEMS!

redstatebluegirl

(12,458 posts)
145. I will vote for the nominee.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:00 PM
Jul 2024

I will not be sending another dime to the party. Let the billionaires do it.

Trueblue Texan

(2,884 posts)
146. I am totally FUCKING devastated!!!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:00 PM
Jul 2024

I don't know how in the fucking I'll ever be able to watch any media again. FUCK YOU MSNBC!!!


I'm gone. I can't be here for a long while. Goodbye.

RussBLib

(9,649 posts)
147. Thanks, EarlG. It's a pretty exciting development.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:01 PM
Jul 2024

...we were already in the Twilight Zone. I think we've taken a turn to the Outer Limits.

The future is never certain. We are all grateful to Joe Biden and what he has done for this country. Obviously, a ton of work remains. People wanted a change to some younger leadership, well, here ya go.

I feel more calm about this than I expected.

We can still beat Trump.

https://russblib.blogspot.com

farmbo

(3,138 posts)
149. Thanks! A sound decision, promptly made.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:02 PM
Jul 2024

And I hope we’ll see an end to the postings asserting that “a handful of mega donors” engineered this behind the scenes, insinuating that the DNC is now somehow corrupted by money.
It is the GOP— not the DNC—that should be the focus of such criticism.

msfiddlestix

(7,730 posts)
154. Well Done, EarlG. I am truly impressed with and admire your leadership..
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:08 PM
Jul 2024

I too am very disappointed, but as you stated the most important thing we do is beat TSF. overwhelmingly.

I'll take my own counsel as well regarding my thoughts which are quite unsettled.

Practice and do some wood-Shedding on new music.

I'll peak-in every now then..

Elessar Zappa

(15,462 posts)
263. I'm pretty sure it will be Harris.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 05:45 PM
Jul 2024

The party seems to be coalescing around her and Biden endorsed her. Which would likely mean that his freed delegates would vote for her nomination.

MuseRider

(34,334 posts)
160. EarlG
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:11 PM
Jul 2024

You are the very best! I have always loved this forum and a good lot of being able to stay all these years is the stability you provide and your sane and calm guidence.

I always run my posts through the "will I get kicked off DU?" filter because I honestly do not know what I would do without this site to teach me, guide me, correct me, inform me and just be a large pack of pals most of the time.

Thank you for being here so we can function in all those ways.

duncang

(3,405 posts)
162. I've already been talking to my family about this.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:12 PM
Jul 2024

It’s yes I’m pissed he left the race. But we have a bigger problem if tfg wins. Whoever comes up we’ve got to support. The damage faced with a tfg presidency far outweighs hurt feelings now.

justcheckinin

(9 posts)
165. Well my heart is broken
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:14 PM
Jul 2024

We have all been working our hearts and minds with intention of supporting Biden. I do believe this has been carefully orchestrated with $$$$$$$.

God help America.

Laura

sagetea

(1,429 posts)
166. I wasn't going to come back on line,
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:15 PM
Jul 2024

but I did, only to read that Biden is out. They allowed the oligarchs to throw out our Primary votes.

I'm heart broken and very angry. Right now this is not a country for the people, by the people, and of the people. We are a country of greed. Always knew it, now it's plain to see.

Thank you Mr. G, I love this place you've created, and I probably shouldn't say anything else right now. They stole our votes, and I won't forget it.


sage

Polybius

(17,312 posts)
168. Will there be primary forums added like there were in 2016?
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:16 PM
Jul 2024

For example, let's say a Primary forum with sub-forums for Gavin, Harris, etc.?

Warpy

(113,093 posts)
169. You know they'll choose some center right, spineless nebbish nobody ever heard of
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:17 PM
Jul 2024

Describing what will happen if this occurs is not the same as promoting it. No one here wants to throw the election to TFG, which is what will happen because the anger out there at the primary process being stolen from the party's rank and file will be extreme, as it should be.

I would never try to discourage anyone from voting for a center right, spineless nebbish, we've all done it before, our noses firmly held, in the hope a far right lunatic could be defeated. However, this would be a coup, disenfranchising the people who cast primary votes. If it allowed to happen, it will likely throw the election to TFG as disgusted Democrats stay home. I don't want this to happen but it will.

