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BumRushDaShow

(140,913 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 04:16 AM Jul 2024

FBI investigating Trump rally shooting as potential domestic terrorism

Source: Axios

7 hours ago


The FBI is investigating the Trump rally shooting as an act of domestic terrorism as well as an assassination attempt on the former president, officials said Sunday.

The big picture: Searches of a vehicle and the Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, home of suspect Thomas Matthew Crooks uncovered "suspicious devices" that were "rendered safe by bomb technicians and are being evaluated at the FBI Laboratory," per an emailed statement from the bureau Sunday night.

  • Investigators believe that the 20-year-old suspect acted alone in the attack on former President Trump that killed at least one spectator and left two others critically injured, officials said.
  • FBI Pittsburgh special agent in charge Kevin Rojek told reporters that the gun used in the attempted assassination of Trump in which the shooter also died was an "AR-style 556 rifle" that was bought legally.


  • Zoom in: The FBI said in its email that while the investigation into Saturday's shooting at the rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, "indicates the shooter acted alone, the FBI continues to conduct logical investigative activity to determine if there were any co-conspirators associated with this attack."

    Read more: https://www.axios.com/2024/07/14/fbi-investigating-trump-rally-shooting-as-potential-domestic-terrorism
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    bucolic_frolic

    (46,561 posts)
    2. LOL, yes that's it
    Mon Jul 15, 2024, 05:17 AM
    Jul 2024

    This miscreant had all this expertise in his head to penetrate world class security. Lone wolf.

    24601

    (4,002 posts)
    4. My understanding from yesterday's LE briefings is that the USSS secured the area inside the event perimeter and that
    Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:53 AM
    Jul 2024

    state, county, and local police had primary security responsibility outside the event. The shooter himself was outside the USSS zone. A local police officer was checking reports of someone on a roof in their zone when the shooting happened. While it was not explicitly stated, the inference I drew is that the officer's presence and retreat when a weapon was pointed at him, may have rushed the shooter before the first round was fired.

    BootinUp

    (48,768 posts)
    5. I am going to Occam's razor this thing for anyone that might care:
    Mon Jul 15, 2024, 11:36 AM
    Jul 2024

    FACT: The local police force was tasked with covering the area of the building the shooter used. (according to the S.S)

    FACT: The building had been identified as an area that required law enforcement to guard/monitor.

    ACCEPTED AS FACT: An officer attempted to intercede but retreated when he came under the aim of the shooter.

    OCCAMS RAZOR: The local police force failed to prevent one person from entering/ scaling the building, a person who intentionally tried to avoid attention for his purposes. He sneaked by the cops. Is that so hard to accept?

    FakeNoose

    (35,386 posts)
    6. How did the kid hide the gun as he walked into the building?
    Mon Jul 15, 2024, 12:15 PM
    Jul 2024

    I think the cops need to explain that - at least.

    Were they checking people's bags, did they use magnetometers? The photo I saw of the kid, he didn't look very tall, maybe even slightly short. That weapon had to be longer than his arm.

    There are so many unanswered questions.

    BootinUp

    (48,768 posts)
    7. My answer: They didn't actually cover the building.
    Mon Jul 15, 2024, 12:25 PM
    Jul 2024

    Sufficiently. The officer(s) in the area either allowed themselves to be distracted, or the instructions they had, everything they were responsible to cover was too much.

    I say it’s the simplest solution to the questions. That is my understanding of Occam’s razor.

    BootinUp

    (48,768 posts)
    8. One last point.
    Mon Jul 15, 2024, 12:30 PM
    Jul 2024

    When I say the instructions to the officers in that area may have been badly designed. I would blame the local departments for that or suspect them of doing it poorly I mean.

    FakeNoose

    (35,386 posts)
    10. OK well maybe the kid hid the gun in a large duffle bag - the gun would have to be in pieces
    Mon Jul 15, 2024, 07:34 PM
    Jul 2024

    So he had to know how to put it together once he got into the building.

    I still find it weird that the cops weren't checking people's bags, AND they allowed random people to just walk in with no ID. This building was very CLOSE to the stage area.

    How was the kid able to find a way up to the roof? Aren't those stairways or access ramps locked up under normal circumstances?

    There's just a lot of planning that went into this, and the kid must have had help from somebody. Doesn't it seem that way? Occam's Razor doesn't account for everything.

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