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Drum

(9,686 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 02:11 PM Jul 2024

Live Election Updates: J.D. Vance Is Trump's Choice for Vice President

Source: New York Times

A political newcomer and former Trump critic turned ally, the senator is an ambitious, telegenic ideologue who relishes the spotlight and has already shown he can energize donors.

Mr. Vance, 39, is a political newcomer who entered the Senate only last year, but he has spent that time methodically ascending the conservative firmament. Once an acerbic Trump critic — attacking Mr. Trump as “reprehensible” and calling him “cultural heroin” — he won Mr. Trump’s backing in his 2022 Senate race by wholly embracing his politics and his lies about a stolen election. The endorsement lifted him above a crowded field, and ultimately to the Senate.

Mr. Vance, a venture capitalist in Silicon Valley who became best known for writing the memoir “Hillbilly Elegy,” did not forget it. He quickly emerged as a top defender of the former president in the halls of Congress and on television, taking his cues from Mr. Trump while frequently bucking the priorities of Senator Mitch McConnell, the chamber’s longtime Republican leader.

Mr. Trump’s announcement came just days after he survived an assassination attempt at a rally in Pennsylvania, an episode that underlined the significance of his selecting a running mate who might be in line as Mr. Trump’s successor.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/15/us/trump-rnc-news-biden?unlocked_article_code=1.7U0.FKmb.tpdSutJ5kTVa&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb



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Live Election Updates: J.D. Vance Is Trump's Choice for Vice President (Original Post) Drum Jul 2024 OP
Oh what a suprise DemocracyWorks Jul 2024 #1
They'll need his ability to energize donors for sure. Think. Again. Jul 2024 #2
Here comes fascism squared kansasobama Jul 2024 #3
Even more sorry I ever bought his book Jimbo S Jul 2024 #4
I read it, but didn't pay for it. Dulcinea Jul 2024 #35
So it was only half-"ugh" for you. Jimbo S Jul 2024 #38
BFD. Dulcinea Jul 2024 #39
Phony-ass hillbilly. Prof. Toru Tanaka Jul 2024 #43
Game-Changer? czarjak Jul 2024 #5
Peter Thiel bmichaelh Jul 2024 #6
Thiel was a financial backer in Vance's venture capital firm FBaggins Jul 2024 #7
How can Vance fraternize with Theil? Theil is gay! spotthebird Jul 2024 #18
Oh look, another white male, fascist shithead. LudwigPastorius Jul 2024 #8
Leave it to the NYT to write a sickening, drooling love-fest for this bullshit.... AZ8theist Jul 2024 #9
Oh, great. Peter Thiel running the country. not fooled Jul 2024 #10
Cue the ads of Vance bashing Trump when he was a Never Trumper! SunSeeker Jul 2024 #11
I'm really surprised he wanted that job, given how they treated the last guy. Initech Jul 2024 #12
If they win... Trump can only serve one term FBaggins Jul 2024 #17
Trump does not plan to leave. Vance could replace him if he died although spotthebird Jul 2024 #19
Oh he badly wants to be an Orban / Erdogan / Duterete / Milei type. Initech Jul 2024 #28
Vance sees Trump's decline as clearly as we do, he won't have to wait as long as Pence for his chance at the throne InstantGratification Jul 2024 #21
That's really scary. Vance is a definite sociopath and he'll appeal to the anti-DEI crowd. Initech Jul 2024 #27
If anybody is worse than Trump, it's Vance. valleyrogue Jul 2024 #31
And Vance is a lot younger than Trump. Initech Jul 2024 #34
Yeah, but that "liberal media"...... Prof. Toru Tanaka Jul 2024 #44
A lot of long time MAGA supporters aren't happy (at least if you believe Twitter) crimycarny Jul 2024 #13
Haley, Rubio would have been seen as mainstream. Hubby said Burgum was somewhat normal. LeftInTX Jul 2024 #24
from 2021: Skittles Jul 2024 #14
The All White People Convention has spoken. ancianita Jul 2024 #15
A serial liar just like Orange Julius and 35 years younger? Evolve Dammit Jul 2024 #16
I thought he wanted a bright political future. Guess he thinks he's hitched his japple Jul 2024 #20
From Pence to Vance, Trump really likes the nce names IronLionZion Jul 2024 #22
Yup. He really is that shallow. nt SunSeeker Jul 2024 #26
... Kali Jul 2024 #33
Trump/Vance. Another two-syllable Presidential ticket. Aristus Jul 2024 #23
The Internet can be such an inconvenience for Republicans. Miles Archer Jul 2024 #25
"Telegenic"? Has anyone ever thought that before? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2024 #29
He is Peter Thiel's puppet. valleyrogue Jul 2024 #30
Listen..... LPBBEAR Jul 2024 #32
Convicted Felon - Hillbilly vs. Biden - Harris... CapnSteve Jul 2024 #36
MAGA Mania! Two identical fascists, one who pretends he's a Christian too? travelingthrulife Jul 2024 #37
So if Trump wins and something happens to him ... Kablooie Jul 2024 #40
A question Linda ladeewolf Jul 2024 #41
Nimrata sold her soul for nothing nt ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 2024 #42
Ain't that the truth! Prof. Toru Tanaka Jul 2024 #45

