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BumRushDaShow

(137,634 posts)
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 06:36 AM Sep 6

JD Vance says school shootings are a "fact of life"

Source: Salon

Published September 5, 2024 9:39PM (EDT)


Republican Vice Presidential nominee JD Vance said that school shootings were simply a “fact of life” after a shooting at a Georgia high school left four dead — the 45th school shooting in the United States so far this year.

The comments, made at an Arizona rally on Thursday, come after Vice President Kamala Harris and her running mate Tim Walz called for enhanced gun control measures in their own campaign rallies following the shooting.

“If these psychos are going to go after our kids we’ve got to be prepared for it,” Vance said, bucking a question asked on gun control measures and instead championing efforts to spend more on school security, per the Associated Press. “We don’t have to like the reality that we live in, but it is the reality we live in. We’ve got to deal with it.”

Vance, who noted that the event was an “awful tragedy,” faced criticism in June for calling gun violence in schools a “fake problem” and called an attempt to ban bump stocks, used in the Las Vegas shooting that killed 60, a “huge distraction.”

Read more: https://www.salon.com/2024/09/05/jd-vance-says-school-are-a-fact-of-life/

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JD Vance says school shootings are a "fact of life" (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 6 OP
So... 2naSalit Sep 6 #1
Easy for him to say Bernardo de La Paz Sep 6 #13
Not a fact of life,but BattleRow Sep 6 #58
Like I have said in other posts, J D Vance can go fuck himself. Ray Bruns Sep 6 #2
Just another republican sociopath bumbling before the willfully ignorant cultists. Magoo48 Sep 6 #17
Maybe this is to encourage fear, BattleRow Sep 6 #52
++ appalachiablue Sep 6 #79
And, as the couches in the chat know, he would fuck himself if he could ArkansasDemocrat1 Sep 6 #26
J D Vance can go fuck himself Moon_Dog Sep 6 #47
J-DiVan-ce Can Go Fall Onto His Fainting Couch nt smb Sep 7 #84
Bastard. Irish_Dem Sep 6 #3
Of course, since he's a Republican, he won't feel anything for the victims, and unless one of his children is torn apart Walleye Sep 6 #4
"They think any cluster of fertized ovum is a child." sarge43 Sep 6 #18
Cannon fodder BattleRow Sep 6 #57
Wage slaves sarge43 Sep 6 #62
SS branded cattle BattleRow Sep 6 #63
Nothing more traditional at the holler than a good old shoot 'em up Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 6 #5
That some people don't want to have kids is also a fact of life. Probatim Sep 6 #6
The Republican party benefits by destroying public education. Republican gun policies are therefore terrorist tactics. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 6 #7
That's rich PJMcK Sep 6 #8
They think somehow they're immune. Even after the Trump incident. I don't get it, I really don't get it. Vinca Sep 6 #9
Vance is saying,... magicarpet Sep 6 #80
As long as you hand out guns like candy on Halloween you can expect it. twodogsbarking Sep 6 #10
Banning bump stocks is a huge distraction? But your candidate truthisfreedom Sep 6 #11
Arm the kids, an armed society is a polite society IronLionZion Sep 6 #12
"The only thing to stop a Bad Guy with a gun, is a Good Guy with a gun" Seinan Sensei Sep 6 #44
Vance telling you who he is. Aussie105 Sep 6 #14
And what Charlton Heston said while NRA president IronLionZion Sep 6 #22
Society needs more "replacement kids"? Zambero Sep 6 #15
I'd like to ram this up JD Vance's ass... chouchou Sep 6 #16
Thank you seems weird so I will say Prairie_Seagull Sep 6 #43
They don't need to be, you effing moron! Clouds Passing Sep 6 #19
JD Vance calls school shootings 'a fact of life,' faces pushback LetMyPeopleVote Sep 6 #20
but of course, he is "pro-life" Skittles Sep 6 #78
Therefore, there's nothing we can do about school shootings per JD Vance. Kid Berwyn Sep 6 #21
All He Knows RobinA Sep 6 #42
In addition to separating AR-15s from nutjobs... Kid Berwyn Sep 6 #45
Looking at this photo I have to ask... Hope22 Sep 6 #23
Fuck you, JD Vance. Scully Sep 6 #24
The Harris Walz campaign just released this SCATHING statement on JD Vance calling school shootings a "fact of life." LetMyPeopleVote Sep 6 #25
