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BumRushDaShow

(142,277 posts)
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 05:09 PM Oct 20

Fighting demons: The New Apostolic Reformation is waging a holy war against democracy

Source: Salon

Published October 20, 2024 5:45AM (EDT)


“You do not attack the enemy — you attack the enemy’s strategy,” and the strategy of the Christian right “has always been to master the tools of electoral democracy in order to erode and to end it.” That advice, quoting Sun Tzu, came from Frederick Clarkson, a senior researcher at Political Research Associates (and Salon contributor), in a recent webinar, "The New Apostolic Reformation and the Threat to Democracy In Pennsylvania." Unlike earlier incarnations of the Christian right, the explicit goal of the widely-discussed but little-understood NAR is to install theocracy with a democratic facade, approximately on the Iranian model. They call it “theonomy.”

The movement is led by mutually recognized “apostles” and “prophets” who purport to receive direct guidance from God and see themselves engaged in spiritual warfare — literally, as in fighting actual demons — to gain dominion over the “seven mountains of culture”: family, religion, education, media, arts and entertainment, business and government. As in Iran, they wouldn’t just control government but every aspect of society, but would still call it democracy and claim, in the face of America’s "Godless Constitution," that this was what the founders wanted all along. It’s gaslighting in the name of God.

Understanding the NAR’s goals and strategy is crucial in exposing what the movement really wants, most of which is broadly unpopular. And how they want to get there — boosting turnout among a minority base by demonizing their fellow citizens — is highly corrosive to democracy itself. “The left is loaded with demons,” NAR apostle Lance Wallnau has said (according to Clarkson). “I don’t think it’s people anymore; I think you’re dealing with demons talking through people.”

Pennsylvania plays a key role in the NAR’s plans, and reinventing the state’s eponymous founder, William Penn, as a like-minded forebear — rather than the champion of religious diversity and secular government he actually was — is a core part of their strategy, as advanced by NAR apostle Abby Abildness. The webinar came three days after Republican vice-presidential nominee JD Vance appeared at an NAR-sponsored event in Monroeville, Pennsylvania, where he stood the biblical teaching to love the stranger on its head, without even trying to quote scripture.

Read more: https://www.salon.com/2024/10/20/fighting-demons-the-new-apostolic-reformation-is-waging-a-holy-against-democracy/

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kimbutgar

(23,271 posts)
1. Like this guy?
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 05:33 PM
Oct 20

A Donald Trump supporter attending one of the former president's political events over the weekend warned that Vice President Kamala Harris would "meet her maker real quick" if she did not pray. He also advised her to drop out of the race.

They don't want anything to do with God," he said. "I think [Harris] better get on her hands and her knees and start crying out to the one and true living God because if not, she's gonna meet her maker real quick."

"This is a man's world. This is a man's country. This... this country is supposed to be run like a business. And that is why that Donald Trump is the one that we need at this moment."

https://www.rawstory.com/kamala-harris-meet-her-maker/


Or these two idiots who interrupted her speech in Wisconsin where she sparkly kicked their butts!

https://www.rawstory.com/kamala-harris-hecklers/

Two hecklers complained to Fox News after they were escorted from Vice President Kamala Harris' rally in Wisconsin on Thursday.

Luke Polaske and Grant Beth told Fox News on Sunday that they attended the rally at the La Crosse Recreational Eagle Center because God told them to. The two men were asked to leave the rally after they interrupted Harris by yelling "Christ is king" and "Jesus is Lord" in response to her position on abortion rights.

"We were only here to protest our faith, and we did so," Beth explained. "I was pushed by an elderly woman. We were heckled at. We were cursed at. We were mocked."


These are the most unchristian people supporting a man who has no real faith nor goodness in their hearts.

They are false Christian’s and their words are blasphemous

They give Christianity a bad name

ancianita

(38,516 posts)
4. Totally.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 06:57 PM
Oct 20

And just as the Enemy can quote scripture or appear as a bright, holy light, the bottom line with witnessing to Jesus, and being a good Christian, is to discipline oneself away from all sins that Pride and Envy lead to.
Good Christians practice humility, gentleness (meekness) and forgiveness. A good Christian (heck, anyone, Christian or not) "shall know them by their fruits" -- so that those who create strife, division, opposition, are identifiable as following the Enemy. Jesus is quoted in warning of these things in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke.

ancianita

(38,516 posts)
5. Anyone who calls themselves Christian and yet worships power, or becomes a stumbling block for
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 07:09 PM
Oct 20

another Christian (like Harris) in the name of their God or Jesus, has sinned by breaking several commandments.
Power worshippers (whose faith and knowledge of their God and the Holy Trinity) are captured by the Enemy who would rather reign on Earth than serve in Heaven.

Any church that calls itself Christian teaches just the opposite of what these folks are doing. (Today's Mass sermon was broadly about serving God by always helping others.)

sprinkleeninow

(20,546 posts)
7. Eastern Orthodox Christianity exhorts:
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 09:38 PM
Oct 20
"We know where the (Orthodox) Church is (obvious temple edifices, etc.), but we don't know where it isn't."

IOW, no judging!! Period.

Edit: We're not to judge especially those who may be unchurched, follow no religion per se, etc. They may be living a holier and more pleasing life to the Creator than some professing to be Christian followers of Christ. Ye shall know them by their deeds.

Timeflyer

(2,630 posts)
10. Does god only give direct guidance to males? Is the penis a divine communication receptor?
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 07:08 AM
Oct 21

It just happens so frequently with guys who want dominion over the world, ya gotta wonder.

Kid Berwyn

(17,987 posts)
11. PRA has been on to USA's fascist right for a long time.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 08:54 AM
Oct 21

Along with the great investigative reporter Chip Berlet, the great investigative reporter Russ Bellant; from 1988:

Old NAZIs, the New Right, and the Republican Party

https://www.scribd.com/document/271696850/Old-Nazis-New-Right-Republican-Party-Russ-Bellant

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