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Skinner

(63,645 posts)
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:30 PM Jan 2012

Democratic Underground will go dark at 3am ET January 18 to protest SOPA and PIPA

This discussion thread was locked by Skinner (a host of the Announcements group).

Democratic Underground will go dark for 18 hours on January 18, from 3am ET until 9pm ET, to protest the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and the Protect Intellectual Property Act (PIPA). During that time visitors will not be able to read or post on the site. We know that you depend on Democratic Underground to be there for you, and we did not take the decision to join this protest lightly.

Democratic Underground is an open, community-based website that depends on content provided by our visitors. That includes original content created by our members, and excerpts and links to content published elsewhere. Because of the work our members put into their posts here, and also because of our dependence on excerpts and links from elsewhere, we have a deep appreciation for content creators, and we understand the importance of protecting their work. The DU Administrators understand the importance of protecting copyrights -- we have always made a good faith effort to respect copyrights on this site, and we expect our members to do the same.

However, we here at Democratic Underground have first-hand knowledge of what it is like to be unfairly harassed in the name of copyright enforcement. Over the last year we have been a defendant in a high-profile copyright-trolling case in which we were threatened with tens of thousands of dollars of damages and the loss of our domain name, because one of our members posted a brief five-sentence excerpt of an article. The experience has made us extremely sensitive to the issue of out-of-control copyright enforcement, and we feel that we have a responsibility to add our voice to the protests taking place across the Internet.

During the downtime, we hope that you will take a moment and contact your representatives in Congress to let them know that you support an open Internet, and you oppose SOPA and PIPA. You can look up your representatives on the EFF website.