This is absolutely the stupidest thing to have befallen the Democratic Party in my lifetime, worse than Koch funded conservatives running conservative southerners in a vain attempt to counter Nixon's courting of southern bigots after civil rights legislation had offended them.

That center right, spineless nebbish will likely get my vote so I can vote down ticket and against TFG. Such a person will never gain my enthusiasm.

Elessar Zappa

(15,462 posts)
264. It's going to be Kamala Harris.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 05:47 PM
Jul 2024

The party is uniting around her and Biden has endorsed her, which means his freed delegates will likely nominate her. She’s pretty liberal, so I’m not worried about center-right or anything like that.

Warpy

(113,093 posts)
273. It had better be Harris,
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:09 PM
Jul 2024

because that's the only way it's going to look like less of a hit job on the party as a whole.

3825-87867

(1,066 posts)
172. If I were the Republicans right now...
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:17 PM
Jul 2024

I might be a little concerned. Joe now is allowed to do anything he wants in an OFFICIAL capacity.
And I can think of a lot of things he might do because he really won't have to worry about S(C)ROTUS later.
GO ahead and smile Donny. Just keep looking over your shoulder...every day.

edisdead

(3,285 posts)
174. Beyond pissed and feel completely betrayed
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:19 PM
Jul 2024

There are a lot of liars about. And it seems we cannot call them out.

BurnDoubt

(56 posts)
179. Joe's opinion is the only one I accept. Kamala! Bring It. The Felon, and Kamala For The Prosecution!!! Must See TV!!!!!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:23 PM
Jul 2024

"Don't Make Me Come Down There!!"--- 100% Support Here.

ms liberty

(9,783 posts)
182. I'm not disappointed, I'm furious. The wealthy, powerful, connected and the media who love/are them
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:26 PM
Jul 2024

Have created chaos and division all on their own whims. At a time when we needed stability and continuity, they saw a vulnerability and took advantage of it.They have the power now, and does anyone really think they'll ever give it up, now that they know they can use it, win and get away with it?

I have no faith that the candidate we end up with will be OUR choice. I don't trust some process that's been created on the fly by a bunch of people with an agenda. And that's what it looks like they want.

Whatever happens, our only choice now is to vote for whoever they decide should be our candidate on the Democratic ticket in this election. They'll decide our new exciting process and the show will be presented to look as if it's all so very democratic.

But Frank Zappa was right, and the time has come. It's not profitable any longer for them to continue with the illusion. So they have taken down the scenery and they have pulled back the curtains, and now we do all see the brick wall behind the stage.

Fuck all of those people. They have homes in safe states, safe countries and the money to get there quickly. 99% of America doesn't.

Elessar Zappa

(15,462 posts)
267. The good news is that it will probably be Harris.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 05:52 PM
Jul 2024

Biden has enthusiastically endorsed her and the rest of the party seems to be uniting around her. His delegates at the convention will likely honor his wish and nominate her. Remember, the delegates aren’t rich, connected people, they’re, for the most part, regular working people who are the base of our party. They’re not going to do what the billionaires tell them to do.

New Haven

(1,072 posts)
183. Presidential elections are about SCOTUS. Get on the Harris wagon now and stay there.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:27 PM
Jul 2024

What I would like to hear now on DU, is a discussion about who would we would want to have for the SCOTUS replacements during her two terms. Harris is waving a blue flag, help her pick the replacements we sorely need.

Blue Dawn

(941 posts)
184. Thank you, EarlG.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:29 PM
Jul 2024

I am blue through and through.

I am sorry to hear the news today, but I will absolutely support our Democratic candidate.

Tree Lady

(12,166 posts)
185. I decided to take the day off politics for my mental health
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:30 PM
Jul 2024

My husband turned on the tv and it was all over every channel. All I can say is fuck fuck fuck!!!!!!

Cassidy

(207 posts)
187. Heartbroken though I am, thank you for being the voice of reason.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:33 PM
Jul 2024

It will be very difficult to support a VP who has come out publicly against President Biden. I hope one of President Biden's loyal defenders will be chosen, but I will support the Democratic ticket, regardless.

infullview

(1,038 posts)
188. I love Joe Biden and he did what he set out to do.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:33 PM
Jul 2024

He goes out with my absolute respect for doing an outstanding job. I will respect his endorsement of Kamala Harris. She’s very capable and I know she can get it done.

keithbvadu2

(39,829 posts)
189. i respect his decision and support Kamala.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:35 PM
Jul 2024

The aholes of both parties are calling for Biden to resign now.

