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BumRushDaShow

(142,248 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:35 PM Oct 16

JD Vance says Trump did not lose the 2020 US election

Source: Reuters

October 16, 2024 5:48 PM EDT Updated 37 min ago


Oct 16 (Reuters) - After dodging the issue for weeks, Republican vice-presidential candidate JD Vance said unequivocally on Wednesday he believes false claims that Donald Trump did not lose the 2020 election.

Taking questions from reporters at a campaign event in Williamsport, Pennsylvania, Vance was again asked if Trump lost to President Joe Biden four years ago. “On the election of 2020, I've answered this question directly a million times. No! I think there are serious problems in 2020,” Vance said. “So, did Donald Trump lose the election in 2020? Not by the words that I would use.”

Trump, the Republican candidate for president in 2024, continues to falsely claim that he lost the 2020 election due to extensive voter fraud, a view shared by millions of his supporters. Numerous inquiries, however, have found no evidence of fraud.

During his current run for president, Trump has suggested he will challenge the results if he does not prevail in the Nov. 5 contest against Democrat Kamala Harris, the US vice president. His efforts to overturn the 2020 election led to his indictment by federal and state officials. He still awaits trial in those cases. His refusal to accept the outcome also sparked the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol by thousands of his supporters.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/jd-vance-says-trump-did-not-lose-2020-us-election-2024-10-16/

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JD Vance says Trump did not lose the 2020 US election (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 16 OP
ask him if he's just saying that PedroXimenez Oct 16 #1
He knows that if he DOESN'T say it, the first round of purges will include HIM JHB Oct 17 #49
So, On a Very Fundamental Level, This Supposed College Graduate and Purported Homo Sapiens The Roux Comes First Oct 16 #2
Vance is well on his way to becoming the answer to a very difficult trivia question. mwb970 Oct 16 #3
Nice! jfz9580m Oct 16 #27
"Serious problems"???? The Unmitigated Gall Oct 16 #4
Serious problems alternative facts onetexan Oct 17 #36
I'm convinced that was part of the "deal" usonian Oct 16 #5
Never pays to sell one's soul to the devil onetexan Oct 17 #37
Yes. ShazzieB Oct 17 #41
Not necessarily. ShazzieB Oct 17 #43
All the lies and what he's done this year will come up to bite him in 2028 onetexan Oct 17 #44
So we might think. ShazzieB Oct 17 #55
"Not by the words that I would use" - TBF Oct 16 #6
Exactly. He knows he's lying. Raven123 Oct 16 #7
He doesn't want to upset Trump, either. ShazzieB Oct 17 #42
Hasn't that been the Republican Party line all along? n/t Valdosta Oct 16 #8
OK then.. Escape Oct 16 #9
ShadyVance did it with the love seat debm55 Oct 16 #23
and i'm sure there is photographic evidence of him & the couch (compliments of AI) nt orleans Oct 16 #24
"technically speaking" according to him IF more people Klarkashton Oct 16 #10
Ah, the old Hunter's Laptop dodge, eh? NBachers Oct 17 #40
But Hunter Biden's laptop wasn't the voter fraud issue I remember them kvetching about in 2020. tetedur Oct 17 #53
Failing this most basic of all Kool-Aid tests illustrates he's either willfully ignorant or just dishonest. Torchlight Oct 16 #11
Can't wait for that useful idiot to go back into obscurity and never hear about him ever again. Dave Bowman Oct 16 #12
Why does no journalist then ask for the evidence of sinkingfeeling Oct 16 #13
JD Vance is a dipshit who thinks women are baby factories... Rizen Oct 16 #14
Ah jaysus !! CountAllVotes Oct 16 #15
He is a lying POS. Full stop. Bristlecone Oct 16 #16
A Few Days Earlier DallasNE Oct 16 #17
Dutiful water carrier for the orange asshole nt Javaman Oct 16 #18
JD Vance reminds me of "I have my hands in front of my eyes, Mommie! You can't see me!" chouchou Oct 16 #19
Well, that's the ballgame people mahina Oct 16 #20
"Not by the words that I would use." dchill Oct 16 #21
Alternative facts Seinan Sensei Oct 16 #29
THAT old chestnut! dchill Oct 16 #34
Says the guy with tattoo eyeliner.... Evolve Dammit Oct 16 #22
He's sure setting himself up to be President Vance, isn't he? slightlv Oct 16 #25
What a moron Shady Vance is, by "by the words that I would use"? WTF does that mean? 4lbs Oct 16 #26
Tapdancing Asshole roscoeroscoe Oct 16 #28
Tapdancing asshole... GoYouPackersGo Oct 17 #52
the orange fuck lost the EC, by the exact amount of his... bahboo Oct 16 #30
Someone should ask JD Divan if he really won Ohio. There were questions about it's legitimacy Hassler Oct 16 #31
NEXT WEEK ON "VANCE!" Montauk6 Oct 16 #32
It's puzzling how Vance, The Prince of Gish Gallop, oasis Oct 16 #33
Then why didn't he say so when he was asked outright during the debate?? ailsagirl Oct 17 #35
someone please explain to that ahole fob Oct 17 #38
Be wary of those who wish to revise history. Aussie105 Oct 17 #39
Kick BlueWavePsych Oct 17 #45
The time has long since passed The Wizard Oct 17 #46
The real threat comes from The Wizard Oct 17 #47
Will Vance take a polygraph? (NT) The Wizard Oct 17 #48
And Tim Ryan didn't lose his Senate race. mwooldri Oct 17 #50
So, Was he... purr-rat beauty Oct 17 #51
Anyone who doubts their intent this time around... ColoradoHoosier Oct 17 #54

