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with almost every state winnowing out voter rolls over time? Devil is in the details of course - and I'm not familiar with NC specifics - but none of what is given here as 'reason for removal' sounds particularly non-standard or egregious? People that have not voted in several past elections - moved and failed .. ?

Bad mouthing NC Board of Elections procedures when they know nothing about them and don't seem to care to learn.

Things are bad enough with the Republicans and all of their attacks and conspiracy theories.

I thought DUers were smarter. Oh, well. Live and learn.

I'd love to know how many people would take jobs where you're trying to help them out when suddenly you have to work in a place with layers of physical high security and behind bulletproof glass...

People don't seem to understand what goes into helping them vote. What's worse is they don't seem to want to learn but are quick to complain about it and blame the helpers.

I'm wondering if they really even vote to start with...?

that virtually every story - whether featuring nefarious elements or not - is viewed through that lens. And it seems to me that that is neither helpful - nor particularly informed.

Once again - I can't speak to the specifics here, because I'm just not up to speed on NC law. But nothing mentioned here so far sounds so very different from what I had understood to be fairly common practice. Are we claiming that these are new regulations and standards, recently put in place?
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It appears more and more posters are just working for a spot on the Greatest page.

Much more than anything else, Iike being helpful or truthfully, fully informative without bias or sensationalism.

It doesn't help that Abbott words it like it has happened recently, but it has been within the last two years. "Texas removes 1.2 million voters!". DU response: "What is the political party of the voters?" "I bet they're all brown people".
Most of them have moved or died. Some have been convicted of felonies.

6,500 were due to suspected US citizenship. The 6,500 are concerning and ACLU, LWV etc are taking legal action. So, this is concerning, but it's only about 1% of those removed.

Legal citizens have the right to vote guaranteed,I don't recall where it says you better show up to vote each year or else. I think that law is BS and shouldn't be allowed in any State. There can be a lot of circumstances where people can't vote. That's why voting by mail should be made as easy as possible.

It is the responsibility of the voters to reply to the request. It can be done by returning the mailer or in person.

Voting alone does not totally fulfill your responsibility to the board of elections as a voter.

The records are required by law to be updated.

It is the voter's responsibility.

It's not magic. It's not rocket science.

It's not evil or nefarious.

It's a right that comes with a responsibility. Like a lot of grown-up things.

Elections board workers are not clairvoyant.

It's the voters job to keep up their part of the bargain and when you register there's more to do to keep your registration active than just voting.

You have to keep your registration current.

I would assume that given NC has a Democratic governor, their election operation is on the up-and-up because the NC SOS is a Democrat.

However the GOP is attempting to force a further purge for bullshit reasons and I linked to that. If the courts agree with the RNC (even with the Appeals Court being a 9(D) - 6(R)), then guess what?

(I.e., we need to be "aware" of what the GOP intends to do this cycle)

Unfortunately, it seems that there are those who prefer complaining to listening and learning. I can't be responsible for someone else's lack of interest in knowledge.

No matter how many ways we try to break it down and elucidate there's always going to be someone finding fault. I give up. I have bigger fish to fry right now.

Thanks for your efforts. ❤️

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does not appear to outside the scope of normal practice. (from what I can tell)

Now if the MAGA crowd is attempting to sneak in some shady stuff (in addition) - then by all means give em' hell on those measures.

See this - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3314742

based on Federal election law, and the nearness of the election.

But, again - the original post ...
Had as it's focus the deletions from the rolls performed over past couple of years.

The issue here in PA with a law - "Act-77" - that was passed almost unanimously by the-then GOP controlled PA State Assembly (with 1 (R) and 1 (D) who voted against it), has been going on since 45 lost this state in November 2020, and the GOP hasn't stopped trying to trash and undermine a law that THEY passed.

It's obvious that the GOP do not intend on letting up nationally either - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143314888

DOJ caught them doing possible illegal purges in AL (a state that JUST got a new redraw of Congressional districts that could net another Democrat) - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143314145

My point is that we need to be aware of underlying things going on with machinations of voting processes that are being pummeled by the GOP as part of a strategy, and there is no reason to dismiss the fact that they are attempting to do it in NC just as they are doing it here in PA.

In other words, voicing the continued need to monitor the application (misapplication and/or ignoring) of state and/or federal voting-related laws is not all "CT", because it's actually a GOP strategy that they have broadcast very loudly.

The NC Board of Elections is currently in control of us Democrats. And WE certainly aren’t going to purge the list, just because. Anyone purged would be a legitimate removal.

although, again, I'm not up on the specifics of NC election law.

(Federal law - HAVA 2002 - requires this type of accommodation. And a brief search seems to assure that NC, along with almost every state, does support provisional balloting.)

https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/provisional-ballots

* set aside while they are given a few days to properly register and transfer/update their new address, or to properly prove that they still live at the previous address, even though it became an inactive registration.

It ends up being more work for the voter... but it's something that they would have needed to do anyway, or something that wouldn't have been necessary if they'd just remained active.

And this is better than having people violate election laws by returning to their old polling location to vote as though they still lived in that area. As voters we have a responsibility ourselves to keep our registration info accurate (and active).

How are we supposed to get people to panic if you come across all logical and fact-filled.

It’s also very very unlikely that all the names removed are Democrats. We’d have to see a breakdown by party to know if there was partisan bias in making these removals. One hopes that people who are eligible to vote and want to vote will check on their status before it’s too late

They are hoping court cases wont prevail or will run into sympathetic judges.

See post #21.

See post #30 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3314711

And specifically this -

There were 7,666,436 registered overs per https://vt.ncsbe.gov/RegStat/Results/?date=09%2F21%2F2024

This means nearly 10% of registered voters are being kicked off the rolls. I'd say that should ring quite a few alarm bells. Whiile this might seem light routine housecleaning, it should have been done a long time ago, not this close to an election, and should not have involved so many voters.

If you live in NC, PLEASE make sure you are still registered to vote. Your state certainly depends on it and your country might.

It says that in the very first sentence of the OP. Which suggests that maybe you didn't bother to read it?

You're removed from the active roles but even back in 2002 (and before that, different state, 1998) if you moved inside the district or just hadn't voted for two elections, a simple ID was enough to get you a ballot and casting your vote--an affidavit ballot (aka "provisional ballot" in federalese).

There was a CT for a while that provisional ballots were always tossed. That falls into the "black box voting" category of things.

Sure, you can also reregister, but the in-personal affidavit ballot strikes me as easier. (Assuming you moved in your precinct and know this to be true.)

So the NC links are the only ones that are relevant.

There are cases being litigated right now here in PA where counties WERE "tossing provisional ballots" and/or were NOT offering that option.

a shit-ton of people. I find it rather curious - why so many? Had someone NOT been doing their job?

Are NOT dead or a felon then you are probably a current voter. People act like this is some kind of magic.

With rights come responsibility.

Keep up your part of the bargain and you won't have this happen to you.

And by the way, it's not that big of a deal to correct. People need to quit whining.

I know the confusion is the objective, but wouldn't it make sense to have some kind of rule that you can only prune voter rolls in an off-year? Like have a cutoff three months before an election?

That pretty much backs up the start date to right after the previous election.

need to register or re-register to vote if you want to vote in an upcoming election.

From my understanding they have 25 days before an election to register to vote, so if any of those who were removed from the voting roles because they changed their address etc., they can still register to vote if they want to vote.

The one that concerns me is Georgia, because of this new election committee who are setting up all kinds of new rules for refusing to certify and election.

Spring elections, primaries, November elections, I'm there. When I move, re-registering is the first thing I do along with changing my drivers license. Its not going to happen to me.