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limbicnuminousity

(1,410 posts)
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 03:58 PM Jan 2024

'God's Army' trucker convoy heading to southern border on 'biblical' anti-migrant crusade

Source: Raw Story

A trucker convoy heading down to the southern border is using apocalyptic rhetoric to describe its desire to hunt down migrants illegally entering the United States.

Vice reports that the convoy, which is calling itself "God's Army," is launching a campaign called "Take Our Border Back" to drive undocumented immigrants and asylum seekers out of the country.

The group's desire for drastic actions was recently heightened after the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government could remove razor wire at Eagle Pass, where a migrant woman and two children drowned while trying to cross the border.

"These latest developments have aroused civil war fantasies on fringe forums, as well as on the social media accounts of GOP lawmakers and right-wing political commentators," reports Vice. "And this all means that the border convoy is garnering more interest than it might have done a couple of weeks ago. The convoy’s crowdfunder on GiveSendGo has raked in more than $30,000 just this week, totaling nearly $50,000 by Friday morning."

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/army-of-god-trucker-convoy-heads-to-southern-border/



The window for addressing this situation with minimal conflict is rapidly narrowing, imho.
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'God's Army' trucker convoy heading to southern border on 'biblical' anti-migrant crusade (Original Post) limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 OP
More God means more dead. Traildogbob Jan 2024 #1
Lower fuel prices Roy Rolling Jan 2024 #56
$2.58 per gallon Traildogbob Jan 2024 #61
As it says in the bible: throw the stranger among you out of. . . Oh, wait marybourg Jan 2024 #2
Do they even realize that the "guy" they claim to worship.... lastlib Jan 2024 #19
Hell most of them don't even realize BlueKota Jan 2024 #42
Blessed are the hypocrites whose hatred and thirst for carnage shall be slaked RVN VET71 Jan 2024 #59
They're functionally illiterate at reading their supposed scripture AdamGG Jan 2024 #86
What the Bible really says: Dulcinea Jan 2024 #57
Oh, they don't read it. byronius Jan 2024 #74
Oh, please. "addressing this situation with minimal conflict?" PSPS Jan 2024 #3
Clarification limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #6
Be careful with the truckers, they are a tough bunch of Gravy Seals. LastDemocratInSC Jan 2024 #67
You, person on DU gay texan Jan 2024 #102
Some are also reportedly from the 101ST Chairborne maxrandb Jan 2024 #104
Pete Chambers, a lieutenant colonel organizing the group, has claimed he was a Green Beret. pazzyanne Jan 2024 #64
Right, we took out ISIS with the help of the Kurds, then louis-t Jan 2024 #82
Easily the worst thing we've done in the Middle East in.... EarnestPutz Jan 2024 #92
Exactly! pazzyanne Jan 2024 #108
And what do they mean to do when they get to the border? Lonestarblue Jan 2024 #4
I sense violence and fear for asylum seekers and migrants duhneece Jan 2024 #5
along with intimidating other individuals DBoon Jan 2024 #77
If the real Jesus appeared and told them they were wrong kimbutgar Jan 2024 #7
Yes they would Seinan Sensei Jan 2024 #8
Not just a Jew SCantiGOP Jan 2024 #14
"What'd he say his name was? Hey-suus?" NickB79 Jan 2024 #20
... orangecrush Jan 2024 #48
this thank you!!!!!! this gets me really upset with the idiots. AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #70
Oh boy, vigilantes central scrutinizer Jan 2024 #9
I wish these SOBs GAJMac Jan 2024 #10
I'd settle for their taking a wrong turn into New Mexico Warpy Jan 2024 #13
It's not "your" border, assholes. dchill Jan 2024 #11
Right. What if, in 1492, Native Americans had "convoyed" to the East Coast Seinan Sensei Jan 2024 #51
I am of the firm opinion that the Americans shouldn't have ever welcomed the white man to their shores ArkansasDemocrat1 Jan 2024 #96
Guess they never heard the phrase "all God's children." Vinca Jan 2024 #12
Highway to hell? sarisataka Jan 2024 #15
Ezekiel 16:49 markodochartaigh Jan 2024 #34
Nobody wants to work any more. nt Hotler Jan 2024 #114
Welcome to DU orangecrush Jan 2024 #16
Yup. Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #73
Yikes! ShazzieB Jan 2024 #17
These people would assault or kill people with any skin color below they think is "white" sakabatou Jan 2024 #18
Some truckers will get knifed by immigrants Captain Zero Jan 2024 #58
Biden needs to federalize the national guard NOW Novara Jan 2024 #21
Are the "bikers" coming as well. BlueNIndiana Jan 2024 #22
... and The Lord said, "Let those without proper documentation ... surrealAmerican Jan 2024 #23
I need to think of a scam like that Red Mountain Jan 2024 #24
Would have loved to have seen them organize like that for the BLM protests. limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #25
