'God's Army' trucker convoy heading to southern border on 'biblical' anti-migrant crusade
Source: Raw Story
A trucker convoy heading down to the southern border is using apocalyptic rhetoric to describe its desire to hunt down migrants illegally entering the United States.
Vice reports that the convoy, which is calling itself "God's Army," is launching a campaign called "Take Our Border Back" to drive undocumented immigrants and asylum seekers out of the country.
The group's desire for drastic actions was recently heightened after the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government could remove razor wire at Eagle Pass, where a migrant woman and two children drowned while trying to cross the border.
"These latest developments have aroused civil war fantasies on fringe forums, as well as on the social media accounts of GOP lawmakers and right-wing political commentators," reports Vice. "And this all means that the border convoy is garnering more interest than it might have done a couple of weeks ago. The convoys crowdfunder on GiveSendGo has raked in more than $30,000 just this week, totaling nearly $50,000 by Friday morning."
Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/army-of-god-trucker-convoy-heads-to-southern-border/
The window for addressing this situation with minimal conflict is rapidly narrowing, imho.
Traildogbob
(10,416 posts)Always has.
Roy Rolling
(7,246 posts)The Gawd-Awful Truckers can thank Joe. They were stuck on stupid under Trumps petroleum price spikes.
Traildogbob
(10,416 posts)In WNC now. Diesel is $3.68. And we are as far away from distribution hubs as you can be. A dozen free range organic eggs, $3.10.
The horror😱
Latino workers in construction, roofs, landscaping and apple orchards are the only ones out there in the area. Yards crews are in the multiple dozens and every one works their asses off and do perfect work.
But working class AmurKKKans just aint feeling it at their kitchen tables.
And this is in Meadows and Cawthorns district, with trump flags everywhere. All heros to these benefactors of prices and Latino workers.
But God Guns and Guts are the most popular tee shirts and hats, MAGA wear second.
marybourg
(13,254 posts)lastlib
(25,138 posts)FLED HIS HOME to another country?
I guess irony is wasted on the stupid...........
BlueKota
(3,790 posts)that in all probability many of their parents, grandparents, or great grandparents were once immigrants fleeing from famine, poverty, dictators and war.
They themselves wouldn't be here, if many of the harsh policies they're demanding now would have been in place when their families first came here. My ancestors came from Ireland and Italy, and I wouldn't even be alive if they had been refused entry because there were a number of Irish-Italian marriages in my family, and if they hadn't been in the U.S. they likely would have never met. I never forget that or take it for granted.
RVN VET71
(2,809 posts)For theirs is the kingdom of hell.
(At least one would hope so.)
AdamGG
(1,550 posts)...and probably nearly everything else.
Dulcinea
(7,726 posts)You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God. (Leviticus 19:34)
byronius
(7,652 posts)Just feel it, based on stuff their racist grandpa once told em.
Reading is for chumps he used to say, in his wise old klansman tone.
PSPS
(14,259 posts)What "conflict?" Do you mean the traffic jams because of the trucks and the slavering MSM convoy of "live from the scene" camera trucks on their motorized cletus safaris dutifully following their every move for clicks/ratings/outrage?
limbicnuminousity
(1,410 posts)The truckers themselves are an annoyance. Their presence merely ratchets up the tension along the border. Are they going to mount an armed trucker rebellion? No, of course not. But is has the potential to complicate a de-escalation or resolution to the Greg Abbott/TNG situation.
LastDemocratInSC
(3,919 posts)gay texan
(2,930 posts)Just made my day
maxrandb
(16,117 posts)pazzyanne
(6,639 posts)"That's what Green Berets do. Unconventional warfare is our bread and butter. Now we're doing domestic internal defense," Chambers said.
"What gets us to the enemy quickly is to find, fix, and finish, exploit, analyze, and disseminate," Chambers said, referring to a military process. "That's what we did in Syria when we took out ISIS really quick."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-convoy-calling-themselves-god-s-army-plans-to-head-to-the-texas-border-to-stop-migrants-from-entering-the-us/ar-BB1hliQG?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=2c00a2a6a5b64a6ab8650ce5c102e4ff&ei=25
louis-t
(23,888 posts)orange fat face bozo pulled our troops and gave northern Syria to Erdogan and our military base there to Putin. Erdogan chased the Kurds out of their homeland. So Pete Chambers can stick his green beret right up his ass.
