Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 01:59 PM Apr 2014

Seven-person juries go into effect today.

This discussion thread was locked by Skinner (a host of the Announcements group).

By popular demand, we have increased the number of jurors to evaluate community standards alerts from six to seven.

This is a fairly large technical change, and there are likely to be a few glitches. If you encounter any issues that you think the DU Admins need to be aware of, please post them in this thread.

Thank you for your understanding.

Skinner
DU Admin

82 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Seven-person juries go into effect today. (Original Post) Skinner Apr 2014 OP
I hope it works out. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #1
Cool. Agschmid Apr 2014 #2
that's what I always do. if I can't come to a decision I'd be glad to put my name to, I opt out. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #31
I thought we always get the results..? Cha Apr 2014 #44
I did eventually get them, someone was dragging their feet. Agschmid Apr 2014 #45
This time it wasn't me, but other times it is. Jim Lane Apr 2014 #64
Cultivating away... Agschmid Apr 2014 #67
Well that eliminates the issue of ties. HereSince1628 Apr 2014 #3
Thanks. I think this is a good thing. n/t TDale313 Apr 2014 #4
The famous juror #3 will now get replaced with 7! darkangel218 Apr 2014 #5
I just served on a jury. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #6
hah..me too! one_voice Apr 2014 #8
I was juror # 4. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #11
lol..I was juror 1. one_voice Apr 2014 #12
And "LLP" must have been La Lioness Priyanka. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #13
I bet he does. one_voice Apr 2014 #16
Unreal that someone would alert that, even as a joke. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #18
oh i think it's hilarious! BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #32
I so agree. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #47
Me too. mountain grammy Apr 2014 #62
ROFL! Confess!!!! grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #63
or we will BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #72
DUzy! Alerting on a Skinner op. Where's MIRT? L0oniX Apr 2014 #68
LOL, I'm on MIRT! greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #71
yeh, me too.. frylock Apr 2014 #9
It will be an interesting experiment. MineralMan Apr 2014 #7
And the abuses of the jury system will just increase nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #10
Swarms DJ13 Apr 2014 #22
Yep CFLDem Apr 2014 #76
I pre-emptively vote "Leave" on every post in perpetuity Doctor_J Apr 2014 #14
It won't effect the new jury system, but the new jury system will effect juries on which you serve whopis01 Apr 2014 #33
that would be "affect" , not "effect" . BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #35
Citizens Alert...Citizens Alert!!! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #51
it is?? BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #55
Yes he is isn't he! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #56
In the first case, yes that's true hootinholler Apr 2014 #52
it's true! .... BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #54
You've always been friendly to me hootinholler Apr 2014 #66
we grammar nazis are a friendly sort... BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #70
Awesome. Thanks for your dedication to this creation. riqster Apr 2014 #15
Nice summation of his creation dedication. Orrex Apr 2014 #26
An elicitation and explanation, in summation. riqster Apr 2014 #30
To be clear, 4 to hide, 3 to leave will hide it, yes? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #17
Yes. (nt) Skinner Apr 2014 #19
Excellent! JustAnotherGen Apr 2014 #20
Thanks, Admins! LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #21
Makes Sense cer7711 Apr 2014 #23
More the merrier. I'll feel better whenever I'm dead wrong and stuff. byronius Apr 2014 #24
Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! tclambert Apr 2014 #25
Can you make the 7-person jury retroactive? Orrex Apr 2014 #27
Alerting BeyondGeography Apr 2014 #28
I believe Sherman A1 Apr 2014 #29
great decision!..thank you! chillfactor Apr 2014 #34
Booooooooooo to all jury systems. Dawgs Apr 2014 #36
Kick & highly recommended. William769 Apr 2014 #37
Does highly recommended mean that it comes with catnip? TexasTowelie Apr 2014 #40
A shot of Wild Turkey. Will that work? William769 Apr 2014 #42
Got it. Thanks. pinto Apr 2014 #38
I don't think I'll fare well with a seven-person jury... KansDem Apr 2014 #39
Good call. Thanks Skinner. Scuba Apr 2014 #41
If someone gets a 0-7 Leave Sissyk Apr 2014 #43
Thanks Skinner, EarlG, and Elad.. Hope it works out, too. Cha Apr 2014 #46
I was hoping for the best six of eleven. rhett o rick Apr 2014 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author flamingdem Apr 2014 #49
Good! N/t krispos42 Apr 2014 #50
I was on a jury about 1.5 hours ago and got no results back. n/t hootinholler Apr 2014 #53
As far as I can tell, the last jury you served on was at 12:43 PM ET. Skinner Apr 2014 #57
Yes I was hootinholler Apr 2014 #65
That makes sense. Thanks, Skinner! calimary Apr 2014 #58
I once served on four in one day. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #59
Thank you!! Oakenshield Apr 2014 #60
Thanks to Elad for all the hard work and the rest of you for caring about our opinions. herding cats Apr 2014 #61
Thank you, Skinner kcr Apr 2014 #69
As we bid farewell to the Three Stooges system, let us take a moment to reflect upon the good times. Scootaloo Apr 2014 #73
Is it me or are the more posts getting hidden? hrmjustin Apr 2014 #74
It's not you. Skinner Apr 2014 #75
Thanks. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #77
I am willing to bet it is a trend nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #78
I think so as well but it may level out. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #79
Swarms are lovely nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #80
sounds good mgcgulfcoast Apr 2014 #81
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #82
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
1. I hope it works out.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:00 PM
Apr 2014