How about my organization Wonder Why Jan 2024 #69
The rightwing view of their "sky god" is disgusting. These people are mentally ill. walkingman Jan 2024 #26
No I_UndergroundPanther Jan 2024 #53
Calling them "mentally ill" is a copout John Shaft Jan 2024 #62
Yep. Their church has a John 3:16 sign outside ArkansasDemocrat1 Jan 2024 #98
Sticking with gullible fools and in some cases, unfortunate anger management issues? Brainfodder Jan 2024 #76
Mose's migration is similar to what these immigrants are undergoing, and they are simply trying to find good, SWBTATTReg Jan 2024 #27
What a documentary this would make n/t tom_kelly Jan 2024 #28
Tell them to keep going south until they get stuck at the Panama Canal Wonder Why Jan 2024 #29
Here is their plan: LeftInTX Jan 2024 #30
Don't they know New Mexico Mr.Bill Jan 2024 #37
Let the Busch Light and Meth Flow John Shaft Jan 2024 #63
Why would God need an army. God. twodogsbarking Jan 2024 #31
Kirk has a question ArkansasDemocrat1 Jan 2024 #94
Rescue........911 twodogsbarking Jan 2024 #105
I think its a scam ... reACTIONary Jan 2024 #32
And what do these racist hillbilly morons expect they are going to do? nwduke Jan 2024 #33
Just what Texas needs... Rizen Jan 2024 #35
Coming soon to a border near you... Mr.Bill Jan 2024 #36
Let's see... OldBaldy1701E Jan 2024 #38
The Apache is armed with a 30 mm chain gun FWIW Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2024 #40
Heh... shows how old I am... (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jan 2024 #45
Somewhere along an isolated stretch of I-10 beneath a sweltering sun (some day) limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #79
Jesus was a migrant refugee Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2024 #39
He also admonished us to "welcome the stranger" dflprincess Jan 2024 #41
I think I know how this is going to go. jmowreader Jan 2024 #43
Not likely.... AZ8theist Jan 2024 #88
Give it a couple of days GenThePerservering Jan 2024 #44
HA HA HA! They have a waiver and release you have to sign GenThePerservering Jan 2024 #46
"God's Army" sure seems completely unfamiliar with God's word on the subject of how they're supposed to treat immigrants summer_in_TX Jan 2024 #47
I suspect some American citizens (Who don't look like Ken or Barbie) ..are going to get hurt. chouchou Jan 2024 #49
Have Joe... myohmy2 Jan 2024 #50
Those 3 batshit TX billionaires are likely behind this. Many billionaires like to manipulate Christians & wouldn't be ancianita Jan 2024 #52
Don't these idiots have anything to do, like you know... haul cargo? kysrsoze Jan 2024 #54
Shouldn't they be heading to the GOP Old Crank Jan 2024 #55
Yeah. who wants to tell them? n/t mercuryblues Jan 2024 #60
The economy must be booming for them to be able to waste time and money pulling this stunt. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2024 #65
God's Army? Maybe they ought to review their Bibles! Vogon_Glory Jan 2024 #66
I'd love to see a couple fly by planes with quotes from Jesus Maraya1969 Jan 2024 #68
Vice is free. Rawstory is reposting a Vice article IronLionZion Jan 2024 #71
Sounds like a dreaded caravan. Sneederbunk Jan 2024 #72
Yeah, about that. The actual Telegram page organizing it has 1600 followers. How many of those have trucks? Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #75
Just more of the same old clown show. Think. Again. Jan 2024 #78
This 'God's Army' wants to kill the poor and hungry KS Toronado Jan 2024 #80
$30000-$50000 ain't squat JoyBugaloo Jan 2024 #81
I can't see this ending well. CanonRay Jan 2024 #83
How very "Christian" of them momta Jan 2024 #84
Very "Christian" keithbvadu2 Jan 2024 #87
Don't forget the hazardous material placards. SarahD Jan 2024 #85
Try these Bible verses bernieb Jan 2024 #89
Have you noticed just how many Bible verses there Vogon_Glory Jan 2024 #109
Yeah, God always hated refugees. Like the way he hated the Jews. Oh, wait, he didn't hate them., he loved them. Martin68 Jan 2024 #90
Could they pick a more terrorist sounding name? prodigitalson Jan 2024 #91
Not one bit biblical at all. ancianita Jan 2024 #93
and Jesus Himslef says they are all going to Hell azureblue Jan 2024 #95
snork. self appointed viglante AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #97
So far this is all hype, whether by RW media or our own. No images of the "convoy". Unlike previous Trucker Patriots Ford_Prefect Jan 2024 #99
These people are truly fucked in the head. Initech Jan 2024 #100
Pretend "Christians" strike again. mwb970 Jan 2024 #101
and once they get down there..... William Gustafson Jan 2024 #103
Ever meet any long haul truck drivers? BlueIdaho Jan 2024 #106
These have to be truck owners n/t TexasBushwhacker Jan 2024 #113
Cartel joedogs Jan 2024 #107
The Egyptian Pharaoh pursued Jewish refugees with chariots. I guess this is the modern version. Martin68 Jan 2024 #110
Which god's The Wizard Jan 2024 #111
Bibical on the sense that they are a horde of locusts relayerbob Jan 2024 #112