Thank you,

David Allen
Dave Allsopp
Brian Leitner
DU Administrators

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Democratic Underground will go dark at 3am ET January 18 to protest SOPA and PIPA (Original Post) Skinner Jan 2012 OP
Blammo! Rockin, Skinner. Well done, sir. flvegan Jan 2012 #1
Tomorrow is going to be a long day Renew Deal Jan 2012 #2
indeed. mattvermont Jan 2012 #20
Yeah, I understand, Renew Deal.... Ecumenist Jan 2012 #21
yes it will fishwax Jan 2012 #42
I strongly support this move... hlthe2b Jan 2012 #3
Good job :) AnOhioan Jan 2012 #4
well done - K and R. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2012 #5
Thanks. elleng Jan 2012 #6
Two words: originalpckelly Jan 2012 #7
Thank you for supporting the Protest. Justice wanted Jan 2012 #8
I have problems getting DU to load at 3:00am Seedersandleechers Jan 2012 #9
Oh my GOD no DU for 18 hours!!!!! Autumn Jan 2012 #10
BRAVO SKINNER! Sedona Jan 2012 #11
Good n/t OhioChick Jan 2012 #12
DU is pandering to Big Free Speech. onehandle Jan 2012 #13
???? What is wrong with that?? mattvermont Jan 2012 #25
I do believe that was sarcasm. ;) nt greyl Jan 2012 #90
No way. Big Free Speech is just another fat cat lobby. onehandle Jan 2012 #96
Yes, fight the power! Capitalocracy Jan 2012 #148
Thankyou! Vanje Jan 2012 #14
Redistricted? Contact your new and old reps - those gaining new voters want to know your views. Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #15
Right on. lonestarnot Jan 2012 #16
Mostly I feel bad for the people who won't get to read my wisdom tomorrow Orrex Jan 2012 #17
I see what you did there. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #38
Does this mean no jury duty for 18 hours? Liberal Veteran Jan 2012 #18
K&R Solly Mack Jan 2012 #19
So, will there be some sort of notice that explains what is happening for the oddball who MADem Jan 2012 #22
well done guys maddezmom Jan 2012 #23
:) Nova. Jan 2012 #24
Occupy Internet! K&R ChromeFoundry Jan 2012 #26
This is pointless and foolish DavidDvorkin Jan 2012 #27
I agree. I'll have to rethink supporting a site that is fighting pro-union legislation. MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #56
Huh?! a2liberal Jan 2012 #84
No, but there is a police union. Muskypundit Jan 2012 #99
While your cause is righteous, this law is not the way to achieve it, imo. cbayer Jan 2012 #125
Do you have some grief counselors lined up to help the more prolific among us deal with withdraws? FSogol Jan 2012 #28
Bravo, Well Done - see you on the other side. jannyk Jan 2012 #29
Yay! Thank you! nt Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #30
Thank you. Terra Alta Jan 2012 #31
... handmade34 Jan 2012 #32
I support this move. Better Believe It Jan 2012 #33
Most Excellent. cliffordu Jan 2012 #34
Well done! bluedigger Jan 2012 #35
Good Stinky The Clown Jan 2012 #36
I disagree customerserviceguy Jan 2012 #37
Cool! Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #39
Excellent choice... YvonneCa Jan 2012 #40
Actions speak louder than words. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #41
YAY.....I love DU.. Tikki Jan 2012 #43
Good for you DU! sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #44
Good for you. I will be sad, but it's for a good cause. Cleita Jan 2012 #45
We are all on board with that! JDPriestly Jan 2012 #46
I support this Move...... jdadd Jan 2012 #47
This is good news... one_voice Jan 2012 #48
Unoccupy the net. amerikat Jan 2012 #49
Would be more surprised, if you didn't! GoldenOldie Jan 2012 #50
Well, guess I'll see you all tomorrow night. Arkansas Granny Jan 2012 #51
Will miss DU, but would miss open internet more. Thanks for doing this! AllyCat Jan 2012 #52
Good for DU! However... Javaman Jan 2012 #53
And, oh! K &R! nt Vanje Jan 2012 #54
Solidarity. This is particularly sweet 99th_Monkey Jan 2012 #55
OK. HuckleB Jan 2012 #57
K&R! William769 Jan 2012 #58
Down news day for me... Paka Jan 2012 #59
Visitors to DU during the blackout should be presented with a form to contact congress. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #60
You do know better than most KT2000 Jan 2012 #61
Aw dang, huge snowstorm bearing down on us tomorrow, have to go outside and play. uppityperson Jan 2012 #62
Well done, Sirs. cbayer Jan 2012 #63
I'm gonna miss it but KUDOS to DU for doing this! ProfessionalLeftist Jan 2012 #64
I'll miss you all rocktivity Jan 2012 #65
I am so proud to be a member here tonight tkmorris Jan 2012 #66
Great! (Although I'll miss DU) n/t deutsey Jan 2012 #67
Thank you for your support! csziggy Jan 2012 #68
This is only the kind of principled action I'd expect from you guys. Thanks. n/t TygrBright Jan 2012 #69
Hells yeah. joshcryer Jan 2012 #70
Bravo! K&R highplainsdem Jan 2012 #71
Man, is tomorrow gonna suck... KamaAina Jan 2012 #72
I'm with y'all, Skinner! BiggJawn Jan 2012 #73
Awesome! Thank you! onestepforward Jan 2012 #74
well done.... mike_c Jan 2012 #75
Righteous. JBoy Jan 2012 #76
The unions of the AFL-CIO that represent professionals... MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #77
Opposing SOPA and PIPA isn't about supporting piracy EarlG Jan 2012 #85
You gotta do what you gotta do. MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #86
Why Unions Should Not Support SOPA joshcryer Jan 2012 #107
Solidarity Muskypundit Jan 2012 #78
K & R! man4allcats Jan 2012 #79
Glad to hear it........... Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #80
how does one make their site go dark if Wordpress - don't want to mess it up 2Design Jan 2012 #81
Wrote to reps. Proud of your decision! Nt cry baby Jan 2012 #82
Very cool! bigwillq Jan 2012 #83
AND be sure to send a THANK YOU note to President Obama too :) Tx4obama Jan 2012 #87
He won't sign SOPA. MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #132
You have my complete support in this move! donheld Jan 2012 #88
Good 47of74 Jan 2012 #89
Bravo Why Syzygy Jan 2012 #91
Glad to hear it. n/t CC Jan 2012 #92
Understood. Taverner Jan 2012 #93
Great move! CherokeeDem Jan 2012 #94
While I may not like it nor see it necessary I agree and support 2000% Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #95
United We Stand! Blacksheep214 Jan 2012 #97
I wondered why we were not joining the protest. Glad to be part of this. jwirr Jan 2012 #98
Thank you! kas125 Jan 2012 #100
Good night then! Without DU and Wikipedia, alp227 Jan 2012 #101
Good on you, guys Canuckistanian Jan 2012 #102
Whatever you do we will follow. You are great leaders. applegrove Jan 2012 #103
Beautiful! Change has come Jan 2012 #104
Thumbs up. n/t Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #105
Thank you for standing Smilo Jan 2012 #106
Solidarity dmr Jan 2012 #108
Good idea. RevStPatrick Jan 2012 #109
K/R (nt) NYC_SKP Jan 2012 #110
well, you got my attention bigtree Jan 2012 #111
So proud to be a part of DU! silverweb Jan 2012 #112
Withdraw will be unbearable tinymontgomery Jan 2012 #113
There actually is a support group! LOL. Rhiannon12866 Jan 2012 #145
Thanks, tinymontgomery Jan 2012 #163
Well, there wasn't much there when I checked it last night Rhiannon12866 Jan 2012 #165
Bravo! 2banon Jan 2012 #114
Also include murphyj87 Jan 2012 #115
Solidarity. nolabear Jan 2012 #116
k&r tawadi Jan 2012 #117
I am so fucking proud of us tavalon Jan 2012 #118
Hellz Yeah! Arugula Latte Jan 2012 #119
Good!!!!! It's better to shut down for a few hours than to be shut down in the future. (n/t) spin Jan 2012 #120
Looks like Google.com is staying up, they're only blacking out their logo. n/t Tx4obama Jan 2012 #121
What a load of crap. UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2012 #124
You wouldn't actually expect them to lose market share to Bing and Yahoo... Capitalocracy Jan 2012 #131
Good for DU! UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2012 #122
Bravo! Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #123
Bravo. Matariki Jan 2012 #126
Thanks PETRUS Jan 2012 #127
Right on!! denbot Jan 2012 #128
K&R me b zola Jan 2012 #129
I am stunned. In a good way! MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #130
Way to go! Digit Jan 2012 #133
I fully support this protest The Genealogist Jan 2012 #134
Excellent. n/t xocet Jan 2012 #135
Right decision, guys... Surya Gayatri Jan 2012 #136
Get some rest while you're at it. Kablooie Jan 2012 #137
K&r Stand for something or step aside. Kudos...... n/t Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2012 #138
It's gotta be done, then so be it. Populist_Prole Jan 2012 #139
I'll really be productive at work tomorrow. bermudat Jan 2012 #140
I'm behind you 100%! backscatter712 Jan 2012 #141
Excellent! LibertyorDeath Jan 2012 #142
That's gonna hurt Duer 157099 Jan 2012 #143
I fully endorse this action usregimechange Jan 2012 #144
K&R for free speech! McCamy Taylor Jan 2012 #146
Sounds good. n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #147
I'll finally get around to cleaning out the garage. Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #149
a great big fat Tuesday_Morning Jan 2012 #150
To Skinner, and all the other admins......You have our complete support. =) AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #151
Agree with you and support this action suffragette Jan 2012 #152
200th rec, less than 10 minutes to go. See you guys in 18 hours! Capitalocracy Jan 2012 #153
See you in 24 hours my friends. I am personally going dark as well. Firebrand Gary Jan 2012 #154
Yay! DU is back! The Wielding Truth Jan 2012 #155
Welcome back DU! Papagoose Jan 2012 #156
Same here. I really think DU and many other sites will kill off this vile critter! Wistful Vista Jan 2012 #158
OMG. I GOT THE SHAKES FROM WITHDRAWL Maven Jan 2012 #157
*Crawling in gasping for air* Capitalocracy Jan 2012 #160
I am not sure how much of a success the effort was. cstanleytech Jan 2012 #159
good job littlewolf Jan 2012 #161
I really like associating myself with this community BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2012 #162
Wow! I survived it! AsahinaKimi Jan 2012 #164
It felt like the paperboy AND the milkman skipped delivery... FailureToCommunicate Jan 2012 #166
Very proud moment for DU avaistheone1 Jan 2012 #167
I finally have clean carpets. TBF Jan 2012 #168
I am EXTREMELY proud of DU and the admins for doing this slay Jan 2012 #169
Democratic Underground will go dark at 3am ET January 18 to protest SOPA and PIPA sumi12 Jan 2012 #170
Democratic Underground will go dark at 3am ET January 18 to protest SOPA and PIPA sumi12 Jan 2012 #171

