but many people are ready to do so, any minute now

/s

I know I seem heartless but 4 grieving families added to a stack of millions due to US gun violence not likely to lead to any changes

People want gun rights? This is what you get.

Why have guns? Self defense or overthrow tyrannies. What other excuses have been offered? Do we figure either of those reasons was in play here? Self defense against 4 people, all now dead?

I would assert that is the same with almost all other gun violence in the US - not for self defense (the tyranny argument is too silly to be worth repeating).

Also, it's too bad the millions of grieving families of gun violence victims somehow don't have the political power to overcome the racism that is at the root of the need for gun ownership in this country.

Sympathy for those grieving doesn't seem to have accomplished anything towards preventing this happening again and again and again

What exactly are you thinking?????

and no good reason for them

These stories are daily, if not more frequent.

Pointless, like most gun deaths in this nation.

Just the way Gunners like it.

The news in Chicago reported that it was a licensed security guard and a state certified firearms instructor.

That's absolutely awful.

He is a young black man who had some gun charges previously -- but they were dropped.