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BumRushDaShow

(137,091 posts)
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:49 PM Jul 25

Appeals court just gave Jack Smith a deadline to file arguments against Judge Cannon's dismissal

Source: Law & Crime

Jul 25th, 2024, 12:20 pm


After Jack Smith promptly filed a notice of appeal eight days ago following U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon’s repudiation of his authority to prosecute Donald Trump in the Mar-a-Lago classified documents case, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit has set a deadline for the special counsel to submit his brief. That deadline is just over a month from now.

In mid-July, Cannon — a Trump appointee who warmed to the arguments of conservative amici curiae and a concurrence penned by Justice Clarence Thomas in the Supreme Court immunity case Trump v. United States — ruled after “careful study” that the Mar-a-Lago indictment for willful retention of national defense information had to be thrown out because, in her view, U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland unlawfully appointed Jack Smith as special counsel in violation of the Appointments Clause of the Constitution.

“Both the Appointments and Appropriations challenges as framed in the Motion raise the following threshold question: is there a statute in the United States Code that authorizes the appointment of Special Counsel Smith to conduct this prosecution? After careful study of this seminal issue, the answer is no,” she wrote, roundly rejecting the statutory authorities Smith cited and calling the special counsel a “private citizen exercising the full power of a United States Attorney, and with very little oversight or supervision.”

It was always clear that the Special Counsel’s Office would appeal, and that notice of appeal dropped two days after the dismissal order, setting up a showdown at the 11th Circuit — the appellate court that put a unanimous and definitive end to Cannon’s special master and her blocking of the feds from reviewing classified documents seized from Mar-a-Lago after the August 2022 search. “Pursuant to 11th Cir. R. 31-1(a), the appellant’s brief is due August 27, 2024.

Read more: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/appeals-court-just-gave-jack-smith-a-deadline-to-file-arguments-against-judge-cannons-dismissal-of-trumps-mar-a-lago-prosecution/



Full headline: Appeals court just gave Jack Smith a deadline to file arguments against Judge Cannon’s dismissal of Trump’s Mar-a-Lago prosecution

Link to BRIEFING (PDF) - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca11.87822/gov.uscourts.ca11.87822.12.0.pdf

Smith can submit anytime BEFORE August 27 and the defense has to submit a response within 30 days of Smith's last submission. It wasn't expected that this would go to trial before the election although at this point, convictions for criminal offenses HAVE happened thanks to NY, so...
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Appeals court just gave Jack Smith a deadline to file arguments against Judge Cannon's dismissal (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 25 OP
He's probably already got it ready intrepidity Jul 25 #1
I think you're right. Happy Hoosier Jul 25 #2
Jack S is as sharp as a whip, and you're probably right, that he's got several responses ready, for what ever SWBTATTReg Jul 25 #4
I think there is little chance he'll file anything before the end of this week. onenote Jul 25 #8
That's a bet you would have lost. onenote Aug 5 #22
Yup. intrepidity Aug 5 #23
My heart is breaking ... FakeNoose Jul 25 #3
It IS a confusing title. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 25 #6
It's because the whole headline won't fit in the "Story title" field BumRushDaShow Jul 25 #10
Suuurre. We all know it's your evil plot to [something something]. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 25 #16
... BumRushDaShow Jul 25 #17
Someone should find the advisor common to both Clearance Thomas and Loose Cannon. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 25 #5
There's no way she's doing anything by herself. rubbersole Jul 25 #12
It's been a rough week for Trumpsky. Harker Jul 25 #7
Awesome news! I love 😍 that this keeps trumpty dumpty's name in the news world of criminal courts. iluvtennis Jul 25 #9
US Code allows. Cannon is a hack pfitz59 Jul 25 #11
Come on NHvet Jul 25 #13
and they've got the judges to prove it barbtries Jul 25 #15
That isn't a US Code provision. Its a regulation adopted by DOJ. onenote Jul 25 #14
Would that regulation have passed Congressional review? Hermit-The-Prog Jul 25 #19
The Congressional Review process did not apply to the adoption of 28 CFR 600. onenote Jul 25 #20
Thanks Hermit-The-Prog Jul 25 #21
Not worried at all AverageOldGuy Jul 25 #18

Happy Hoosier

(8,038 posts)
2. I think you're right.
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 02:59 PM
Jul 25

But it did take him awhile because the ruling was so off-the-wall, I don't think he had even a draft briefing in work.