Roy Rolling

(7,246 posts)
56. Lower fuel prices
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 06:00 AM
Jan 2024

The Gawd-Awful Truckers can thank Joe. They were stuck on stupid under Trump’s petroleum price spikes.

Traildogbob

(10,416 posts)
61. $2.58 per gallon
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 08:37 AM
Jan 2024

In WNC now. Diesel is $3.68. And we are as far away from distribution hubs as you can be. A dozen free range organic eggs, $3.10.
The horror😱
Latino workers in construction, roofs, landscaping and apple orchards are the only ones out there in the area. Yards crews are in the multiple dozens and every one works their asses off and do perfect work.
But working class AmurKKKans just ain’t feeling it at their kitchen tables.
And this is in Meadows and Cawthorn’s district, with trump flags everywhere. All hero’s to these benefactors of prices and Latino workers.
But “God Guns and Guts” are the most popular tee shirts and hats, MAGA wear second.

lastlib

(25,138 posts)
19. Do they even realize that the "guy" they claim to worship....
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 06:02 PM
Jan 2024

FLED HIS HOME to another country?

I guess irony is wasted on the stupid...........

BlueKota

(3,790 posts)
42. Hell most of them don't even realize
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 10:50 PM
Jan 2024

that in all probability many of their parents, grandparents, or great grandparents were once immigrants fleeing from famine, poverty, dictators and war.

They themselves wouldn't be here, if many of the harsh policies they're demanding now would have been in place when their families first came here. My ancestors came from Ireland and Italy, and I wouldn't even be alive if they had been refused entry because there were a number of Irish-Italian marriages in my family, and if they hadn't been in the U.S. they likely would have never met. I never forget that or take it for granted.

RVN VET71

(2,809 posts)
59. Blessed are the hypocrites whose hatred and thirst for carnage shall be slaked
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 08:18 AM
Jan 2024

For theirs is the kingdom of hell.

(At least one would hope so.)

AdamGG

(1,550 posts)
86. They're functionally illiterate at reading their supposed scripture
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 01:15 PM
Jan 2024

...and probably nearly everything else.

Dulcinea

(7,726 posts)
57. What the Bible really says:
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 06:05 AM
Jan 2024

You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God. (Leviticus 19:34)

byronius

(7,652 posts)
74. Oh, they don't read it.
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 11:25 AM
Jan 2024

Just feel it, based on stuff their racist grandpa once told ‘em.

“Reading is for chumps” he used to say, in his wise old klansman tone.

