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BumRushDaShow

(137,634 posts)
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 07:35 PM Sep 5

Trump campaign pulls away from three target states after Harris surge

Source: The Guardian

Thu 5 Sep 2024 12.49 EDT


Donald Trump has quietly wound down his presidential campaign in states he was targeting just six weeks ago amid polling evidence showing that Kamala Harris’s entry into the presidential race has put them out of reach and narrowed his path to the White House.

The Republican presidential nominee’s campaign has diverted resources away from Minnesota, Virginia and New Hampshire – states Trump was boasting he could win while Joe Biden was the Democratic candidate – to focus instead on a small number of battleground states.

Money is being poured into the three “blue wall” states of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, which were all carried by Biden in 2020 and are seen as vital to the outcome of November’s election. Special attention is being paid to Pennsylvania, which has 19 electoral college votes, and where a new CNN poll shows Trump and Harris tied at 47% each.

Resources have also been transferred to southern and south-western Sun belt states – namely North Carolina, Georgia Nevada and Arizona – where Trump previously had healthy leads over Biden that have been whittled away since Harris replaced the US president at the top of the Democratic ticket.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/sep/05/trump-swing-state-harris

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Pototan

(1,745 posts)
1. I guess some people do believe polls
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 12:38 AM
Sep 6

as did President Biden following his poor debate performance.

I follow the polls. I factor in the fact that they are a snapshot in time, and some may be biased in some instances.

But they are not irrelevant.

PortTack

(33,961 posts)
3. I do see them as not quite irrelevant, but almost. #1 POC are seriously under represented in most polls
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 02:03 AM
Sep 6

That reason alone is enough to throw them off.
Other reasons I think the polls are wrong
#2 PA, WI, and MI have only voted for the gqp candidate once in the last 30+ yrs….history matters.
#3 democratic voter registration up 170% from what it was just 2 yrs ago
#4 money from all small donors way up. Small donors are not giving their hard earned cash to turn around and vote for tfg
#5 President Biden won by 7 million…that’s a lot of voters the gqp have to convince to vote for the tfg. Doesn’t make any sense. Yes, I understand the EC and how it works…which brings me back around to reason #2.

Pototan

(1,745 posts)
4. I agree with you
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 03:22 AM
Sep 6

that's why I say Dems will overperform in 2024, Our candidate has not been (unfairly) vilified for 30 years prior to the election, as Hillary was in 2016, and we don't anticipate anything like the Comey letter with 8 days to the election.

There is no Covid lockdown. We will be able to utilize the full force of our GOTV, door knocking and infrastructure advantage. And, with the heightened enthusiasm on our side, getting voters to the polls or mailing in their ballots will be easier. And this is the first Presidential General Election post Dobbs. As we have seen in every mid-term, referendum and special election since the overturning of Wade, Democrats vastly overperform Republicans.

The wind is at our backs, but we need to work as if it's not. There is much too much at stake.

BumRushDaShow

(137,634 posts)
6. THIS 👆👆👆
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 09:05 AM
Sep 6

for every reason you mention.

But I would also add that you only need look at the elections over the past 3 years since 2020, when election after election, Democrats were noted to have "over-performed".

The problem is these pollsters have no clue who the "likely voters" will be.

cstanleytech

(26,801 posts)
2. I hope that doesn't mean the Democratic leadership will ease up on their spending efforts there though.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 01:06 AM
Sep 6

If they did and then the Republicans came back in force it might make harder to retake any lost ground.

BumRushDaShow

(137,634 posts)
5. Why would one assume, after what happened in 2016, that "Democratic leadership will ease up"?
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 08:57 AM
Sep 6

People truly learned their lesson from 2016, which is why 45 lost in 2020 - and that was with getting the voting public out in the middle of a damn global pandemic, when hospitals were overflowing and bodies were piling up in morgues.

And after what happened in 2020 with a new set of headwinds to deal with, there were more "lessons learned". They know the stakes.

cstanleytech

(26,801 posts)
8. If people truly learned their lessons we wouldn't have had to endure Reagan, Bush Sr and his Shrub as well as Trump.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 01:14 PM
Sep 6

The fact Is people make mistakes and a mistake can cost an election like it did with McCain and his little bomb bomb song.

BumRushDaShow

(137,634 posts)
10. We are actually in a different universe with a very different animal when it comes to these GOPers
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 02:01 PM
Sep 6

In 2016, for the first time in history, someone was elected to the Presidency who had never served as either an elected government official, or as an appointed one, or as a civil servant of any kind, or in the military.

We saw the result.

What has kept him propped up is the media (and now a very expanded "media" that didn't exist under Raygun or Poppy, and was in its infancy under Shrub and Obama).

FakeNoose

(34,704 posts)
9. They're conceding an awful lot
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 01:28 PM
Sep 6

... it means their own polls (the ones they never reveal) are telling them the same thing.

Chump is toast. The campaign donations are drying up. Nobody wants his BS rallies where he leaves a huge mess behind and won't pay his bills. Look at how he criticized and complained about Brian Kemp - the R Governor of Georgia - but Chump expects the R's love him and kiss up to him anyway.

As we get closer to November, more Repukes are getting the courage to say they AREN'T voting for Chump, and they DON'T want him back in the White House. We need more of that, please!

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