NO!

Farmer-Rick

(11,211 posts)
197. Yeah, that's their next predictable step
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:48 PM
Jul 2024

Force Biden out of the presidency now, put Kamala in now.

Then disapprove of all of Kamala's VP appointments. Make her look weak. Force her to the right and she picks an idiot like Mitt or something.

chia

(2,353 posts)
190. A sad day. My heart's with Joe, but I'll be voting blue no matter who.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:36 PM
Jul 2024

I'm exhausted and discouraged. This nightmare since 2015 never seems to end.

Wounded Bear

(60,512 posts)
191. As disappointing and yes, maddening as Pres Biden's decision may be...
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:40 PM
Jul 2024

That is ABSOLUTELY NOT A GOOD REASON TO STAY HOME and not vote this fall.

trump must be soundly defeated and we will need all hands on deck, so to speak.



WmChris

(214 posts)
192. I'm disappointed but-
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:41 PM
Jul 2024

They could run a stray dog against the rapist, felon, lying, racist bastard and I'd vote for the dog.

LiberalArkie

(16,308 posts)
195. As usual and as I have said in the past, I trust the delegates
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:48 PM
Jul 2024

To make the correct choice. People with enough truthful information and under no pressure WILL ALWAYS MAKE THE BEST DECISION

Beacool

(30,290 posts)
196. I will vote for a rock, if it's the Democratic nominee.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:48 PM
Jul 2024

This election is far too important. Every election cycle politicians proclaim that it's "the most important election in our lifetime". This time it's true. The damage that Trump and the extreme Right would do to the country would negatively impact the U.S. for decades to come. Unfortunately, I don't see Kamala as the winner. For whatever reason, she hasn't been a popular VP with the majority of Americans. What we think as Democrats, or if this assessment is unfair, is ultimately irrelevant. I don't think that she can win most Independents. This is a sad time for the country. I see us careening into a quasi dictatorship, an authoritarian state verging on a theocracy. As the daughter of a diplomat, I lived under an authoritarian RW regime as a child. Americans don't know what is going to hit them, and how difficult it is to rebuild a democracy once it's lost. I weep for our nation.

malthaussen

(17,647 posts)
199. So, would saying I think the Democratic Party has acted dishonorably be a no-no?
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:54 PM
Jul 2024

By forcing Mr Biden to drop out -- and let's not pretend it was anything other than forced, as he went screaming the whole way -- based on what, exactly? They have acted with dishonor that is really quite breathtaking, IMO.

I suppose this election is less about personalities than policies, moreso than in many years since the policies of the opposing parties stand in such stark opposition. Most Democrats, and quite a few who are not, will be voting against DJT, the GOP, and all their works, and would do so if the Democratic candidate were a cabbage. How this will play with the genuinely "undecided" (if there are many such beasts left in the USA), I won't venture to predict. I know my limits.

No, the politics of this action interest me little, and are beyond my competence to assess. But the moral part, the ethical part, that I feel more competent to evaluate, and I am appalled that the Democratic Party have allowed a combination of money and biased Press cause them to force out an incumbent that has been one of the better Presidents, on balance, than most in the past couple of generations, and opened the door to incredible election chaos a scant four months before the election itself. How anyone could think this was a good idea for pragmatic reasons evades me, how anybody could think it was a good idea for ethical reasons eludes me as well.

-- Mal

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
200. Trump is worse than a garbage dump...He smells worse, and he is worse. .Anyone is better than Trump...I am better.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:55 PM
Jul 2024

blue-wave

(4,488 posts)
201. To say I'm thoroughly disgusted
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 02:56 PM
Jul 2024

is an understatement. Disappointed, saddened and angry too. Whatever will be, will be.

