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BumRushDaShow

(137,634 posts)
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 03:04 PM Sep 5

America's Grandparents Have New Reason to Hate JD Vance

Source: Daily Beast

Published Sep. 05, 2024 2:04PM EDT


JD Vance said his solution to the rising cost of daycare is asking family members to pitch in and abolishing “ridiculous” certifications for child care workers. Maybe grandpa and grandma want to help a little bit more. Maybe there’s an uncle or aunt who wants to help a little bit more,” the GOP vice presidential nominee told Charlie Kirk at a Turning Point USA event on Wednesday. According to Vance, for those without access to family members, “empowering people to get the skills they need” is crucial to bringing down daycare costs.

He added, “We’ve got a lot of people who love kids, who would love to take care of kids, but who can’t.” Vance, former President Donald Trump’s running mate, attributed this dilemma, in part, to inaccessible education. “Or, maybe more importantly, because the state government says you’re not allowed to take care of children unless you have some ridiculous certification that has nothing to do with taking care of kids,” he said.

Vance’s comments quickly gained traction on social media, with “Grandma and Grandpa” trending on X. Users on the platform slammed the Ohio statesman for being “out of touch.” One parent quipped “I tried this approach to lowering daycare costs before my youngest started school, but every time I asked my parents for help watching my daughter, they were dead.” ​​Chasten Glezman Buttigieg, husband of Pete Buttigieg, also also chimed in, writing, “Ask grandma to watch them for free is not policy.”

“Maybe Grandma and Grandma still work. Maybe Grandma and Grandpa have health issues. Maybe Grandma and Grandpa live 1000 miles away. Maybe Grandma and Grandpa don’t want to. The RNC shouldn’t be planning Grandma and Grandpa’s retirement for them,” Jacie Floyd posted on the app.

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America's Grandparents Have New Reason to Hate JD Vance (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 5 OP
We've also got a lot of weirdos BoRaGard Sep 5 #1
This is so retro it's astonishing. yardwork Sep 5 #2
And we give em guns BattleRow Sep 5 #18
Foot in Mouth Disease: A rare medical disorder afflicting GOP presidential aspirants. C0RI0LANUS Sep 5 #3
The disorder is much deeper. Marcuse Sep 5 #21
Good shot! "Head Up Ass Disorder," a strange condition that afflicts GOP presidential candidates. (PS Great avatar). C0RI0LANUS Sep 5 #39
That condition implies "willful" ignorance. I'm afraid it's MUCH WORSE: AZ8theist Sep 6 #54
Grandpa and grandma need to quit their jobs duncang Sep 5 #4
Ya know what JD's grandma did to JD'S grandpa? vanlassie Sep 5 #16
I think Trump needs to drop out of the race and look after his grandchildren Bev54 Sep 5 #33
My thought, EXACTLY! 70sEraVet Sep 5 #43
Guess JD lays around all day having.weird ideas delisen Sep 5 #53
Uncompensated Female Labor is their policy GopherGal Sep 5 #5
Or at least UNDER-compensated... GopherGal Sep 5 #6
dear usha et tu Sep 5 #7
" abolishing "ridiculous" certifications for child care workers .... " Botany Sep 5 #8
J.D. Guy-Liner Diamond_Dog Sep 5 #10
I take credit for that name. You heard it here on DU 1st. Botany Sep 5 #13
Oh, believe me, I won't! Diamond_Dog Sep 5 #14
My first reaction as well-- birdographer Sep 5 #22
And don't forget his grandpa and grandma being free child care too. That is a real vote getter. Botany Sep 5 #30
He's a mole on the butt of the republican party, that's for sure DBoon Sep 5 #36
This dimbub thinks teaching is "easy," that teaching degrees are "easy." Only stupid people become teachers. valleyrogue Sep 5 #46
How can someone his age be so mentally planted in the 1950s? Diamond_Dog Sep 5 #9
Maybe he was home schooled..... AZ8theist Sep 5 #25
A lot of them actually think the sitcoms of the era were the way it was. valleyrogue Sep 5 #47
I can't imagine how his wife feels about all this garbage he spews. Diamond_Dog Sep 5 #48
LOL parents be like GusBob Sep 5 #11
What law keeps relatives from watching children? viva la Sep 5 #12
Chasten Glezman Buttigieg, also also chimed in, writing, "Ask grandma to watch them for free is not policy" Coexist Sep 5 #15
Nobody knew childcare was so complicated Ol Janx Spirit Sep 5 #17
What if there are no grandparents BattleRow Sep 5 #19
Now Vantz wants grandparents to be enslaved. GQP party of slavery. Clouds Passing Sep 5 #20
What a novel idea. Have family help with day care. rickford66 Sep 5 #23
Pretty much the only criteria I know in PA Trenzalore Sep 5 #24
Grrrrr!!!! perdita9 Sep 5 #26
ME!! (anybody who has seen the purses I carry. . .) niyad Sep 5 #35
He is one nasty, self righteous, arrogant, tiny little mfer. No. Magoo48 Sep 5 #27
I would much rather they had a special place in their "christian" hell. Last niyad Sep 5 #34
EVERYONE knows the state doesn't require certification for relatives to watch children iemanja Sep 5 #28
He acts like Grandma and Grandpa have only one child who has only one child. Bev54 Sep 5 #29
Milwaukee Irish julmur Sep 5 #31
Ohio "statesman"??? Are they f'n kidding? Senator he may be, Goddess help us, niyad Sep 5 #32
Granny and Papa are too busy working at Walmart so they can make ends meet Bayard Sep 5 #37
JD is just a blinkered, pg ignorant little putz who thinks he's come up with brilliant solutions Warpy Sep 5 #38
you don't need state certification to care for members of your own family OR you get $ from state Hamlette Sep 5 #40
We need to inject another issue into this insanity jmowreader Sep 5 #41
Take away birth control and expect the grandparents StarryNite Sep 5 #42
Or have a passel of kids Marthe48 Sep 5 #44
Maybe they should do away with law degrees, especially those from overrated law schools. valleyrogue Sep 5 #45
I'm grandfather to ten grandchildren. Aristus Sep 5 #49
Bejaysus, Aristus, how can you be so selfish? BTW, so does my SIL. She's generous with her time... Hekate Sep 5 #51
Following RW logic, what this country *needs* is a permanent impoverished underclass... Hekate Sep 5 #50
So...he's saying... LudwigPastorius Sep 5 #52
Vance gets out of bed in the morning and thinks: Aussie105 Sep 6 #55
I don't think having my children watched by corpses would have... NNadir Sep 6 #56
Hello perfect stranger who needs a bath; and who has meth-mouth; and an ankle-monitor; * Oopsie Daisy Sep 6 #57
Ha Pugee Sep 6 #58
We need more that "weird" to define this moron. RealityCheque Sep 6 #59