EarnestPutz
(2,731 posts)...recent times. It got very little coverage back then and virtually none since. Just my opinion, but I think it is the nadir of Trump's excreable foreign policy and you re one of the few who seem to remember it.
pazzyanne
(6,639 posts)I'm still angry about what happened to the Kurds! One more reason to dislike tfg and erdogan! As far as Pete Chambers, the lieutenant colonel who says he was a Green Beret, is nothing but a sleaze ball!
Lonestarblue
(12,140 posts)Shooting US border agents is never a good idea.
duhneece
(4,286 posts)We know too many of Trumps followers are itching for a chance to bully and even kill.
Trump is telling them to go to the border
DBoon
(23,320 posts)I would hope they don't run across graduate students doing field work in desert ecology, for example.
kimbutgar
(23,893 posts)These a holes would probably want to shoot the brown skinned Jewish man!
Seinan Sensei
(791 posts)They would be 'rolling coal' at the brown man
SCantiGOP
(14,338 posts)A Palestinian Jew.
NickB79
(19,720 posts)"It's one of those goddamn Mexicans! Get him, boys!"
AllaN01Bear
(23,728 posts)central scrutinizer
(12,441 posts)What could go wrong?
GAJMac
(236 posts)Would get what they are begging for. A real war against just them where they find out that their "God" doesn't block bullets, missiles, and bombs. Let them SEE their "brothers in Christ" blown up with pieces spread all around. They'd wet their goddamned pants.
Warpy
(113,131 posts)Officials here aren't particularly impressed by the god of assisted living and would most likely confiscate the rigs of any asshole who tried to block the interstate or a border crossing.
The god of assisted living is the one who needs a bunch of ignorant mediocre males to do all his work for him, he can't do a thing for himself.
Oh, they could get their rigs back once they paid the towing fee, impound fee, lot rent fee, and traffic fines. The god of assisted living won't do that for them, either.
dchill
(41,009 posts)You think the Trump Boat Rally was a disaster? Just wait.
Seinan Sensei
(791 posts)And then and there they took a notion
And kicked Columbus back to the ocean
"Damn people of no color"
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)Human wave attacks to wipe Pizarro, deSoto and Columbus out on the beach would have been less costly in lives
Vinca
(51,443 posts)sarisataka
(21,425 posts)Matthew 25:
44Then they themselves also will answer, Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or as a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You? 45Then He will answer them, Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it for one of the least of these, you did not do it for Me, either. 46These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
markodochartaigh
(2,221 posts)49 Behold this was the iniquity of Sodom thy sister, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance, and the idleness of her, and of her daughters: and they did not put forth their hand to the needy, and to the poor.
Hotler
(12,558 posts)orangecrush
(22,583 posts)That is all.
Scrivener7
(53,674 posts)ShazzieB
(19,136 posts)sakabatou
(43,634 posts)Captain Zero
(7,624 posts)Wait.
Novara
(6,115 posts)So Americans are going to fight Federal forces now? Um, isn't that called an insurrection?
This shit is reminding me of the Bundy fiasco where Obama did nothing. It only emboldened this faction of assholes.
BlueNIndiana
(94 posts)surrealAmerican
(11,528 posts)... be cast out from my lands, and should they not leave voluntarily, my people will deal harshly with them."
If this is not heresy, there is something seriously wrong with your religion.
Red Mountain
(1,969 posts)and crowd fund it.
limbicnuminousity
(1,410 posts)Wonder Why
(4,836 posts)"Kill a Commie for Christ". Of course I get 50% of the take. Putey is exempt because our right wing nuts support our leader Donnie's boss.
walkingman
(8,735 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(12,987 posts)Not mentally ill
..theyre toxic
John Shaft
(808 posts)These people know what they are doing. They are cognizant of and therefore responsible for their actions. They have control over what they are doing. They just choose the path of evil and racism.
This who they are, no need to explain it away as if they have a mental health problem that has to be treated with medical science.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)While they say to their preacher that Jesus is too 'woke' and when can they start killing us.