flvegan

(64,592 posts)
1. Blammo! Rockin, Skinner. Well done, sir.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:31 PM
Jan 2012

Renew Deal

(82,928 posts)
2. Tomorrow is going to be a long day
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:32 PM
Jan 2012

mattvermont

(646 posts)
20. indeed.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:39 PM
Jan 2012

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
21. Yeah, I understand, Renew Deal....
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:41 PM
Jan 2012


Yay DU A- Rah-Rah-Rah!!

fishwax

(29,325 posts)
42. yes it will
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:49 PM
Jan 2012


hlthe2b

(106,332 posts)
3. I strongly support this move...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jan 2012

and will plan accordingly..... Luddite Day tomorrow...

AnOhioan

(2,894 posts)
4. Good job :)
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jan 2012

NRaleighLiberal

(60,496 posts)
5. well done - K and R.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jan 2012

elleng

(136,043 posts)
6. Thanks.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jan 2012

We'll miss eachother.

originalpckelly

(24,382 posts)
7. Two words:
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:34 PM
Jan 2012

You rock!

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
8. Thank you for supporting the Protest.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:34 PM
Jan 2012

Seedersandleechers

(3,044 posts)
9. I have problems getting DU to load at 3:00am
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:35 PM
Jan 2012

most mornings regardless. However, glad they are taking a stand.

Autumn

(46,293 posts)
10. Oh my GOD no DU for 18 hours!!!!!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:35 PM
Jan 2012

Thank you for your support. You guys are awesome.

