failed to protect the venue? I assume they were informed and directed by Secret Service...

? hmmmm ?

The Mayor and the Chief of police might be going through some things soon

He was on FOX soon after giving a trump sucking interview rather than you know.....running an emergency plan.

heads were going to Roll because of the Huge Lapse in security?

the sniper on a nearby rooftop?

Mind blown.

Even if they had doubts, they probably didn't want to pull the trigger unless 100% sure.

The whole thing STINKS..................

Does that count?

He was detected by the public who alerted local police. Some may have thought him official part of LE team. The rooftop crew had him sighted about 4 minutes? But waited until he shot. How long was he there?

It wouldn't surprise me to learn, eventually, that local cops were nonchalant given Butler/Butler County is the very definition of Trump Country friendly crowds.

However, given that a local cop actually went up to confront Crooks, there should have been an immediate communication with the secret service before the local cop even started up the ladder to the roof. The secret service would have immediately pulled Trump off the stage. There might not have been any loss of life except the shooter's had that happened.

I saw a stack of camo wearing guys with guns move into the crowd shortly after Trump was hustled off the stage. Whether they were local SWAT or PA state police SWAT, I don't know. But, I'll bet Gov Shapiro is PO'd and his administration will get to the bottom of it, at least the state and local part.

I've been to events with presidential candidates and the SS is in charge. They direct security. Any security failure is their failure, in my book.

I mean, how TF did the snipers on the other building not see this dude and how did all the SS in the crowd - because I know they are there from experience - not hear talk of or see the shooter themselves.

I'm not trying to conspiracy here. I'm just not buying it was anyone's fault but the SS.

You host an open air event near a town with buildings that overlook the venue, and you expect law enforcement to post someone on every roof?

Are we forgetting how the Trump campaign is run and how Trump repeatedly ignores security advice?

Depending on the police department, they'll just let the open-carry nuts do whatever they want.

... is almost certainly Trump's obsession with crowd size. He has to inflate attendance estimates to assuage his fragile ego.
The other reason is that no one will rent him an indoor venue because the sonofabitch never pays anyone. There are thousands of ongoing lawsuits against him for nonpayment or theft of services. And I suspect those are just the ones that are brought by people or companies that can afford the lawyers' fees. Many are dropped because the cost of litigation is ruinous.
Trump has been a thief his entire life. It's a wonder that none of those he's cheated have taken a potshot at him.

I don't think they have an "inside" - everything is outdoors. Plus it's a very RED county, the few MAGAs we have in Pittsburgh go up to Butler to feel safe.

fake numbers about crowd size when outdoors.

n/t

It was a pitched roof. The good guy snipers could not see to the other side of the roof untill they guy was at the top. It was not a high pitch, but the roof was not flat.

and what do I know about security, but keeping an eye on all roofs in an area overlooking a stage would be my first move.

Secret service says they assigned the security of these outer buildings to local cops. Butler DA says poor local cops were last in the chain of command behind secret service and PA state police.

Roll on this huge Lapse in security?
I saw a video last night where rally goers were pointing out the shooter laying down up there.

So local LEOs probably saw him go up and just figured he was a fan who wanted a better view. But as always, it’s the guns, Stupids.