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C0RI0LANUS

(1,809 posts)
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 06:40 AM Oct 6

Trump Says He'd Change Name of Fort Liberty Back to Fort Bragg if Elected

Source: Stars and Stripes

Former President Donald Trump said he would change the name of Fort Liberty back to Fort Bragg if he’s elected. Trump made the remarks on Friday night during a town hall in Fayetteville, NC, which is near the military installation.

“I walked in — the first question that I asked — should we change the name from Fort Liberty back to Fort Bragg? First question,” he said as the crowd cheered. “Right, so here’s what we do — we get elected, I’m doing it. I’m doing it.”

The renaming of Fort Bragg was part of a controversial three-year process to strip the names of Confederate leaders who took up arms against the US in the Civil War from Army installations. It was part of an effort initiated by top Pentagon officials in 2020.

Congress mandated the Naming Commission in a 2021 annual Pentagon policy bill, giving it the task of identifying items in the Defense Department inventory associated with the Confederacy. Among the items that the commission studied were the names of nine Army installations honoring Confederate generals, including Fort Bragg.

Then-President Trump vetoed the bill, disapproving of the effort to remove Confederate names from the military. Congress overrode the veto, making the changes law. Fort Bragg was renamed Fort Liberty in 2023. Changing the name of Fort Liberty would require congressional approval.

Fort Liberty, NC is the home of the 82nd Airborne Division.


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Instead of providing his supporters with a plan or policy on how to deal with global climate change and the hurricanes and flooding that have damaged the Carolinas, the ex-President is concerned about re-naming a US Army base to honor a traitorous Confederate Army General.

You wonder if this brontosaurus knows the Civil War ended in 1865, the racist, slave-owning Confederacy lost, and that Americans have more pressing needs, like universal health care or flood re-insurance?


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Trump Says He'd Change Name of Fort Liberty Back to Fort Bragg if Elected (Original Post) C0RI0LANUS Oct 6 OP
Of course he would. Birds of a feather, or rather traitors of a feather flock togehter. brush Oct 6 #1
Fort Alvin Bragg DemMedic Oct 6 #2
Braxton Bragg was one COL Mustard Oct 6 #3
Yeah, I don't really see the attraction there Shermann Oct 6 #6
Even Confederates did not like him, especially the officers. Sneederbunk Oct 6 #36
Sad that this Don old thinks he can do that on his own. pwb Oct 6 #4
I gotta tell you what....... DENVERPOPS Oct 6 #11
Fort Alvin Bragg. Priceless. Thanks for that. You wonder if Yadkin's Pawn Shop and Ranger Joe's are still in business. C0RI0LANUS Oct 6 #5
I can see why Donald John might want Vogon_Glory Oct 6 #7
More bigmonk Oct 6 #8
He's hoping his racist base will be enough to save him. BradBo Oct 6 #9
I hadn't read Steinbeck's DENVERPOPS Oct 6 #12
Yep ck4829 Oct 14 #49
Pro-"Bragg"ing, Anti-"Liberty" Freethinker65 Oct 6 #10
My exact thought also. RandomNumbers Oct 6 #32
and people say Republicans have no platform..this is their platform... agingdem Oct 6 #13
Bragg - kind of appropriate, considering ... Jean Genie Oct 6 #14
This Makes Me Sick DallasNE Oct 6 #15
He needs to be ignored, he does it because it puts him on the news, people become outraged. Escurumbele Oct 6 #16
This JustAnotherGen Oct 6 #18
After January 20' 2025 JustAnotherGen Oct 6 #17
+infinity RandomNumbers Oct 6 #33
Amen! I am so sick to fucking death of hearing his bile and garbage 24/7. Initech Oct 6 #44
And guess who was Commander in Chief in 2020? SouthBayDem Oct 6 #19
He vetoed the name change, and Congress overrode his veto Prairie Gates Oct 6 #25
He's waiting to name the first moon base after himself. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 6 #37
what does this have to do with the price of eggs. AllaN01Bear Oct 6 #20
I believe Bragg's descendants were good with the name change. R Merm Oct 6 #21
Lol. This is what's important to MAGAt's. Relatively if not totally bullshit relative to the myriad of public policies KPN Oct 6 #22
Well that'll help pay the bills! And what about that health care concept? louslobbs Oct 6 #23
A slap in the face orangecrush Oct 6 #24
He'll name it Fort Braggadocio after his own fat self Blue Owl Oct 6 #26
Big talk, Motherfucker Aviation Pro Oct 6 #27
I'm glad they DIDN'T give the Rangers back the black berets jmowreader Oct 6 #31
There was a typo in your post, Coriolanus. He wants it to be called Fort Brag because it reminds him of himself. 😁 Wonder Why Oct 6 #28
I guess we know Figarosmom Oct 6 #29
'Secret to winning!' MAGA fans cheer as Trump pledges to put Confederate names on bases LetMyPeopleVote Oct 6 #30
Why doesn't he just go all the way and name it after himself: "Fort Braggart"? n/t valleyrogue Oct 6 #34
Has he cleaed that with Liberty "University" ? GreenWave Oct 6 #35
Does he intend to bury family members there too? twodogsbarking Oct 6 #38
Priorities Glaisne Oct 6 #39
Pandering to the traitorous southern lost cause. Pitiful. And of course, divisive. Evolve Dammit Oct 6 #40
"Fort Trump" and "Lunar Base Trump." Hah! Too rich. Caligula wanted his soldiers to capture the moon for him. C0RI0LANUS Oct 6 #41
Bragg was such a big asshole that not even the Confederates liked him Martin Eden Oct 6 #42
They love the Confederacy. They love Hitler. They love Putin. mwb970 Oct 6 #43
They don't like the Mexicans... Jack Valentino Oct 7 #48
Traitors of a feather. oasis Oct 6 #45
Why not just change it to Fort KKK, or Fort Proud Boys? mdbl Oct 6 #46
Why not "Fort Trump"? Little to choose between them... Jack Valentino Oct 7 #47
No thanks ck4829 Oct 14 #50