SWBTATTReg

(23,443 posts)
4. Jack S is as sharp as a whip, and you're probably right, that he's got several responses ready, for what ever
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 03:09 PM
Jul 25

response he needs for the Appeals Court.

onenote

(43,819 posts)
8. I think there is little chance he'll file anything before the end of this week.
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 04:09 PM
Jul 25

But I do think he will file before August 27.

FakeNoose

(34,592 posts)
3. My heart is breaking ...
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 03:04 PM
Jul 25

The first time I read the headline, I thought it said Judge Cannon got dismissed. I thought to myself, "Why would Jack Smith argue against her being dismissed?"

BumRushDaShow

(137,091 posts)
10. It's because the whole headline won't fit in the "Story title" field
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 04:27 PM
Jul 25

That is why I have a "Full headline:" line in the comments.

rubbersole

(7,871 posts)
12. There's no way she's doing anything by herself.
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 04:37 PM
Jul 25

Leonard Leo has her on speed dial. Uncle Clarence just needs direct deposit.

pfitz59

(10,696 posts)
11. US Code allows. Cannon is a hack
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 04:31 PM
Jul 25

"§ 600.1 Grounds for appointing a Special Counsel.
The Attorney General, or in cases in which the Attorney General is recused, the Acting Attorney General, will appoint a Special Counsel when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted and—

(a) That investigation or prosecution of that person or matter by a United States Attorney's Office or litigating Division of the Department of Justice would present a conflict of interest for the Department or other extraordinary circumstances; and

(b) That under the circumstances, it would be in the public interest to appoint an outside Special Counsel to assume responsibility for the matter."
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.1

NHvet

(249 posts)
13. Come on
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 04:38 PM
Jul 25

You should know by now, that laws, rules , norms and just basic facts are for others. The GQP lives in the alternate universe where they can do as they well please, damn the rest of us, laws or no laws.

onenote

(43,819 posts)
14. That isn't a US Code provision. Its a regulation adopted by DOJ.
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 05:08 PM
Jul 25

The full citation is 28 Code of Federal Regulations 600.1

I think that Cannon's decision is wrong and should be reversed, but a CFR provision is not an act of congress.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,123 posts)
19. Would that regulation have passed Congressional review?
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 06:46 PM
Jul 25
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/801
5 U.S. Code § 801 - Congressional review
(a)
(1)
(A) Before a rule can take effect, the Federal agency promulgating such rule shall submit to each House of the Congress and to the Comptroller General a report containing—
(i) a copy of the rule;
(ii) a concise general statement relating to the rule, including whether it is a major rule; and
(iii) the proposed effective date of the rule.


There's a bunch more, but I got lost in it.

It finishes with something that seems to apply here:
(g) If the Congress does not enact a joint resolution of disapproval under section 802 respecting a rule, no court or agency may infer any intent of the Congress from any action or inaction of the Congress with regard to such rule, related statute, or joint resolution of disapproval.


IANAL or paralegal, just curious.

onenote

(43,819 posts)
20. The Congressional Review process did not apply to the adoption of 28 CFR 600.
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 07:20 PM
Jul 25
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1999-07-09/pdf/99-17327.pdf
See the discussion under the heading Small Business Regulatory Enforcement Fairness Act of 1996 on page 37041.

And even if the review process had applied, as your post indicates, failure by Congress to disapprove doesn't allow a court to infer any intent of Congress, so it wouldn't transform this agency action into a law enacted by Congress.

AverageOldGuy

(1,812 posts)
18. Not worried at all
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 06:36 PM
Jul 25

Smith has his appeal ready to go. He's just sharpening it so he can shove it all the way up Judge Loose Cannon's ass.

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