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BumRushDaShow

(142,277 posts)
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 04:59 PM Oct 21

McDonald's Tells Workers It Doesn't Endorse Political Candidates After Trump Visit

Source: Bloomberg

October 21, 2024 at 9:31 AM EDT


McDonald’s Corp. said it’s not taking sides in the presidential election following Donald Trump’s visit to a Pennsylvania restaurant on Sunday. “McDonald’s does not endorse candidates for elected office and that remains true in this race for the next president,” the company said in an internal message seen by Bloomberg News. “We are not red or blue — we are golden.”

The burger chain has been dragged into the election conversation in part because candidate Kamala Harris has said she worked at the chain when she was a student. Trump’s visit — in which he cooked food, bagged fries and worked the drive-thru, according to his campaign — added more fuel to the discussion.

In its message, McDonald’s said local franchisee Derek Giacomantonio got a request from law enforcement about Trump’s “desire to visit a Pennsylvania restaurant.”

Pennsylvania is considered one of the key swing states that will determine the election. In an interview with Bloomberg News editor-in-chief John Micklethwait last week, Trump singled it out as one of the states that he would be closely watching on election night.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-10-21/mcdonald-s-mcd-tells-workers-it-doesn-t-endorse-candidates-after-trump-visit

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McDonald's Tells Workers It Doesn't Endorse Political Candidates After Trump Visit (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 21 OP
I'm done with McDonald's Meadowoak Oct 21 #1
Their food went down the toilet bowl years ago when they changed how they cook their fries. cstanleytech Oct 21 #7
"we" McD early employees used to tumble, cut, soak and fry real potatoes. usonian Oct 21 #14
Something tells me that the prison labor they 'hire' doesn't have much reason to care about cooking things right. Lancero Oct 21 #25
A Friend From Australia... The Conductor Oct 21 #2
An ad could kill them: Look what decades of Mickey D food did to this man. GreenWave Oct 21 #3
Supersize my order please! oasis Oct 21 #24
Some people were saying it was a closed down McDonalds and only opened for the photo-op. C Moon Oct 21 #4
Not true. johnp3907 Oct 21 #5
No, it was only closed for the stunt. However, what is true is that the store niyad Oct 22 #33
I'm thinking now I misunderstood them: they meant that it was closed for the photo-op. C Moon Oct 22 #34
Yes. niyad Oct 22 #39
Hang on, we pay law enforcement to be venue booking agents now? Think. Again. Oct 21 #6
I was wondering about that too Farmer-Rick Oct 21 #18
My question too. LiberalFighter Oct 21 #22
Might want to tell the franchise owners too. Initech Oct 21 #8
Something tells me all franchisees are getting a message from corporate Captain Zero Oct 21 #15
Corporate should have put a stop to it before it happened. Initech Oct 21 #20
Yeah I find that hard to believe underpants Oct 22 #54
Trump's visit to McDonalds was an F-U to Kamala. McDonalds is his turf. Initech Oct 21 #9
Stay golden McDonalds underpants Oct 22 #52
Hey McDonald's! If you can look at this shitshow and "not take a side" maxrandb Oct 21 #10
Not taking a side Farmer-Rick Oct 21 #19
I would imagine that corporate is trying to tip toe through this one roscoeroscoe Oct 21 #11
Haven't touched that garbage (or fast food in general) in a decade or more... EarthFirst Oct 21 #12
I stand corrected... EarthFirst Oct 21 #13
I remember maybe 20 years ago BumRushDaShow Oct 21 #17
That's not what corporate says unofficially Farmer-Rick Oct 21 #23
I've been to Mc D's once in the last few years, that will be my last visit. yaesu Oct 21 #16
Why was law enforcement calling the restaurant? LiberalFighter Oct 21 #21
I just took their app off my phone ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 21 #26
They still playing Fox News on TVs inside their restaurants? tanyev Oct 21 #27
MagaDonald's JoseBalow Oct 21 #28
I understood McD corporate made donations to the GOP. Cartoonist Oct 21 #29
They probably donate to both parties LeftInTX Oct 21 #30
From 2022, they gave money to both parties, but the biggest donations were to Republicans Wiz Imp Oct 22 #40
Looks like the numbers have shifted a bit since 2022: sl8 Oct 22 #44
Interesting. I just pulled the first numbers I found. Wiz Imp Oct 22 #45
We should all write nasty letters to McD's corporate LeftInTX Oct 21 #31
Why? Conjuay Oct 22 #50
Because they are helping elect Trump! LeftInTX Oct 22 #53
Fast food fries served by McTrump? Aussie105 Oct 22 #32
McDonald's "golden" image is permanently tarnished dlk Oct 22 #35
Think of it this way: Kamala Harris is so far in his head that he's ruining an American institution with his insecurity Novara Oct 22 #36
"How pathetic is that?" BumRushDaShow Oct 22 #37
When will people learn bmichaelh Oct 22 #38
According to this article, Corporate was definitely aware and approved of the visit Wiz Imp Oct 22 #41
"The Bloomberg article conveniently left out the part about Corporate knowing and approving. " BumRushDaShow Oct 22 #42
That sentence was not in the posted portion of the article and as you know, the whole article was not posted. Wiz Imp Oct 22 #43
"That sentence was not in the posted portion of the article and as you know, the whole article was not posted." BumRushDaShow Oct 22 #46
I'm not sure what your point is Wiz Imp Oct 22 #47
I don't know what your point is either BumRushDaShow Oct 22 #48
Oh boy. You seem to have a pathological need to be right and tell other people they are wrong. Wiz Imp Oct 22 #49
To reply BumRushDaShow Oct 22 #56
Whatever. You have fun with your indignant self righteous anger Wiz Imp Oct 22 #57
And technically, the Bloomberg article was misinformation Wiz Imp Oct 22 #58
Reading is fundamental BumRushDaShow Oct 22 #59
Got it. Reporting easily disproven information without fact checking just because the Trump campaign said it is A-OK. Wiz Imp Oct 22 #60
You have again moved the goal posts BumRushDaShow Oct 22 #61
Statements from the Trump campaign published in that article were known to be false before the article was Wiz Imp Oct 22 #62
Again - they merely reported "according to" BumRushDaShow Oct 22 #63
Wow. You really don't get it. Wiz Imp Oct 22 #64
Congrats for not reading dates and times! BumRushDaShow Oct 22 #65
And he didn't "staff" anything. The minute louslobbs Oct 22 #55
Yup, you betcha, McD.......... republianmushroom Oct 22 #51

