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ultralite001

(928 posts)
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:22 PM Jun 10

Four instructors from Cornell College, IA stabbed while visiting Jilin City, China

Source: KCCI News 8, Des Moines, IA

According to the college, the four instructors from Cornell College were stabbed while visiting a park in Jilin City, China, over the weekend. The instructors were on a trip as part of a partnership Cornell has with a university in China, Cornell President Jonathan Brand said in a statement sent to Cornell students.

"We have learned that four Cornell instructors teaching as part of a partnership with a university in China were injured in a serious incident during a daytime visit to a public park while accompanied by a faculty member of the partner institution," Brand wrote. "We have been in contact with all four instructors and are assisting them during this time. There were no students taking part in this program."

Read more: https://www.kcci.com/article/cornell-college-instructors-attacked-stabbed-visiting-china-park/61061928

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Four instructors from Cornell College, IA stabbed while visiting Jilin City, China (Original Post) ultralite001 Jun 10 OP
Relentless Chinese anti-American propaganda has taken a toll. Irish_Dem Jun 10 #1
So true. My son's friend (Chinese American) used to Quakerfriend Jun 10 #3
Yes it is a fabulous trip. Irish_Dem Jun 10 #5
Sounds fabulous!! You are so lucky to have been Quakerfriend Jun 10 #10
The first time was grim. Irish_Dem Jun 10 #12
Very interesting! My friend's parents went to China Quakerfriend Jun 10 #13
Not surprising at all. Irish_Dem Jun 10 #14
Your spell check SweetT Jun 10 #7
🤣 Quakerfriend Jun 10 #11
It's a perfectly cromulent expression rpannier Jun 10 #15
Propaganda fuels stochastic terrorists. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 10 #4
Exactly what dictators want to do. Irish_Dem Jun 10 #6
Please not Devan Rosen mahina Jun 10 #2
Google tells me "Devan Rosen" is from Ithaca College. Igel Jun 10 #8
Thank you. mahina Jun 10 #9
Update -- 2 of the 4 Cornell College, IA instructors attacked during a trip to a park in China remain critical ultralite001 Jun 11 #16
Incompetent Chinese leaders stir up xenophobia against the U.S.A.... hunter Jun 11 #17

Irish_Dem

(50,909 posts)
1. Relentless Chinese anti-American propaganda has taken a toll.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:26 PM
Jun 10

Once the Chinese were friendly and liked Americans.

Now China is not a destination for foreigners who want to go to school or work there.

Quakerfriend

(5,489 posts)
3. So true. My son's friend (Chinese American) used to
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:41 PM
Jun 10

take an ante rouge of friends to visit China annually-
but, not in past 4 yrs.

Irish_Dem

(50,909 posts)
5. Yes it is a fabulous trip.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 05:56 PM
Jun 10

The history, the sights, the people, the food.

I have been there twice and it was the most outstanding trip.

Beijing, Wall of China, Panda Center, Terra Cotta Warriors, Summer Palace,
Xian, Shanghai, Guangzhou, bullet trains, fabulous airports and transportation.

China is one of the world's most ancient civilizations, 5000 years old.
The history is incredible. They take it for granted.

I was in an antique shop in China, looking at pottery.
There was some pottery sitting in a corner, gathering dust, not on the shelves, no price
marking. I asked the clerk what they were. She said they are new stuff, no one wants them.
Only three to four hundred years old. I told her that was older than my country and would
be considered quite valuable.

The food was incredible, I gained 8 lbs in two weeks, and I am small.
Like 16 lbs for a normal size person.

Chinese people were very friendly, wanted to connect and practice their English.

Of course it is China, a ruthless dictatorship, so you have to mind your P's and Q's while there.

It is sad, it is no longer a place for Americans to visit.

Quakerfriend

(5,489 posts)
10. Sounds fabulous!! You are so lucky to have been
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 06:56 PM
Jun 10

there not once but twice !!

I’ve been to many corners of the world but not China.

Irish_Dem

(50,909 posts)
12. The first time was grim.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 07:08 PM
Jun 10

Around 1999, it was pretty bad.
Desperate poverty and hunger every where.
Draconian and in your face policing and harassment of citizens.

People were very thin, poor, drawn, pale.
Withdrawn, no eye contact.

Red hat police every where, giving you a hard time over nonsense.

It was so scary.

Then ten years later, a miracle happened.
Food everywhere in China, and cheap.
People laughing, happy, talking, making eye contact.
More middle class, not poor.

No Chinese gestapo police.
More plain clothes cops, giving people more space.

So the second trip was the trip of a lifetime.

Quakerfriend

(5,489 posts)
13. Very interesting! My friend's parents went to China
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 07:18 PM
Jun 10

as tourists back in the early 90s- The wife had a gallbladder attack while there and was rushed into surgery- When she got home her doctor discovered she had had a kidney ‘stolen’ as well.

Irish_Dem

(50,909 posts)
14. Not surprising at all.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 07:24 PM
Jun 10

Chinese hospitals were very grim at the time and only marginally better now.

The poverty was stunning and the people did anything they could for food.
Corruption was rampant so yes. A nice healthy kidney was too irresistible.

But it is a much better country now in terms of the people and tourism.
I should say however, the propaganda now is bad, and Americans are not as well received
from what I am hearing.

Attacking American tourists would never have been tolerated 15 years ago.

Igel

(35,570 posts)
8. Google tells me "Devan Rosen" is from Ithaca College.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 06:13 PM
Jun 10

Cornell University's also in Ithaca, NY. I've been there a few times to do research in their library; my wife was post-doc at U. Rochester and we co-published as she was a post-doc and I was dissertating. Pretty town. But unpleasant--warm and humid, frigid to freeze-drying levels.

Cornell College is in Mount Vernon, Iowa. Far fewer hills, I'd wager, and no ropes along the sidewalks in the depths of late fall and early spring (as well as winter).

mahina

(17,982 posts)
9. Thank you.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 06:33 PM
Jun 10

He was one of my favorite profs at UH before he went back to Cornell. Computer mediated communication and flock theory was his thing.

Good luck to all.

ultralite001

(928 posts)
16. Update -- 2 of the 4 Cornell College, IA instructors attacked during a trip to a park in China remain critical
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 12:41 AM
Jun 11

State Rep. Adam Zabner, of Iowa City, told CBS News that his brother, David Zabner, was hurt in the attack. He said the group was visiting a local temple when they were attacked by a man with a knife. Adam Zabner said his brother was stabbed in the arm and is recovering from the injury.

The other three victims have not yet been publicly identified.

https://www.kcci.com/article/cornell-college-instructors-attacked-stabbed-visiting-china-park/61061928

hunter

(38,495 posts)
17. Incompetent Chinese leaders stir up xenophobia against the U.S.A....
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 08:24 AM
Jun 11

... just as incompetent U.S.A. leaders stir up xenophobia against China.

Then along comes some violent sociopath with a gun or a knife, head full of voices from the television or radio...



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