ImNotGod

(460 posts)
203. life isn't fair, elections are corrupted by big money and we all must pay taxes, it is what it is. nt
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:01 PM
Jul 2024

boston bean

(36,424 posts)
204. May be too much to ask
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:03 PM
Jul 2024

But i had hides both sort of for and against joe stepping down as i was undecided. Any chance they msay be reversed. I ask this respectfully. Understand either way. If not reversed i will just lightly post to avoid a potential ffr.

lees1975

(5,734 posts)
206. I respect his choice. I'm sure it was made with the help of his family and close friends.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:06 PM
Jul 2024

Biden has been one of the best presidents of my lifetime. Thank you so much for the sacrifices you have made for the American people.

npk

(3,701 posts)
211. Biden has endorsed Harris isn't she now the nominee
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:17 PM
Jul 2024

She would have obviously been his VP for a second term if Biden had remained in the race and won a second term himself. I would assume that Biden will just pledge all his delegates to Harris at the Convention or am I wrong?

VMA131Marine

(4,568 posts)
279. That's not how it works
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:56 PM
Jul 2024

It might make her the front runner, and Joe is showing great loyalty to his VP, but we are making another mistake if we just blindly go along with making Harris the nominee. There are other potentially strong candidates and we need to consider them.

All that said, Harris will get my vote if she ends up being the nominee.

DallasNE

(7,546 posts)
213. It Takes A Big Man To Do What President Biden Just Did
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:20 PM
Jul 2024

President Biden has been the best President of my lifetime. He was a manager type that just got things done under great odds. I will forever respect President Biden.

I am 2+ years older than Biden so I know first-hand how aging affects us and how the pace of aging speeds up once you hit that 80 mark. For that reason. I was hoping that President Biden would make this decision a year ago so we could have a normal process for replacement rather than what we face now. It is what it is so we move forward. I will not only support who emerges as the nominee but will also make a donation to that campaign following the convention in Chicago.

Crunchy Frog

(26,892 posts)
214. Thanks. Just saw this after finishing a shopping trip.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:21 PM
Jul 2024

I'm angry and I'm scared, but there's also some relief that we're leaving that state of uncertainty and limbo.

Whatever I may be feeling, I will vote for whichever Democrat is on the ballot.

Response to EarlG (Original post)

Biophilic

(4,615 posts)
220. Thanks Earl G for your leadership.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:31 PM
Jul 2024

I'm numb and deeply sad at the same time. I feel like I've lost an important part of my life. Of course I will vote blue this fall. I just feel this has made some irrevocable changes to both our party and the country. Whatever happens next things won't be the same.

Dangling0826

(2 posts)
223. This is the first time I have really been scared!!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:35 PM
Jul 2024

I think Biden could have won against Trump hands down. I am scared, there is sexism in the country I just don't know if Harris can overcome that. I will vote blue no matter who!!

steventh

(2,156 posts)
226. This is Joe's worst decision since
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:38 PM
Jul 2024

he did not allow additional witness Angela Wright to bolster Anita Hill's testimony at Clarence Thomas' Senate hearing. I was angry at him then. I'm heartsick now.

Response to EarlG (Original post)

232. I always felt the real trolls
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:49 PM
Jul 2024

were easy to spot by the random capitalization of a word or two, conservatives can't help it, it's in their dna. See i shouted, you can't argue with what I wrote because it's in capitals. Too easy to spot.

rrrru4ril28

(7 posts)
237. One thing to determine
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:54 PM
Jul 2024

Since we are likely going to go to the Convention, we need to determine how many states have a shot at not listing the Democratic nominee on the ballot. Once that is done, we need to get Trump convicted on more crimes and expose any videos we can. I posted live videos showing Republican testifying against Trump, same if there are videos showing Fox, OAN and Newmax clearly lying. These need to be posted on media websites not controlled by right wing leading media as they will remove it. Basically, local newspaper websites are what is left.

JoetheShow

(88 posts)
241. My First Post!!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 04:03 PM
Jul 2024

My first post and it's on such a bad day. Like most of you, I was strongly against the President stepping down. I was disgusted and dismayed at the politicians who publicly called on him to step down. It's okay to send messages and have discussions behind closed doors but it only weakens the party to air the dirty laundry. I've lost a great deal of respect for so many it's disheartening.