yardwork

(63,339 posts)
2. This is so retro it's astonishing.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 03:09 PM
Sep 5

We don't need no stinking gubmint oversight. We kin eddycate our own kids and we don't need no healthcare policies either - except for wimmen who want healthcare we have rules and regulations.

C0RI0LANUS

(807 posts)
39. Good shot! "Head Up Ass Disorder," a strange condition that afflicts GOP presidential candidates. (PS Great avatar).
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 05:28 PM
Sep 5

AZ8theist

(6,117 posts)
54. That condition implies "willful" ignorance. I'm afraid it's MUCH WORSE:
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 02:08 AM
Sep 6
It is, unfortunately, TERMINAL.

duncang

(2,758 posts)
4. Grandpa and grandma need to quit their jobs
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 03:15 PM
Sep 5

To take care of the grandkids because JD thinks they just lay around all day. Then why does tfg/jd want grandpa and grandma working until they are 75?

vanlassie

(5,838 posts)
16. Ya know what JD's grandma did to JD'S grandpa?
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 03:58 PM
Sep 5

SHE SET HIM ON FIRE and let the grandchild she was “taking care of” put him out.

70sEraVet

(3,934 posts)
43. My thought, EXACTLY!
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 06:50 PM
Sep 5

You know darned well his kids aren't going to entrust THEIR kids to his brand of 'caregiving'.
Ivanka won't, for SURE!

delisen

(6,330 posts)
53. Guess JD lays around all day having.weird ideas
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 10:19 PM
Sep 5

His mother in law took a sabbatical to come visit and get to know her grandchild. J D misinterpreted that as being her sole purpose in life- to come take care of his child, and then decides that this is the purpose of all older women.

I suspect he does have a fundamental human relationship problem.