cstanleytech

(27,001 posts)
7. Their food went down the toilet bowl years ago when they changed how they cook their fries.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 05:32 PM
Oct 21

Now they are pretty flavorless and more than not limp like they haven't been cooked.

usonian

(13,787 posts)
14. "we" McD early employees used to tumble, cut, soak and fry real potatoes.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 07:34 PM
Oct 21

Around this time.



Things change.

The Conductor

(188 posts)
2. A Friend From Australia...
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 05:14 PM
Oct 21

My friend Greg said that they will likely have to close that McDonald's now since everyone there saw a giant, orange cockroach in the food.

C Moon

(12,555 posts)
4. Some people were saying it was a closed down McDonalds and only opened for the photo-op.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 05:26 PM
Oct 21

Is there truth to that? It sounds unlikely to me.

niyad

(119,901 posts)
33. No, it was only closed for the stunt. However, what is true is that the store
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 02:31 AM
Oct 22

was cited recently for health code violations (gee, rather like that roach/bedbug hovel by Palm Beach).

Think. Again.

(17,955 posts)
6. Hang on, we pay law enforcement to be venue booking agents now?
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 05:30 PM
Oct 21

From the article excerpt:

"In its message, McDonald’s said local franchisee Derek Giacomantonio got a request from law enforcement about Trump’s “desire to visit a Pennsylvania restaurant.”

Farmer-Rick

(11,400 posts)
18. I was wondering about that too
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 08:52 PM
Oct 21

Why are the police setting up restaurant shoots for Trump?

The restaurant may have been closed because it failed their last health department inspection. The empoyees weren't washing their hands, weren't wearing hair restraints and were keeping the food at the wrong temperatures. Not sure if that's enough to close the store but it's enough for me to never visit a McDs again.