My scorn and contempt for the news media hasn't been this bad since they aided and abetted GWB in lying us into a pointless and stupid war in Iraq. The pass they continue to give to former President Felon is malfeasance on a grand scale. I laugh that those on the right who don't believe anything from the MSM but believe everything they find on Faux News or Facebook that supports their stupidity and hate. It's hard to believe we inhabit the same country.

Thank you for to EarlG and all here who have made this a haven of sanity in an insane time. I've been a long time lurker so it will be good to interact with other like minded folk

calimary

(83,997 posts)
306. Welcome to DU, JoetheShow!
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 11:04 AM
Jul 2024

Glad to see you weigh in!

This is quite a “morning after”, isn’t it!

But if it’s Kamala, then I’m a Kamala girl. Besides, I happen to like her anyway!



And frankly, we’re just waking up and haven’t started plugging in yet, so for all I know, Republicans could have set up a side White House of their own (since they’ve had a hard time winning this one) and installed Bozo the Clown in their “Oval Office”.

DooverBeliever

(14 posts)
243. very sad...but will strongly support our next one
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 04:14 PM
Jul 2024

It is very sad to lose Biden. I was comforted knowing he was in office with all his experience plus his ability to surround himself with the smartest folks (not yes men). I am soooo thankful for what he has done for us, for the country, the working class...he is one helluva Pres.

I will strongly support our next candidate -- who ever that may be. All my friends will too.

We got this! We can do this.

maspaha

(372 posts)
248. Thank you, Earl!
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 04:25 PM
Jul 2024

As a newer member, I greatly appreciate your explanation. We are all passionate about our politics, however, there is a time when we MUST “fall in line”, whether we’re happy or not, for the sake of preserving Democracy.

Afrocat

(2,782 posts)
249. Biden is old but his mind is still with us.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 04:27 PM
Jul 2024

Trump is old and his fucking mind is rerouting, and splicing, around what ever is left of his diseased brain like the wiring of a Pinto that's been sunk in a lake. All The get out now people are craven dogs and Russian psy-op drinking momos. *looks at watch* We have about 15 minutes before they start in on Harris for not being enough of something or another.

Lulu KC

(3,728 posts)
260. And too much of something else
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 05:06 PM
Jul 2024

Those bastards. But I'm ready to tune them out and look forward to all she can do. She will have a great advisor in Joe.

wordstroken

(644 posts)
251. Heartbroken
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 04:32 PM
Jul 2024

Love you, President Joe Biden. ❤️
Thank you for all you have done for our country.
Time to support Kamala and her VP, and to keep Joe’s legacy — and democracy — alive.

FullySupportDems

(148 posts)
255. Everything you said wordstroken
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 04:57 PM
Jul 2024

You said it perfectly for me.
It was so painful not being able to read what you all thought todsy, I lurk no more. Thank you DU, please be there forever

Voltaire2

(14,631 posts)
252. You might want to expand that to include
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 04:36 PM
Jul 2024

all of the post hides during that period.

Just discussing the reasons why people were urging Biden to withdraw was frequently deemed a rule violation.

I also urge everyone to not lose focus on the objective. The presidency is the objective, which specific person we select is not to run is not.

B.See

(3,313 posts)
254. Thanks for your heartfelt message EarlG
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 04:51 PM
Jul 2024

Just learning of these developments and I feel as you do. I feel for Joe, a great man and a great President, and I'm praying for our country, and for the world.

SupportSanity

(1,016 posts)
261. Thanks EarlG. Seems like a pretty sane decision. Not everyone will be happy.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 05:09 PM
Jul 2024

But that is to be expected.

Supporting Sanity, one sane decision at a time.

NoNameGranny

(8 posts)
272. Let's not forget what's at stake
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:08 PM
Jul 2024

OK, so I first need to get this off my chest. I really despise how the media continued their 2016 position that fanned the “crooked Hillary” flames (all under the guise of journalistic reporting). Their incessant focus on how poorly Joe Biden performed in that first debate as somehow indicative of a physical or neurological disorder is appalling. Now they have achieved their goal of pushing Joe Biden out. Are they trying to hand the upcoming election to a convicted felon?

