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(109,560 posts) Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:48 PM Oct 25

VP Harris will build 'ferocious dictatorship' if elected, excommunicated archbishop claims

Source: CBS

WASHINGTON (TNND) -- Catholic Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigan issued an open letter to American voters Tuesday which cast doubt on Vice President Kamala Harris's ability to lead the nation if elected president on November 5.

In July, Vigan was banished from the church for refusing to submit to Pope Francis, a crime known as "reserved delict of schism." While the pope has dismissed both candidates as being "against life," Vigan wrote in his letter he supports former President Donald Trump.

"On one side we have candidate Donald J. Trump, who, despite serious problems in his positions - especially in the matter of abortion and assisted procreation - has as his objective the common good and the protection of the fundamental freedoms of citizens," Vigan wrote. "In Donald Trump's America, every Catholic can practice their Faith and educate their children in it without interference from the State."

The archbishop then addressed Harris, who he claimed would lead the nation into a dark place if elected in November.

Read more: https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/vp-harris-will-build-ferocious-dictatorship-if-elected-excommunicated-archbishop-claims-carlo-maria-vigano-catholic-vatican-city-election-donald-trump-kamala-harris-tim-walz-jd-vance-november-elect

If you hear anywhere that an Archbishop of the Catholic church has endorsed Trump -- it's a lie. While he (inexplicably) retains the title, he has officially excommunicated from the Church last summer.

I'm posting this here because Catholics and others may not realize he has been excommunicated and his words do not come from the Catholic Church.. Years ago, under Pope Benedict, he was in the US as a representative of the Vatican.

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Kamala isn't the only one Vigano has been slurring. He's also viciously attacked Pope Francis, which is part of why he was excommunicated.

Such drastic steps are exceedingly rare in the church and illustrated the extent to which Viganò — the Vatican’s former ambassador to the United States — is perceived to have crossed a line. He has called on the pope to resign and excoriated him in harsh terms, including calling him “a servant of Satan.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/07/05/vigano-excommunicated-schism-pope-francis/

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VP Harris will build 'ferocious dictatorship' if elected, excommunicated archbishop claims (Original Post) pnwmom Oct 25 OP

Oh, a Bannon Catholic. no_hypocrisy Oct 25 #1

The World's largest pedophile organization should have been dismantled long ago. NoMoreRepugs Oct 25 #2

Excommunicated priest says what? ramedy Oct 25 #3

I tend to ignore archbishops who have been fired for life by the pope Bluejeans Oct 25 #4

Welcome to DU! Yes, I ignore them too, but in this case a friend pnwmom Oct 25 #8

Not sure there any many people whose opinions care about less than this guy. Bleacher Creature Oct 25 #5

Crazy religious ahole says what now? mwb970 Oct 25 #6

pedophile priests are not a great look for trump endorsements. ZonkerHarris Oct 25 #7

Report this fascist supporter to the DOJ/FEC. This is smearing/slandering the candidate to interfere with the election. onetexan Oct 25 #9

An attack by an ex-communicated archbishop is a feather Harris's hat. Martin68 Oct 25 #10

"While he (inexplicably) retains the title, he has officially excommunicated from the Church last summer." Ray Bruns Oct 25 #11

Why would anybody print this guy's opinion?? Ever? mpcamb Oct 25 #12

Somebody please cut this guy's mike - NOW! FakeNoose Oct 25 #13

We can't cut off the mic he has through countless religious sources -- but we should be ready to tell pnwmom Oct 25 #14

Dictatorship? It takes one to know one, you hypocrites! tornado34jh Oct 25 #15

Another white skinned male very afraid of a very intelligent dark skin female. republianmushroom Oct 25 #16

no_hypocrisy

(48,781 posts)

1. Oh, a Bannon Catholic.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:50 PM

Oct 25

Figures.

NoMoreRepugs

(10,513 posts)

2. The World's largest pedophile organization should have been dismantled long ago.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:51 PM

Oct 25

ramedy

(126 posts)

3. Excommunicated priest says what?

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:05 PM

Oct 25

Support the rapist?

I’m shocked. 🙄

Bluejeans

(89 posts)

4. I tend to ignore archbishops who have been fired for life by the pope

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:26 PM

Oct 25

As a practicing Catholic, I tend to ignore archbishops who have been fired for life by the pope.

pnwmom

(109,560 posts)

8. Welcome to DU! Yes, I ignore them too, but in this case a friend

Reply to Bluejeans (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:45 PM

Oct 25

asked me about this letter, and I realized not every Catholic , much less every Christian, knows that Vigano -- who used to be the Vatican's representative to the US -- does not speak for the Catholic Church.

Bleacher Creature

(11,434 posts)

5. Not sure there any many people whose opinions care about less than this guy.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:30 PM

Oct 25

mwb970

(11,701 posts)

6. Crazy religious ahole says what now?

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:30 PM

Oct 25

ZonkerHarris

(25,272 posts)

7. pedophile priests are not a great look for trump endorsements.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:42 PM

Oct 25

onetexan

(13,896 posts)

9. Report this fascist supporter to the DOJ/FEC. This is smearing/slandering the candidate to interfere with the election.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2024, 02:12 PM

Oct 25

Martin68

(24,604 posts)

10. An attack by an ex-communicated archbishop is a feather Harris's hat.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2024, 02:13 PM

Oct 25

Obviously an ex-Catholic MAGAt

Ray Bruns

(4,599 posts)

11. "While he (inexplicably) retains the title, he has officially excommunicated from the Church last summer."

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2024, 02:15 PM

Oct 25

I was wondering the same thing. If you’re excommunicated, you’re no longer an archbishop. Right?

mpcamb

(2,969 posts)

12. Why would anybody print this guy's opinion?? Ever?

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2024, 02:23 PM

Oct 25

FakeNoose

(35,666 posts)

13. Somebody please cut this guy's mike - NOW!

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2024, 02:27 PM

Oct 25

We don't need to amplify the weirdos out there. And that's what he is ... a weirdo.

pnwmom

(109,560 posts)

14. We can't cut off the mic he has through countless religious sources -- but we should be ready to tell

Reply to FakeNoose (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 25, 2024, 04:53 PM

Oct 25

anyone who asks us -- as a friend asked me today -- that he does NOT speak for the Catholic Church because he's been excommunicated.

tornado34jh

(1,293 posts)

15. Dictatorship? It takes one to know one, you hypocrites!

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2024, 05:02 PM

Oct 25

Forget the sex abuse allegations and hypocritical morality for a minute. You don't need a masters/doctorate in history to know how much of a theocratic dictatorship the Catholic Church was for centuries in Europe. It's why it was called the Dark Ages for a reason. Trust me, I have been to Europe and visited predominately Catholic countries in my time there, visiting many cathedrals, museums of history, and so forth. Of course they will not admit that they were a dictatorship during those times. But to say that Kamala Harris will probably lead to a dictatorship is the height of hypocrisy, especially given their recent allegations. But this archbishop, like many religious who support Trump, have no right to talk about morality and dictatorship, especially the former. Trump, who has done adultery, married multiple times and has being screwing around with a pornographic star, is the last person I would consider moral, especially when according to your religion, it specifically states against that, but you are willing to sweep it under the rug. So really they need to shut up.

republianmushroom

(17,629 posts)

16. Another white skinned male very afraid of a very intelligent dark skin female.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2024, 05:24 PM

Oct 25

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