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hay rick

(8,322 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:20 PM Jul 2024

Research shows more Americans support violence to stop a second Trump presidency than back violence in his favor

Source: The Guardian

A survey conducted in late June from the University of Chicago found that there is now more support for violence against Trump (10% of American adults, or 26 million people) compared with violence in favor of Trump (6.9%, or 18 million people). Until January, the survey showed there was more support for violence in favor of Trump.

And of the 26 million American adults who support violence to prevent Trump from regaining the presidency, more than 30% own guns and almost 80% have access to internet organizational tools.

............

On both sides, those that support violence are predominantly urban Americans.

The survey also found that 58.6% of American adults agree that in today’s America, elections will not solve the country’s most fundamental political and social problems.


Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/13/trump-rally-shooting-political-violence



This is a discussion that has been avoided so far. The polling cited suggests that "peace-loving liberals" are losing faith in the ability of America's democratic processes to deliver meaningful results or protect us from harm.
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Research shows more Americans support violence to stop a second Trump presidency than back violence in his favor (Original Post) hay rick Jul 2024 OP
Because there is no choice. The Grand Illuminist Jul 2024 #1
I have ammo. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #2
I've made the difficult decision to go ahead and purchase an M-14 just in case it truly comes down to that, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2024 #3
7.62 MM orangecrush Jul 2024 #9
Great movie. MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2024 #10
Read he ate tons of food orangecrush Jul 2024 #12
Just recently watched the remake of the Magnificent Seven with him in it, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2024 #13
If every one of those 26 million voted, Biden would win for sure. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #4
Let us not forget what Rs did on J6 KS Toronado Jul 2024 #15
Yeah it's been avoided so far, but when your back's to the wall... Talitha Jul 2024 #5
the 'polling' doesn't suggest any such thing stopdiggin Jul 2024 #6
The vast majority you cite is shrinking rapidly. hay rick Jul 2024 #11
you have no evidence for that stopdiggin Jul 2024 #18
Yep TommyT139 Jul 2024 #7
I was afraid orangecrush Jul 2024 #8
And some of that 10% are gunutpublicans BaronChocula Jul 2024 #14
Remember to believe every poll you read. SupportSanity Jul 2024 #16
Remember to dispute every poll you disagree with. hay rick Jul 2024 #17
MAGA still want your civil war ? republianmushroom Jul 2024 #19
Even the fucking Guardian can't call it what it is. Novara Jul 2024 #20

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,466 posts)
3. I've made the difficult decision to go ahead and purchase an M-14 just in case it truly comes down to that,
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:44 PM
Jul 2024

don't get me wrong, I don't want that to happen, but the way things are looking right now, I think its prudent to think ahead.

orangecrush

(22,130 posts)
9. 7.62 MM
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 10:50 PM
Jul 2024

Full Metal Jacket.

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"I am.
In a world.
Of SHIT!!!"

I always took this scene as a very sad metaphor for the epidemic of suicides along veterans.

orangecrush

(22,130 posts)
12. Read he ate tons of food
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 11:05 PM
Jul 2024

To gain weight for the part, and subsequently lost it to play Pyle in condition after training.

Amazing actor.

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,466 posts)
13. Just recently watched the remake of the Magnificent Seven with him in it,
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 11:10 PM
Jul 2024

great role as Jack Horne, but I'll always remember him as Detective Robert Goren on Law & Order, Criminal Intent.
As you said, an amazing actor.

SunSeeker

(54,064 posts)
4. If every one of those 26 million voted, Biden would win for sure.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:49 PM
Jul 2024

Hopefully they will realize their vote is even more powerful than a bullet.

KS Toronado

(19,703 posts)
15. Let us not forget what Rs did on J6
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 12:30 AM
Jul 2024

the majority of Rs refused to certify the election hoping to throw it to a House vote, they have more
House members this time around, they'll try again IMO.

stopdiggin

(13,018 posts)
6. the 'polling' doesn't suggest any such thing
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 10:12 PM
Jul 2024

The 'results' clearly say that only a very small fraction of Americans are either approving, or contemplating, violence as a political tool. And the vast, vast majority - just as clearly have no stomach or truck with such hair on fire notions.

stopdiggin

(13,018 posts)
18. you have no evidence for that
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 10:03 AM
Jul 2024

other than your person feelings.

Sorry - just not into any 'prepper' or 'doomsday' fantasizing today.

TommyT139

(751 posts)
7. Yep
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 10:16 PM
Jul 2024

Doesn't make sense that one side should refrain from using all the tools available when the other side is literally about to destroy not only the country, but any chances of mitigating climate disaster.

Most people, absent religious prohibitions, would protect their families.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
20. Even the fucking Guardian can't call it what it is.
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 12:02 PM
Jul 2024

This is specifically whipped up by republicans. MOST political violence is by republicans. And, as we've seen, republican-on-republican political violence is the way this usually goes.

You reap what you sow.

Lefties are not the people who are whipping it up although we may have to resort to violence to defend the country.

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