Now, let me shift to a more positive, focused approach. Now that Joe has made his decision (which I, reluctantly, honor and accept), our path is clear - whether or not you are a Harris supporter, we cannot stand back and hand over our country, our democracy, to a convicted felon who is consistent in his disdain for women, the military, the rule of law, and the Constitution. Our democracy is at risk right now, and it is extremely fragile. So many have sipped the kool aid, and believe the lies spewed by Republicans and DJT, without hesitation or any attempt to fact check. Racism never really died, but there has been a resurgence of overt racism and I fear it will continue to play out, and escalate, during the next few months leading up to the general election. My hope is that the majority of Americans will take a step back, actively listen to the lies spewed by Republicans, and take a moment to really think about what America will be like for our children and grandchildren if DJT is elected, and Project 2025 is implemented.

I will continue to support the Democratic Party, and vote for the Democratic nominee. Our fragile democracy is at stake. My vote may only be one of many, but I choose to believe that my one vote will count for saving our democracy and preserving our Constitution.

samplegirl

(12,011 posts)
274. Many of us feel bad
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:23 PM
Jul 2024

I'm one of them. The gloves are off now. We must quickly move on as we don't have a lot of time. We can't be arguing about Biden on here. We must get behind our candidate and work like how flood, social media and whatever else we have to do. We can't allow Trump back in.

SayItLoud

(1,727 posts)
277. Agree 100% with this position.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 06:31 PM
Jul 2024

I too am going to donate as if my life, your life, our country depended on it....because it does.

snot

(10,660 posts)
281. Could we please have at least one Dem debate before the convention???
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:09 PM
Jul 2024

I realize time is short, but it shouldn't be impossible; and I feel we really need it in order to inform delegate voting, even if it's too late for another primary vote.

ALSO, I hope this whole experience convinces the DNC to do both of the following:

Always HAVE debates, and

Have "instant run-off" primary voting.


282. Just heard one of the talking heads say
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:15 PM
Jul 2024

the senator who most closely voted with Bernie Sanders was Kamala Harris. She is no blue dog. Its not like Harris is going to turn into some supply sider, it's why I dont buy this; the billionaires wanted Joe out because of taxes or some crypto guys. I dont see what tax policy would change with support for Harris.

284. Well expressed and AGREE 100+ percent
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:29 PM
Jul 2024

no questions, no problems. THIS is the choice of the current President, and the acceptance of his recommendation of the current Vice President as expressed completely.

Will support their action and recommendations and will follow accordingly. I am seriously overcome with related medical expense recently, and am not able to do lots of money support. I will spend any dime I can afford to support the upcoming Democratic candidates enthusiastically and as much as possible. Awesome American US Citizens. Thank you.

Martin68

(24,419 posts)
288. DU is an oasis of sanity. I appreciate the well-considered rules and guidelines that are in place to safeguard rational
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 07:45 PM
Jul 2024

discourse. I will do my best to abide by them.

Dem4life1970

(365 posts)
290. My first post on DU (been following since 2003-2004ish)
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 08:01 PM
Jul 2024

I am a lifelong Democrat and I have been following DU since George Bush the appointed was President. I have loved this forum and over the years have debated whether or not I should join. I voted for Biden in the '88 Democratic Primary, for Gore in 2000, Kerry in 2004, Obama twice, Hillary once, and Biden once for President. I also agreed that Pres. Biden should stay in the race for many reasons, esp. due to Allan Lichtman's keys. That said, he has once again put country ahead of himself and made his choice. I was an enthusiastic supporter of Pres. Biden and am now an enthusiastic supper of VP Harris. Vote Blue no matter who! We have to stop Orange Julius Caesar from ever coming anywhere near the White House. Let's unite!

Playingmantis

(277 posts)
292. I am donating to Harris ASAP
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 08:14 PM
Jul 2024

Harris was a prosecutor who prosecuted sex offenders.. TRUMP IS A SEX OFFENDER..and she should say that during the debate..

I love Joe for so many reasons...and now..realizing that Father Time is catching up with him...has done what is best..allowing a younger person to run with the ball... Has the Orange Cockroach ever put the nation above himself? Think of how he killed the border bill for his own selfish reasons..and the scum GOP went right along..

And just compare the way Joe Biden spoke of Trump after the assassination attempt and compare that to the classless, clueless way Trump reacted to Biden's withdrawal.... Filled with the usual venom and hate..