If you want "scathing", one of those media groups... keep_left Sep 6 #60
Well... wryter2000 Sep 6 #27
Way to problem solve MuseRider Sep 6 #28
Not when Linda ladeewolf Sep 6 #29
NRA became a domestic, Russian backed fascist organization? Evolve Dammit Sep 6 #65
That and Linda ladeewolf Sep 6 #71
Not This "Video Games" Nonsense smb Sep 7 #85
Very true Linda ladeewolf Sep 7 #88
This is what happens when all they care about are themselves. BlueWavePsych Sep 6 #30
School shootings are a fact of death. twodogsbarking Sep 6 #31
It's the reality we live in, we've got to deal with it. patphil Sep 6 #32
Someone needs to sit CouchTool down and tell him about the birds, bees and bullets Wicked Blue Sep 6 #33
J.D. Vance's idiocy, lack of empathy, and total ignorance is a fact of life. Martin68 Sep 6 #34
If we listened closely at the time he said this birdographer Sep 6 #35
ours is the only country where this is a regular occurrence IronLionZion Sep 6 #36
Abortions are also a fact of life. Let's try thoughts and prayers for them keithbvadu2 Sep 6 #37
My kids are grown (like many here) Prairie_Seagull Sep 6 #38
So schoolkids should be Kamikaze's for Vance? usonian Sep 6 #39
You take the good, you take the bad, you take them all, and then you have the Facts of Life! Oopsie Daisy Sep 6 #40
So we should just accept that?! barbtries Sep 6 #41
Then he's a bad, bad Catholic. ancianita Sep 6 #46
This man is not a catholic Keepthesoulalive Sep 6 #50
He's both. Baptized Catholic in 2019 and bought and paid for idiot ever since. ancianita Sep 6 #53
Paging Opus Dei BattleRow Sep 6 #64
When he loses he'll have the rest of his life to repent. lol ancianita Sep 6 #66
If there is justice, BattleRow Sep 6 #68
Oh, there is. ancianita Sep 6 #69
There is absolutely no honor BattleRow Sep 6 #70
okay then...thanks for the non sequitur ancianita Sep 6 #72
Yw BattleRow Sep 6 #74
A fact of life Jean Genie Sep 6 #48
Yeah we see his 'kind: JimmyGnarlyFL Sep 6 #49
Thanks to the GOP and NRA, school shootings are indeed at fact of life for us. Begone J Dunce Vance! C0RI0LANUS Sep 6 #51
Trump response to school shooting: "We have to get over it" LetMyPeopleVote Sep 6 #54
Just disgusting. Old Crank Sep 6 #55
According to Vance the Earth is flat and Gravity is only a 'theory'. Ford_Prefect Sep 6 #56
"If these psychos are going to go after our kids we've got to be prepared for it..." agalisgv Sep 6 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Harker Sep 6 #61
Doesn't feel the same about abortions however Raven123 Sep 6 #67
He is just another PAY to SAY. This is for soundbites/cips for their base, sans the stupid AF stuff! Brainfodder Sep 6 #73
Authoritarians believe that it is markodochartaigh Sep 6 #75
What can I say, that has not already been said? OAITW r.2.0 Sep 6 #76
How could you vote for that? elias7 Sep 6 #77
"Purported Pro-life Guy Says Kids Getting Murdered at School is 'Fact of Life' " Beartracks Sep 6 #81
Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC this morning IcyPeas Sep 6 #82
Like midterms and detention Nasruddin Sep 7 #83
No no no, they should not be a fact of life, what an idiot 😡 TommieMommy Sep 7 #86
An idiot possibly, but more like a bearer of bad news. republianmushroom Sep 7 #87
Shady likely thinks children are completely replaceable - TBF Sep 7 #89

2naSalit

(90,749 posts)
1. So...
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 06:44 AM
Sep 6

The campaign message here is that the repugs think that shootings are a fact of life and we should just get over it and move on whenever they happen.

BattleRow

(622 posts)
58. Not a fact of life,but
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 04:28 PM
Sep 6

a grim reality that has evolved since the GOP and NRA elevated guns to God status.

Their golden calf is made of molten gunmetal.

BattleRow

(622 posts)
52. Maybe this is to encourage fear,
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 02:25 PM
Sep 6

Last edited Fri Sep 6, 2024, 04:42 PM - Edit history (1)

to dismantle public schools and encourage homeschooling..moms stay at home,and childcare costs go down,no teachers union,no gun restrictions..

We can revert all the way back to covered wagons and little couch on the prairie.