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
2. Cool.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:04 PM
Apr 2014

I was just on a jury but never got results I assume that means the poster was shown the door.

I'd love to encourage people to sign your jury votes it makes you take a momement and really think about the consequences of your vote. Happy jury duty everyone!

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
31. that's what I always do. if I can't come to a decision I'd be glad to put my name to, I opt out.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:31 PM
Apr 2014

Cha

(305,385 posts)
44. I thought we always get the results..?
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 06:38 PM
Apr 2014

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
45. I did eventually get them, someone was dragging their feet.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 06:40 PM
Apr 2014
 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
64. This time it wasn't me, but other times it is.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:48 AM
Apr 2014

I usually read a lot of the other posts in the thread, to get the context, and I usually find when I get the results that my comment was the longest.

The result is that I very often get an email about the results as soon as I submit my vote. I was the one holding up the parade.

Apologies in advance if I do that to you. Cultivate patience.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
67. Cultivating away...
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 08:47 AM
Apr 2014

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. Well that eliminates the issue of ties.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:08 PM
Apr 2014

That took a rocket scientist. Or not.

TDale313

(7,822 posts)
4. Thanks. I think this is a good thing. n/t
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:08 PM
Apr 2014
 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
5. The famous juror #3 will now get replaced with 7!
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:11 PM
Apr 2014

I like it though, the bigger the jurry, the more likely to come up with a fair decision.

greatauntoftriplets

(176,839 posts)
6. I just served on a jury.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:22 PM
Apr 2014

It was on your post. Don't know whether to or

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
8. hah..me too!
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:26 PM
Apr 2014

greatauntoftriplets

(176,839 posts)
11. I was juror # 4.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:28 PM
Apr 2014

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

Mail Message
On Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:19 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Seven-person juries go into effect today.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10133677

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Whining about DU's technical glitches.




j/k Want to see if there are any obvious glitches right off the bat and what better post to send to a 7 member jury than Skinner's announcement thread.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:25 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation:
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh please.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is the most reasonable alert ever! El_Bryanto
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: WTF?
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: LOL. LLP
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: hunh... whaaaaaaaaa???! is this one of those glitches or.......?
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation:

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
12. lol..I was juror 1.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:30 PM
Apr 2014

greatauntoftriplets

(176,839 posts)
13. And "LLP" must have been La Lioness Priyanka.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:31 PM
Apr 2014

I wonder who alerted. I bet that Skinner knows!

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
16. I bet he does.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:35 PM
Apr 2014

greatauntoftriplets

(176,839 posts)
18. Unreal that someone would alert that, even as a joke.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:38 PM
Apr 2014

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
32. oh i think it's hilarious!
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:34 PM
Apr 2014

Who did it? I'd love to go for coffee or a beer with you! Lololol.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
47. I so agree. nm
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 07:13 PM
Apr 2014

mountain grammy

(27,271 posts)
62. Me too.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 11:59 PM
Apr 2014
 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
63. ROFL! Confess!!!!
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:33 AM
Apr 2014

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
72. or we will
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:10 AM
Apr 2014

PUT YOU IN.....THE COMFY CHAIR!
And poke you with THE SOFT PILLOWS!!!


BWAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAAAAA!

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
68. DUzy! Alerting on a Skinner op. Where's MIRT?
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 09:56 AM
Apr 2014

greatauntoftriplets

(176,839 posts)
71. LOL, I'm on MIRT!
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:06 AM
Apr 2014

We don't know who alerted. Skinner does, I am certain.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
9. yeh, me too..
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:27 PM
Apr 2014

weird!

MineralMan

(147,572 posts)
7. It will be an interesting experiment.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:26 PM
Apr 2014

I expect to be called soon on one.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. And the abuses of the jury system will just increase
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:28 PM
Apr 2014

and yes, that is my view on this.

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
22. Swarms
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:50 PM
Apr 2014
 

CFLDem

(2,083 posts)
76. Yep
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 07:42 AM
Apr 2014
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
14. I pre-emptively vote "Leave" on every post in perpetuity
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:31 PM
Apr 2014

will this effect the new jury system?

I think my L:H ratio over time is 20:1 or so

whopis01

(3,723 posts)
33. It won't effect the new jury system, but the new jury system will effect juries on which you serve
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:36 PM
Apr 2014

If you were to always vote "Leave", that means votes will only be hidden if 4 of the remaining jurors vote "Hide". In the old jury system that would be 80% of them (4 out of 5). However in the new system it will only be 66.7% (4 out of 6).

So I guess, in a sense, you will be turning the new juries that you participate in into something akin to the old juries which you did not participate in. So perhaps you could consider that being an effect upon the system.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
35. that would be "affect" , not "effect" .
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:38 PM
Apr 2014

--Your friendly neighborhood grammar nazi.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
51. Citizens Alert...Citizens Alert!!!
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:14 PM
Apr 2014

Blatant Barney Fife and Gomer Pyle reference...

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
55. it is??
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:17 PM
Apr 2014

I bow to Barney Fife! King of Nerddom

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
56. Yes he is isn't he!
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:48 PM
Apr 2014

I don't think there ever was anyone dorkier than Barney Fife...


NIIIITAAAAA....WAAAHAAAHAAA NIIIIITA!!!!!

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
52. In the first case, yes that's true
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:16 PM
Apr 2014

In the second case it is totally correct to say "the new jury system will effect juries on which you serve", but probably doesn't quite mean what the poster thought it did.

You're friendly neighborhood grammar nazi

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
54. it's true! ....
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:16 PM
Apr 2014

I AM Friendly Neighborhood Grammar Nazi.




(case 2: good one!)

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
66. You've always been friendly to me
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 08:46 AM
Apr 2014

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
70. we grammar nazis are a friendly sort...
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:06 AM
Apr 2014

Until yourve gon over teh lion.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
15. Awesome. Thanks for your dedication to this creation.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:34 PM
Apr 2014

It is good to see.

Orrex

(64,101 posts)
26. Nice summation of his creation dedication.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:16 PM
Apr 2014

riqster

(13,986 posts)
30. An elicitation and explanation, in summation.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:23 PM
Apr 2014

muriel_volestrangler

(102,476 posts)
17. To be clear, 4 to hide, 3 to leave will hide it, yes?
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:37 PM
Apr 2014

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
19. Yes. (nt)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:40 PM
Apr 2014

JustAnotherGen

(33,544 posts)
20. Excellent!
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:47 PM
Apr 2014

Thanks!

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
21. Thanks, Admins!
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:48 PM
Apr 2014

cer7711

(509 posts)
23. Makes Sense
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:57 PM
Apr 2014

No system is perfect (given the injection of people with their complex psychologies) into theoretical constructs/systems governing the adjudication of disputed tone and content, but this certainly seems like a sensible tweak to the existing system: ties are eliminated and the "magic number" of 7 seems just right (neither too large nor too small to render fast, fair verdicts most of the time).

byronius

(7,598 posts)
24. More the merrier. I'll feel better whenever I'm dead wrong and stuff.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:06 PM
Apr 2014

Maybe.

tclambert

(11,134 posts)
25. Guilty! Guilty! Guilty!
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:07 PM
Apr 2014

I'm ready. Oh, too soon?