kansasobama

(1,406 posts)
3. Here comes fascism squared
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 02:13 PM
Jul 2024

Vance assures continuity of fascism for another 8 years. That is a total of 12 years. Elections will be rigged. Justice Dept destroyed. If we don't win in 2024, we are F'ed.

Jimbo S

(3,007 posts)
4. Even more sorry I ever bought his book
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 02:15 PM
Jul 2024

He has a cut of my $25. To top it off, his book didn't meet my expectations.

Dulcinea

(7,372 posts)
35. I read it, but didn't pay for it.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 04:22 PM
Jul 2024

I got it from my book swap. I wasn't impressed. JD Vance is a middle class kid from Ohio, not a hillbilly, even though he had country folk in his family.

Jimbo S

(3,007 posts)
38. So it was only half-"ugh" for you.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:15 PM
Jul 2024

Took the time to read, but didn't cost anything.

He grew up in a middle-class city, but had a dysfunctional family relationship due to *their* background.

Dulcinea

(7,372 posts)
39. BFD.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:25 PM
Jul 2024

Lots of people have dysfunctional families. They don't turn out to be shameless opportunists.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,252 posts)
43. Phony-ass hillbilly.
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 08:42 AM
Jul 2024

The only thing not phony about him IMO is his opportunism and willingness to be a backstabber to get ahead.

czarjak

(12,342 posts)
5. Game-Changer?
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 02:16 PM
Jul 2024

Pence, Vance? Six of one... Or, maybe he'll fill those shoes nicely. Brown-nosers adapt.

bmichaelh

(585 posts)
6. Peter Thiel
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 02:18 PM
Jul 2024

There have been reports on this forum and internet, that JD Vance has ties to billionaire Peter Thiel.

Trump is going to support the donor class.

What a surprise!:

FBaggins

(27,441 posts)
7. Thiel was a financial backer in Vance's venture capital firm
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 02:23 PM
Jul 2024

He was also a large backer in the PAC that got Vance started on his run for Senate two years ago.

AZ8theist

(6,427 posts)
9. Leave it to the NYT to write a sickening, drooling love-fest for this bullshit....
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 02:24 PM
Jul 2024

Part of a "populist right-wing movement"????? So was Hitler.

After Dotard is dead, this asshole will continue the MAGAt movement? Lord, help us.

Like a car wreck in slow motion, we can all kiss America goodbye while 50% of the population can't be bothered to vote.

not fooled

(6,043 posts)
10. Oh, great. Peter Thiel running the country.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 02:27 PM
Jul 2024

And all of the dumbass maggots will gleefully vote for the oligarchy.

FBaggins

(27,441 posts)
17. If they win... Trump can only serve one term
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 02:47 PM
Jul 2024

And it isn't as though Biden is the only older candidate in the race.

He wasn't likely to be a 2028 contender without this promotion

spotthebird

(174 posts)
19. Trump does not plan to leave. Vance could replace him if he died although
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 02:51 PM
Jul 2024

Jr. will have a thing or two to say about that

It kills Trump that he can't fire the VP

Initech

(101,570 posts)
28. Oh he badly wants to be an Orban / Erdogan / Duterete / Milei type.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 03:19 PM
Jul 2024

And he'll get it if Trump wins.

21. Vance sees Trump's decline as clearly as we do, he won't have to wait as long as Pence for his chance at the throne
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 02:58 PM
Jul 2024

Trump out lasted Pence, he won't last a second term. All Vance's ass kissing to get Trump's favor was calculated on his part. He wants to be the top dog and knows mush brain won't last long.

He went from not in politics to a Senator only 2 years into his first term. Now with a chance to be VP to a POTUS in questionable health. Vance is ambitious and every bit as amoral as Trump. I'm not sure if he is AS ruthless as TCF, but he is plenty ruthless and much smarter than Trump.

The way he sees it, Trump wins and he leap frogs to the top. Trump loses and he goes back to his Senate seat with 4 years til his next election.