Sedona

(3,818 posts)
11. BRAVO SKINNER!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:36 PM
Jan 2012

I'll miss this place, fortunately I've downloaded a few good movies to keep me occupied.

icefilms.info


OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
12. Good n/t
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:37 PM
Jan 2012

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
13. DU is pandering to Big Free Speech.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:38 PM
Jan 2012

Sellouts.

mattvermont

(646 posts)
25. ???? What is wrong with that??
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:41 PM
Jan 2012

greyl

(22,997 posts)
90. I do believe that was sarcasm. ;) nt
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:41 PM
Jan 2012

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
96. No way. Big Free Speech is just another fat cat lobby.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:47 PM
Jan 2012

Fight the Power!

Capitalocracy

(4,307 posts)
148. Yes, fight the power!
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 02:30 AM
Jan 2012

Quietly.

Vanje

(9,766 posts)
14. Thankyou!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:39 PM
Jan 2012

I'll miss DU.
But THANK YOU!
Tres AWESOME!

Liberty Belle

(9,610 posts)
15. Redistricted? Contact your new and old reps - those gaining new voters want to know your views.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:39 PM
Jan 2012

I have heard this from our own soon-to-be Congresswoman whose neighboring district will include my area next year.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
16. Right on.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:39 PM
Jan 2012

Thanks Skinner!

Orrex

(64,101 posts)
17. Mostly I feel bad for the people who won't get to read my wisdom tomorrow
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:39 PM
Jan 2012

I suppose that they can simply browse Wikipedia in the meantime...

dixiegrrrrl

(60,011 posts)
38. I see what you did there.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:47 PM
Jan 2012

Very droll, that.

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
18. Does this mean no jury duty for 18 hours?
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:39 PM
Jan 2012


Count me in!

I wholeheartedly support going dark in solidarity.

Solly Mack

(92,762 posts)
19. K&R
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:39 PM
Jan 2012

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. So, will there be some sort of notice that explains what is happening for the oddball who
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:41 PM
Jan 2012

has been offline for a few days and turns up tomorrow? Or will they be "in the dark" as well?

If you had a bit more lead time, you could have run a "protest sign" contest!

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
23. well done guys
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:41 PM
Jan 2012

Nova.

(14 posts)
24. :)
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:41 PM
Jan 2012

ChromeFoundry

(3,270 posts)
26. Occupy Internet! K&R
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:41 PM
Jan 2012

Bravo, sirs! Bravo!

DavidDvorkin

(19,889 posts)
27. This is pointless and foolish
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:42 PM
Jan 2012

I wish you hadn't made this decision.

MilesColtrane

(18,678 posts)
56. I agree. I'll have to rethink supporting a site that is fighting pro-union legislation.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:02 PM
Jan 2012

dammit

a2liberal

(1,524 posts)
84. Huh?!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:35 PM
Jan 2012

There's a censors union?

Muskypundit

(717 posts)
99. No, but there is a police union.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:53 PM
Jan 2012

Close enough, eh?

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
125. While your cause is righteous, this law is not the way to achieve it, imo.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:40 AM
Jan 2012

Let's work for a law that protects you without impeding your ability to express yourself in other ways.

FSogol

(46,511 posts)
28. Do you have some grief counselors lined up to help the more prolific among us deal with withdraws?
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:42 PM
Jan 2012

Additionally, I expect the quality of Yahoo "Answers" to greatly improve from 3 am to 9 pm.

jannyk

(4,810 posts)
29. Bravo, Well Done - see you on the other side.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:43 PM
Jan 2012

Ruby the Liberal

(26,312 posts)
30. Yay! Thank you! nt
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:43 PM
Jan 2012

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
31. Thank you.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:44 PM
Jan 2012

You guys rock!

handmade34

(22,920 posts)
32. ...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:45 PM
Jan 2012
 

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)
33. I support this move.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:45 PM
Jan 2012

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
34. Most Excellent.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:46 PM
Jan 2012

bluedigger

(17,148 posts)
35. Well done!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:46 PM
Jan 2012

I fully support this action.

Stinky The Clown

(68,461 posts)
36. Good
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:46 PM
Jan 2012

customerserviceguy

(25,185 posts)
37. I disagree
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:47 PM
Jan 2012

We don't need to hold our breath until we turn blue to protest something. We need to continue to be the voice of reason, and we cannot do that while we remain silent.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
39. Cool!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:47 PM
Jan 2012

I might actually have a productive day tomorrow.

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
40. Excellent choice...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:48 PM
Jan 2012

...

dixiegrrrrl

(60,011 posts)
41. Actions speak louder than words.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:48 PM
Jan 2012

Tikki

(14,795 posts)
43. YAY.....I love DU..
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:49 PM
Jan 2012



Tikki

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
44. Good for you DU!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:49 PM
Jan 2012

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
45. Good for you. I will be sad, but it's for a good cause.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:49 PM
Jan 2012

Time to take back what belongs to us and not them.

On edit. I also said before I wouldn't miss Face Book or Twitter, maybe Google a bit, but I definitely would miss DU and I will miss you if only for a day.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
46. We are all on board with that!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:50 PM
Jan 2012

jdadd

(1,320 posts)
47. I support this Move......
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:50 PM
Jan 2012

Maybe I'll get off my ass and clean out the basement.....