PSPS

(14,259 posts)
3. Oh, please. "addressing this situation with minimal conflict?"
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 04:06 PM
Jan 2024

What "conflict?" Do you mean the traffic jams because of the trucks and the slavering MSM convoy of "live from the scene" camera trucks on their motorized cletus safaris dutifully following their every move for clicks/ratings/outrage?

limbicnuminousity

(1,410 posts)
6. Clarification
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 04:21 PM
Jan 2024

The truckers themselves are an annoyance. Their presence merely ratchets up the tension along the border. Are they going to mount an armed trucker rebellion? No, of course not. But is has the potential to complicate a de-escalation or resolution to the Greg Abbott/TNG situation.

pazzyanne

(6,639 posts)
64. Pete Chambers, a lieutenant colonel organizing the group, has claimed he was a Green Beret.
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 09:13 AM
Jan 2024

"That's what Green Berets do. Unconventional warfare is our bread and butter. Now we're doing domestic internal defense," Chambers said.
"What gets us to the enemy quickly is to find, fix, and finish, exploit, analyze, and disseminate," Chambers said, referring to a military process. "That's what we did in Syria when we took out ISIS really quick."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-convoy-calling-themselves-god-s-army-plans-to-head-to-the-texas-border-to-stop-migrants-from-entering-the-us/ar-BB1hliQG?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=2c00a2a6a5b64a6ab8650ce5c102e4ff&ei=25

louis-t

(23,888 posts)
82. Right, we took out ISIS with the help of the Kurds, then
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 12:46 PM
Jan 2024

orange fat face bozo pulled our troops and gave northern Syria to Erdogan and our military base there to Putin. Erdogan chased the Kurds out of their homeland. So Pete Chambers can stick his green beret right up his ass.

EarnestPutz

(2,731 posts)
92. Easily the worst thing we've done in the Middle East in....
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 03:04 PM
Jan 2024

...recent times. It got very little coverage back then and virtually none since. Just my opinion, but I think it is the nadir of Trump's excreable foreign policy and you re one of the few who seem to remember it.

pazzyanne

(6,639 posts)
108. Exactly!
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 11:32 PM
Jan 2024

I'm still angry about what happened to the Kurds! One more reason to dislike tfg and erdogan! As far as Pete Chambers, the lieutenant colonel who says he was a Green Beret, is nothing but a sleaze ball!

Lonestarblue

(12,140 posts)
4. And what do they mean to do when they get to the border?
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 04:07 PM
Jan 2024

Shooting US border agents is never a good idea.

duhneece

(4,286 posts)
5. I sense violence and fear for asylum seekers and migrants
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 04:11 PM
Jan 2024

We know too many of Trump’s followers are itching for a chance to bully and even kill.
Trump is telling them to go to the border

DBoon

(23,320 posts)
77. along with intimidating other individuals
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 11:37 AM
Jan 2024

I would hope they don't run across graduate students doing field work in desert ecology, for example.

kimbutgar

(23,893 posts)
7. If the real Jesus appeared and told them they were wrong
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 04:27 PM
Jan 2024

These a holes would probably want to shoot the brown skinned Jewish man!

NickB79

(19,720 posts)
20. "What'd he say his name was? Hey-suus?"
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 06:07 PM
Jan 2024

"It's one of those goddamn Mexicans! Get him, boys!"

GAJMac

(236 posts)
10. I wish these SOBs
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 05:09 PM
Jan 2024

Would get what they are begging for. A real war against just them where they find out that their "God" doesn't block bullets, missiles, and bombs. Let them SEE their "brothers in Christ" blown up with pieces spread all around. They'd wet their goddamned pants.

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
13. I'd settle for their taking a wrong turn into New Mexico
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 05:20 PM
Jan 2024

Officials here aren't particularly impressed by the god of assisted living and would most likely confiscate the rigs of any asshole who tried to block the interstate or a border crossing.

The god of assisted living is the one who needs a bunch of ignorant mediocre males to do all his work for him, he can't do a thing for himself.

Oh, they could get their rigs back once they paid the towing fee, impound fee, lot rent fee, and traffic fines. The god of assisted living won't do that for them, either.

Seinan Sensei

(791 posts)
51. Right. What if, in 1492, Native Americans had "convoyed" to the East Coast
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 02:02 AM
Jan 2024

And then and there they took a notion
And kicked Columbus back to the ocean

"Damn people of no color"

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
96. I am of the firm opinion that the Americans shouldn't have ever welcomed the white man to their shores
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 04:10 PM
Jan 2024

Human wave attacks to wipe Pizarro, deSoto and Columbus out on the beach would have been less costly in lives

sarisataka

(21,425 posts)
15. Highway to hell?
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 05:32 PM
Jan 2024

Matthew 25:

44Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or as a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?’ 45Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it for one of the least of these, you did not do it for Me, either.’ 46These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

markodochartaigh

(2,221 posts)
34. Ezekiel 16:49
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 08:25 PM
Jan 2024

49 Behold this was the iniquity of Sodom thy sister, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance, and the idleness of her, and of her daughters: and they did not put forth their hand to the needy, and to the poor.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
21. Biden needs to federalize the national guard NOW
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 06:12 PM
Jan 2024

So Americans are going to fight Federal forces now? Um, isn't that called an insurrection?