GopherGal

(2,234 posts)
5. Uncompensated Female Labor is their policy
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 03:16 PM
Sep 5

To give Shady's response more credibility than it deserves, I don't think it's lack of education/certifications keeping grandparents from providing daycare. The only thing lack of education might be doing is preventing people from providing daycare *FOR COMPENSATION*

Botany

(71,768 posts)
8. " abolishing "ridiculous" certifications for child care workers .... "
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 03:32 PM
Sep 5

Last edited Fri Sep 6, 2024, 07:58 AM - Edit history (1)

Who wants background checks on people who work with and or around children?

By just how many millions of votes does J.D. Guy-Liner want to have him and Trump
lose by? How many Americans still carry the scares of abuse at the hands of a teacher,
a priest, a day care worker, and or a coach?

Botany

(71,768 posts)
13. I take credit for that name. You heard it here on DU 1st.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 03:38 PM
Sep 5

I beg of you PLEASE don’t spread that nome de guerre around the internets because it
would really stick.

birdographer

(2,164 posts)
22. My first reaction as well--
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 04:34 PM
Sep 5

silly certification! Eliminating sex offenders is SO unfair and unnecessary! Why would anyone taking care of your young child need to know CPR or Heimlich? Get serious! Think of all the male babysitters champing at the bit to have some alone time with your little girl, with that ridiculous certification thing getting in the way!

Maybe Shady is a plant to lose voters, he's been the mole in the GOP all this time. It sure seems like it.

Botany

(71,768 posts)
30. And don't forget his grandpa and grandma being free child care too. That is a real vote getter.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 04:53 PM
Sep 5

BTW I am betting on Trump losing by 20 million this time because he, Guy-Liner, and
the GOP have pissed off and or are pissing off huge blocks of the American population.

Women, senior citizens, the military, families and friends of the military, unions, teachers,
blacks, Latino y Latinas, the LGBT communities, the young, Mormons, (some of the elders
in the LDS church are telling people to vote for Harris although Utah is most likely out of
play), all the mouth breathers who are sitting in jail because of J-6th (which Trump has now
admitted was a lie), Republicans for Harris, survivors of rape and sexual abuse, the tens of
thousands of contractors and suppliers that he screwed over, Liz Cheney, people who don’t
cheat when they golf, Jews, environmentalists, doctors, nurses, men who love women, and I
have to stop. Btw how many and how much does he owe to his lawyers?

Btw America still has a 25 to 35% piece of the population that will always vote Trump because
they are racist and they like the fact he is an asshole too.

valleyrogue

(706 posts)
46. This dimbub thinks teaching is "easy," that teaching degrees are "easy." Only stupid people become teachers.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 08:25 PM
Sep 5

That is the mentality of most of the homeschooling crowd. Just pop out a baby, and they think anybody can teach. The real reason for the homeschooling scheme isn't for the kids, but to tie women even more to the house and force them out of the workplace. For all their boasting they could teach, these people wouldn't last five minutes in a classroom. It is about the hardest job out there, bar none. You NEED the breaks during winter, spring, and summer.

The younger the kids, the harder the job is. The trend is to make pre-school more professional and even have school districts involved.

It's not fucking babysitting.

valleyrogue

(706 posts)
47. A lot of them actually think the sitcoms of the era were the way it was.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 08:28 PM
Sep 5

All those "housewives" depicted on those shows were career women--actresses--who made a good living and most of them had kids at home. Most of these wingnuts were not around then and the early 1960s to know just how terrible that era was, especially for women. Those of us who lived through that era know better.

One of the reasons the late 1960s so shook up this country was because it was a reaction to the very reactionary 1950s. The 1950s and early 1960s sucked.

Diamond_Dog

(33,764 posts)
48. I can't imagine how his wife feels about all this garbage he spews.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 08:35 PM
Sep 5

Surely no young women pine for a return to how it was for women in the 1950s.

viva la

(3,650 posts)
12. What law keeps relatives from watching children?
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 03:35 PM
Sep 5

I guess he thinks all grandparents (but not HIS parents... just his in-laws) can take a leave of absence, not get fired, and spend a year earning no income to watch the children of these rich parents.

It's like he thinks people work for fun... not for money. So they're selfish if they don't quit work to watch all these kids.

