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Related: About this forumDemocratic Underground will go dark at 3am ET January 18 to protest SOPA and PIPA
This discussion thread was locked by Skinner (a host of the Announcements group).
Democratic Underground will go dark for 18 hours on January 18, from 3am ET until 9pm ET, to protest the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and the Protect Intellectual Property Act (PIPA). During that time visitors will not be able to read or post on the site. We know that you depend on Democratic Underground to be there for you, and we did not take the decision to join this protest lightly.
Democratic Underground is an open, community-based website that depends on content provided by our visitors. That includes original content created by our members, and excerpts and links to content published elsewhere. Because of the work our members put into their posts here, and also because of our dependence on excerpts and links from elsewhere, we have a deep appreciation for content creators, and we understand the importance of protecting their work. The DU Administrators understand the importance of protecting copyrights -- we have always made a good faith effort to respect copyrights on this site, and we expect our members to do the same.
However, we here at Democratic Underground have first-hand knowledge of what it is like to be unfairly harassed in the name of copyright enforcement. Over the last year we have been a defendant in a high-profile copyright-trolling case in which we were threatened with tens of thousands of dollars of damages and the loss of our domain name, because one of our members posted a brief five-sentence excerpt of an article. The experience has made us extremely sensitive to the issue of out-of-control copyright enforcement, and we feel that we have a responsibility to add our voice to the protests taking place across the Internet.
During the downtime, we hope that you will take a moment and contact your representatives in Congress to let them know that you support an open Internet, and you oppose SOPA and PIPA. You can look up your representatives on the EFF website.
Thank you,
David Allen
Dave Allsopp
Brian Leitner
DU Administrators
flvegan
(64,592 posts)Renew Deal
(82,928 posts)mattvermont
(646 posts)Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)Yay DU A- Rah-Rah-Rah!!
fishwax
(29,325 posts)hlthe2b
(106,332 posts)and will plan accordingly..... Luddite Day tomorrow...
AnOhioan
(2,894 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,496 posts)elleng
(136,043 posts)We'll miss eachother.
originalpckelly
(24,382 posts)You rock!
Justice wanted
(2,657 posts)Seedersandleechers
(3,044 posts)most mornings regardless. However, glad they are taking a stand.
Autumn
(46,293 posts)Thank you for your support. You guys are awesome.
Sedona
(3,818 posts)I'll miss this place, fortunately I've downloaded a few good movies to keep me occupied.
icefilms.info
OhioChick
(23,218 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Sellouts.
mattvermont
(646 posts)greyl
(22,997 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Fight the Power!
Capitalocracy
(4,307 posts)Quietly.
Vanje
(9,766 posts)I'll miss DU.
But THANK YOU!
Tres AWESOME!
Liberty Belle
(9,610 posts)I have heard this from our own soon-to-be Congresswoman whose neighboring district will include my area next year.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Thanks Skinner!
Orrex
(64,101 posts)I suppose that they can simply browse Wikipedia in the meantime...
dixiegrrrrl
(60,011 posts)Very droll, that.
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)Count me in!
I wholeheartedly support going dark in solidarity.
Solly Mack
(92,762 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)has been offline for a few days and turns up tomorrow? Or will they be "in the dark" as well?
If you had a bit more lead time, you could have run a "protest sign" contest!
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)ChromeFoundry
(3,270 posts)Bravo, sirs! Bravo!
DavidDvorkin
(19,889 posts)I wish you hadn't made this decision.
MilesColtrane
(18,678 posts)dammit
a2liberal
(1,524 posts)There's a censors union?
Muskypundit
(717 posts)Close enough, eh?
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Let's work for a law that protects you without impeding your ability to express yourself in other ways.
FSogol
(46,511 posts)Additionally, I expect the quality of Yahoo "Answers" to greatly improve from 3 am to 9 pm.
jannyk
(4,810 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,312 posts)Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)You guys rock!
handmade34
(22,920 posts)Better Believe It
(18,630 posts)cliffordu
(30,994 posts)bluedigger
(17,148 posts)I fully support this action.
Stinky The Clown
(68,461 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,185 posts)We don't need to hold our breath until we turn blue to protest something. We need to continue to be the voice of reason, and we cannot do that while we remain silent.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)I might actually have a productive day tomorrow.
YvonneCa
(10,117 posts)...
dixiegrrrrl
(60,011 posts)Tikki
(14,795 posts)Tikki
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)Time to take back what belongs to us and not them.
On edit. I also said before I wouldn't miss Face Book or Twitter, maybe Google a bit, but I definitely would miss DU and I will miss you if only for a day.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)jdadd
(1,320 posts)Maybe I'll get off my ass and clean out the basement.....
one_voice
(20,043 posts)bad news...now I gotta clean tomorrow.
amerikat
(5,000 posts)Thank you. A million small sacrifices or actions can change the world.