This shit is reminding me of the Bundy fiasco where Obama did nothing. It only emboldened this faction of assholes.

surrealAmerican

(11,528 posts)
23. ... and The Lord said, "Let those without proper documentation ...
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 06:28 PM
Jan 2024

... be cast out from my lands, and should they not leave voluntarily, my people will deal harshly with them."


If this is not heresy, there is something seriously wrong with your religion.

Wonder Why

(4,836 posts)
69. How about my organization
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 10:09 AM
Jan 2024

"Kill a Commie for Christ". Of course I get 50% of the take. Putey is exempt because our right wing nuts support our leader Donnie's boss.

 

John Shaft

(808 posts)
62. Calling them "mentally ill" is a copout
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 09:10 AM
Jan 2024

These people know what they are doing. They are cognizant of and therefore responsible for their actions. They have control over what they are doing. They just choose the path of evil and racism.

This who they are, no need to explain it away as if they have a mental health problem that has to be treated with medical science.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
98. Yep. Their church has a John 3:16 sign outside
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 04:21 PM
Jan 2024

While they say to their preacher that Jesus is too 'woke' and when can they start killing us.

Hypocrites get their own level of Hell according to Dante'

Brainfodder

(7,181 posts)
76. Sticking with gullible fools and in some cases, unfortunate anger management issues?
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 11:31 AM
Jan 2024

Riled up by the abu$ive Republican leadership on a con$tant ba$i$?

If only there was a clue to the leader$hip motive$.

$o puzzling!

NOT!

SWBTATTReg

(24,604 posts)
27. Mose's migration is similar to what these immigrants are undergoing, and they are simply trying to find good,
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 07:31 PM
Jan 2024

decent homes for their families too. Sure, some of them may be illegals, but there is a path forward on this issue too, that they can be 'legal' too, eventually.

These conveys, and those such as "God's Army" are nothing what God, IMHO, visualized, for these poor, hungry, homeless migrants. I'm almost embarrassed for the statue of Liberty located in NY to be here any longer. After all, we all are immigrants too (for the most part, our native sons, our Indian friends were here long before all of us).

Maybe sanity will come soon, but I wonder sometimes about the hate and such, inspired by tRUMP and his ilk.

Mr.Bill

(24,905 posts)
37. Don't they know New Mexico
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 09:44 PM
Jan 2024

is also on the border? They probably think it's part of Mexico.

nwduke

(375 posts)
33. And what do these racist hillbilly morons expect they are going to do?
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 08:18 PM
Jan 2024

Drive around and pick up every brown person they see walking on the road?

OldBaldy1701E

(6,949 posts)
38. Let's see...
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 09:54 PM
Jan 2024

However many truckers itching for a fight so they can wave their metal penises around.

(I am guessing three should do it.) Three Apaches with 20mm Vulcans using 3d imaging and sighting.

Locate the convoy on a barren stretch of road. (No houses for miles, and no other vehicles around.) Say three minutes tops.

No more problem.

And, there would be zero casualties. Just several piles of scrap metal with dazed beerguts sitting in the middle. Possibly holding a steering wheel. Now that is if they don't do something monumental... like try to return fire... because that would not go well for any of them.

(Yes, today's military aircraft can literally remove the vehicle out from under you if they so desire. Of course, since there will only be a bunch of sunburnt rednecks whining about being shot up from 'somewhere' and since there will be no evidence (that will be made sure of), the next group of half drunk idiots will remember what happened. Regardless of who they might want to blame it on, they WILL remember. But, this is just my opinion on the matter. Except about the Apaches. That part is true.)

