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C0RI0LANUS

(1,343 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 08:04 AM Oct 7

FDA Recalls Eggs That 'Will Cause Serious Adverse Health Consequences or Death'

Source: FDA and CDC

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recalled eggs that it said "will cause serious adverse health consequences or death." These products have been linked to a salmonella outbreak in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Illinois.

The FDA advised people not to eat, sell or serve recalled chicken eggs from Milo's Poultry Farms and Tony's Fresh Market. The FDA issued the first recall on 6 Sep but has upgraded the recall to Class I, a product that "will cause serious adverse health consequences or death.”

Across nine states, 65 people have gotten sick from the same strain of Salmonella, 24 people were hospitalized and no deaths have been reported.

CDC Link: https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/s0906-salmonella-outbreak.html

Read more: https://www.fda.gov/food/outbreaks-foodborne-illness/outbreak-investigation-salmonella-eggs-sept-2024?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery







The FDA informs that symptoms could occur 12 to 72 hours after eating food that is contaminated with Salmonella, and the symptoms usually last four to seven days. Symptoms could include diarrhea, fever, and abdominal cramps.
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FDA Recalls Eggs That 'Will Cause Serious Adverse Health Consequences or Death' (Original Post) C0RI0LANUS Oct 7 OP
Cue up the Wurlitzer durablend Oct 7 #1
I've been food poisoned several times. moniss Oct 7 #2
Concur. "When in doubt, throw it out" works for me. Food poisoning laid me out a few years ago just like you wrote. C0RI0LANUS Oct 7 #7
I was curious how does salmenella get into eggs. Jacson6 Oct 7 #8
I think birds and reptiles are carriers. LeftInTX Oct 7 #11
We got food poisoning from grape drink that they had at the bus station. LeftInTX Oct 7 #10
My paternal great grandmother used to refuse moniss Oct 7 #14
Do you take acid reducing meds? Mosby Oct 7 #20
Thanks for the tip but no I'm fortunate in not needing them. nt moniss Oct 7 #22
If the FDA & CDC are not yet on the Project 2025 list,... magicarpet Oct 7 #3
Terrible, isn't it? Cirsium Oct 7 #19
Shouldn't intact eggs be sterile inside? mainer Oct 7 #4
No the virus is inside of the eggs from the hen's ovaries. n/t Jacson6 Oct 7 #9
salmonella is a bacteria (bacterium is actually correct singular form) Kali Oct 7 #17
I know enough about the Amish to not buy food from them. twodogsbarking Oct 7 #5
Same here. Vance was in PA the other day assuring the Amish of no government regulations. yardwork Oct 7 #6
Great recipes though and moniss Oct 7 #15
Acid reducing meds make food poisoning more likely with worse symptoms. Mosby Oct 7 #12
Thank you for the acid-reducing medicine info. C0RI0LANUS Oct 7 #13
More information Cirsium Oct 7 #16
I never cook eggs unless the yolks are hard-cooked FakeNoose Oct 7 #18
I love runny and raw eggs so I have my own chickens womanofthehills Oct 7 #23
Wow Passages Oct 7 #21

durablend

(7,982 posts)
1. Cue up the Wurlitzer
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 08:09 AM
Oct 7

"That there FDA is making muh eggs even more spensive! We need TRUMP to get rid of it!"

moniss

(5,752 posts)
2. I've been food poisoned several times.
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 08:26 AM
Oct 7

It's not just a stomach ache like some people might think. The cramps can be so severe it's like your guts being ripped out. I've been laid up for days between severe cramps, high fever, vomiting so hard and dry heaves so bad that your head pounds like someone hit you with a hammer. Hours and hours. Then if you're lucky you might get a cessation of symptoms for just long enough for you to fall asleep in your weakened state. If the fever dreams aren't too bad you might stay asleep for just a bit until your body comes wracking you once again. On and off. The last time was from bad chicken. It lasted for days. I had a bad piece of hamburger once that sat in my guts like a little steel ball. I caught the taste of the spoiled part right as I was swallowing. I should have forced vomiting but I didn't think it would be too bad. I was wrong. It sort of felt like a wedged steel ball in my guts for days. Sick again. My innards didn't feel back to normal for over a week.

Moral of the story: "If in doubt, throw it out."

C0RI0LANUS

(1,343 posts)
7. Concur. "When in doubt, throw it out" works for me. Food poisoning laid me out a few years ago just like you wrote.
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 10:32 AM
Oct 7

Jacson6

(725 posts)
8. I was curious how does salmenella get into eggs.
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 11:12 AM
Oct 7

It turns out it can infect the Hens ovaries and then be transferred to the inside of the egg.

LeftInTX

(29,999 posts)
10. We got food poisoning from grape drink that they had at the bus station.
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 11:16 AM
Oct 7

Three of us had grape drink. It tasted kinda weird.

I was 10, my sister was 8 and my mom also had the grape drink. It was New Year's Eve 1966-67 and Snoopy and the Red Baron was playing on the jukebox at the station. My dad was in Viet Nam, so he didn't get it, but my mom had to deal with violent vomiting from herself and two of her kids on NYE. It was just awful. My younger siblings didn't have grape drink and they didn't get sick. The grape drink was in those dispensers. Fountain dispensers are notorious and I still avoid if possible.