brush

(58,012 posts)
1. Of course he would. Birds of a feather, or rather traitors of a feather flock togehter.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 06:50 AM
Oct 6

Bragg was treasonous confederate general who rebeled and fought in the Civil War against his own country.

trump of course staged an insurrection against his own country.

No federal installations should've ever been named for traitors. I took us more than a century to correct that.

COL Mustard

(6,969 posts)
3. Braxton Bragg was one
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 07:04 AM
Oct 6

Of the Confederacy's worst generals, in addition to being a traitor. Go ahead, TFG, pick a battle worth fighting.

Shermann

(8,720 posts)
6. Yeah, I don't really see the attraction there
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 07:42 AM
Oct 6

At least he didn't join the KKK (as far as we know).

This was from a time when there was a shameful rise in nostalgia for the Confederacy's lost cause. Trump is mistaken to think that nostalgia has popular support today (or maybe he doesn't care).

DENVERPOPS

(10,129 posts)
11. I gotta tell you what.......
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 08:58 AM
Oct 6

If he, by hook or crook, gets "installed" in the White House, he probably WILL be given the power to do what ever he wishes on his own.
That is what Tyrant Dictators do...........

WASF

C0RI0LANUS

(1,809 posts)
5. Fort Alvin Bragg. Priceless. Thanks for that. You wonder if Yadkin's Pawn Shop and Ranger Joe's are still in business.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 07:27 AM
Oct 6

Vogon_Glory

(9,592 posts)
7. I can see why Donald John might want
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 07:44 AM
Oct 6

to change the name back, at least if his forebears were in the South before 1860 and some of them in the Confederate Army. It doesn’t mean I agree with them or that I agree that the mythos of The Lost Cause belongs anywhere else other than in a rubbish bin.

But this guy…Most of his ancestors arrived after 1865, most of them weren’t Southerners, and he never showed much interest in southern history.

Donnie was a civilian since graduating from military school. He never served in the US Armed forces and scorns the people who did.


