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former9thward

(33,424 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 04:14 PM Oct 16

Italy passes anti-surrogacy law that effectively bars gay couples from becoming parents

Source: Washington Post

ROME — Italy on Wednesday passed the West’s most restrictive law against international surrogacy, threatening would-be parents who use birth mothers abroad with jail time and severe fines in a move that critics say will chiefly target same-sex couples.

Domestic surrogacy was already banned in Italy, as it is in some other countries, but the amended Italian law goes further, classifying surrogacy as a rare universal crime that transcends borders, like terrorism or genocide.

The measure marks the strongest salvo yet in far-right Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni’s bid to put a conservative stamp on Italian society, and it elevates surrogacy as a hot-button issue in the West’s raging culture wars.

The law, passed last year by the lower house and effectively ensured by the Senate vote Wednesday, also criminalizes work by Italian citizens employed as doctors, nurses and technicians in foreign fertility clinics that facilitate surrogacies.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/10/16/italy-surrogacy-ban-gay-parents/

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Italy passes anti-surrogacy law that effectively bars gay couples from becoming parents (Original Post) former9thward Oct 16 OP
Fascists Joinfortmill Oct 16 #1
RW ideology is anti-intellectualism wolfie001 Oct 16 #2
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ PortTack Oct 16 #3
I don't understand this reasoning at all... slightlv Oct 16 #4
I think it's "critics say will chiefly target same-sex couples" muriel_volestrangler Oct 16 #6
Makes as much sense as anything... which is exactly none! n/t slightlv Oct 16 #7
This is heartbreaking. Teacher of the Year Oct 16 #5

wolfie001

(3,627 posts)
2. RW ideology is anti-intellectualism
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 04:21 PM
Oct 16

This will have far-reaching consequences and in this era of filming everything, it will not be pretty. They won the battle but lost the war long ago. Reaching back to 1922 is not going to help them.

slightlv

(4,325 posts)
4. I don't understand this reasoning at all...
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:43 PM
Oct 16

someone please explain it to me. Is it the fact that money may (and many times IS) involved? What makes it on the level of terrorism and genocide? The fact you may be introducing a different race or racial mix into the country of pure white? (I don't think Italy is pure white, but I may be wrong there, I admit).

Just like IVF, Family Planning, and just "rut and see", families come in all types. What makes this ONE type of family so inherently evil?

muriel_volestrangler

(102,476 posts)
6. I think it's "critics say will chiefly target same-sex couples"
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 06:06 PM
Oct 16

The neofascist government may be OK with heterosexual couples using a surrogate mother (I don't know; the more fundamentalist may be against that too, on the grounds it's "not natural&quot , but if this can hurt same-sex couples, they're OK with some others being hurt too, if they're not too common.

5. This is heartbreaking.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 06:01 PM
Oct 16

I'll be kind of crass and put it real simple: a straight drug addict guy can just go knock up a drunk woman, never talk to her again and she can raise the kid at her crash pad in poverty and this is acceptable parenting.

A gay person cannot make detailed plans and commitments to bring a child into the world, with another consulting adult, often at great thought, expense and with much decision making and care--because that would be unfair to the child.

Pardon me DU, I think I have to go make some angry tweets.

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