McDs Corporate did approve of the political stunt. Figures. Of course they took a political stance in support of Trump. It's pretty obvious they want to support the convicted felon.

Captain Zero

(7,505 posts)
15. Something tells me all franchisees are getting a message from corporate
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 07:47 PM
Oct 21

It may already be covered in small print they signed and, in this case, ignored.

Initech

(101,920 posts)
20. Corporate should have put a stop to it before it happened.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 08:56 PM
Oct 21

I really wonder how this guy was able to keep this hidden from them.

underpants

(186,633 posts)
54. Yeah I find that hard to believe
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 11:28 AM
Oct 22

I’ve known that he was going to A McDonalds for at least a week. No regional manager thought to figure out which one he was going to?

BTW his not wearing gloves or even a MAGA hat is consistent with this location. Repeated health inspection failings from what I’ve read. Employees not washing hands between glove changes etc.

roscoeroscoe

(1,605 posts)
11. I would imagine that corporate is trying to tip toe through this one
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 06:55 PM
Oct 21

I would bet money the franchisee did this stunt without clearing it with corporate.

Doesn't matter, I'm never getting McD's again. Going back to my lapsed determination to only get food from local shops or food trucks. Taco Tote, here I come!

EarthFirst

(3,151 posts)
12. Haven't touched that garbage (or fast food in general) in a decade or more...
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 07:03 PM
Oct 21

Not only is it poison; it’s expensive; and now this.

I’m willing to bet this franchise owner is in hot water with corporate.

EarthFirst

(3,151 posts)
13. I stand corrected...
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 07:07 PM
Oct 21

The company operates on a franchise model, which means the vast majority of its locations are independently owned and operated. Although franchise owners have to abide by certain guidelines in their agreements with the parent company, they are free to invite political candidates to serve fries without McDonald’s buy-in.

https://cnn.com/cnn/2024/10/21/business/mcdonalds-trump-visit-statement

BumRushDaShow

(142,277 posts)
17. I remember maybe 20 years ago
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 08:47 PM
Oct 21

hearing a fascinating program on one of Canada's radio stations (may have been CBC), where they discussed the whole franchising model for McDonald's.

For example, they mentioned that a franchisee might buy an existing store for "x" amount (I think back then they mentioned something like $600K on average for an existing building) or can actually pay more and build one from the ground up (I think over $1 million). They are all required to buy the ingredients (e.g., frozen patties, frozen fries, rolls, etc) from the corporate-specified/designated suppliers in order to ensure finished product consistency from restaurant to restaurant, etc. It was truly illuminating to hear what goes on behind the scenes.

Farmer-Rick

(11,400 posts)
23. That's not what corporate says unofficially
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 09:11 PM
Oct 21

My spouse use to manage a McDs. The unwritten rule was that if your store was going to be in a nation wide news story, you had better clear it through corporate.

My spouse got reprimanded by the store owner for not contacting corporate....the owner wasn't available to call....before cell phones.

The store was photographed in an animal abuse story about the meat and fat McDs was using back then. A photographer just drove by the store and took background footage for the story. No interviews, no blame on that store. Corporate wasn't happy.

In this case, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts corporate knew this was going down and allowed it.

yaesu

(8,230 posts)
16. I've been to Mc D's once in the last few years, that will be my last visit.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 08:34 PM
Oct 21

Not taking sides in this election is probably thought as a good business move but in reality not speaking out against the orange hitler bent on destroying this country for money shows that Mc D doesn't care about the country that gave them their start.

tanyev

(44,508 posts)
27. They still playing Fox News on TVs inside their restaurants?
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 10:18 PM
Oct 21

Because I’ve seen that at several different locations.

Cartoonist

(7,530 posts)
29. I understood McD corporate made donations to the GOP.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 10:33 PM
Oct 21

I could be wrong. They might not endorse Trump this go-round, but their past is typical business conservative.