Hypocrites get their own level of Hell according to Dante'
Brainfodder
(7,181 posts)Riled up by the abu$ive Republican leadership on a con$tant ba$i$?
If only there was a clue to the leader$hip motive$.
$o puzzling!
NOT!
SWBTATTReg
(24,604 posts)decent homes for their families too. Sure, some of them may be illegals, but there is a path forward on this issue too, that they can be 'legal' too, eventually.
These conveys, and those such as "God's Army" are nothing what God, IMHO, visualized, for these poor, hungry, homeless migrants. I'm almost embarrassed for the statue of Liberty located in NY to be here any longer. After all, we all are immigrants too (for the most part, our native sons, our Indian friends were here long before all of us).
Maybe sanity will come soon, but I wonder sometimes about the hate and such, inspired by tRUMP and his ilk.
tom_kelly
(1,051 posts)Wonder Why
(4,836 posts)LeftInTX
(31,824 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,905 posts)is also on the border? They probably think it's part of Mexico.
John Shaft
(808 posts)fucking idiots.
twodogsbarking
(12,409 posts)ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)twodogsbarking
(12,409 posts)reACTIONary
(6,235 posts).... I think GiveSendGo is better called TakeTheMoneyAndRun.
nwduke
(375 posts)Drive around and pick up every brown person they see walking on the road?
Rizen
(818 posts)More shit-for-brains vigilantes.
Mr.Bill
(24,905 posts)More losing.
OldBaldy1701E
(6,949 posts)However many truckers itching for a fight so they can wave their metal penises around.
(I am guessing three should do it.) Three Apaches with 20mm Vulcans using 3d imaging and sighting.
Locate the convoy on a barren stretch of road. (No houses for miles, and no other vehicles around.) Say three minutes tops.
No more problem.
And, there would be zero casualties. Just several piles of scrap metal with dazed beerguts sitting in the middle. Possibly holding a steering wheel. Now that is if they don't do something monumental... like try to return fire... because that would not go well for any of them.
(Yes, today's military aircraft can literally remove the vehicle out from under you if they so desire. Of course, since there will only be a bunch of sunburnt rednecks whining about being shot up from 'somewhere' and since there will be no evidence (that will be made sure of), the next group of half drunk idiots will remember what happened. Regardless of who they might want to blame it on, they WILL remember. But, this is just my opinion on the matter. Except about the Apaches. That part is true.)
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(117,736 posts)The 20 mm is carried on the Cobra which the Army no longer uses but is still used by the Marines.
OldBaldy1701E
(6,949 posts)limbicnuminousity
(1,410 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(117,736 posts)Shame this fuckhead forgets this.
dflprincess
(28,606 posts)Not that this "army" are familar with anything Jesus taught.
jmowreader
(51,743 posts)Someone in this convoy is going to die. Itll probably be by traffic accident but someone is going to die.
MTG will file articles of impeachment against President Biden for not doing enough to
well, make sure Private Schmuckatelli of Gods Army knew how to drive a 12-foot-high top heavy RV on soft sand.
Trump will use this traffic accident to make 500 attack ads.
The right wing media will talk about this incessantly.
Trump will still lose the election, and hell still send 5000 people to attack the Capitol on 1-6-25.
AZ8theist
(6,619 posts)He may urge 5K to go, but they will stop in their tracks a mile away.
There will be an entirely different security set up the next time.
GenThePerservering
(2,675 posts)they'll get lost. Only one or two roads to where they're going, but they'll get lost.
GenThePerservering
(2,675 posts)on their tacky website!
Routes are posted, too. Also someone inserted "peaceful assembly" in their logo - it's the wrong font and doesn't really fit so I expect it's an add-in.
Visit incog.
summer_in_TX
(3,398 posts)What will they do when and if they find out?
"The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God."
Leviticus 19:34
"Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow. Then all the people shall say, Amen!"
Deuteronomy 27:19
"For if you truly amend your ways and your doings, if you truly act justly one with another, if you do not oppress the alien, the orphan, and the widow, or shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not go after other gods to your own hurt, then I will dwell with you in this place, in the land that I gave of old to your ancestors forever and ever."