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
48. This is good news...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:50 PM
Jan 2012

bad news...now I gotta clean tomorrow.



amerikat

(5,000 posts)
49. Unoccupy the net.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:52 PM
Jan 2012

Thank you. A million small sacrifices or actions can change the world.
I hoped DU would participate. Thank you DU!

GoldenOldie

(1,540 posts)
50. Would be more surprised, if you didn't!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:54 PM
Jan 2012

One of the reasons why I joined DU.

Arkansas Granny

(31,823 posts)
51. Well, guess I'll see you all tomorrow night.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:54 PM
Jan 2012

AllyCat

(17,102 posts)
52. Will miss DU, but would miss open internet more. Thanks for doing this!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:56 PM
Jan 2012

Javaman

(63,100 posts)
53. Good for DU! However...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:58 PM
Jan 2012

I think I'm starting to hyperventilate. LOL

Vanje

(9,766 posts)
54. And, oh! K &R! nt
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:00 PM
Jan 2012
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
55. Solidarity. This is particularly sweet
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:00 PM
Jan 2012

in light of how the MPAA is whining about it ... solidarity.

I will totally miss DU, but am willing to suffer for the cause.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
57. OK.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:03 PM
Jan 2012

Whatever.

Sorry, but this whole blackout thing seems to be about as pointless as it gets.

Enjoy yourselves!

William769

(55,815 posts)
58. K&R!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:03 PM
Jan 2012

Paka

(2,760 posts)
59. Down news day for me...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:04 PM
Jan 2012

but it is an important cause to support. Way to go!

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
60. Visitors to DU during the blackout should be presented with a form to contact congress.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:05 PM
Jan 2012

Or just the list of phone numbers for the congressmen who are on the fence about SOPA.

KT2000

(20,832 posts)
61. You do know better than most
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:07 PM
Jan 2012

what this is all about. I support your move 100%.

uppityperson

(115,869 posts)
62. Aw dang, huge snowstorm bearing down on us tomorrow, have to go outside and play.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:07 PM
Jan 2012

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
63. Well done, Sirs.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:07 PM
Jan 2012

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
64. I'm gonna miss it but KUDOS to DU for doing this!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:09 PM
Jan 2012

rocktivity

(44,883 posts)
65. I'll miss you all
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:09 PM
Jan 2012

Especially since I just got home from a business trip made a LOT less stressful because I was able to reach DU by Wifi AND "drill down" for advice about local transportation and entertainment from some "natives." I'm also grateful for those of you who made the ninth annual "You Call This NEWS?" awards -- posted on both DU2 and DU3 -- the most viewed ever.

As I understand how SOPA is currently written, ANY kind of linking -- with or without "fair use" excerpts -- could be legally defined as "piracy" or "copyright infringement." And even if that were not the case, SOPA is also devoid of constitutionally guaranteed due process.

So I'll suck it up, dedicate the 18 hours to working on my other projects, and will see you on the other side.


rocktivity

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
66. I am so proud to be a member here tonight
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:10 PM
Jan 2012

It's the right call I think.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
67. Great! (Although I'll miss DU) n/t
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:10 PM
Jan 2012

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
68. Thank you for your support!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:10 PM
Jan 2012


It will be a good time for me to contact my congress critters to complain about SOPA and PIPA.

And maybe while this site is black, I'll get something done around the house.

TygrBright

(20,987 posts)
69. This is only the kind of principled action I'd expect from you guys. Thanks. n/t
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:10 PM
Jan 2012

joshcryer

(62,490 posts)
70. Hells yeah.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:12 PM
Jan 2012

highplainsdem

(52,337 posts)
71. Bravo! K&R
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:15 PM
Jan 2012
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
72. Man, is tomorrow gonna suck...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:16 PM
Jan 2012

...it's not like I even have that much real work to do!

BiggJawn

(23,051 posts)
73. I'm with y'all, Skinner!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:17 PM
Jan 2012

Let's make a point that won't be missed.

onestepforward

(3,691 posts)
74. Awesome! Thank you!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:19 PM
Jan 2012

mike_c

(36,332 posts)
75. well done....
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:19 PM
Jan 2012

Thank you.

JBoy

(8,021 posts)
76. Righteous.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:21 PM
Jan 2012

MilesColtrane

(18,678 posts)
77. The unions of the AFL-CIO that represent professionals...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:22 PM
Jan 2012
...in the Arts, Entertainment and Media Industries (AEMI) include Actors’ Equity Association (AEA), the American Federation of Musicians (AFM), the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (AFTRA), the American Guild of Musical Artists (AGMA), the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employes, Moving Picture Technicians, Artists and Allied Crafts (IATSE), the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW), the Office and Professional Employees International Union (OPEIU), the Screen Actors Guild (SAG) and the Writers Guild of America, East (WGAE) are wholly in support of the widest possible access to content on the Internet and the principles of net neutrality, so long as intellectual property rights—and the hundreds of thousands of jobs that are at stake—are respected.