I hoped DU would participate. Thank you DU!
GoldenOldie
(1,540 posts)One of the reasons why I joined DU.
Arkansas Granny
(31,823 posts)AllyCat
(17,102 posts)Javaman
(63,100 posts)I think I'm starting to hyperventilate. LOL
Vanje
(9,766 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)in light of how the MPAA is whining about it ... solidarity.
I will totally miss DU, but am willing to suffer for the cause.
Whatever.
Sorry, but this whole blackout thing seems to be about as pointless as it gets.
Enjoy yourselves!
William769
(55,815 posts)Paka
(2,760 posts)but it is an important cause to support. Way to go!
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Or just the list of phone numbers for the congressmen who are on the fence about SOPA.
KT2000
(20,832 posts)what this is all about. I support your move 100%.
uppityperson
(115,869 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)rocktivity
(44,883 posts)Especially since I just got home from a business trip made a LOT less stressful because I was able to reach DU by Wifi AND "drill down" for advice about local transportation and entertainment from some "natives." I'm also grateful for those of you who made the ninth annual "You Call This NEWS?" awards -- posted on both DU2 and DU3 -- the most viewed ever.
As I understand how SOPA is currently written, ANY kind of linking -- with or without "fair use" excerpts -- could be legally defined as "piracy" or "copyright infringement." And even if that were not the case, SOPA is also devoid of constitutionally guaranteed due process.
So I'll suck it up, dedicate the 18 hours to working on my other projects, and will see you on the other side.
rocktivity
tkmorris
(11,138 posts)It's the right call I think.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)csziggy
(34,189 posts)It will be a good time for me to contact my congress critters to complain about SOPA and PIPA.
And maybe while this site is black, I'll get something done around the house.
TygrBright
(20,987 posts)joshcryer
(62,490 posts)highplainsdem
(52,337 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)...it's not like I even have that much real work to do!
BiggJawn
(23,051 posts)Let's make a point that won't be missed.
onestepforward
(3,691 posts)mike_c
(36,332 posts)Thank you.
JBoy
(8,021 posts)MilesColtrane
(18,678 posts)Some would like to portray the debate over Internet theft as one in which a few wealthy artists, creators and powerful corporations are concerned about giving away their product because they are greedy and cannot change with the times to create new business models. The hundreds of thousands of people represented by the AEMI unions of the AFL-CIO are a testament to the falsity of that proposition.
Online theft and the sale of illegal CDs and DVDs are not victimless crimes. Digital theft costs jobs and benefits. It is critical, at this important moment in the evolution of the Internet and potential Internet policy, for union members and leaders to publicly and visibly engage in a sustained effort to protect members livelihoods, the creation and innovation that are the hallmark of their work and the economic health and viability of the creative industries in this country. The AEMI unions and other unions in U.S. entertainment stress that pirated content is devastating to the entertainment professionals who create the underlying works.
The AFL-CIO strongly supports the efforts of the AEMI unions and the Department for Professional Employees, AFL-CIO, to combat piracy. It commends their work with government and industry to develop workable solutions to protect the interests of their members. The AFL-CIO urges its affiliate unions to educate their members about the adverse impact of piracy; to support efforts to ensure that government officials and lawmakers are aware of, and support the protection of, entertainment industry jobs that will be lost to online theft; to encourage their members to respect copyright law; and to urge their members, as a matter of union solidarity, to never illegally download or stream pirated content or purchase illegal CDs and DVDs.
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/Almeida%2011162011.pdf
EarlG
(22,540 posts)These are bad bills that if passed could have extremely dire ramifications for the entire Internet.
SOPA/PIPA gets rid of Safe Harbors. There is no safe space. A copyright holder can initiate a "private right of action", convince a judge to issue an injunction (which we now know is way too easy to do) get your domain blocked, your advertising pulled and your finances frozen.
And thanks to to SOPA/PIPA's immunity provisions, a copyright holder wouldn't even need a court order shut you down, just a letter to your service providers threatening to.
Much more: http://veniceforchange.blogspot.com/2012/01/confessions-of-hollywood-professional.html?spref=tw
MilesColtrane
(18,678 posts)So do I.
I stand with my union.
joshcryer
(62,490 posts)If I was with a union that supported SOPA I would register my misgivings, not unquestioningly support them.
Muskypundit
(717 posts)man4allcats
(4,026 posts)Thanks for standing up!
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Bring on the light through the darkness
2Design
(9,099 posts)cry baby
(6,775 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)K and R
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)The White House Labels SOPA Censorship And Refuses To Support It
http://www.politicususa.com/en/obama-opposes-sopa
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Like he won't sign NDAA, more "free" trade agreements...
donheld
(21,317 posts)Why Syzygy
(18,928 posts)Stand with you 100%.