JHB

(37,414 posts)
49. He knows that if he DOESN'T say it, the first round of purges will include HIM
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 07:05 AM
Oct 17

It won't save him, because as the constitutionally-designated successor, he's a threat, someone who has a motive to get rid of him and whose loyalty is suspect.

The Roux Comes First

(1,561 posts)
2. So, On a Very Fundamental Level, This Supposed College Graduate and Purported Homo Sapiens
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:39 PM
Oct 16

Wants to cavil over the tautness of the nylon webbing on the deck chairs before we get around to talking about the iceberg!

What a callous piece of shit!

usonian

(13,782 posts)
5. I'm convinced that was part of the "deal"
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:42 PM
Oct 16

How you sell your soul to someone who sold his soul is beyond me.

ShazzieB

(18,641 posts)
41. Yes.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 03:08 AM
Oct 17

The first rule of working for Trump kwhich is essentially what he's doing) if that you have to be willing to lie about whatever he wants to lie about.

ShazzieB

(18,641 posts)
43. Not necessarily.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 03:20 AM
Oct 17

When he and Trump lose, his Semate seat will still be there. He doesn't come up for reelection until 2028.

ShazzieB

(18,641 posts)
55. So we might think.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:01 PM
Oct 17

I'm just really cynical when it comes to Republicans these days. When I look at what other Republican Senators and Reps get away with and still get reelected over and over, I'm not sure it's safe to write him off completely.

He's also got several years left on his Senate term, and voters have short memories. I wish I could feel sure this would finish him, but I'm not convinced it's a safe bet.

TBF

(34,294 posts)
6. "Not by the words that I would use" -
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:42 PM
Oct 16

WTF kind of answer is that?

He knows full well that Trump lost but doesn't want to upset the cult.

ShazzieB

(18,641 posts)
42. He doesn't want to upset Trump, either.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 03:12 AM
Oct 17

I think that's why he made a pretzel out of himself trying not to answer that question directly.

But living in Trump World means signing on to the lies, as he has found out.

Escape

(34 posts)
9. OK then..
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:52 PM
Oct 16

I was holding judgment on an issue concerning Mr Vance, but, under these circumstances, I think I can go ahead and express my solemn opinion now:

JD Vance DID have sex with a couch.

Klarkashton

(2,065 posts)
10. "technically speaking" according to him IF more people
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:52 PM
Oct 16

Were aware of Hunter Biden's laptop it would have
Changed the outcome.
That is quite an IF if you ask me and it's completely speculative.
The fact is that trump didn't have the votes so he lost the election. There is no other legit answer to the question.

tetedur

(1,080 posts)
53. But Hunter Biden's laptop wasn't the voter fraud issue I remember them kvetching about in 2020.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 07:45 AM
Oct 17

Wasn't dead people voting, illegals voting, Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss etc. their main targets of accusations?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

The laptop surfaced during Giuliani's quest to blame Ukraine for Russia's hacking of the DNC. Trump was still trying to blame someone else for his Russia connections in the 2016 election even after he had been acquitted in the first impeachment. He tried to rope Ukraine into smearing Joe Biden in the run up to the 2020 election and was caught and impeached.