Some would like to portray the debate over Internet theft as one in which a few wealthy artists, creators and powerful corporations are concerned about “giving away” their “product” because they are greedy and cannot change with the times to create new business models. The hundreds of thousands of people represented by the AEMI unions of the AFL-CIO are a testament to the falsity of that proposition.

Online theft and the sale of illegal CDs and DVDs are not “victimless crimes.” Digital theft costs jobs and benefits. It is critical, at this important moment in the evolution of the Internet and potential Internet policy, for union members and leaders to publicly and visibly engage in a sustained effort to protect members’ livelihoods, the creation and innovation that are the hallmark of their work and the economic health and viability of the creative industries in this country. The AEMI unions and other unions in U.S. entertainment stress that pirated content is devastating to the entertainment professionals who create the underlying works.

The AFL-CIO strongly supports the efforts of the AEMI unions and the Department for Professional Employees, AFL-CIO, to combat piracy. It commends their work with government and industry to develop workable solutions to protect the interests of their members. The AFL-CIO urges its affiliate unions to educate their members about the adverse impact of piracy; to support efforts to ensure that government officials and lawmakers are aware of, and support the protection of, entertainment industry jobs that will be lost to online theft; to encourage their members to respect copyright law; and to urge their members, as a matter of union solidarity, to never illegally download or stream pirated content or purchase illegal CDs and DVDs.


http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/Almeida%2011162011.pdf

EarlG

(22,540 posts)
85. Opposing SOPA and PIPA isn't about supporting piracy
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:35 PM
Jan 2012

These are bad bills that if passed could have extremely dire ramifications for the entire Internet.

Together, Fair Use and Safe Harbors allow for innovation because they create safe space for both free expression and honest mistakes. But content providers hate Fair Use and (more importantly) Safe Harbors because providers think these exceptions take the teeth out of enforcement, creating loopholes you could drive a truck through.

SOPA/PIPA gets rid of Safe Harbors. There is no safe space. A copyright holder can initiate a "private right of action", convince a judge to issue an injunction (which we now know is way too easy to do) get your domain blocked, your advertising pulled and your finances frozen.

And thanks to to SOPA/PIPA's immunity provisions, a copyright holder wouldn't even need a court order shut you down, just a letter to your service providers threatening to.

Much more: http://veniceforchange.blogspot.com/2012/01/confessions-of-hollywood-professional.html?spref=tw

MilesColtrane

(18,678 posts)
86. You gotta do what you gotta do.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:38 PM
Jan 2012

So do I.

I stand with my union.

joshcryer

(62,490 posts)
107. Why Unions Should Not Support SOPA
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:01 AM
Jan 2012
http://www.pbs.org/idealab/2012/01/why-unions-should-not-support-sopa011.html

If I was with a union that supported SOPA I would register my misgivings, not unquestioningly support them.

Muskypundit

(717 posts)
78. Solidarity
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:25 PM
Jan 2012

man4allcats

(4,026 posts)
79. K & R!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:26 PM
Jan 2012

Thanks for standing up!

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
80. Glad to hear it...........
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:28 PM
Jan 2012

Bring on the light through the darkness

2Design

(9,099 posts)
81. how does one make their site go dark if Wordpress - don't want to mess it up
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:31 PM
Jan 2012

cry baby

(6,775 posts)
82. Wrote to reps. Proud of your decision! Nt
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:33 PM
Jan 2012
 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
83. Very cool!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:35 PM
Jan 2012


K and R

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
87. AND be sure to send a THANK YOU note to President Obama too :)
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:38 PM
Jan 2012

The White House Labels SOPA Censorship And Refuses To Support It

http://www.politicususa.com/en/obama-opposes-sopa


 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
132. He won't sign SOPA.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 01:02 AM
Jan 2012

Like he won't sign NDAA, more "free" trade agreements...

donheld

(21,317 posts)
88. You have my complete support in this move!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:39 PM
Jan 2012
 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
89. Good
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:39 PM
Jan 2012

Why Syzygy

(18,928 posts)
91. Bravo
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:43 PM
Jan 2012

Stand with you 100%.

CC

(8,039 posts)
92. Glad to hear it. n/t
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:44 PM
Jan 2012




 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
93. Understood.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:47 PM
Jan 2012

CherokeeDem

(3,718 posts)
94. Great move!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:47 PM
Jan 2012

Proud that DU is taking a stand.

Dragonbreathp9d

(2,542 posts)
95. While I may not like it nor see it necessary I agree and support 2000%
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:47 PM
Jan 2012

Good move loved ones

 

Blacksheep214

(877 posts)
97. United We Stand!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:51 PM
Jan 2012

Let's put the downtime to good use!

Later!