Orrex

(64,101 posts)
27. Can you make the 7-person jury retroactive?
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:17 PM
Apr 2014

BeyondGeography

(40,013 posts)
28. Alerting
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:17 PM
Apr 2014

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
29. I believe
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:18 PM
Apr 2014

this to be a good thing.

chillfactor

(7,694 posts)
34. great decision!..thank you!
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:36 PM
Apr 2014
 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
36. Booooooooooo to all jury systems.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:51 PM
Apr 2014

Always hated them, and not just on DU.

William769

(55,815 posts)
37. Kick & highly recommended.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:00 PM
Apr 2014

TexasTowelie

(116,749 posts)
40. Does highly recommended mean that it comes with catnip?
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:39 PM
Apr 2014


Let me take the next number.

William769

(55,815 posts)
42. A shot of Wild Turkey. Will that work?
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:41 PM
Apr 2014

pinto

(106,886 posts)
38. Got it. Thanks.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:26 PM
Apr 2014

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
39. I don't think I'll fare well with a seven-person jury...
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:37 PM
Apr 2014

...therefore I should be exempt from any decision regarding my posts.

Hey! I'm a OnePercenter wannabee!

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
41. Good call. Thanks Skinner.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:39 PM
Apr 2014

Sissyk

(12,665 posts)
43. If someone gets a 0-7 Leave
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 06:15 PM
Apr 2014

does that increase their alerting time out? Say to....36 hours? lol!

I was just on one!

Cha

(305,385 posts)
46. Thanks Skinner, EarlG, and Elad.. Hope it works out, too.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 07:02 PM
Apr 2014
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
48. I was hoping for the best six of eleven.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 07:17 PM
Apr 2014

Last edited Fri Apr 4, 2014, 08:38 AM - Edit history (1)

Just kidding. I appreciate the efforts you and other Admins go to, to make this a great message board. And I believe it is.

Response to Skinner (Original post)

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
50. Good! N/t
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:03 PM
Apr 2014

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
53. I was on a jury about 1.5 hours ago and got no results back. n/t
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:18 PM
Apr 2014

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
57. As far as I can tell, the last jury you served on was at 12:43 PM ET.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:59 PM
Apr 2014

Were you on another one since then?

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
65. Yes I was
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 08:44 AM
Apr 2014

It was when I got on after getting home. The one around noon I was at work.

Unfortunately, I can't remember which trainwreck GD thread it was in.

calimary

(84,306 posts)
58. That makes sense. Thanks, Skinner!
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:15 PM
Apr 2014
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
59. I once served on four in one day.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:16 PM
Apr 2014

Oakenshield

(628 posts)
60. Thank you!!
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:20 PM
Apr 2014

I'm sure this will be an improvement.

herding cats

(19,612 posts)
61. Thanks to Elad for all the hard work and the rest of you for caring about our opinions.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 11:39 PM
Apr 2014

I hope it helps settle things down a bit. I also hope I don't end up with hidden posts now! Maybe we'll all try and be a little nicer now that a hide will be easier to get? Hey, a girl can dream...right?

Seriously, thanks for all the hard work coding this into reality. I know it doesn't happen on its own and appreciate the effort.

kcr

(15,522 posts)
69. Thank you, Skinner
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:05 AM
Apr 2014
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
73. As we bid farewell to the Three Stooges system, let us take a moment to reflect upon the good times.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:19 PM
Apr 2014


 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
74. Is it me or are the more posts getting hidden?
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 02:57 PM
Apr 2014

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
75. It's not you.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 06:23 AM
Apr 2014

In the last day there were 20 alerts, and 13 were hidden. That's a much higher percentage hidden than usual.

What remains to be seen is whether it is a fluke or a trend.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
77. Thanks.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 08:26 AM
Apr 2014

I hope it is not a trend.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
78. I am willing to bet it is a trend
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 09:56 AM
Apr 2014
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
79. I think so as well but it may level out.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 10:00 AM
Apr 2014
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
80. Swarms are lovely
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 10:07 AM
Apr 2014

So eggshells it is

mgcgulfcoast

(1,127 posts)
81. sounds good
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 04:58 AM
Apr 2014

Response to Skinner (Original post)

Latest Discussions»Help & Search»Announcements»Seven-person juries go in...