Now I want Harris to tear Trump to pieces and end this national nightmare

Vote Blue 100% Democracy depends on it!!

hard2figure

(5 posts)
308. I donated and voted for Biden - now they are kicking him aside!
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 12:17 PM
Jul 2024

I NEVER would have voted for Kamala, let alone give her money! I feel like I have been screwed by an 800 lb gorilla!!

prodigitalson

(2,825 posts)
312. An 800 pound gorilla is what is about to crawl up a certain orange asshole and start to kicking
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 12:59 PM
Jul 2024

will you be joining us?

Beakybird

(3,389 posts)
297. Go Kamala! The public perceptions about Joe's age were insurmountable.
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 11:36 PM
Jul 2024

Kamala will save democracy. Let's help her.

wyldwolf

(43,891 posts)
300. This will likely last until Wednesday afternoon
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 03:10 AM
Jul 2024

That's when Harris will secure enough delegates to be the presumptive nominee.

randr

(12,462 posts)
304. I am greatly relieved
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 08:33 AM
Jul 2024

I have often noted that there is a large hole in America at the present time. Both parties have a sense that things are not right. I strongly feel that we democrats and the Biden administration have held together what would have fallen apart if tfg had won the last election.
Regardless, the distrust of the whole system remains with both sides trying to define the large elephant in the room.
We now have the opportunity to embark on a new mission to more clearly define what the problems are and to present solutions to each and every one.
I believe it is our task to unite behind the future of this Great Country and show the world what it takes to secure a democracy and insure all human rights are respected.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
309. I'd like that amnesty.
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 12:39 PM
Jul 2024

I actually avoided the phrase "Biden should step down." But I got a couple of strikes for making observations about his communication skills that made other DUers uncomfortable. One post included the word "teleprompter" which was understandably triggering, but entirely factual.

I don't regret any of that. I expressed my concerns about a not-yet-nominated Democrat because I was anxious about losing to a fascist.

I'm less worried now. I'm excited and eager to fight it out with the so-called Republicans (they're actually more like a monarchist cult now), but I understand if some DUers who opposed Biden's withdrawal are sore.

Ultimately, I think I'm a little more tolerant of dissent within this forum than the average DUer.. I think an open expression of ideas & concerns makes a democratic AND a Democratic culture stronger.

I'm 100% for Kamala now. But I'm glad to discuss with any who have other ideas.

Karma13612

(4,668 posts)
314. I'm all in for the Democratic candidate
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 01:25 PM
Jul 2024

Along with the person that they decide is best as VP.

While paying my bills this morning, I also made my first political donation for quite some time.
I’m on Team Harris!
And although there are many greats to choose from, I’m liking Mark Kelly a LOT as VEEP.

I feel so much happier today!

We are going to kick TFG’S butt from here to Pluto! ( note the planetary reference in honor of Mark Kelly being an astronaut and all. )


hard2figure

(5 posts)
321. WHO is that candidate supposed to be???
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 04:02 PM
Jul 2024

It is very unclear at this point who that is. You say Harris, but that has NOT been voted on by the delegates. Remember, the delegates elect the nominee, not Biden, Hilary, or MSNBC.

Hanzzy72

(52 posts)
322. I'm for whoever the nominee is.
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 04:05 PM
Jul 2024

With that said, I've made my first political donation ever today and I donated to Kamala Harris. Biden endorsed her and right now I'm convinced that we need a fighter to push back against Donald Trump and MAGA. I believe her to be the right person for the job.

Buzz cook

(2,575 posts)
323. Sad about Joe, happy about Kamala
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 04:24 PM
Jul 2024

I think Joe was forced out by the media.
Until I read positive proof that he was mentally unfit, that's what I'll believe.

That being said Kamala Harris will be both a fine candidate and when she wins a fine president.
I've already donated to her campaign and it looks like I'm just one of a multitude.

 

anilcnair

(11 posts)
326. Biden is out. Let me tell you what is going to happen next on DU.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 11:55 PM
Sep 17

It sounds like you're diving into some political predictions! If you want to share your thoughts on what’s next for the Democratic Party or any specific developments, I’m all ears. What are you expecting to see?



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