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(117,736 posts)
40. The Apache is armed with a 30 mm chain gun FWIW
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 10:09 PM
Jan 2024

The 20 mm is carried on the Cobra which the Army no longer uses but is still used by the Marines.

dflprincess

(28,606 posts)
41. He also admonished us to "welcome the stranger"
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 10:18 PM
Jan 2024

Not that this "army" are familar with anything Jesus taught.

jmowreader

(51,743 posts)
43. I think I know how this is going to go.
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 10:56 PM
Jan 2024

Someone in this convoy is going to die. It’ll probably be by traffic accident but someone is going to die.

MTG will file articles of impeachment against President Biden for not doing enough to…well, make sure Private Schmuckatelli of God’s Army knew how to drive a 12-foot-high top heavy RV on soft sand.

Trump will use this traffic accident to make 500 attack ads.

The right wing media will talk about this incessantly.

Trump will still lose the election, and he’ll still send 5000 people to attack the Capitol on 1-6-25.

AZ8theist

(6,619 posts)
88. Not likely....
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 02:38 PM
Jan 2024

He may urge 5K to go, but they will stop in their tracks a mile away.
There will be an entirely different security set up the next time.

GenThePerservering

(2,675 posts)
44. Give it a couple of days
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 11:03 PM
Jan 2024

they'll get lost. Only one or two roads to where they're going, but they'll get lost.

GenThePerservering

(2,675 posts)
46. HA HA HA! They have a waiver and release you have to sign
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 11:06 PM
Jan 2024

on their tacky website!

Routes are posted, too. Also someone inserted "peaceful assembly" in their logo - it's the wrong font and doesn't really fit so I expect it's an add-in.

Visit incog.

summer_in_TX

(3,398 posts)
47. "God's Army" sure seems completely unfamiliar with God's word on the subject of how they're supposed to treat immigrants
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 12:02 AM
Jan 2024

What will they do when and if they find out?

"The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God."
Leviticus 19:34

"‘Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.’ Then all the people shall say, ‘Amen!’"
Deuteronomy 27:19

"For if you truly amend your ways and your doings, if you truly act justly one with another, if you do not oppress the alien, the orphan, and the widow, or shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not go after other gods to your own hurt, then I will dwell with you in this place, in the land that I gave of old to your ancestors forever and ever."
Jeremiah 7:5-7

"You shall allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the aliens who reside among you and have begotten children among you. They shall be to you as citizens of Israel; with you they shall be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel."
Ezekiel 47:22

"Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another."
Zechariah 7 -10

chouchou

(1,537 posts)
49. I suspect some American citizens (Who don't look like Ken or Barbie) ..are going to get hurt.
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 01:03 AM
Jan 2024

Trump makes everything worse.

myohmy2

(3,572 posts)
50. Have Joe...
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 02:00 AM
Jan 2024

...send our military to meet God's Army and send them back to God where they belong...

...

ancianita

(39,223 posts)
52. Those 3 batshit TX billionaires are likely behind this. Many billionaires like to manipulate Christians & wouldn't be
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 02:29 AM
Jan 2024
caught dead reading the Bible.

The Houston Chronicle on Dan Wilks, Ferris Wilks, of Cisco, TX, and Tim Dunn of Midland


National notoriety will again fall on Cisco if Texas voters — Republican, Democrat and independent — don’t get engaged with their democracy sometime soon. The little town is home to the Wilks brothers, Dan and Farris, oil and fracking billionaires who, by playing Santa Claus to Republican officeholders receptive to far-right extremists, are on a mission to transform Texas into a Christian nationalist state. Their efforts, in conjunction with an even more influential West Texas oil billionaire, Tim Dunn of Midland, was on insidious display during the recent impeachment trial of the most corrupt state attorney general in America.


https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/dunn-wilks-paxton-texas-theocracy-democracy-18380689.php

Re immigrants:
Romans 12:13 Contribute to the needs of the saints; extend hospitality to strangers.

Re Trump:
Matthew 24:5 Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled....

kysrsoze

(6,201 posts)
54. Don't these idiots have anything to do, like you know... haul cargo?
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 02:43 AM
Jan 2024

They seem to have ample time to sit around waiting for a chance to drive somewhere and have a public hissy fit.

Vogon_Glory

(9,645 posts)
66. God's Army? Maybe they ought to review their Bibles!
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 09:25 AM
Jan 2024

These people’s actions are not only disgusting but run counter to what’s in the Bible. If there’s a Hell, these guys are risking damnation.

Ezekiel Chapter 16 verses 49 and 50 are rather explicit as to why the Big Guy flamed Sodom. It wasn’t because of “hommasexshuls”, but because He was steamed about their selfishness and their hostility towards migrants and the poor.