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
98. I wondered why we were not joining the protest. Glad to be part of this.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:52 PM
Jan 2012

kas125

(2,472 posts)
100. Thank you!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:54 PM
Jan 2012

alp227

(32,459 posts)
101. Good night then! Without DU and Wikipedia,
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:54 PM
Jan 2012

I'll have time to go to the library and study SolidWorks then bookmark links for posting tomorrow evening.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
102. Good on you, guys
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:55 PM
Jan 2012

I support this all the way. This is an important fight.

applegrove

(123,112 posts)
103. Whatever you do we will follow. You are great leaders.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:56 PM
Jan 2012

Change has come

(2,372 posts)
104. Beautiful!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:57 PM
Jan 2012

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
105. Thumbs up. n/t
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:58 PM
Jan 2012

Smilo

(1,950 posts)
106. Thank you for standing
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:59 PM
Jan 2012

up against those that would use SOPA and PIPA as an excuse to stifle free speech.


dmr

(28,645 posts)
108. Solidarity
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:02 AM
Jan 2012


 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
109. Good idea.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:05 AM
Jan 2012

Thanks for doing this.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
110. K/R (nt)
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:10 AM
Jan 2012

:kick:

bigtree

(90,141 posts)
111. well, you got my attention
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:13 AM
Jan 2012

I'll look to see the extent of the protests and the impact tomorrow in the other media. Best wishes . . .

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
112. So proud to be a part of DU!
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:18 AM
Jan 2012

tinymontgomery

(2,649 posts)
113. Withdraw will be unbearable
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:18 AM
Jan 2012

Total support. Will there be a support group somewhere I can go to?

Rhiannon12866

(222,072 posts)
145. There actually is a support group! LOL.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 02:03 AM
Jan 2012

Don't know if you're familiar with it, but the DU Panic Room has been where members could always get info if DU is down. It's been awhile, but it still looks viable to me...

http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/DUPanicRoom/

tinymontgomery

(2,649 posts)
163. Thanks,
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:20 PM
Jan 2012

found you post after DU went dark. Will book mark for future. Thanks again.

Rhiannon12866

(222,072 posts)
165. Well, there wasn't much there when I checked it last night
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 11:03 PM
Jan 2012

But it was awfully late. Someone posted the notice that DU was going dark, good idea for those who might not have seen the announcement. I was afraid you might not have seen it in time, but at least we now know it's still active.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
114. Bravo!
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:19 AM
Jan 2012

murphyj87

(649 posts)
115. Also include
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:20 AM
Jan 2012

Canadian Bill C-11 analogous to SOPA in the US.

nolabear

(43,215 posts)
116. Solidarity.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:22 AM
Jan 2012

tawadi

(2,110 posts)
117. k&r
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:24 AM
Jan 2012

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
118. I am so fucking proud of us
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:26 AM
Jan 2012

Woot. Thanks for joining in on this one, guys!

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
119. Hellz Yeah!
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:32 AM
Jan 2012

spin

(17,493 posts)
120. Good!!!!! It's better to shut down for a few hours than to be shut down in the future. (n/t)
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:32 AM
Jan 2012

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
121. Looks like Google.com is staying up, they're only blacking out their logo. n/t
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:33 AM
Jan 2012
 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
124. What a load of crap.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:38 AM
Jan 2012

Capitalocracy

(4,307 posts)
131. You wouldn't actually expect them to lose market share to Bing and Yahoo...
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 01:01 AM
Jan 2012

for something as silly as actually standing up for something.

But in all honesty, it will still raise awareness.

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
122. Good for DU!
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:37 AM
Jan 2012
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
123. Bravo!
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:37 AM
Jan 2012

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
126. Bravo.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:41 AM
Jan 2012

PETRUS

(3,678 posts)
127. Thanks
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:42 AM
Jan 2012

I'll miss y'all, even for just a day.

denbot

(9,912 posts)
128. Right on!!
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:56 AM
Jan 2012

Hmm.. what to do?

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
129. K&R
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:58 AM
Jan 2012
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
130. I am stunned. In a good way!
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 01:00 AM
Jan 2012

Be tough.

Digit

(6,163 posts)
133. Way to go!
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 01:13 AM
Jan 2012

I am glad DU is doing this.

The Genealogist

(4,736 posts)
134. I fully support this protest
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 01:15 AM
Jan 2012

I thank the administrators for choosing to protest in this manner!

xocet

(3,943 posts)
135. Excellent. n/t
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 01:20 AM
Jan 2012
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
136. Right decision, guys...
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 01:21 AM
Jan 2012
Bravo for taking a principled stand and showing solidarity. The next 18 hours will be tough, though. SG

Kablooie

(18,769 posts)
137. Get some rest while you're at it.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 01:25 AM
Jan 2012

Good luck guys.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
138. K&r Stand for something or step aside. Kudos...... n/t
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 01:28 AM
Jan 2012

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
139. It's gotta be done, then so be it.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 01:32 AM
Jan 2012

bermudat

(1,329 posts)
140. I'll really be productive at work tomorrow.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 01:40 AM
Jan 2012

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
141. I'm behind you 100%!
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 01:40 AM
Jan 2012
SOPA MUST DIE!!!