To my knowledge, he never put any effort into preserving Southern landmarks. Hell, I don’t think he ever put on a reenactor’s Confederate uniform. (OK, I’m a 65+ white male sexist. I don’t like Melania, but I think she’d look good in a replica Southern belle’s dress)


Just say “NO!” to the fake reenactor of Palm Beach.

BradBo

(665 posts)
9. He's hoping his racist base will be enough to save him.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 08:40 AM
Oct 6

Can you imagine the hellscape he will create if elected. Not for me,an average,retired white baby boomer but women, minoritys, union workers, you name it.

DENVERPOPS

(10,129 posts)
12. I hadn't read Steinbeck's
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 09:22 AM
Oct 6

THE GRAPES OF WRATH, since eighth grade. It amazed me that my "take" on it in the 8th grade was totally different than reading it at age 76, and with all the knowledge and information I have gained in those many decades.

Your Hellscape, should include all white people below the 1%ers.........Steinbeck's book talks about the day to day existence of the masses of U.S. citizens, that had been driven into poverty by the Uber Rich and Monopolistic Corporations, and living literally hand to mouth, trying to survive each day, during the Great Depression......If you think today's homeless camps are something to see, the camps during the depression, (called Hoovervilles) were made up of un-fathomable numbers of average citizens.......and truly "Hellscapes"......

The "Power's To Be" actually banned the book when it came out, for a short period of time.......small wonder.........

If it hadn't been for FDR, it would have stayed that way, and we would be just another Banana Republic, Third World country.
Ruled by the same class, that wants to obliterate every last thing FDR did, and take us back to their "Gilded Age" run by their "Robber Barrons"......Carnegie, Rockefeller, Mellon, etc etc

And sadly, by them slowly chipping away at it, these past 45+ years, they are a millimeter away of pulling it off, and plan on ABSOLUTELY NOTHING standing in their way, this time around, during this election........

KATIE BAR THE DOOR

agingdem

(8,541 posts)
13. and people say Republicans have no platform..this is their platform...
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 10:20 AM
Oct 6

and so is Project 2025 and mass deportation and subjugating women and burning books and legitimizing hate for "the other" and white Christian dominance....

who says Republicans have no platform??









DallasNE

(7,585 posts)
15. This Makes Me Sick
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 10:42 AM
Oct 6

This comes on the heels of Trump charging black Haitian legal immigrants of killing and eating pet dogs and cats in Springfield, OH. It turns out that the woman that started the rumor because her cat went missing only to be found a couple of days later in her own basement. But Trump doubled down by saying the Haitians were now killing the geese in Springfield, OH. This time a white man was arrested for illegally hunting geese on a golf course. The key word in this paragraph is "black".

Trump keeps returning to racist issues to gin up his base and that is what is behind his more recent call to rename Fort Liberty back after the racist Confederated General Bragg. My Great Grandfather joined the Iowa National Guard on his 16th birthday - the first day he was eligible to enlist. This was after two of his older brothers had been killed by Confederate soldiers earlier in the war. He was later injured himself in the battle for Atlanta. I was stationed at then Fort Bragg in 1963. I had no idea that the fort was named after a treacherous Confederate General and I now find it insulting to be asked to serve at a place named after an enemy of America. Being stationed at Fort Liberty, on the hand, would be an honor. See the difference? There is now way we can go back.

Escurumbele

(3,643 posts)
16. He needs to be ignored, he does it because it puts him on the news, people become outraged.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 10:52 AM
Oct 6

Why do we keep paying attention to that buffoon? He needs to be ignored, that will drive him nuts, more nuts I mean.

JustAnotherGen

(33,777 posts)
18. This
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 11:00 AM
Oct 6

45 says nothing but stupid, cruel, evil, and Un-American traitorous things.

When 45 behaves and speaks like a decent human being - THAT is what matters.

JustAnotherGen

(33,777 posts)
17. After January 20' 2025
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 10:57 AM
Oct 6

I never want to see 45 Litter news story, after post, after thread again.

I'm sick and tired of seeing this things name.

Initech

(102,475 posts)
44. Amen! I am so sick to fucking death of hearing his bile and garbage 24/7.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 06:25 PM
Oct 6

Like the day I don't have to hear it anymore, the better.