Jeremiah 7:5-7
"You shall allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the aliens who reside among you and have begotten children among you. They shall be to you as citizens of Israel; with you they shall be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel."
Ezekiel 47:22
"Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another."
Zechariah 7 -10
chouchou
(1,537 posts)Trump makes everything worse.
myohmy2
(3,572 posts)...send our military to meet God's Army and send them back to God where they belong...
...
ancianita
(39,223 posts)The Houston Chronicle on Dan Wilks, Ferris Wilks, of Cisco, TX, and Tim Dunn of Midland
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/dunn-wilks-paxton-texas-theocracy-democracy-18380689.php
Re immigrants:
Romans 12:13 Contribute to the needs of the saints; extend hospitality to strangers.
Re Trump:
Matthew 24:5 Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled....
kysrsoze
(6,201 posts)They seem to have ample time to sit around waiting for a chance to drive somewhere and have a public hissy fit.
Old Crank
(5,150 posts)Offices in Washinton or Mar Lumbago.
mercuryblues
(15,378 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(22,077 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,645 posts)These peoples actions are not only disgusting but run counter to whats in the Bible. If theres a Hell, these guys are risking damnation.
Ezekiel Chapter 16 verses 49 and 50 are rather explicit as to why the Big Guy flamed Sodom. It wasnt because of hommasexshuls, but because He was steamed about their selfishness and their hostility towards migrants and the poor.
Other verses:
Exodus 22:21
Exodus 23, verse 9
Leviticus 19: 33, 34
Ezekiel 47: 22, 23
Deuteronomy 24: 14-15, 17
(Dont take my word for it, look it up at the sources yourselves).
I would add that the right-wing religious reactionaries whove climbed onto the immigrant-bashing bandwagon are tip-toeing around these very explicit verses and trying to ignore them.
Maraya1969
(23,089 posts)and how you are to treat the foreigner being pulled behind.
IronLionZion
(47,315 posts)On a related note, all this talk of religious missions and convoys of trucks to do God's work sounds a lot like Taliban.
When people believe that they are working on behalf of God, they might be willing to resort to relatively extreme measures, said Ruth Braunstein, assistant professor of sociology at the University of Connecticut and author of Prophets and Patriots: Faith in Democracy Across the Political Divide. And so you have a politically volatile situation that could become much more so, in part because of this rhetoric.
Sneederbunk
(15,551 posts)Scrivener7
(53,674 posts)How many of them have trucks and can get the time off? How many of them have trucks and can get the time off and have the money to waste on trucking across the country without a specific goal?
I'll wait before I let specious media reports make me hysterical about this one.
Think. Again.
(20,615 posts)KS Toronado
(20,117 posts)not feed and clothe them like Jesus instructed us to do. Maybe we should have billboards along
highways close to the border that read........I never said to kill the poor & hungry, with a picture
of Jesus.
JoyBugaloo
(99 posts)Are these trucks big rigs? Pick 'em ups? RV's?
Who are these "truckers"
Any professional driver I know doesn't want to lose the otr hours for such nonsense.
Owner operators? Probably not, being that they have to carry around $1M per truck in insurance just to operate - doubtful they would want to lose the time on the road, not make a payment and put their entire operation in jeopardy.
Who are these "drivers" that have access to vehicles and can afford to come off the road to hoot an' holler in a parade?
Who is really paying for all of this?
CanonRay
(15,005 posts)momta
(4,120 posts)keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)SarahD
(1,732 posts)Vitriolic hatred is either explosive or caustic, I forget which.
bernieb
(77 posts)Deuteronomy 10:19:"You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt."
Matthew 25:35: "For I was hungry and you gave me food. I was thirsty and you gave me drink. I was a stranger and you invited me in." (This is the chapter about the sheep and the goats.)
Hebrews 13:2: "Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing so, some people have shown hospitality to angels."
Vogon_Glory
(9,645 posts)are concerning how we are commanded to treat the stranger (foreigner)? As the posts on this thread show, there are a LOT of them, and they are explicit, a lot more than the two or three verses that anti-abortion fanatics interpret fast and loose to justify their cause. Whats more, these verses arent just in the Old Testament, but the New Testament as well. Right-wing literalists and inerrantists falling over themselves to support this cruel, ungodly campaign against the poor and desperate must practice a lot of denial, self-deceit, and pretzel-bending logic to push this stuff.