Wiz Imp

(1,797 posts)
40. From 2022, they gave money to both parties, but the biggest donations were to Republicans
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 08:56 AM
Oct 22
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/does-mcdonald-political-donations-152311021.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHyekDOaY27lYIdJZFXZrfKQm6eo01fCOVvqFZaELkBm6xXubmgvLe55XC0y0aCNHx07_HpXZh7IaWBcu5cLIuflCgK2wdCw_vKjG9q2I7gjLQD2eDlQaM7QubKwVDUVCvyP9Ybe9pqykmwzSJJTP6HHCrKcQS_kpcgJGCexu6D_

Who Does McDonald’s Give Political Donations To?
McDonald’s-affiliated Political Donations (Over $10,000) in 2022

National Republican Senatorial Committee: $44,719.

Oklahoma Republican candidate Kevin Hern: $38,650.

National Republican Congressional Committee: $35,542.

Republican National Committee: $32,896.

Illinois Republican candidate Rodney Davis: $23,050.

Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee: $16,924.

Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee: $16,136.

North Carolina Republican candidate Chuck Edwards: $14,300.

California Republican candidate Kevin McCarthy: $10,974.

North Carolina Republican candidate Virginia Foxx: $10,250.

The bulk of these contributions to congressional and federal candidates went to Republicans — 67% of the total amount of dollars, per OpenSecrets.

sl8

(16,245 posts)
44. Looks like the numbers have shifted a bit since 2022:
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 10:02 AM
Oct 22

Last edited Tue Oct 22, 2024, 10:36 AM - Edit history (1)

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/mcdonald-s-corp/recipients?id=D000000373

2024, All Federal Candidates: 56.3% R, 46.7% D 43.7% D

Interestingly, the individual donations favor Harris over Trump by quite a bit.

Wiz Imp

(1,797 posts)
45. Interesting. I just pulled the first numbers I found.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 10:16 AM
Oct 22

Of course most major corporations hedge their bets by giving to both parties, but McDonalds does have a history of giving more to Republicans (even if the margin is a bit smaller this year).

Conjuay

(2,105 posts)
50. Why?
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 11:09 AM
Oct 22

They lost me once they started over cooking the burgers.
Hamburgers cooked to 160F (or whatever the new guideline is) is suitable for roofing shingles and not much else.

LeftInTX

(29,998 posts)
53. Because they are helping elect Trump!
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 11:28 AM
Oct 22

Fake it. Tell them you will no longer patronize them because they are endorsing Trump.

It has nothing to do with their food.

Aussie105

(6,256 posts)
32. Fast food fries served by McTrump?
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 12:49 AM
Oct 22

Not want!

Fast food fries generally aren't cooked right - just thrown frozen into too hot oil and taken out once they attain some color.
Let it cool and it goes limp, and the inside has a definite not cooked appearance and taste.

There are ways to do fries right, and that isn't it!

dlk

(12,365 posts)
35. McDonald's "golden" image is permanently tarnished
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 07:28 AM
Oct 22

Trump’s publicity stunt was a big middle finger to McDonald’s workers and American workers everywhere. He didn’t wear gloves and perhaps by design, selected a location that has failed health inspections.

Of course, what can be expected from a scab?

Novara

(6,115 posts)
36. Think of it this way: Kamala Harris is so far in his head that he's ruining an American institution with his insecurity
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 07:36 AM
Oct 22

Like it or not, McDonald's is an American institution. And Kamala Harris is so far in his head he has to do this utterly ridiculous stunt because she is living rent-free in his stupid head.

I read they actually rehearsed driving cars through the drive-through. Rehearsed! This is nothing more than a pathetic stunt by an insecure, weak, little man who is absolutely obsessed that 40 years ago, Kamala Harris worked her way through school at a fucking fast food restaurant.

How pathetic is that?

BumRushDaShow

(142,277 posts)
37. "How pathetic is that?"
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 07:53 AM
Oct 22

It's like Ryan's "stunt-washing" already clean posts at a charity's soup kitchen!!

bmichaelh

(600 posts)
38. When will people learn
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 07:57 AM
Oct 22

When will people learn.

You can never assume that Trump will ever act in good faith.

He will take any situation and try to make it always about him.

The malignant narcissist.

We have so many enablers of that "most notable coward, an infinite
and endless liar, an hourly promise-breaker, the owner
of no one good quality."

