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SouthBayDem

(32,459 posts)
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 05:49 PM Oct 19

Stanford psychologist behind the controversial "Stanford Prison Experiment" dies at 91

Source: Associated Press

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Philip G. Zimbardo, the psychologist behind the controversial “Stanford Prison Experiment” that was intended to examine the psychological experiences of imprisonment, has died. He was 91.

Stanford University announced Friday that Zimbardo died Oct. 14 at his home in San Francisco. A cause of death was not provided.

In the 1971 prison study, Zimbardo and a team of graduate students recruited college-aged males to spend two weeks in a mock prison in the basement of a building on the Stanford campus.

The study was ended after six days as the students playing guards became psychologically abusive and those playing prisoners became anxious, emotionally depressed and enraged, according to the Stanford statement.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/zimbardo-stanford-prison-experiment-psychology-af0ce3eb92b8442adbe7a40f5998e25f

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mahina

(18,938 posts)
1. There passes a great man. Peace and comfort to his wife who ended this monstrous experiment.
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 06:04 PM
Oct 19

His TED talk on the psychology of evil Which I would bet you $1000 the people behind the right wing push know very well



The nature of evil and the making of heroes.
https://m.


Redleg

(6,138 posts)
2. And Zimbardo did other important work besides the prison study
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 07:18 PM
Oct 19

but he won't be remembered for it, at least not by the public. It is sad to see him pass but he seemed to live a long full life.

Redleg

(6,138 posts)
13. I am aware of the issues with the Stanford study
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 08:42 PM
Oct 21

This doesn't negate the other good work he did in social psychology.

Javaman

(63,101 posts)
14. actually it kind of does.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 06:39 AM
Oct 22

the foundation of his career reputation is built upon the stanford study.

if he falsified that, what else has he done?

Redleg

(6,138 posts)
15. The Stanford study was sloppy and the inferences Zimbardo made about
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 11:37 AM
Oct 22

the power of the situational factors relative to the individual difference factors (e.g., personality) were over-stated. Furthermore, it appears Zimbardo provided some coaching to the "prison guards" on how they were to behave, which certainly was a manipulation and one that would likely influence the guards' behavior toward the inmates. There are numerous ethical considerations too in how the study was conducted. I don't know that you could go as far as to say the study was "falsified." The main problem, from a research perspective, is that it would be hard to make strong inferences about human behavior because of the weaknesses of the study.

I don't think his poor work on this study should lead us to question the legitimacy of all his subsequent work. By his own admission, this was a poorly designed "experiment" that got out of control, and he acknowledged his own role in this. His own peers and journal editors and the journal peer-review processes would possibly have detected gross scholarly misconduct if it were a pattern in his subsequent work.

Javaman

(63,101 posts)
4. The Stanford Prison Experiment. We just learned it was a fraud.
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 09:42 PM
Oct 19
https://www.vox.com/2018/6/13/17449118/stanford-prison-experiment-fraud-psychology-replication

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A new exposé published by Medium based on previously unpublished recordings of Philip Zimbardo, the Stanford psychologist who ran the study, and interviews with his participants, offers convincing evidence that the guards in the experiment were coached to be cruel. It also shows that the experiment’s most memorable moment — of a prisoner descending into a screaming fit, proclaiming, “I’m burning up inside!” — was the result of the prisoner acting. “I took it as a kind of an improv exercise,” one of the guards told reporter Ben Blum. “I believed that I was doing what the researchers wanted me to do.”

mahina

(18,938 posts)
9. Maybe. I'll read these later today. He wouldnt be the first. It was impossible to replicate his results
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 12:08 PM
Oct 20
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31380664/
Debunking the Stanford Prison Experiment
Thibault Le Texier. Am Psychol. 2019 Oct. 143 citations

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30961456/
Revisiting the Stanford prison experiment, again: Examining demand characteristics in the guard orientation
Jared Bartels. J Soc Psychol. 2019.

Do you think it is true that average people can easily be persuaded to be cruel by appealing to authoritarian ideas?

Javaman

(63,101 posts)
11. But the one he's know for by the general public, was total bullshit.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 06:53 PM
Oct 20

you can do plenty of great things, but if you make one massive scam mistake such as he did, that sullies a career.

everything else now is called into question.

Redleg

(6,138 posts)
12. Indeed.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 08:41 PM
Oct 21

It would be a shame to remember him only for the Stanford study (I hesitate to call it an experiment).

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