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BumRushDaShow

(143,999 posts)
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 04:16 AM Oct 6

Ohio court refers case brought by citizens' group against Trump, Vance to prosecutors

Source: AP

Updated 5:24 PM EDT, October 5, 2024


SPRINGFIELD, Ohio (AP) — An Ohio court has referred to county prosecutors a criminal case brought by a citizens’ group against the Republican presidential and vice presidential candidates over their comments about Haitian immigrants but rejected the group’s call to issue arrest warrants or misdemeanor summons.

Springfield officials said in a statement Saturday that the Clark County municipal court found no probable cause to issue warrants or summons on misdemeanor charges against former president Donald Trump and his running mate, Ohio Sen. JD Vance. “The matter was then referred to the Clark County prosecutor’s office for further investigation,” city officials said.

The Springfield News-Sun reports that the judicial panel said particular consideration should be given to “the strong constitutional protections afforded to speech, and political speech in particular” with the election so close and the “contentious” nature of the issue of immigration.

The Haitian Bridge Alliance, a nonprofit group representing the Haitian community, last month invoked a private-citizen right to file charges over the chaos and threats experienced since Trump first spread false claims about legal immigrants there during a presidential debate.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/haitian-immigration-trump-vance-da370515db927ea9e6cbd9a92469da7a

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Ohio court refers case brought by citizens' group against Trump, Vance to prosecutors (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 6 OP
I don't see how the constitution protects malicious lies intended to cause harm, political or not Walleye Oct 6 #1
When Are Lies Constitutionally Protected? reACTIONary Oct 6 #2
Thanks for clearing that up. They really should be held liable for what they have said about Hunter Biden, etc.. Walleye Oct 6 #3
You should read the entire article... reACTIONary Oct 6 #5
Hate speech is not political speech Marthe48 Oct 6 #4
Hate speech is and has been most often been ... reACTIONary Oct 6 #6
This will be fun to watch LetMyPeopleVote Oct 6 #7

Walleye

(36,354 posts)
1. I don't see how the constitution protects malicious lies intended to cause harm, political or not
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 04:26 AM
Oct 6

reACTIONary

(6,125 posts)
2. When Are Lies Constitutionally Protected?
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 08:07 AM
Oct 6
https://knightcolumbia.org/content/when-are-lies-constitutionally-protected

The Supreme Court has held that defamation, perjury, fraudulent attempts to get money, speech actionable under the false light tort, and lies that inflict severe emotional distress are all constitutionally unprotected.

Walleye

(36,354 posts)
3. Thanks for clearing that up. They really should be held liable for what they have said about Hunter Biden, etc..
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 08:51 AM
Oct 6

So in other words just putting something political in there doesn’t make it protected speech?

reACTIONary

(6,125 posts)
5. You should read the entire article...
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 10:55 AM
Oct 6

... It is well thought out and comprehensive. The knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University is a top notch civil rights research and advocacy orgazition.

Marthe48

(19,297 posts)
4. Hate speech is not political speech
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 09:09 AM
Oct 6

or wasn't

With traitor and mini-traitor, lies and damned lies are accepted and passed along, no matter what harm they do.

reACTIONary

(6,125 posts)
6. Hate speech is and has been most often been ...
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 11:05 AM
Oct 6

... political speech. There really is no motivation to publicly proclaim hate other than politics.

"Carthage Must Be Destroyed"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthago_delenda_est

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