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BumRushDaShow

(143,960 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 03:00 PM Oct 15

More than 800 service members ejected from US military under 'don't ask, don't tell' receive honorable discharges

Source: CNN Politics

Published 11:49 AM EDT, Tue October 15, 2024


CNN — More than 800 records of service members who were kicked out of the military under the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy were recently upgraded to receive honorable discharges, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Tuesday. “Just over a year ago, I announced that the Department would, for the first time, begin to proactively review the military records of former Service members discharged during ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ because of their sexual orientation who might have been eligible for upgrades to the characterization of their discharge or changes to their reason for separation but had not yet applied,” Austin said.

“After a year of exceptional work, the Military Department Review Boards directed relief in 96.8% of the 851 cases that they proactively reviewed.” Austin announced in September 2023 that the Pentagon would be “initiating new outreach campaigns” to reach LGBTQ+ service members who may have been discharged based on their sexual orientation.

Congress officially repealed the policy, which prohibited openly bisexual, gay, or lesbian individuals from serving in the military, in 2011. A service member’s discharge status determines what benefits they are eligible for after military service. An individual who has received a discharge characterized as other than honorable or under bad conduct, for example, may not receive full benefits from the Veterans Affairs.

Last year, Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks said troops “were given discharges that may have denied them access to veterans’ benefits like home loans, healthcare, GI Bill tuition assistance, and even some government jobs.” Austin said Tuesday that with the hundreds of changes recently made in the proactive review, 96% of all service members who were kicked out of the military under “don’t ask, don’t tell” — and who served long enough to receive a merit-based characterization of that service — now have an honorable discharge.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/15/politics/service-members-dont-ask-dont-tell/index.html

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More than 800 service members ejected from US military under 'don't ask, don't tell' receive honorable discharges (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 15 OP
Good. sheshe2 Oct 15 #1
Bravo! Mrsfiddlegirl Oct 15 #2
Many more can't benefit TommyT139 Oct 15 #3
I suspect that those who were pressured to leave to keep their cases under wraps soldierant Oct 16 #22
And yet a convicted rapist can run to be the commander in chief. Oh, did I mention a felon and habitual liar? usaf-vet Oct 15 #4
oops progressoid Oct 15 #5
I was lucky enough to meet and talk with Katie Miller over 20 years ago. multigraincracker Oct 15 #6
Reading this brings me to tears. Hope22 Oct 15 #7
Me, too. Thank you for speaking for me and the wronged. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 15 #9
Hugs and love to you! 💗💗💗🙏🏼💐💐 n/t Hope22 Oct 15 #12
Hugs and love to you, Hope22. ❤️🙏 littlemissmartypants Oct 15 #13
Good.. best news I've seen all day.. mountain grammy Oct 15 #8
Kick. littlemissmartypants Oct 15 #10
Yes! LoisB Oct 15 #11
About damn time...nt Wounded Bear Oct 15 #14
I'm glad to see it. I don't know how many lives and careers were devastated. 70sEraVet Oct 15 #15
As it should be. republianmushroom Oct 15 #16
I will just say great and dispense with the tirade about them doing it at all. Peace. twodogsbarking Oct 15 #17
This is great news acknowledging a great injustice. Martin68 Oct 15 #18
So how "bout those who planned to be "lifers"? GAJMac Oct 15 #19
It sure took them long enough. appleannie1 Oct 16 #20
Awesome! n/t iluvtennis Oct 16 #21
This is a little bit of justice for our fellow Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines. C0RI0LANUS Oct 16 #23

TommyT139

(748 posts)
3. Many more can't benefit
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 04:01 PM
Oct 15

Because they were pressured to leave using various excuses in order to avoid being outed.

Of course those discharges are tricky to make a process for, but we must not forget that there are service members who were forced out for their orientation or gender identity, who aren't benefitting from this wonderful and compassionate policy.

soldierant

(7,965 posts)
22. I suspect that those who were pressured to leave to keep their cases under wraps
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:41 PM
Oct 16

were at least given discharges that were General under Honorable Conditions, if not Honorable Discharges. Otherwise it isn't under wraps. And if so, they have all the rights of honorably discharged veterans.

I served in the sixties and seventies. I worked with a couple of Lesbian enlisted who were pretty clearly a pair. No one minded but the Corps. One was transferred, and not just transferred, but transferred to Okinawa (I was in San Diego at the time.) It was just plain cruel. The one who was left asked if I would let her use my home phone to call the other, and of course pay for the call. And of course I agreed. It was - I hate the word pathetic, it sounds so condescending, but it was that impressive how grateful she was (it may well have saved the other woman's life. Which didn't occur to me then. But knowing what I know now, I think it's likely.)

usaf-vet

(7,012 posts)
4. And yet a convicted rapist can run to be the commander in chief. Oh, did I mention a felon and habitual liar?
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 04:04 PM
Oct 15

multigraincracker

(34,261 posts)
6. I was lucky enough to meet and talk with Katie Miller over 20 years ago.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 04:29 PM
Oct 15

When I fist met her she hadn’t came out and we talked about military school. Talked with her a year later after coming out and we talked about misconceptions about gay folks. I learned a lot from that conversation.

Sorry that was a little over 10 years ago not 20. I have very fat fingers.

Hope22

(3,082 posts)
7. Reading this brings me to tears.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 04:30 PM
Oct 15

These people were put through the wringer! Careers stopped short. How long have we lived with this bull$#it madness?!

70sEraVet

(4,221 posts)
15. I'm glad to see it. I don't know how many lives and careers were devastated.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 06:06 PM
Oct 15

I saw how much a gay man had to endure, without being able to turn to his superior officers for help. But that was well before the 'don't ask don't tell'.

GAJMac

(232 posts)
19. So how "bout those who planned to be "lifers"?
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 08:42 PM
Oct 15

The ones whose full intention was to serve at least 20 years? The ones who were working toward receiving lifetime medical benefits? The ones who planned on the military retirement checks after they served their time and their country?
Why shouldn't those good warfighters be made whole?

appleannie1

(5,203 posts)
20. It sure took them long enough.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:14 AM
Oct 16

Hopefully, in the meantime, they have been able to find decent jobs with understanding employers.

C0RI0LANUS

(1,805 posts)
23. This is a little bit of justice for our fellow Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:50 PM
Oct 16

"You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to be able to shoot straight."

Republican US Senator Barry Goldwater

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