Torchlight

(4,251 posts)
11. Failing this most basic of all Kool-Aid tests illustrates he's either willfully ignorant or just dishonest.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 05:53 PM
Oct 16

Either one is poor reflection on his person's characters, but as I'm confident Jimmy learned to lift the lid before sitting down at a reasonable age, that only leaves us with...

Rizen

(803 posts)
14. JD Vance is a dipshit who thinks women are baby factories...
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 06:13 PM
Oct 16

and doesn't have much else going on in that thick skull of his.

CountAllVotes

(21,067 posts)
15. Ah jaysus !!
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 06:17 PM
Oct 16

Not this crapola AGAIN!

Just say NO to tRUMP, you know that freak with the 32 felonies!

How a convicted FELON is able to run for POTUS is beyond my comprehension!

DallasNE

(7,557 posts)
17. A Few Days Earlier
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 07:06 PM
Oct 16

An online journalist shouted at Vance "did Donald Trump lose the 2020 election". When Vance did not respond he again asked "did Donald Trump not lose the 2020 election" to which Vance answered "yes". Astonished, the journalist clarified "you're saying Trump did not lose the 2020 election" and Vance said "yeah". So Vance has been giving a one-word answer for a few days and now is the first he has elaborated.

mahina

(18,938 posts)
20. Well, that's the ballgame people
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 08:09 PM
Oct 16

Last edited Wed Oct 16, 2024, 08:40 PM - Edit history (1)

We work, we fight, no letup, but that’s the game right there.

slightlv

(4,325 posts)
25. He's sure setting himself up to be President Vance, isn't he?
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 08:52 PM
Oct 16

Wonder if trump has enough brain cells left to recognize this fact?

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
26. What a moron Shady Vance is, by "by the words that I would use"? WTF does that mean?
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:07 PM
Oct 16
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election

Did Biden get more votes than Dumpy? YES

Did Biden win more voting areas than Dumpy? YES

Did Biden get more Electoral Votes than Dumpy? YES

So.... Dumpy f*cking lost 2020 by any definition a stable mind can think of to use.

However, "by the words that I would use". What a crock of sh*t.

Dumpy done got beat by the other old white guy, and he can't take it. The mental hit and slam to his ego was too big. Errr..... bigly.

bahboo

(16,953 posts)
30. the orange fuck lost the EC, by the exact amount of his...
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 10:57 PM
Oct 16

2016 landslide mandate. Where he of course lost the popular vote by 2.5 million. Methinks the couch lover is full of shit....

Montauk6

(8,617 posts)
32. NEXT WEEK ON "VANCE!"
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 11:18 PM
Oct 16

Interviewer: ...AGAIN, Senator, DID Donald Trump lose the 2020 election?

VANCE!: Look, with the MANY issues uncovered in every state, before and after, those are words that I would more than likely not put together in a sentence.

oasis

(51,703 posts)
33. It's puzzling how Vance, The Prince of Gish Gallop,
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 11:20 PM
Oct 16

gives only a brief reply whenever he’s asked that question.

Aussie105

(6,254 posts)
39. Be wary of those who wish to revise history.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:24 AM
Oct 17

Be wary of those who try to ignore historical events and dismiss commonly known evidence as not worthy of consideration.

Be wary of those who evade simple questions.

Be wary of those who eye couches with carnal lust, malice and mischief in mind.

. . . not talking about anyone specific, honest!

The Wizard

(12,863 posts)
46. The time has long since passed
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 06:17 AM
Oct 17

to lock him up because Garland dropped the ball. Lock him up . Wash, rinse, repeat. Butner, NC beckons.

The Wizard

(12,863 posts)
47. The real threat comes from
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 06:25 AM
Oct 17

House Speaker Mike Johnson who has already stated he will not certify the election if Harris prevails. Methinks Trump has the dirt hiding in Johnson's past. What is the Speaker hiding? The American people have the right to know if the Speaker is compromised. Note to the Speaker: According to the Bible the truth will set you free.

mwooldri

(10,390 posts)
50. And Tim Ryan didn't lose his Senate race.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 07:23 AM
Oct 17

Shady Vance stole the seat.

Sorry just had to apply that guys logic for a moment.

ColoradoHoosier

(27 posts)
54. Anyone who doubts their intent this time around...
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 07:46 AM
Oct 17

...to deny the count and try to throw it to the House, then to their Opus Dei friends on the court, this pretty much removes that doubt

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