--Shakespeare, All’s Well That Ends Well 3.6.9-11

Wiz Imp

(1,797 posts)
41. According to this article, Corporate was definitely aware and approved of the visit
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 09:05 AM
Oct 22
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/10/21/mcdonalds-agreed-to-trump-event-but-says-it-isnt-endorsing-a-presidential-candidate/

McDonald’s agreed to Trump event but says it isn’t endorsing a presidential candidate

McDonald’s Corp. agreed to host former President Donald Trump at a Pennsylvania store over the weekend but said it isn’t endorsing a candidate in the U.S. presidential race.

Trump staffed the fry station at a McDonald’s in suburban Philadelphia on Sunday before answering questions through the drive-thru window. The restaurant was closed to the public for the Republican nominee’s visit.

In a message to employees obtained Monday by The Associated Press, McDonald’s said the owner-operator of the location, Derek Giacomantonio, reached out after he learned of Trump’s desire to visit a Pennsylvania restaurant. McDonald’s agreed to the event.

Upon learning of the former president’s request, we approached it through the lens of one of our core values: we open our doors to everyone,” the company said. “McDonald’s does not endorse candidates for elected office and that remains true in this race for the next president. We are not red or blue – we are golden.”


The Bloomberg article conveniently left out the part about Corporate knowing and approving.

BumRushDaShow

(142,277 posts)
42. "The Bloomberg article conveniently left out the part about Corporate knowing and approving. "
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 09:45 AM
Oct 22

?????

From the Bloomberg article near the bottom (and sorry for not putting a gift link there because Bloomberg only gives me 5 per month and due to copyright/TOS I obviously can't copy/paste the entire article into a LBN OP)

Open to ‘Everyone’

“Upon learning of the former president’s request, we approached it through the lens of our core values: we open our doors to everyone,” McDonald’s said in its message.

McDonald’s said franchisees — who independently own and operate more than 95% of US locations — have also invited Harris and her running mate Tim Walz for a visit.


Wiz Imp

(1,797 posts)
43. That sentence was not in the posted portion of the article and as you know, the whole article was not posted.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 09:53 AM
Oct 22

That line was buried at the end of the article. Meanwhile, the Chicago Tribune article mentioned corporate's knowledge in the headline of the article.

BumRushDaShow

(142,277 posts)
46. "That sentence was not in the posted portion of the article and as you know, the whole article was not posted."
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 10:18 AM
Oct 22

That is why a LINK is provided for readers to click on to read the WHOLE article if they choose to.

It is a copyright violation to post the entire article.

Legal/Administrative

Respect copyrights
Excerpts from copyrighted sources must be no more than four paragraphs and include a link to the source. See our DMCA Copyright Policy for more information.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice


And you do know that the Chicago Tribune is a RW-paper, right?

You can lead a horse to water but can't make them drink.

Wiz Imp

(1,797 posts)
47. I'm not sure what your point is
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 10:30 AM
Oct 22

Yeah, I know you can't post a complete article. The link posted required you enter a credit card to view the entire article - most people are not going to do that.

As for the fact that the Chicago Tribune is a right wing paper - so what? They were willing to tell the public that McDonald's corporate approved the Trump stunt (without even reading the article).

BumRushDaShow

(142,277 posts)
48. I don't know what your point is either
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 10:36 AM
Oct 22

other than claiming the Bloomberg article didn't mention anything about the McDonald's position. I.e., you wrote this -

The Bloomberg article conveniently left out the part about Corporate knowing and approving.


which is false and I gave you the portion of Bloomberg's article that was written based on the McDonald's "message" about this issue.

As for the fact that the Chicago Tribune is a right wing paper - so what? They were willing to tell the public that McDonald's corporate approved the Trump stunt (without even reading the article).


There are multiple articles out there with all kinds of "headlines" that have reported on this and the story will probably have a few more days "with legs" before it fades away. But that doesn't negate the fact that what you wrote was incorrect.

