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BumRushDaShow

(137,091 posts)
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 08:37 AM Jul 25

U.S. economy grew at a 2.8% pace in the second quarter, much more than expected

Source: CNBC

Published Thu, Jul 25 2024 8:30 AM EDT Updated 11 Min Ago


Economic activity in the U.S. was considerably stronger than expected during the second quarter, according to an initial estimate Thursday from the Commerce Department.

Real gross domestic product, a measure of all the goods and services produced during the April-through-June period, increased at a 2.8% annualized pace adjusted for seasonality and inflation. Economists surveyed by Dow Jones had been looking for growth of 2.1% following a 1.4% increase in the first quarter.

Consumer spending helped propel the growth number higher, as did contributions from private inventory investment and nonresidential fixed investment.



Personal consumption expenditures, the main proxy in the Bureau of Economic Analysis report for consumer activity, increased 2.3% for the quarter, up from the 1.5% acceleration in Q1. Both services and goods spending saw solid increases for the quarter.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/25/us-gdp-q2-2024.html



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Article updated.

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Published Thu, Jul 25 2024 8:30 AM EDT Updated 4 Min Ago


Economic activity in the U.S. was considerably stronger than expected during the second quarter, according to an initial estimate Thursday from the Commerce Department.

Real gross domestic product, a measure of all the goods and services produced during the April-through-June period, increased at a 2.8% annualized pace adjusted for seasonality and inflation. Economists surveyed by Dow Jones had been looking for growth of 2.1% following a 1.4% increase in the first quarter.

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U.S. economy grew at a 2.8% pace in the second quarter, much more than expected (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 25 OP
Thank you Joe!!' MaryMagdaline Jul 25 #1
You can hear the disappointment in their voices BeyondGeography Jul 25 #2
Repubs in ruin Dopers_Greed Jul 25 #3
Fueled by fossil fuels progree Jul 25 #4
Yup BumRushDaShow Jul 25 #6
I found this in the Environment & Energy Group, in part about storms and Houston progree Jul 25 #10
Well maybe that is good that some of them BumRushDaShow Jul 25 #11
Thank You President Biden and VP Harris IronLionZion Jul 25 #5
Hear, hear peppertree Jul 25 #13
It's a real plus that the economy and jobs are doing well. Downturns always provide a lot of material for negative ads. Martin68 Jul 25 #7
That Joe never received his just due not fooled Jul 25 #8
It is not political history, but rather the MSM repeating Trump's hysteria and their own doom prognostications fed Ford_Prefect Jul 25 #9
Core PCE that comes with the GDP report rose at a 2.9% annual rate in Q2 progree Jul 25 #12
Bidenomics works! Mysterian Jul 25 #14
Thank you Dark Brandon Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 25 #15
But, but, voters are worry about the economy under President Biden.. question everything Jul 26 #16

progree

(11,389 posts)
4. Fueled by fossil fuels
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 09:34 AM
Jul 25

Last edited Thu Jul 25, 2024, 10:48 AM - Edit history (2)

"No Country In History Has Extracted As Much Oil As The US In Each Of The Past Six Years"
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1127175126

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Lifetime GHG Output Of Oil & Gas Licenses Granted In 2024 Equals China's Annual GHG Emissions
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1127175102

A surge in new oil and gas production in 2024 threatens to unleash nearly 12bn tonnes of planet-heating emissions, with the world’s wealthiest countries – such as the US and the UK – leading a stampede of fossil fuel expansion in spite of their climate commitments, new data shared exclusively with the Guardian reveals. The new oil and gas field licences forecast to be awarded across the world this year are on track to generate the highest level of emissions since those issued in 2018

More on recent U.S. oil and gas licenses in the 4th paragraph of the above article.

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https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1127&pid=175066
U.S. ENERGY CONSUMPTION SHARES, 2023: Totals 93.59 quadrillion BTUs. There is a pie chart breakdown of the components. The fossil share is 83%, nuclear is 9%, solar and wind combined is 2.6% and other renewables is 6.4%. The other renewables -- in descending order of size -- are biomass, hydroelectric, and geothermal)

The U.S. Energy Consumption shares above is from the pie chart in https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/us-energy-facts/


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Also from the above us-energy-facts link. The bottom 4 bands are all fossil fuels. So, to see the combined total of fossil fuels, look at the top of the light pink band:.