Walleye

(33,892 posts)
4. Of course, since he's a Republican, he won't feel anything for the victims, and unless one of his children is torn apart
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 06:50 AM
Sep 6

With a powerful weapon, his beautiful children. Typical Republican thinks his kids are more important than other people’s. Can’t possibly imagine grief. These other parents are going through His only solution is more violence. This is their party now. Here’s a new slogan for you, children over party. Of course they can’t even tell you what children really are. They think any cluster of fertilized ovum is a child.

sarge43

(29,098 posts)
18. "They think any cluster of fertized ovum is a child."
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 10:34 AM
Sep 6

Until it's born, then it's just target practice.

Probatim

(2,884 posts)
6. That some people don't want to have kids is also a fact of life.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 06:57 AM
Sep 6

Lots of facts of life for JD - like 60% of Americans think you can go fuck yourself.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,144 posts)
7. The Republican party benefits by destroying public education. Republican gun policies are therefore terrorist tactics.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 07:23 AM
Sep 6

School shootings are not a fact of life in sane countries.

Vinca

(50,737 posts)
9. They think somehow they're immune. Even after the Trump incident. I don't get it, I really don't get it.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 08:06 AM
Sep 6

JD is pretty much saying, "It's an irritation, like poison ivy. Get over it."

magicarpet

(15,791 posts)
80. Vance is saying,...
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 08:24 PM
Sep 6

Whatever will be,...

Will be......

Nothing we could or should do about it,... it is God's Will.

?si=6vVsK3-Kxj_6PUw8

truthisfreedom

(23,288 posts)
11. Banning bump stocks is a huge distraction? But your candidate
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 08:20 AM
Sep 6

did it by executive order, you nitwit!

“ Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks
BY MICHAEL BALSAMO
Published 4:07 PM CDT, December 18, 2018”

https://apnews.com/article/6c1af80fb290472c89fb930e223505af

IronLionZion

(46,652 posts)
12. Arm the kids, an armed society is a polite society
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 08:31 AM
Sep 6

That never goes wrong ever. The real problem is that these gun free zones don't have enough guns. The answer is more guns.





Since Vance wants us to accept the unacceptable, let's win enough seats in a blue wave to change it.

Seinan Sensei

(588 posts)
44. "The only thing to stop a Bad Guy with a gun, is a Good Guy with a gun"
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 01:22 PM
Sep 6

Well, except when it isn't

Uvalde had three-hundred seventy-six law enforcement officers
held at-bay by one 18-yr-old with an AR-15-style rifle

So, nope
Left-swipe
We know what works. We know what doesn't.
First of all, get JD to shut the f--k up

Aussie105

(5,969 posts)
14. Vance telling you who he is.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 09:37 AM
Sep 6

And believe him, he is serious!

What is Charlton Heston's line at the end of the Planet of the Apes?

Oh yeah!

“You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!”

Some people just want to blow up America, one school shooting at a time.
And smile while they are watching it on the news.

Zambero

(9,420 posts)
15. Society needs more "replacement kids"?
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 09:51 AM
Sep 6

to account for ho-hum no-big-deal school massacres? Now I can begin to comprehend the type of reasoning where Vance bemoans "childless cat ladies" not doing their part to ensure that there is "no net loss" following a never-ending succession of school mass shootings. Simple population math to remedy an inconvenient "fact of life"!

chouchou

(1,115 posts)
16. I'd like to ram this up JD Vance's ass...
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 10:17 AM
Sep 6

Search
# Country Number of School Shootings
1 United States of America 288
2 Mexico 8
3 South Africa 6
4 India 5
5 Nigeria 4
6 Pakistan 4
7 Afghanistan 3
8 Brazil 2
9 Canada 2
10 France 2
11 Azerbaijan 1
12 Estonia 1
13 Germany 1
14 Greece 1
15 Hungary 1
16 Kenya 1
17 People's Republic of China 1
18 Russia 1
19 Turkey 1
20 Argentina 0
21 Australia 0
22 Italy 0
23 Japan 0
24 Netherlands 0
25 Spain 0
26 Switzerland 0
27 United Kingdom 0

LetMyPeopleVote

(151,829 posts)
20. JD Vance calls school shootings 'a fact of life,' faces pushback
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 10:39 AM
Sep 6

To hear JD Vance tell it, deadly school shootings, such as this week's tragedy in Georgia, are "a fact of life.” The comments generated swift pushback.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/jd-vance-calls-school-shootings-fact-life-faces-pushback-rcna169900

In general, in the immediate aftermath of a deadly school shooting, Republican officials have spent recent years sticking to a familiar playbook. They (1) offer “thoughts and prayers”; (2) say something along the lines of, “This isn’t the time to talk about politics”; and (3) roll out stale culture-war ideas such as regulating video games and pushing state-endorsed religion in public schools.....

But Republican politics in the Trump era has been a little different.