Initech

(101,570 posts)
27. That's really scary. Vance is a definite sociopath and he'll appeal to the anti-DEI crowd.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 03:18 PM
Jul 2024

But we have to work to get rid of toxic career politicians like Vance who have no business being in the senate, other than they advertise themselves on fucking Fox News 24 hours a day. Once again, proving that Fox News is Trump's vice. Fox isn't a news network, it's a marketing firm for GOP candidates and GOP policies.

valleyrogue

(873 posts)
31. If anybody is worse than Trump, it's Vance.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 03:38 PM
Jul 2024

He is completely owned by Thiel, and his ideas are Christofascist.

Initech

(101,570 posts)
34. And Vance is a lot younger than Trump.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 04:21 PM
Jul 2024

Which means if he follows the Project 2025 playbook, he could be in power for an extremely long time and will be very difficult, if not impossible to get rid of. Total nightmare scenario there.

crimycarny

(1,575 posts)
13. A lot of long time MAGA supporters aren't happy (at least if you believe Twitter)
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 02:39 PM
Jul 2024

I'm seeing a ton of MAGA supporters furious at this pick. Calling it "Pence 2.0" and referring to J. D. Vance's past comments disparaging Trump.

I don't see Vance as anything but an echo chamber for Trump. I can't see Vance bringing in independents or undecideds. And, if you can believe Twitter, Trump's most ardent MAGA supporters don't like this VP choice either. Some seem downright angry at this choice. Not that they will change their vote but definitely not exciting them.

Of all the choices I think J. D. Vance is the choice most favorable for Dems.

I guess we'll see.

LeftInTX

(29,714 posts)
24. Haley, Rubio would have been seen as mainstream. Hubby said Burgum was somewhat normal.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 03:09 PM
Jul 2024

Vance is basically Noem.

japple

(10,280 posts)
20. I thought he wanted a bright political future. Guess he thinks he's hitched his
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 02:55 PM
Jul 2024

wagon to a star.

Aristus

(68,173 posts)
23. Trump/Vance. Another two-syllable Presidential ticket.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 03:05 PM
Jul 2024

Perfectly tailored for the shrunken brains and short attention spans of their supporters.

Miles Archer

(18,957 posts)
25. The Internet can be such an inconvenience for Republicans.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 03:09 PM
Jul 2024

Vance on Trump:

"Might be America's Hitler"
"Might be a cynical a**hole"
"Cultural heroin"
"Noxious" and "Reprehensible"

J.D. Vance once compared Trump to Hitler. Now they are running mates
By Gram Slattery and Helen Coster
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/jd-vance-once-compared-trump-hitler-now-they-are-running-mates-2024-07-15/

muriel_volestrangler

(102,360 posts)
29. "Telegenic"? Has anyone ever thought that before?
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 03:35 PM
Jul 2024

Let alone committed it to print? Talking about brown-nosing.

valleyrogue

(873 posts)
30. He is Peter Thiel's puppet.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 03:37 PM
Jul 2024

That is about as evil as it gets since Thiel does NOT believe in democracy at all.

Vance is a crackpot.

CapnSteve

(252 posts)
36. Convicted Felon - Hillbilly vs. Biden - Harris...
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 04:22 PM
Jul 2024

Bring. It. On.

Kamala will wipe the floor with J.D. (as I call him: Just Dumb) in a debate. Again I say: Bring. It. On.

I still think Biden needs to show up outside the RNC convention in his golf attire and bag of clubs. "I booked us a tee time at the local muni course, Donald. I am ready to accept the challenge you gave me at the first debate. I will walk the course and carry my own clubs, like I always do. I understand if you have to use a golf cart, Donnie."

travelingthrulife

(418 posts)
37. MAGA Mania! Two identical fascists, one who pretends he's a Christian too?
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 06:39 PM
Jul 2024

I just celebrated by donating $100.00 to Joe Biden.

Kablooie

(18,726 posts)
40. So if Trump wins and something happens to him ...
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:37 PM
Jul 2024

This guy will become the President of the United States and the most powerful person in the world.

But he’s chosen simply because he is the most subservient follower of all the candidates, exactly the kind of person who should never be given power.

Linda ladeewolf

(302 posts)
41. A question
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 12:30 AM
Jul 2024

Does anyone know if he can still be a senator at the same time he is on a presidential ticket? Will he lose his seat or will he still have a senate seat?

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,252 posts)
45. Ain't that the truth!
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 08:54 AM
Jul 2024

Apparently someone must have convinced Donnie Two Scoops to let her have her moment giving a speech at the convention before she is permanently exiled by MAGA.

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