Other verses:

Exodus 22:21

Exodus 23, verse 9

Leviticus 19: 33, 34

Ezekiel 47: 22, 23

Deuteronomy 24: 14-15, 17

(Don’t take my word for it, look it up at the sources yourselves).


I would add that the right-wing religious reactionaries who’ve climbed onto the immigrant-bashing bandwagon are tip-toeing around these very explicit verses and trying to ignore them.



Maraya1969

(23,089 posts)
68. I'd love to see a couple fly by planes with quotes from Jesus
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 09:54 AM
Jan 2024

and how you are to treat the foreigner being pulled behind.

IronLionZion

(47,315 posts)
71. Vice is free. Rawstory is reposting a Vice article
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 11:12 AM
Jan 2024
https://www.vice.com/en/article/5d9adk/trucker-convoy-eagle-pass-texas-border-dispute-christian-nationalism

On a related note, all this talk of religious missions and convoys of trucks to do God's work sounds a lot like Taliban.

Experts say that the Christian nationalist overtones in this rhetoric adds a dangerous dimension to an already fraught situation.

“When people believe that they are working on behalf of God, they might be willing to resort to relatively extreme measures,” said Ruth Braunstein, assistant professor of sociology at the University of Connecticut and author of “Prophets and Patriots: Faith in Democracy Across the Political Divide.” ”And so you have a politically volatile situation that could become much more so, in part because of this rhetoric.”


Scrivener7

(53,674 posts)
75. Yeah, about that. The actual Telegram page organizing it has 1600 followers. How many of those have trucks?
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 11:28 AM
Jan 2024

How many of them have trucks and can get the time off? How many of them have trucks and can get the time off and have the money to waste on trucking across the country without a specific goal?

I'll wait before I let specious media reports make me hysterical about this one.

KS Toronado

(20,117 posts)
80. This 'God's Army' wants to kill the poor and hungry
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 11:55 AM
Jan 2024

not feed and clothe them like Jesus instructed us to do. Maybe we should have billboards along
highways close to the border that read........I never said to kill the poor & hungry, with a picture
of Jesus.

JoyBugaloo

(99 posts)
81. $30000-$50000 ain't squat
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 12:04 PM
Jan 2024

Are these trucks big rigs? Pick 'em ups? RV's?

Who are these "truckers"

Any professional driver I know doesn't want to lose the otr hours for such nonsense.

Owner operators? Probably not, being that they have to carry around $1M per truck in insurance just to operate - doubtful they would want to lose the time on the road, not make a payment and put their entire operation in jeopardy.

Who are these "drivers" that have access to vehicles and can afford to come off the road to hoot an' holler in a parade?

Who is really paying for all of this?

 

SarahD

(1,732 posts)
85. Don't forget the hazardous material placards.
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 12:57 PM
Jan 2024

Vitriolic hatred is either explosive or caustic, I forget which.

bernieb

(77 posts)
89. Try these Bible verses
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 02:48 PM
Jan 2024

Deuteronomy 10:19:"You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt."

Matthew 25:35: "For I was hungry and you gave me food. I was thirsty and you gave me drink. I was a stranger and you invited me in." (This is the chapter about the sheep and the goats.)

Hebrews 13:2: "Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing so, some people have shown hospitality to angels."

Vogon_Glory

(9,645 posts)
109. Have you noticed just how many Bible verses there
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 10:54 AM
Jan 2024

are concerning how we are commanded to treat the stranger (foreigner)? As the posts on this thread show, there are a LOT of them, and they are explicit, a lot more than the two or three verses that anti-abortion fanatics interpret fast and loose to “justify” their cause. What’s more, these verses aren’t just in the Old Testament, but the New Testament as well. Right-wing “literalists” and “inerrantists” falling over themselves to support this cruel, ungodly campaign against the poor and desperate must practice a lot of denial, self-deceit, and pretzel-bending “logic” to push this stuff.

