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BumRushDaShow

(142,278 posts)
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 05:45 AM Oct 20

Elon Musk announces $1M giveaway for voters who sign petition in battleground states

Source: NBC News

Oct. 18, 2024, 1:29 PM EDT / Updated Oct. 20, 2024, 12:36 AM EDT


Billionaire Elon Musk has upped his financial offer for registered swing state voters to sign a conservative-leaning petition, announcing Saturday that his pro-Trump super PAC would be awarding $1 million to a random signee every day from now until the election. Musk initially launched the petition and referral offer in early October. His America PAC released the petition, which is in support of the Constitution’s First and Second amendments.

The offer grew this week from $47 to $100 for registered Pennsylvania voters, and on Saturday, Musk unveiled the $1 million giveaway at a town hall event in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Musk said Saturday the goal is to get between 1 million and 2 million voters in battleground states to sign the petition “because I think this sends a crucial message to our elected politicians to, you know, care about the outcome in battleground states.”

The new giveaway appeared to refer to anyone in a battleground state who signed the petition. Musk delivered the first of the checks Saturday to a man who emerged from the crowd to loud cheers, saying the man "had no idea" he'd be selected. "The only thing we ask for the million dollars is that you be a spokesperson for the petition, and that's it, really," Musk said.

The man took the microphone, thanking Musk and saying he was a "big fan" of his. Saturday's announcement, Musk admitted, is an effort to get the "legacy media" to report on the petition.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musk-raises-payment-offer-100-voters-sign-petition-rcna176075



They are down to "buying votes".
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Elon Musk announces $1M giveaway for voters who sign petition in battleground states (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 20 OP
Why do we keep advertising this here on DU? Think. Again. Oct 20 #1
LBN is not General Discussion BumRushDaShow Oct 20 #3
Right, thanks, I was curious about why we're seeing so many... Think. Again. Oct 20 #4
There are dozens of forums and groups BumRushDaShow Oct 20 #6
Yes, thanks.... Think. Again. Oct 20 #8
It's a "pay to play" story that establishes WHERE all that money he is spending is going BumRushDaShow Oct 20 #12
I think we should advertise it everywhere and have liberals sign up. Waste their resources and maybe win $1million Hassin Bin Sober Oct 20 #35
This is not the American way. Send him back to where he came from. Walleye Oct 20 #2
I thought literally buying votes was illegal Bengus81 Oct 20 #5
Not buying votes The Madcap Oct 20 #7
YES, very unethical for sure!! Proves bluestarone Oct 20 #24
It also sounds like another grift as well. Crowman2009 Oct 20 #9
Or just pay everybody a guaranteed $1000 to sign - he might get more signatures that way. TheRickles Oct 20 #10
P.O.S. Blue for the win Oct 20 #11
This bad immigrant should be thrown out of the country. travelingthrulife Oct 20 #13
Unless he's gathering signatures outside early voting locations, I don't see how this helps Trump Fiendish Thingy Oct 20 #14
Oh FFS - how is this legal Kashkakat v.2.0 Oct 20 #15
Isn't this illegal? Botany Oct 20 #16
That was my first thought jfz9580m Oct 20 #18
He is not buying votes. Its a petition .nt. drray23 Oct 20 #28
This again is the classic Trump/Trump-adjacent story jfz9580m Oct 20 #17
A society that allows billionaires to exist is a broken society. PSPS Oct 20 #19
That should be it's own post! Clouds Passing Oct 20 #20
It's certainly the sign of a deeply dysfunctional socioeconomic system. Magoo48 Oct 20 #36
This is election interference. hadEnuf Oct 20 #21
52 U.S.C. Section 10307(c) HariSeldon Oct 20 #22
Buying votes is legal? Martin68 Oct 20 #23
Reading comprehension is a useful skill. drray23 Oct 20 #30
He's requiring the participants to be registered voters in a swing state. TwilightZone Oct 20 #32
and obligation to be spokes person for their cause is required nt Kashkakat v.2.0 Oct 21 #47
Chance, Consideration, and a Prize. C_U_L8R Oct 20 #25
So we can bus thousands of harris supporters in to sign up to win? kerouac2 Oct 20 #26
Wow. Talk about buying votes. Beartracks Oct 20 #27
How... skennis1 Oct 20 #29
I'm not eligible - neither wants anything to do with Ohio - Just like TWC never sends Cantori Backseat Driver Oct 20 #31
Musk was the kid who paid other kids to sign his yearbook... CaptainTruth Oct 20 #33
Can't we kick enigmania Oct 20 #34
I'd trade all of his kind for one Jane Goodall. Magoo48 Oct 20 #37
isn't this election interference? 4catsmom Oct 20 #38
Filed complaints... ultralite001 Oct 20 #39
Soooo? Illegal? Abstractartist Oct 20 #40
99.9% of the signers will be left holding their "censored" Jacson6 Oct 20 #41
It's like the wild west where rich fucks lickered up the electorate with free booze in exchange for their vote. Evolve Dammit Oct 20 #42
Musk is a maniac and will spend every dollar he has Politicub Oct 20 #43
WTF is this stupid petition for? I don't get it. LymphocyteLover Oct 20 #44
if found illegal et tu Oct 20 #45
Tell him what he wants MonteSS Oct 20 #46