It was earlier this year, for example, when Donald Trump responded to a school shooting in Iowa by urging supporters to “move forward,” adding his belief that people “have to get over it.”

The former president’s comments came to mind after seeing new and related remarks from his 2024 running mate. The Associated Press reported:

Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance said Thursday that he lamented that school shootings are a “fact of life” and argued the U.S. needs to harden security to prevent more carnage like the shooting this week that left four dead in Georgia.


.....But Vance nevertheless concluded, “I don’t like that this is a fact of life.”




......In a statement issued soon after Vance’s public comments, the Harris/Walz campaign team issued a written statement that read, “Yesterday, Vice President Harris said ‘it doesn’t have to be this way’ in response to another senseless school shooting. Donald Trump and JD Vance think school shootings are a ‘fact of life’ and ‘we have to get over it.’

Vice President Harris and Governor Walz know we can take action to keep our children safe and keep guns out of the hands of criminals. Donald Trump and JD Vance will choose the NRA and gun lobby over our children. That is the choice in this election.”

RobinA

(10,057 posts)
42. All He Knows
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 01:11 PM
Sep 6

is reaction. If for no other reason, not the guy I want trying to get along with belligerent nations and their psycho leaders.

Kid Berwyn

(17,089 posts)
45. In addition to separating AR-15s from nutjobs...
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 01:25 PM
Sep 6

...I suggest an idea from Pablo Casals:



Like souls awakening, children raised to treat others with love and kindness will grow to discover and appreciate their own remarkable and unique natures. And while Casals never had biological children of his own, to express the above sentiment shows that he sure loved kids.

Hope22

(2,375 posts)
23. Looking at this photo I have to ask...
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 10:47 AM
Sep 6

What country do we live in? Couple more pieces of glass and he could officially be the turd in the punch bowl!

Scully

(71 posts)
24. Fuck you, JD Vance.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 10:51 AM
Sep 6

We don't have to deal with that being a fact of life. We have to change the reality.

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on and your bulletproof glass and your weird shiftiness and your insane, misogynistic views and everything about you and that perspective.

Oh, and off topic, but fuck Governor Kemp too for being a coward and not having a published email address so I can send him a piece of my mind too on this. My kid shouldn't have to be scared to go to school.

keep_left

(2,143 posts)
60. If you want "scathing", one of those media groups...
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 04:49 PM
Sep 6

...like Meidas or the Lincoln Project should really satirize Vance with one of those SNL-style "cold open" fake ads using the Facts of Life TV show theme. I can just hear it now...

You take the good,
You take the bad,
You shoot the kids,
and there you have
the Facts of Life,
the Facts of Life!

(and there are additional lyrics as well...)

Yeah, I know...poor taste...too soon...etc. But what is more disgusting than the complete lack of action after the Newtown shooting in 2012? That was when the point of no return was reached; the society truly hit rock bottom. It became clear that nothing would be done--even when 20 children and six school staff were murdered--all to placate the gun fetishists and their bought-off lackeys in Congress.

MuseRider

(34,309 posts)
28. Way to problem solve
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 10:58 AM
Sep 6

you jackass. I do not like anything about you but I will be nice enough to remind you that you are playing on the big field. Take good precautions because not all your nut job followers will like everything you say.

Try solving this problem for ALL of us who do not deserve to have to be fearful all the time or possibly lose those dear to us.

Keep your smart ass responses to yourself.

Linda ladeewolf

(229 posts)
29. Not when
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 11:00 AM
Sep 6

I grew up! Where I lived, the guys used to come to school with gun racks in the back windows of their trucks and guns in them. I don’t think they ever thought of killing anyone with them. So, what changed in America, that now this is so common? We had bullies back then too. What is the catalyst that changed everyone’s responses to each other?

smb

(3,544 posts)
85. Not This "Video Games" Nonsense
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 04:57 AM
Sep 7

Every industrialized country has video games. A lot of them (e.g. Japan) have much more intense video game cultures than the US.

Linda ladeewolf

(229 posts)
88. Very true
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 12:24 PM
Sep 7

Our children see violence on television, games, movies, continually. Then there is that other thing which drives me nuts, they see all the violence, but on the news, they always blur out the reality, the results of that violence. The blood, the deaths are kept hidden because it might offend our delicate sensitivities. I don’t think the reality ever really sinks in to anyone’s mind. Other nations are not having this problem, why are we the only ones? We are doing something wrong, whether we like it or not. What do we do that is different? It may not be the video games themselves, but something that goes along with it.

patphil

(6,736 posts)
32. It's the reality we live in, we've got to deal with it.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 11:23 AM
Sep 6

OK, so let's deal with it.
You can change reality if you want to; if you have the will to do what it takes; if you give a shit about all those dead and wounded people you can fix the problem.
Obviously, Just Dumb Vance is a big NO on all of this.