CC
(8,039 posts)Taverner
(55,476 posts)CherokeeDem
(3,718 posts)Proud that DU is taking a stand.
Dragonbreathp9d
(2,542 posts)Good move loved ones
Blacksheep214
(877 posts)Let's put the downtime to good use!
Later!
jwirr
(39,215 posts)kas125
(2,472 posts)alp227
(32,459 posts)I'll have time to go to the library and study SolidWorks then bookmark links for posting tomorrow evening.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)I support this all the way. This is an important fight.
applegrove
(123,112 posts)Change has come
(2,372 posts)Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Smilo
(1,950 posts)up against those that would use SOPA and PIPA as an excuse to stifle free speech.
dmr
(28,645 posts)RevStPatrick
(2,208 posts)Thanks for doing this.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts):kick:
bigtree
(90,141 posts)I'll look to see the extent of the protests and the impact tomorrow in the other media. Best wishes . . .
silverweb
(16,402 posts)tinymontgomery
(2,649 posts)Total support. Will there be a support group somewhere I can go to?
Rhiannon12866
(222,072 posts)Don't know if you're familiar with it, but the DU Panic Room has been where members could always get info if DU is down. It's been awhile, but it still looks viable to me...
http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/DUPanicRoom/
tinymontgomery
(2,649 posts)found you post after DU went dark. Will book mark for future. Thanks again.
Rhiannon12866
(222,072 posts)But it was awfully late. Someone posted the notice that DU was going dark, good idea for those who might not have seen the announcement. I was afraid you might not have seen it in time, but at least we now know it's still active.
2banon
(7,321 posts)murphyj87
(649 posts)Canadian Bill C-11 analogous to SOPA in the US.
nolabear
(43,215 posts)tavalon
(27,985 posts)Woot. Thanks for joining in on this one, guys!
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)spin
(17,493 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Capitalocracy
(4,307 posts)for something as silly as actually standing up for something.
But in all honesty, it will still raise awareness.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)PETRUS
(3,678 posts)I'll miss y'all, even for just a day.
denbot
(9,912 posts)Hmm.. what to do?
me b zola
(19,053 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Be tough.
Digit
(6,163 posts)I am glad DU is doing this.
The Genealogist
(4,736 posts)I thank the administrators for choosing to protest in this manner!
xocet
(3,943 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Kablooie
(18,769 posts)Good luck guys.
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)bermudat
(1,329 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)LibertyorDeath
(9,295 posts)Thank You!
Duer 157099
(17,742 posts)but in a good way
usregimechange
(18,493 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)ellisonz
(27,739 posts)Dead_Parrot
(14,478 posts)I hate you. But, my wife thinks you're awesome.
Tuesday_Morning
(1,704 posts)THANK YOU!
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)I'll be logging out of here not long after 2:00(Central). Hope this works out for us.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)K&R
Capitalocracy
(4,307 posts)Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)The Wielding Truth
(11,421 posts)Papagoose
(428 posts)Now that I've numbed my fingers from writing scads of emails to Congress and calling the Capitol until I could talk no more, it's good to have DU back.
Wistful Vista
(136 posts)Maven
(10,533 posts)Capitalocracy
(4,307 posts)DU! *gasp* DU!
cstanleytech
(27,000 posts)It seems like the media in general gave the event little to no coverage or atleast thats my opinion.
littlewolf
(3,813 posts)Glad to hear it, also Google has joined the protest.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Ethics. I like them.
Thanks for walking the talk, Admins
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)Hung out on imvu all day! But, I did manage to get three friends to sign the petition!
FailureToCommunicate
(14,322 posts)(Yes I remember them. Least I didn't say the ice man or the coal truck!)
Writing and phoning to Congress critters always seems as useful as putting a message in a bottle and tossing it into the ocean. But we do it anyway, cause here in the US we have democracy, right?
Thanks David, Dave and Brian, et alia, for solidarity.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Nice to see an organization taking a stand based on integrity.
Kudos to DU! Wow!!
TBF
(34,286 posts)All in all a good day. Thank you for protesting - I did read on Forbes (while DU was down) that Pres Obama is also opposing those bills in their current form. I was very happy to hear that.
slay
(7,670 posts)this is a badge of honor - to have been on the side of a free internet - one of THE most worthy causes these days in the way it will shape the entire future - that's what is at stake with SOPA. Bravo DU, Skinner, Elad, and EarlG. This is STILL more important to the future than most people can even comprehend
sumi12
(13 posts)SOPA(Stop Online Privacy Act) is good rules but now a days internet is one of the most important part of Human life. So i think it can be change.
sumi12
(13 posts)But it was awfully late. Someone posted the notice that DU was going dark, good idea for those who might not have seen the announcement. I was afraid you might not have seen it in time, but at least we now know it's still active