Wiz Imp

(1,797 posts)
49. Oh boy. You seem to have a pathological need to be right and tell other people they are wrong.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 10:56 AM
Oct 22

The point should have been obvious (and I think it was to most people). The original post included a link to the Bloomberg article but left open the question of whether McDonald's corporate knew and approved of the stunt. Numerous people responded speculating whether corporate knew or not. Multiple people assumed they did not. So I posted the article to make it clear that they knew and that would answer those persons' questions. I just made the reference to the Bloomberg article because the portion that could be read by the vast majority of people did not contain any reference to corporate knowledge. I thought it was obvious that what I was saying is that the Bloomberg article didn't mention it in such a way that many people would see it. The fact that they did mention it at the very end of the article may have made me technically wrong but anybody seeing just this post would never know that. If somebody else had made my same exact post, I wouldn't care that the reference to Bloomberg was technically incorrect. I would have appreciated that somebody posted a link to a different article which made the full story clear right up front.

BumRushDaShow

(142,277 posts)
56. To reply
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 11:44 AM
Oct 22
Oh boy. You seem to have a pathological need to be right and tell other people they are wrong.


I don't like the spread of misinformation on DU.

The point should have been obvious (and I think it was to most people). The original post included a link to the Bloomberg article but left open the question of whether McDonald's corporate knew and approved of the stunt. Numerous people responded speculating whether corporate knew or not. Multiple people assumed they did not. So I posted the article to make it clear that they knew and that would answer those persons' questions.


No the "point" ended up being an incorrect, extraneous remark.

Posting other articles with more or different info is just fine. But making an incorrect assertion about the article posted in the OP doesn't fly.

I just made the reference to the Bloomberg article because the portion that could be read by the vast majority of people did not contain any reference to corporate knowledge.


Links to articles for reading the whole thing, are your friend. Sometimes people have to move beyond "the headline". That is what all the fuss about "click-bait" often references, particularly if there isn't that much substance on the other side of the click. However giving it a look might offer more substance beyond the headlne.

I thought it was obvious that what I was saying is that the Bloomberg article didn't mention it in such a way that many people would see it.


That's an incredible goal post move from a post that claimed the article had no such mention at all.

The fact that they did mention it at the very end of the article may have made me technically wrong but anybody seeing just this post would never know that. If somebody else had made my same exact post, I wouldn't care that the reference to Bloomberg was technically incorrect. I would have appreciated that somebody posted a link to a different article which made the full story clear right up front.


Simply doing a reply with a link to any other articles is a big help for readers to get different takes and perspectives, and sometimes even "exclusive" insights. But falsely characterizing or mischaracterizing the OP linked article is NOT helpful at all.

Wiz Imp

(1,797 posts)
57. Whatever. You have fun with your indignant self righteous anger
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 12:00 PM
Oct 22

I never imagined somebody could ever get so angry about something so petty.

Wiz Imp

(1,797 posts)
58. And technically, the Bloomberg article was misinformation
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 12:15 PM
Oct 22

they said Trump "worked the drive-thru". That is categorically false. First of all the restaurant was closed so there were no real drive thru customers. Second of all, he didn't take orders (an essential part of "working the drive thru&quot . All he did was hand bags with random food items he chose to place in them to fake customers through the drive thru window (he didn't have to make sure the specific items ordered were placed in the bag - another essential part of "working the drive thru&quot . That is not "working the drive thru". Funny how you didn't get bent out of shape over that. (Of course, I am sure you will have a perfectly "valid" reason why I am wrong yet again)

BumRushDaShow

(142,277 posts)
59. Reading is fundamental
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 12:42 PM
Oct 22
And technically, the Bloomberg article was misinformation

they said Trump "worked the drive-thru". That is categorically false.


I suppose you missed the link the article included to the 45 campaign for where they got that information?

I'll post what that paragraph says with the link -

The burger chain has been dragged into the election conversation in part because candidate Kamala Harris has said she worked at the chain] when she was a student. Trump’s visit — in which he cooked food, bagged fries and worked the drive-thru, according to his campaign — added more fuel to the discussion.