Coexist

(25,294 posts)
15. Chasten Glezman Buttigieg, also also chimed in, writing, "Ask grandma to watch them for free is not policy"
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 03:45 PM
Sep 5

Ol Janx Spirit

(7 posts)
17. Nobody knew childcare was so complicated
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 04:09 PM
Sep 5

As bad as Vance’s answer was, amazingly it was better than his boss’ answer to the same question: “...I want to stay with child care… So we'll take care of it. Thank you.” Vance at least made a halfhearted attempt at some policy point. A very very bad one—granted—but something that if you look sideways at it sort of resembles other GOP “ideas.” It is funny though that this seems to be yet another area where the GOP is all for state’s rights until they aren’t since he specifically mentions that state governments are largely responsible for overseeing childcare programs. Clearly his idea here is that if you just stop requiring people to know what they are doing you can reduce costs by putting them in place—because you really can’t ask people to pay a premium for unskilled labor now can you? That actually does beat “we’ll take care of it.” There is at least a thought behind it. I suppose next Vance will suggest that maybe we could save money on law enforcement, fire fighting and healthcare by getting rid of all those “ridiculous” certifications. And I guess Aunt Becky can just open up a facility in her house to save on that pesky commercial rent…. And it would smack of regulation to check the sex offenders database for the name of anyone living there I suppose. Meanwhile I feel certain that his wealthy backers like Paul Singer hire thoroughly background-checked live-in nannies with degrees in psychology and early childhood education. Still, there is a thought behind it—unlike the “we’ll take care of it” line his boss uses. That should remind everyone of the promise to fix healthcare on day one—only to later claim nobody knew healthcare was so complicated. And that was back when his mind was...well...sharper?

Trenzalore

(2,466 posts)
24. Pretty much the only criteria I know in PA
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 04:38 PM
Sep 5

Is you pass a child abuse clearance and a health inspection of a facility.....that seems to be reasonable unless you are a child molester or have an unsafe space.

perdita9

(1,160 posts)
26. Grrrrr!!!!
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 04:40 PM
Sep 5

Not everyone has family members who live close by who can help out. Not everyone has family members who can be trusted with child care.

I'm not a violent person, but I would love to see an elderly woman hit J.D. Vance upside the head with her purse on live television.

Magoo48

(4,986 posts)
27. He is one nasty, self righteous, arrogant, tiny little mfer. No.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 04:47 PM
Sep 5

He and the Orange Menace will have a special place history.

iemanja

(53,994 posts)
28. EVERYONE knows the state doesn't require certification for relatives to watch children
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 04:50 PM
Sep 5

He assumes everyone is as stupid as he is.

Bev54

(11,390 posts)
29. He acts like Grandma and Grandpa have only one child who has only one child.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 04:52 PM
Sep 5

Grandma and Grandpa maybe have 3 kids who each have 2 or 4 kids and they are supposed to look after all those kids and give up their lives, have to buy a minivan just to go anywhere, feed them all for free?

julmur

(96 posts)
31. Milwaukee Irish
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 04:55 PM
Sep 5

Ok, just so I understand this correctly, the gop wants to raise the retirement age, they want grandparents to be free day care ( while apparently still working), they want to abolish any certification requirements for daycare workers ( who already are typically very underpaid) and they want to ban reproductive rights, there in resulting in more kiddos & working parents. Sounds like a super duper economic plan!!

niyad

(117,936 posts)
32. Ohio "statesman"??? Are they f'n kidding? Senator he may be, Goddess help us,
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 04:55 PM
Sep 5

but "statesman" he most assuredly is NOT!!!

Bayard

(23,541 posts)
37. Granny and Papa are too busy working at Walmart so they can make ends meet
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 05:04 PM
Sep 5

No time for free childcare, even if they wanted to.

Warpy

(112,767 posts)
38. JD is just a blinkered, pg ignorant little putz who thinks he's come up with brilliant solutions
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 05:12 PM
Sep 5

to keep chold care as slave labor for somebody and that one size will fit all.

Somebody needs to tell JD that his muzzy headed, sentimental ideal of the multi generational family crammed into a single house died very quickly as soon as Granny and Gramps could afford it because it was pure hell for everybody, the adults constantly bickering and the kids having to grow up listening to it.

Of course, he's so comvinced of his own brilliance in coming up with a novel solution that he wouldn't believe it.

That's why6 we have to jeeo away from the Vice Presidency and throw our support to his next opponent in Ohio. Maybe he can go back to fleecing investors and open a church with the proceeds.

