Who cares if they "lash out"?

and there will be war crime tribunals.

Will the ICC try any Hamas leaders, or will it just be Israelis tried in absentia?

Netanyahu/Likud and the Hamas leadership.

Agreed? Aren't you tired of this war? The entire ME should be tired of 75 years of this crap, and working their hardest to get to a ceasefire and a two-state solution.

I was tired of it when I 1st learned about it during the 1972 Olympics. I was 8.

I just don't believe there will ever be any accountability for War Crimes committed - by either side.

traveling for fear of being arrested and hauled off to the Hague.

If that's the way it has to be, so be it. They'll be prisoners in their compounds like Bin Laden was until the piper cam for him.

We're past that, the grievances on both sides are too long and convoluted. What's needed is Peace. It's more important than blame, or justice. I think the model should be Truth and Reconciliation commissions or something like that going forward. but that starts with flat out unconditional Peace.

Peace feels ever more remote.

to get to that. So far that has not worked as having the war continue keeps certain parties out of jail, and others holed up in their comfortable digs in other countries.

She has not said before. What she said was measured and straight forward. At the end of the day this is likely posturing in the press and I think tht deal will go through but I think Bibi is finally done running Israel.

doesn’t register with that crowd.

A more useful saying “Fuck around and find out”.

This lady don’t play.

"Tug on my tail and find out" was a good saying.

. . . is that by their own words, Hamas does not want peace, nor do they want a two-state solution. They want a one-state solution, absent of all Jews.

They have promised to repeat Oct 7-type events until all Jews are dead.

To have peace, both sides must want peace. At this point in time, a cease-fire would just give Hamas the chance to regroup, re-arm, and get ready for the next massacre.

Or perhaps I'm wrong. If so, please point me to Hamas leadership, which is asking for a peaceful solution.

The error in your reasoning is that you can’t kill an idea. What Hamas did was horrendous with no justification. But the longer this type of fighting continues, literally the more terrorists you create. I certainly don’t have a solution to what appears to be an intractable problem, but wholesale slaughter of innocents on either side certainly isn’t it.

. . . Oct 7 was an unprovoked attack. Hamas promised to do it again and again. Israel has every right to root out the perpetrators and do their best to recover the hostages. There was a de facto 2-state solution prior to Oct 7 as Gaza had it's own government and no Israelis were in the strip. It was not enough for Gaza, and they tortured, burned, decapitated, murdered, raped, and kidnapped for the most part innocent civilians.

What would people have Israel do? Whatever they did would be smeared by the international community because, well, Jew-hate.
Of maybe they should just roll over and take it and enjoy it? Seems to be what the world wants.
Or perhaps they should have killed exactly as many Palestinians as Palestinians killed on Oct 7 and then stopped? People seem to believe that.

Jeeze, I'm losing faith in human intelligence.

And yes, of course. Peace is important. Israel is basically a peaceful multi-cultural and multi-ethnic society. It works there. But the Gazan's do not want peace. If they did, they would have it.

It doesn't represent all Palestinians.

That has an appropriate ring to it here.

And I have no problem with what she said.

in Israel and trying to generate usable talking points for the GQP/MAGA crowd here in the US.

9 months into this conflict the Israelis have destroyed most of the hospitals, universities, infrastructure, farms, large machinery and housing there is no end to what hate can justify. At some point you need to figure you've punished them enough and end this carnage. Time for a truce.