SouthBayDem

(32,474 posts)
19. And guess who was Commander in Chief in 2020?
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 11:00 AM
Oct 6

Why more people don’t see through this blatantly dishonest pandering, I can’t figure out.

KPN

(16,160 posts)
22. Lol. This is what's important to MAGAt's. Relatively if not totally bullshit relative to the myriad of public policies
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 11:16 AM
Oct 6

and services that directly impact their lives in a tangible, meaningful and positive way. It's more important that they put the damned lib'ruls and commies in their place. All so they can feel better about their standing relative to POC, women, and LGBTQ. They would go back to the stone age if they could. They are e weak, insecure and fearful cohort ... so easily fooled and manipulated. They are all damaged people. Every frigging one of them -- including a few of my 8 siblings sadly.

louslobbs

(3,416 posts)
23. Well that'll help pay the bills! And what about that health care concept?
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 11:48 AM
Oct 6

And just think, tens of millions are still gonna vote for this deranged dude who sports a Cotton candy comb over, colors his face with orange stage makeup, and has a messiah complex.

Aviation Pro

(13,561 posts)
27. Big talk, Motherfucker
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 12:28 PM
Oct 6

Did you give Ranger Regiment its black berets back during your time as the fucking resident?

No.

So, fuck yourself, you five-fucking deferment poser, felon and rapist.

jmowreader

(51,581 posts)
31. I'm glad they DIDN'T give the Rangers back the black berets
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 01:22 PM
Oct 6

Darby Tan looks a hell of a lot sharper than black. Even if they pull the berets from the legs and REMFs the Rangers should keep the tan ones.

Wonder Why

(4,706 posts)
28. There was a typo in your post, Coriolanus. He wants it to be called Fort Brag because it reminds him of himself. 😁
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 12:56 PM
Oct 6

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,396 posts)
30. 'Secret to winning!' MAGA fans cheer as Trump pledges to put Confederate names on bases
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 01:19 PM
Oct 6

TFG's base are a bunch of racists who want to bring back the Confederacy



https://www.rawstory.com/trump-confederate-bases/

Former President Donald Trump kicked off a North Carolina campaign rally with a pledge to slap the names of Confederate generals on military bases — and was met with overwhelming cheers.

Trump's promise to re-instate the name of Fort Bragg — stripped from the base after the violent death of George Floyd, a Black man, under a police officer's knee — was met with cries of celebration, video of the event shows.

"Should we change the name from Fort Liberty back to Fort Bragg?" Trump asked the crowd. "I'm doing it. And we're leading in all the polls, we should get elected. Remember this, they cheat like hell. Too big to rig. We need too big to rig."

Gram Slattery, a reporter for Reuters, explained the fort was named after Braxton Bragg, who was "widely considered among the Confederacy's worst generals and a very stern slaveowner."....

"He’s really going after the racist, un-enlightened, clinging to the lost cause of the confederacy vote," wrote McGrath. "That’s actually a minority of the military/veteran community in 2024. There are old guys who care about base names. Post 911 vets either don’t care or welcome the change."


Glaisne

(546 posts)
39. Priorities
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 03:11 PM
Oct 6
You wonder if this brontosaurus knows the Civil War ended in 1865, the racist, slave-owning Confederacy lost, and that Americans have more pressing needs, like universal health care or flood re-insurance?

Not MAGA conservatives.

C0RI0LANUS

(1,809 posts)
41. "Fort Trump" and "Lunar Base Trump." Hah! Too rich. Caligula wanted his soldiers to capture the moon for him.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 04:24 PM
Oct 6

Martin Eden

(13,555 posts)
42. Bragg was such a big asshole that not even the Confederates liked him
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 05:59 PM
Oct 6

At least those who knew him.

mwb970

(11,715 posts)
43. They love the Confederacy. They love Hitler. They love Putin.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 06:10 PM
Oct 6

Is there ANY enemy of America, past or present, that MAGA does not love?

Jack Valentino

(1,497 posts)
47. Why not "Fort Trump"? Little to choose between them...
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 12:59 AM
Oct 7

other than the fact that Trump would never be caught dead in uniform for anybody

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