Think. Again.

(17,955 posts)
1. Why do we keep advertising this here on DU?
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 05:53 AM
Oct 20

This must be the fourth post that I've personally come across here.

It seems weird.

BumRushDaShow

(142,278 posts)
3. LBN is not General Discussion
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 06:14 AM
Oct 20

Duplicates are not permitted here.

There are some who trash the General Discussion forum so they are not seeing the repetitive OPs on the same subject. Alternately, you might find others who are Lounge Lizards and rarely come out of the Lounge.

You can trash the LBN forum - just click the "Trash Forum" at the top of the Forum's page.

Think. Again.

(17,955 posts)
4. Right, thanks, I was curious about why we're seeing so many...
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 07:17 AM
Oct 20

...posts on the musk payment for signing his petition here on DU.

BumRushDaShow

(142,278 posts)
6. There are dozens of forums and groups
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 07:25 AM
Oct 20

but LBN forbids "duplicates" and General Discussion (the most viewed) does not.

Think. Again.

(17,955 posts)
8. Yes, thanks....
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 07:40 AM
Oct 20

I was just wondering why we seem to be amplifying that particular story so much here on DU.

BumRushDaShow

(142,278 posts)
12. It's a "pay to play" story that establishes WHERE all that money he is spending is going
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 08:46 AM
Oct 20

aside from what is probably money-laundering given what is going on with this - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143325325

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,691 posts)
35. I think we should advertise it everywhere and have liberals sign up. Waste their resources and maybe win $1million
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 01:04 PM
Oct 20

Fuck em

The Madcap

(374 posts)
7. Not buying votes
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 07:28 AM
Oct 20

But highly unethical. Deport this particular immigrant ASAP with just the clothes on his back.

bluestarone

(18,225 posts)
24. YES, very unethical for sure!! Proves
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 10:30 AM
Oct 20

Where the cultist party is headed!! We can expect lots more of this BULLSHIT in our future politics with these assholes. They want to truly change our country. From this day on we need to be on top of their bullshit. Citizens of this country have a DUTY to this country. VOTING SMART is our duty!!

TheRickles

(2,403 posts)
10. Or just pay everybody a guaranteed $1000 to sign - he might get more signatures that way.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 08:26 AM
Oct 20

He must realize that the optics are ridiculously sleazy, as this is just one step away from vote-buying. But I guess he can afford it - chump change for him.

Fiendish Thingy

(18,510 posts)
14. Unless he's gathering signatures outside early voting locations, I don't see how this helps Trump
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 08:55 AM
Oct 20

Perhaps Musk is using the petition as a data harvesting tool for his hapless GOTV operation?

Botany

(72,477 posts)
16. Isn't this illegal?
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 09:12 AM
Oct 20

I thought you not allowed to buy votes (except for the vote of Supreme Court Justices.)

hadEnuf

(2,702 posts)
21. This is election interference.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 09:39 AM
Oct 20

Maybe not technically illegal, but it's election interference.