Ah...memories.....

moniss

(5,752 posts)
14. My paternal great grandmother used to refuse
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 12:34 PM
Oct 7

to drink anything that wasn't from a glass container. The little general store used to order things in glass bottles and jars just for her. It took a very long time to get her to eat anything from a can like vegetables or fruit. She pretty much gave up milk when the bottles were phased out and just went to bottled juice, tap water, tea and coffee as her beverages. She adamantly refused to buy anything frozen and always used fresh ingredients even if it limited her cooking.

When I was a little kid I inadvertently started an "inter-family" incident. My great grandmother lived up the street and I would see her most every day during the summer. She was getting some "store bought" fruit from a glass jar for a snack for me when I told "Grandma" that my Mom said she was crazy about the food being in glass jars. Grandma wrote a note and put it in an envelope and sent it home with me. None of us went to Grandma's house for awhile. I got lectured by my Mom about how I wasn't supposed to ever repeat anything I heard her or my Dad say unless they told me to. Could have been the Hatfields and McCoys all over some fruit cocktail.

Mosby

(17,472 posts)
20. Do you take acid reducing meds?
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 01:46 PM
Oct 7

For acid reflux or GERD? Those meds drastically increase the chance of getting a food borne illness because the acid in your stomach is there to kill bacteria and viruses.

magicarpet

(16,518 posts)
3. If the FDA & CDC are not yet on the Project 2025 list,...
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 08:38 AM
Oct 7

.... for dismantling and dissolution then they should be immediately added. Food born deaths are good for the AmeriKKKan economy. Doctors, hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, and funeral homes economically thrive off sickness and death. Only commies would stop or impede food born illness.

mainer

(12,181 posts)
4. Shouldn't intact eggs be sterile inside?
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 09:10 AM
Oct 7

And if they're fully cooked, wouldn't that ensure safety?
I've always assumed that all chickens, ducks, and geese carry salmonella, so food safety is necessary. But I wasn't aware that fully cooked eggs which had intact shells would be dangerous.

Kali

(55,740 posts)
17. salmonella is a bacteria (bacterium is actually correct singular form)
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 01:02 PM
Oct 7

and eggs can be contaminated both during egg formation and later via penetration through the shell.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4377917/

yardwork

(64,375 posts)
6. Same here. Vance was in PA the other day assuring the Amish of no government regulations.
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 09:43 AM
Oct 7

He promised they could keep their unpasteurized milk, etc..

Perfect. Let's all go back to the 1600s.

moniss

(5,752 posts)
15. Great recipes though and
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 12:51 PM
Oct 7

I'll always take a good Amish double crust fruit pie. People need to be wary though of packaged and prepared food that is labeled Amish. It might just be Amish recipe etc. or may have no connection to the Amish at all in reality. The word is not trademarked and is not restricted by USDA or FDA regulations according to this Amish link. So in other words if you see meat or eggs etc. that say "Amish Farms Inc." or something with Amish in the packaging text it doesn't mean the Amish had anything to do with it. It's just marketing hype because the corporate guys know that the word is strongly associated in the minds of consumers with wholesome food and quality.

https://amishamerica.com/products/#:~:text=Not%20all%20Amish-labeled%20products%20are%20necessarily%20Amish-made.%20A,is%20not%20trademarked%2C%20may%20use%20the%20name%20freely.

Cirsium

(807 posts)
16. More information
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 12:57 PM
Oct 7
Salmonella enteritidis is present in the intestines and feces of birds and animals. Good hygiene, sanitation and thorough cooking eliminate the risk for the most part. There is an exception as described in the snippet below:

However, outbreaks of salmonellosis (an infection caused by Salmonella bacteria) still happen because Salmonella also silently infects the ovaries of healthy-looking hens, contaminating the eggs inside the chicken before the shells are even formed, according to FSIS. To curb this form of contamination, the egg industry regularly tests hens for the ovarian bacteria.

Only a small number of hens in the United States seem to be infected with Salmonella at any given time, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC also assures that an infected hen can lay many normal eggs while only occasionally laying an egg that's contaminated.

So how can consumers tell if an egg contains salmonella? There is no way for grocery shoppers to tell if an egg has been contaminated, according to Rob Gravani, a professor of food science at the Cornell University. In fact, Salmonella affect chicken of every quality, and there is no valid scientific evidence that shows that poultry products labeled "Kosher," "free-range," "organic," or "natural" have more or less of the bacteria, according to FSIS.

https://www.livescience.com/10016-salmonella-eggs.html


Still, thorough cooking will kill the bacteria.

FakeNoose

(35,689 posts)
18. I never cook eggs unless the yolks are hard-cooked
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 01:29 PM
Oct 7

For example, hard-boiled eggs (10 minutes) are safe to eat, also fried eggs that are turned over and the yolk is hard. Never eat a soft-boiled egg or scrambled eggs that we used to call "runny". Those are undercooked and you'd be risking salmonella.

I think it's safe to use eggs in baking - for example baking a cake with eggs should be safe. Usually the oven is at least 350 degrees, and the cake will normally bake for 25 or 30 minutes, depending. Salmonella bacteria will be destroyed at that temperature.

womanofthehills

(9,270 posts)
23. I love runny and raw eggs so I have my own chickens
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 04:52 PM
Oct 7

I only have 4 chickens and a roo but I get lots of eggs. I feed my chickens only organic grains and fruits.

I would not down a raw egg from the store but I love to put two raw egg yokes (fresh laid) in my smoothies - been doing that for 20 yrs.

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