Martin68
(24,870 posts)prodigitalson
(3,018 posts)ancianita
(39,223 posts)These things are done by those who'd rather listen to powermongers than read their Bibles.
azureblue
(2,343 posts)Matthew 25: 41- 46
41 Then he will say to those on his left, Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me. 44 They also will answer, Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you? 45 He will reply, Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me. 46 Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.
AllaN01Bear
(23,728 posts)Ford_Prefect
(8,256 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 27, 2024, 07:19 PM - Edit history (2)
there has been no rallying point named, seen, or MSM coverage of such an event.
I can't say that the ICC, FBI, or Homeland Security are not taking note. Other than a couple of RW/Qanon influencers on the internet no other evidence exists that this is a thing.
I'm calling it a grand empty gesture. Film at 11.
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Update: The original source site on this topic, Vice, included the following under the headline used for the OP:
The organizers current plan is for the convoy to depart Virginia Beach on Monday and snake down through the southeast, stopping over in Jacksonville, Florida before making its way to several stops along the border. The convoy will then split up for separate rallies on Feb. 3, one near Eagle Pass, Texas, a second in Yuma, Arizona, and a third in San Ysidro, California.
A group of six patriot-world influencers, including Kim Yeater, who runs a self-empowerment self-help group and an anti-voter fraud group, started organizing the convoy around a month ago. Gods army is rising up, she said on the planning call. We all have been chosen for this time.
The convoy was originally intended to send a message to the Biden Administration: Secure Our Borders. Its website calls on all active & retired law enforcement and military, veterans, mama bears, elected officials, business owners, ranchers, truckers, bikers, media and LAW ABIDING, freedom-loving Americans, to join the cause.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/5d9adk/trucker-convoy-eagle-pass-texas-border-dispute-christian-nationalism
So, in fact there is no convoy under way at this time. The Christian Nationalist hooligans are trying to gin up a 2nd civil war on the border. Just like the last time we had "patriot truckers" driving across the country to save it.
It hasn't happened yet. It may not happen at all. It may fizzle out the way the last one did when they realize it is NOT the preference of most Americans, or when enough of them get arrested, or when the fuel money runs low.
I do not see 700,000, nor 70,000, nor even 70 trucks engaged in this. The people spinning this on the internet are so far from reality they cannot imagine how much coordination, discipline, and prior planning something on this scale takes to bring off. I have seen the Army on the move for an operation of this scale. They took 3 months to plan, prepare, set up the resources and communications, AND arrange things with local officials along the route. That is what it takes, along with having drivers trained and prepared for a convoy, and MP's and other support to help coordinate the logistics.
There may be the attempt to begin it, but I doubt it will hold together.
Cue more hysterical and predictable babble about the Hype.....
Initech
(103,069 posts)What Greg Abbott and Fox News are doing to the border is wrong. It's criminal. It's murderous. It's cruel and inhumane. All to satisfy some bullshit conspiracy theory floating around social media. Just... argh.
mwb970
(11,731 posts)These awful people are as far from Jesus as you can get.
William Gustafson
(394 posts)what will they find?.... few people wandering around, and an empty desert...
If they block roads, they will have their rigs towed and confiscated.... hope they enjoy paying the hefty fines to get them back.....
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Most dont own their trucks and most cant afford to sit idle for weeks at a time. Their bosses will not tolerate them refusing loads and will blackball them if they make waves. Most that do own their trucks may be able to park them for a short while but they sure as hell cant afford to drive them around empty with the cost of diesel being what it is.
Finally - I cant think of a harder way to make a living in these United States. My prediction is - this will mostly be a non-event with just enough violent MAGA thugs breaking the law to make a few headlines.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,793 posts)joedogs
(35 posts)He is waiting for his master order to send in the Queen Beret and take out the drug cartel
Martin68
(24,870 posts)The Wizard
(13,014 posts)voice are they hearing. Hearing voices is a sign of schizophrenia that is covered by Obamacare.
relayerbob
(7,082 posts)Destroying everything in their path.