This country used to revile this stuff. What's happened?

Conservative greed is what happened.

HariSeldon

(500 posts)
22. 52 U.S.C. Section 10307(c)
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 10:22 AM
Oct 20
Whoever knowingly or willfully gives false information as to his name, address or period of residence in the voting district for the purpose of establishing his eligibility to register or vote, or conspires with another individual for the purpose of encouraging his false registration to vote or illegal voting, or pays or offers to pay or accepts payment either for registration to vote or for voting shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both…


ETA: Also, page 44 of the DOJ Election Crimes Manual makes it clear that lottery chances constitute "payment".

drray23

(7,962 posts)
30. Reading comprehension is a useful skill.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 11:55 AM
Oct 20

Despicable as Musk is, he is not buying votes in this instance. It's signatures for a petition, not a vote.

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
32. He's requiring the participants to be registered voters in a swing state.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 12:27 PM
Oct 20

That, among other things, appears to be illegal. It's not just signatures for the petition.

https://electionlawblog.org/?p=146397

C_U_L8R

(45,691 posts)
25. Chance, Consideration, and a Prize.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 10:40 AM
Oct 20

That's a lottery. And it's not legal.
Not just during elections, but anytime.

kerouac2

(673 posts)
26. So we can bus thousands of harris supporters in to sign up to win?
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 10:51 AM
Oct 20

is it third party certified? be nice to have a dem win and announce their donations to dem candidates lol.

Beartracks

(13,565 posts)
27. Wow. Talk about buying votes.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 11:45 AM
Oct 20

This sure has escalated from simply paying people to go to Trump rallies.

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Backseat Driver

(4,635 posts)
31. I'm not eligible - neither wants anything to do with Ohio - Just like TWC never sends Cantori
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 11:55 AM
Oct 20

Anyway, I early voted Blue up and down this past Friday.

CaptainTruth

(7,213 posts)
33. Musk was the kid who paid other kids to sign his yearbook...
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 12:39 PM
Oct 20

...so he could have the most signatures, just to stroke his ego.

That's what he's doing here, paying people to sign his irrelevant petition.

He is a deeply insecure & emotionally broken person.

4catsmom

(227 posts)
38. isn't this election interference?
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 02:11 PM
Oct 20

or are we now so used to the GOP breaking the law in plain sight, we just shrug?

ultralite001

(1,137 posts)
39. Filed complaints...
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 02:38 PM
Oct 20

w/ the PA Secretary of State, DOJ Public Integrity Unit, FBI, Federal Election Commission, et al...

Buying votes is a crime, no matter how one attempts to "spin" it...

https://www.justice.gov/criminal/criminal-pin/election-crimes-branch

Abstractartist

(153 posts)
40. Soooo? Illegal?
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 04:13 PM
Oct 20

Paying for vote is not illegal?

I believe it is. Will that do fucking nothing Merrick Garland actually do something or will he put his thumb up his butt and just carry one.

Grow a pair Garland and act like you love your country, not a pretend partisan hack.

One thing I really think President Biden screwed up…, Merrick Garland in charge of the Justice department.

Evolve Dammit

(18,605 posts)
42. It's like the wild west where rich fucks lickered up the electorate with free booze in exchange for their vote.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 05:00 PM
Oct 20

Politicub

(12,287 posts)
43. Musk is a maniac and will spend every dollar he has
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 05:07 PM
Oct 20

to get Trump elected. He will do whatever it takes because it’s his path to inflict his twisted views on everyone. And his wealth will increase exponentially because the nation will be forced to take loans to fund tax cuts and subsidies for him and people like him.

He’s the most dangerous element in politics at the moment.

et tu

(1,883 posts)
45. if found illegal
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 07:39 PM
Oct 20

them leon can say 'i tried to help you but the
bad government won't let me- flow crocodile tears.
what a 'maroon'

MonteSS

(9 posts)
46. Tell him what he wants
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 07:49 PM
Oct 20

I would tell him what he wants, be his little parrot and squawk "Polly likes trump" and still vote for Kamala and Walz. Walk away with the $1 mil, and be like thanks suckers.

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