Here is the link under the "according to his campaign" phrase that you missed - https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/b971ff07-cb51-48e8-9ab5-cb9c120791b0

The other link in that paragraph that is part of the phrase (Kamala Harris has said) "she worked at the chain" also has a link to her "X" post that doesn't render correctly on DU with the hyperlinking of phrases but goes to this -




Kamala Harris
@KamalaHarris
·
Follow
I worked at @McDonalds when I was a student, doing french fries and ice cream. There wasn't a family relying on me to pay the bills — but that's the reality for too many workers today. Proud to stand with @SEIU today for livable wages and a safe working environment.
7:28 PM · Jun 14, 2019


First of all the restaurant was closed so there were no real drive thru customers. Second of all, he didn't take orders (an essential part of "working the drive thru" . All he did was hand bags with random food items he chose to place in them to fake customers through the drive thru window (he didn't have to make sure the specific items ordered were placed in the bag - another essential part of "working the drive thru" . That is not "working the drive thru". Funny how you didn't get bent out of shape over that. (Of course, I am sure you will have a perfectly "valid" reason why I am wrong yet again)


Again, reading is fundamental and adding extra that was not in the article doesn't quite help your case.

Including that info with links would have been better without ridiculous falsehoods about the intent of the OP article beyond simply "reporting" what they were told, without any desire to characterize it - at least in this particular article.

Wiz Imp

(1,797 posts)
60. Got it. Reporting easily disproven information without fact checking just because the Trump campaign said it is A-OK.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 12:56 PM
Oct 22

BumRushDaShow

(142,277 posts)
61. You have again moved the goal posts
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 01:08 PM
Oct 22

"Reporting" does not equal "Commentary" nor does "reporting what was known at that time" (yesterday) = "reporting what is known" or discovered later, including the next day.

But you knew that yet choose to keep at the foolishness.

Wiz Imp

(1,797 posts)
62. Statements from the Trump campaign published in that article were known to be false before the article was
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 01:21 PM
Oct 22

published. Bloomberg chose to include them without including a fact check anyway. You think that's perfectly fine. Good for you.

BumRushDaShow

(142,277 posts)
63. Again - they merely reported "according to"
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 01:30 PM
Oct 22

not what they guessed about.

It's like someone, say in Ukraine, who "reports that" it snowed yesterday, so YESTERDAY a news outlet publishes that "report". But then the following day, more info comes out to say that it "wasn't 'snow' but 'sleet'".

Yet you would argue that the report was intentionally wrong yesterday despite it being from yesterday. The date and publication time is listed.

It's what happens when you have no argument at all. One goes on with obfuscating with a bunch of nonsense.

Wiz Imp

(1,797 posts)
64. Wow. You really don't get it.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 01:57 PM
Oct 22

Bloomberg published statements from the Trump campaign that they knew were lies when they published them. It was intentionally wrong yesterday. You seem to think that the facts only came to light today. That is nonsense, the facts were already known on Sunday. They intentionally chose to allow false statements from the Trump campaign to go unchallenged. Just because they attributed it to the campaign, doesn't change the fact that they knew they were lies and printed them anyway. Do you work for Bloomberg? I don't know why you insist on defending the indefensible. It's not just Bloomberg, it's the entire mainstream media that does this shit. Report everything Trump says or the campaign says but never point out when those statements are false (which is 90% of the time).

Congratulations. You're added to the ignore list.

BumRushDaShow

(142,277 posts)
65. Congrats for not reading dates and times!
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 02:03 PM
Oct 22
Wow. You really don't get it.

Bloomberg published statements from the Trump campaign that they knew were lies when they published them. It was intentionally wrong yesterday. You seem to think that the facts only came to light today. That is nonsense, the facts were already known on Sunday. They intentionally chose to allow false statements from the Trump campaign to go unchallenged. Just because they attributed it to the campaign, doesn't change the fact that they knew they were lies and printed them anyway. Do you work for Bloomberg? I don't know why you insist on defending the indefensible. It's not just Bloomberg, it's the entire mainstream media that does this shit. Report everything Trump says or the campaign says but never point out when those statements are false (which is 90% of the time).


PUBLICATION DATE/TIME -

October 21, 2024 at 9:31 AM EDT

Congratulations. You're added to the ignore list.


Hallelujah!

louslobbs

(3,416 posts)
55. And he didn't "staff" anything. The minute
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 11:29 AM
Oct 22

they closed the restaurant, this became nothing more than a set with trump as the lead actor. They even rehearsed the actors (extras) driving through the drive through lol. Just another fraud…..this time, sponsored by The Golden Arches, MagaDonalds.

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