Anyone who thinks 60 dead people, killed by a person using a AR-15 with a bump stock, is just a "huge distraction" has a callous disregard for life. What the fuck is it we are being distracted from?

And he believes he's pro-life. F**k him.

Wicked Blue

(6,447 posts)
33. Someone needs to sit CouchTool down and tell him about the birds, bees and bullets
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 11:39 AM
Sep 6

and the impact that the bullets have on human bodies.

birdographer

(2,164 posts)
35. If we listened closely at the time he said this
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 11:58 AM
Sep 6

I do believe we would hear the velcro-like sound of many parents peeling away from voting republican in November.

IronLionZion

(46,652 posts)
36. ours is the only country where this is a regular occurrence
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 11:58 AM
Sep 6

Everywhere else it is a rare thing and not a fact of life at all.

Prairie_Seagull

(3,536 posts)
38. My kids are grown (like many here)
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 12:38 PM
Sep 6

They have begun (terrible word in this context) their lives as teachers.

At what point is our country inhospitable? MineralMan had a thread about being prepared with proper documentation for travel and voting should it be needed.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19422144

I would add inhospitable.

This shit ain't normal and we know it.

usonian

(12,276 posts)
39. So schoolkids should be Kamikaze's for Vance?
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 12:44 PM
Sep 6

GO TO SCHOOL IN THEIR BURIAL ROBES?

END THIS FUCKIN MADNESS
BAN ASSAULT WEAPONS

AND VANCE

(sorry about the caps, I am smoking mad)

barbtries

(29,406 posts)
41. So we should just accept that?!
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 01:06 PM
Sep 6

no, no, no, no!

They are not "just" a fact of life anywhere else in the world. As Joe Biden said, how can we say we're the greatest nation on earth when mass murder is routine?!

I hope he catches lots and lots of shit for this statement

ancianita

(37,657 posts)
53. He's both. Baptized Catholic in 2019 and bought and paid for idiot ever since.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 02:26 PM
Sep 6
And he's a bad, bad idiot, too.

BattleRow

(622 posts)
68. If there is justice,
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:48 PM
Sep 6

hopefully a lot of others will,too.

With an eternal and especially sharp , and uncomfortably tight ,cilice belt as an uncomfortable reminder.

ancianita

(37,657 posts)
69. Oh, there is.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 06:24 PM
Sep 6

It will be served up by The People on Nov 5.

Then will Thiel have anything to do with him? Probably not. He'll be on his own.

 

JimmyGnarlyFL

(4 posts)
49. Yeah we see his 'kind:
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 02:17 PM
Sep 6

Bet 2$ the ' holy man - baloney - owed money, maybe construction $ etc.. who knows. Shameful as they go.

!?

Old Crank

(4,277 posts)
55. Just disgusting.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 02:42 PM
Sep 6

School shootings weren't "a fact of life" when I went to school and we had the occasional pickup with a gun in a gun rack at our HS. These progun idiots worshiping murder machines.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Brainfodder

(7,117 posts)
73. He is just another PAY to SAY. This is for soundbites/cips for their base, sans the stupid AF stuff!
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 06:57 PM
Sep 6

Do you think the FIX news outlets show JD looking bad on the regular?

If the civil war starts, is it over when Hannity's head is on a pike next to TSF or what?

markodochartaigh

(1,683 posts)
75. Authoritarians believe that it is
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 07:51 PM
Sep 6

the prerogative of the powerful to change, or to dictate, reality and that everyone else must struggle the best we can under those conditions.

elias7

(4,148 posts)
77. How could you vote for that?
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 08:01 PM
Sep 6

School shootings were not a fact of life until recently, which makes them not a fact of life, but a fact of poor cultural, and ultimately ideological choices.

republianmushroom

(16,427 posts)
87. An idiot possibly, but more like a bearer of bad news.
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 11:42 AM
Sep 7

How Many Guns in America?
In 2017, there was estimated to be near 400 million guns in the United States between police, the military, and American civilians. Over 393 Million (Over 98%) of those guns are in civilian hands, the equivalent of 120 firearms per 100 citizens.

https://americangunfacts.com/gun-ownership-statistics/

It is estimated there are more that 20 million AR type rifles in the US.

TBF

(33,324 posts)
89. Shady likely thinks children are completely replaceable -
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 03:53 PM
Sep 7

women can just give birth to more. After all, he thinks that is all women are good for. I loathe that monster.

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