Martin68

(24,870 posts)
90. Yeah, God always hated refugees. Like the way he hated the Jews. Oh, wait, he didn't hate them., he loved them.
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 02:49 PM
Jan 2024

ancianita

(39,223 posts)
93. Not one bit biblical at all.
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 03:25 PM
Jan 2024

These things are done by those who'd rather listen to powermongers than read their Bibles.

azureblue

(2,343 posts)
95. and Jesus Himslef says they are all going to Hell
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 04:00 PM
Jan 2024

Matthew 25: 41- 46
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ 44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ 45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ 46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Ford_Prefect

(8,256 posts)
99. So far this is all hype, whether by RW media or our own. No images of the "convoy". Unlike previous Trucker Patriots
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 05:05 PM
Jan 2024

Last edited Sat Jan 27, 2024, 07:19 PM - Edit history (2)

there has been no rallying point named, seen, or MSM coverage of such an event.

I can't say that the ICC, FBI, or Homeland Security are not taking note. Other than a couple of RW/Qanon influencers on the internet no other evidence exists that this is a thing.

I'm calling it a grand empty gesture. Film at 11.
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Update: The original source site on this topic, Vice, included the following under the headline used for the OP:

The organizers current plan is for the convoy to depart Virginia Beach on Monday and snake down through the southeast, stopping over in Jacksonville, Florida before making its way to several stops along the border. The convoy will then split up for separate rallies on Feb. 3, one near Eagle Pass, Texas, a second in Yuma, Arizona, and a third in San Ysidro, California.

A group of six patriot-world influencers, including Kim Yeater, who runs a self-empowerment self-help group and an anti-voter fraud group, started organizing the convoy around a month ago. “God’s army is rising up,” she said on the planning call. “We all have been chosen for this time.”

The convoy was originally intended to send a message to the Biden Administration: “Secure Our Borders.” Its website calls on “all active & retired law enforcement and military, veterans, mama bears, elected officials, business owners, ranchers, truckers, bikers, media and LAW ABIDING, freedom-loving Americans,” to join the cause.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/5d9adk/trucker-convoy-eagle-pass-texas-border-dispute-christian-nationalism

So, in fact there is no convoy under way at this time. The Christian Nationalist hooligans are trying to gin up a 2nd civil war on the border. Just like the last time we had "patriot truckers" driving across the country to save it.

It hasn't happened yet. It may not happen at all. It may fizzle out the way the last one did when they realize it is NOT the preference of most Americans, or when enough of them get arrested, or when the fuel money runs low.

I do not see 700,000, nor 70,000, nor even 70 trucks engaged in this. The people spinning this on the internet are so far from reality they cannot imagine how much coordination, discipline, and prior planning something on this scale takes to bring off. I have seen the Army on the move for an operation of this scale. They took 3 months to plan, prepare, set up the resources and communications, AND arrange things with local officials along the route. That is what it takes, along with having drivers trained and prepared for a convoy, and MP's and other support to help coordinate the logistics.

There may be the attempt to begin it, but I doubt it will hold together.



Cue more hysterical and predictable babble about the Hype.....

Initech

(103,069 posts)
100. These people are truly fucked in the head.
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 07:13 PM
Jan 2024

What Greg Abbott and Fox News are doing to the border is wrong. It's criminal. It's murderous. It's cruel and inhumane. All to satisfy some bullshit conspiracy theory floating around social media. Just... argh.

William Gustafson

(394 posts)
103. and once they get down there.....
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 07:36 PM
Jan 2024

what will they find?.... few people wandering around, and an empty desert...

If they block roads, they will have their rigs towed and confiscated.... hope they enjoy paying the hefty fines to get them back.....

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
106. Ever meet any long haul truck drivers?
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 08:20 PM
Jan 2024

Most don’t own their trucks and most can’t afford to sit idle for weeks at a time. Their bosses will not tolerate them refusing loads and will blackball them if they make waves. Most that do own their trucks may be able to park them for a short while but they sure as hell can’t afford to drive them around empty with the cost of diesel being what it is.

Finally - I can’t think of a harder way to make a living in these United States. My prediction is - this will mostly be a non-event with just enough violent MAGA thugs breaking the law to make a few headlines.

joedogs

(35 posts)
107. Cartel
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 09:51 PM
Jan 2024

He is waiting for his master order to send in the Queen Beret and take out the drug cartel

Martin68

(24,870 posts)
110. The Egyptian Pharaoh pursued Jewish refugees with chariots. I guess this is the modern version.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 12:08 PM
Jan 2024

The Wizard

(13,014 posts)
111. Which god's
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 02:13 PM
Jan 2024

voice are they hearing. Hearing voices is a sign of schizophrenia that is covered by Obamacare.

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