Hamlette

(15,475 posts)
40. you don't need state certification to care for members of your own family OR you get $ from state
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 05:29 PM
Sep 5

what an idiot. I'm starting to think these guys (trump and vance) hear something or read something online and think it is true.

You don't need to take classes, you don't need to get a credential or license or anything to babysit your grandkids. Or even to care for them full time unless you want the state to pay for your time.

jmowreader

(51,120 posts)
41. We need to inject another issue into this insanity
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 05:34 PM
Sep 5

Some people don't even HAVE grandparents, grandparents that like their families, or grandparents in the same area that they are. Both my grandfathers died before I was seven. One of my grandmothers lived 300 miles from us and didn't like my family because we dropped out of Catholicism after her husband died. The other one lived 450 miles from us and didn't like my family because Dad didn't want to be a sheep farmer and went into civil engineering for the government. If we were counting on a grandparent to raise us so Mom could have gone back to work, we would have been royally screwed.

StarryNite

(10,401 posts)
42. Take away birth control and expect the grandparents
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 05:40 PM
Sep 5

to care for numerous grandchildren from their numerous kids. Yeah, that sounds about right. On top of that destroy public education and you wind up with a whole bunch of worker bees for the wealthy.

Marthe48

(18,359 posts)
44. Or have a passel of kids
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 07:25 PM
Sep 5

And make the oldest care for the youngest. That's another passe family model.
I can't count how many of the oldest children stuck in that role didn't get married and didn't want kids.

Do the rwnj jobs realize that NOBODY is going back? And the people who accept this bs have never moved forward?

valleyrogue

(706 posts)
45. Maybe they should do away with law degrees, especially those from overrated law schools.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 08:15 PM
Sep 5

This lazy asshole wouldn't deign to do any of these childcare or teaching jobs, but he thinks they are so "easy" to do, anybody off the street can do them.

The denigration of female-dominated employment, which many jobs are actually the best jobs despite the low or lower pay, needs to stop.


What in the hell were Ohioans thinking when they elected this dipshit to the Senate?

Aristus

(67,587 posts)
49. I'm grandfather to ten grandchildren.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 09:25 PM
Sep 5

I work during the day. Can’t take care of kids that way. And I’m too exhausted when I get off work to do the same.

I’ve got another twelve years or so until retirement. I’m not spending my retirement providing day care.

Hekate

(93,492 posts)
51. Bejaysus, Aristus, how can you be so selfish? BTW, so does my SIL. She's generous with her time...
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 09:30 PM
Sep 5

…but there are limits.

Hekate

(93,492 posts)
50. Following RW logic, what this country *needs* is a permanent impoverished underclass...
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 09:26 PM
Sep 5

Got that?

At one end of life, children feeling “pride” at “helping their parents” by working overnight (so as to not interfere with school hours, per Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders) to bring in a pittance to eke out the pittance their parents earn. At the other end of life, so little SS dispensed that old people who can’t earn enough to live alone will be forced to live with relatives (reminder: it’s our money that we paid in and that is owed to us) .

What a fantastic idea.

Aussie105

(5,969 posts)
55. Vance gets out of bed in the morning and thinks:
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 04:32 AM
Sep 6

Which group of voters can I annoy today?

Is that how you do politics? I'm amazed at the stupidity!

Oopsie Daisy

(3,994 posts)
57. Hello perfect stranger who needs a bath; and who has meth-mouth; and an ankle-monitor; *
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 08:59 AM
Sep 6

* and prison-gang tattoos; and needle track marks on the forearm... so you want to be a child-care worker? You're in luck! We're hiring! No training or background check needed... you don't even need a ridiculous certification that has nothing to do with taking care of kids. (MAGA hat wearers preferred.)

INQUIRE WITHIN!

Pugee

(347 posts)
58. Ha
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 01:28 PM
Sep 6

My daughter {who would never expect me to watch her 4 year old for 40 hours a week} sent me a funny test. It was a clip of his and she said "grandma, you are slacking! What a nimrod!"

RealityCheque

(487 posts)
59. We need more that "weird" to define this moron.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:35 PM
Sep 6

My wife and I both gladly are blessed to help with our grandchildren. I don’t know about anyone else, but we appreciate the opportunity to live in a non”project 2025” country where we have the freedom to be part of their lives. Not some archaic bs. Tuck Frump and Mr. Scary Eyeliner!

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