It is interesting that the total fossil fuel production in BTUs (top of the light pink band) was essentially flat from 1970 to 2007, and then very sad that it went sharply up from there.

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It's instructive to occasionally just look at the headlines in the Environment and Energy Group
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1127

BumRushDaShow

(137,091 posts)
6. Yup
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 10:29 AM
Jul 25

"We're #1" (although Hurricane Beryl shut down some platforms so am not sure how much of an impact that might have for the 3rd qtr GDP).

Last year, the tropical cyclones mostly steered clear of the GOM.

progree

(11,389 posts)
10. I found this in the Environment & Energy Group, in part about storms and Houston
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:06 PM
Jul 25
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1127175123
Credit: mahatmakanejeeves
I excerpted just the last 2 paragraphs of the excerpt
Companies are reshaping operations to cope with a changing climate, Washington Post, 7/25/24

In Houston, a company called UPG, which makes precisely formed plastic parts, lost almost two weeks of production after powerful storms knocked out power three times in the last four months. For the company’s owners, the serial outages were the latest evidence that business as usual was no longer an option.

“It’s getting to the point where the impacts are making us miss our forecasts. It’s hurting us financially and it’s affecting our customers,” said Scott Bekemeyer, co-chairman of the Partner Companies (TPC), a consortium that owns UPG and nine other manufacturers.


hatrack's response is very much on point:

The first wave was reinsurance companies.

The second wave was insurance companies.

The third wave? Everybody else.

BumRushDaShow

(137,091 posts)
11. Well maybe that is good that some of them
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:19 PM
Jul 25

are realizing the risk of having a single point of failure and are actually looking at scary words like "backup" and "redundancy"!

peppertree

(22,558 posts)
13. Hear, hear
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 04:45 PM
Jul 25

We'd have a full-on banking collapse by now, had Cheeto managed to self-coup himself into a second term.

To say nothing of wars in Iran and Venezuela.

Martin68

(23,961 posts)
7. It's a real plus that the economy and jobs are doing well. Downturns always provide a lot of material for negative ads.
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 11:19 AM
Jul 25

The irony, of course, is that they will just lie about the economy and jobs and their hard core Fox watchers will swallow their lies hook, line, and sinker. But that's not enough to win an election at this point.

not fooled

(5,972 posts)
8. That Joe never received his just due
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 11:25 AM
Jul 25

from much of the electorate is IMO one of the great injustices in American political history. And, probably evidence for the failure of the corporate media to adequately and accurately inform the American public. Or, in the case of faux and other propaganda outlets, to actively lie to the public.

Ford_Prefect

(8,148 posts)
9. It is not political history, but rather the MSM repeating Trump's hysteria and their own doom prognostications fed
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 11:30 AM
Jul 25

to them by the powers that be holding all the money.

progree

(11,389 posts)
12. Core PCE that comes with the GDP report rose at a 2.9% annual rate in Q2
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:51 PM
Jul 25
The Fed's Key Inflation Rate Overshoots As GDP Rebounds; S&P 500 Bounces, Investor Business Daily, 7/25/24

The Federal Reserve's key inflation rate came in a touch hotter than expected in the second quarter, as U.S. GDP growth perked up after a slow start to the year, the Commerce Department reported Thursday. The S&P 500 rebounded from Wednesday's sharp sell-off, as investors weighed the implications for the rate-cut outlook. The Federal Reserve's primary inflation gauge, the core PCE (personal consumption expenditures) price index, rose at a 2.9% annual rate in Q2, above 2.7% forecasts.

... Headline inflation slowed to a 2.6% annualized rate in Q2, down from 3.4% in Q1.

The quarterly core PCE inflation data provides a preview of Friday's big inflation report, which will break out monthly increases in the core PCE price index.

Prior to the GDP data, Wall Street expected a 0.2% increase in core PCE prices for June, lowering the 12-month core PCE inflation rate to 2.5%. However, the above-expected Q2 rise in core PCE prices suggests either June's increase will come in on the high side, or prior data was revised higher.

More: https://finance.yahoo.com/m/7963bf1c-f7f2-39f2-bbaa-4353cbd44cd9/the-fed-s-key-inflation-rate.html
(I'm using this link because it might make the Investor Business Daily one free)


Anyway, tomorrow is the big PCE inflation report for June, the Fed's favorite gauge and all that. 8:30 AM Philadelphia Daylight Time
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