LibertyorDeath

(9,295 posts)
142. Excellent!
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 01:41 AM
Jan 2012

Thank You!

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
143. That's gonna hurt
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 01:51 AM
Jan 2012

but in a good way

usregimechange

(18,493 posts)
144. I fully endorse this action
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 02:02 AM
Jan 2012

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
146. K&R for free speech!
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 02:09 AM
Jan 2012

ellisonz

(27,739 posts)
147. Sounds good. n/t
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 02:10 AM
Jan 2012

Dead_Parrot

(14,478 posts)
149. I'll finally get around to cleaning out the garage.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 02:43 AM
Jan 2012

I hate you. But, my wife thinks you're awesome.

Tuesday_Morning

(1,704 posts)
150. a great big fat
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 02:45 AM
Jan 2012

THANK YOU!

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
151. To Skinner, and all the other admins......You have our complete support. =)
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 02:49 AM
Jan 2012

I'll be logging out of here not long after 2:00(Central). Hope this works out for us.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
152. Agree with you and support this action
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 02:49 AM
Jan 2012

K&R

Capitalocracy

(4,307 posts)
153. 200th rec, less than 10 minutes to go. See you guys in 18 hours!
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 02:53 AM
Jan 2012

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
154. See you in 24 hours my friends. I am personally going dark as well.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 02:58 AM
Jan 2012

The Wielding Truth

(11,421 posts)
155. Yay! DU is back!
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 09:02 PM
Jan 2012

Papagoose

(428 posts)
156. Welcome back DU!
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 09:02 PM
Jan 2012

Now that I've numbed my fingers from writing scads of emails to Congress and calling the Capitol until I could talk no more, it's good to have DU back.

 

Wistful Vista

(136 posts)
158. Same here. I really think DU and many other sites will kill off this vile critter!
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 09:04 PM
Jan 2012

Maven

(10,533 posts)
157. OMG. I GOT THE SHAKES FROM WITHDRAWL
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 09:04 PM
Jan 2012

Capitalocracy

(4,307 posts)
160. *Crawling in gasping for air*
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 09:07 PM
Jan 2012

DU! *gasp* DU!

cstanleytech

(27,000 posts)
159. I am not sure how much of a success the effort was.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 09:05 PM
Jan 2012

It seems like the media in general gave the event little to no coverage or atleast thats my opinion.

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
161. good job
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 09:10 PM
Jan 2012

Glad to hear it, also Google has joined the protest.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
162. I really like associating myself with this community
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:07 PM
Jan 2012

Ethics. I like them.

Thanks for walking the talk, Admins

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
164. Wow! I survived it!
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:55 PM
Jan 2012

Hung out on imvu all day! But, I did manage to get three friends to sign the petition!

FailureToCommunicate

(14,322 posts)
166. It felt like the paperboy AND the milkman skipped delivery...
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 09:00 AM
Jan 2012

(Yes I remember them. Least I didn't say the ice man or the coal truck!)

Writing and phoning to Congress critters always seems as useful as putting a message in a bottle and tossing it into the ocean. But we do it anyway, cause here in the US we have democracy, right?


Thanks David, Dave and Brian, et alia, for solidarity.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
167. Very proud moment for DU
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 03:15 PM
Jan 2012

Nice to see an organization taking a stand based on integrity.

Kudos to DU! Wow!!

TBF

(34,286 posts)
168. I finally have clean carpets.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 04:21 PM
Jan 2012

All in all a good day. Thank you for protesting - I did read on Forbes (while DU was down) that Pres Obama is also opposing those bills in their current form. I was very happy to hear that.

 

slay

(7,670 posts)
169. I am EXTREMELY proud of DU and the admins for doing this
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 02:33 AM
Jan 2012

this is a badge of honor - to have been on the side of a free internet - one of THE most worthy causes these days in the way it will shape the entire future - that's what is at stake with SOPA. Bravo DU, Skinner, Elad, and EarlG. This is STILL more important to the future than most people can even comprehend

 

sumi12

(13 posts)
170. Democratic Underground will go dark at 3am ET January 18 to protest SOPA and PIPA
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 01:36 AM
Jan 2012

SOPA(Stop Online Privacy Act) is good rules but now a days internet is one of the most important part of Human life. So i think it can be change.

 

sumi12

(13 posts)
171. Democratic Underground will go dark at 3am ET January 18 to protest SOPA and PIPA
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 12:50 AM
Jan 2012

But it was awfully late. Someone posted the notice that DU was going dark, good idea for those who might not have seen the announcement. I was afraid you might not have seen it in time, but at least we now know it's still active

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