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BumRushDaShow

(147,297 posts)
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 07:43 PM Oct 2024

Texas man punched an election worker who told him to remove Trump hat at voting site, police say

Source: AP

Updated 6:46 PM EDT, October 25, 2024


A Texas man who wore a hat supporting former President Donald Trump punched an election worker who told him that wearing items endorsing a candidate are prohibited at voting sites, a sheriff said Friday.

The election worker, identified as a 69-year-old man, was treated at the scene Thursday and returned to his election post at a San Antonio library on Friday, officials said. The suspect was arrested on felony charges of assaulting an elderly person and could face additional charges, Bexar County Sheriff Javier Salazar said.

The alleged assault happened at the end of the first week of early voting in Texas, where long lines have stretched outside some polling places. Both the sheriff and county elections administrator urged voters to stay calm and patient during sometimes long waits to vote during what they described as a contentious election. “Thankfully there was nothing life-threatening about what occurred, but it was still an ugly incident,” Salazar said.

The suspect, identified as Jesse Lutzenberger, remained in jail Friday evening, according to Bexar County records. Jail records did not list an attorney and a phone number for Lutzenberger’s home could not immediately be found Friday.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/2024-election-worker-assaulted-texas-voting-8b601acad1bb0d3cdb780d8e6dc2cb69

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Texas man punched an election worker who told him to remove Trump hat at voting site, police say (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 OP
TY Kick for "Felony Charges"! Cha Oct 2024 #1
Same orangecrush Oct 2024 #15
They are not just weird, they are raving mad. Dave Bowman Oct 2024 #2
How long until TFG congratulates Lutzenberger? sakabatou Oct 2024 #3
They might even meet in person! orangecrush Oct 2024 #18
Don't plea this fucker down Mysterian Oct 2024 #4
DEFINITELY take away his damn guns!!! calimary Oct 2024 #12
How do you know he has firearms? JohnnyRingo Oct 2024 #31
Wouldn't surprise me if he slept with a few of 'em. calimary Oct 2024 #48
This is who they are birdographer Oct 2024 #5
I mean they were always there Dem4life1234 Oct 2024 #44
Sounds like a typical Trump supporter. He's going to be disappointed when Trump doesn't pay his legal fees. surfered Oct 2024 #6
If he sits in jail, he can't vote ... so there's that FakeNoose Oct 2024 #7
Good one surfered Oct 2024 #8
He already early voted before he punched election worker. LisaL Oct 2024 #14
Then what was he doing there? JohnnyRingo Oct 2024 #32
He put his hat back on after he voted, but still in LeftInTX Oct 2024 #59
He can likely vote absentee. Ms. Toad Oct 2024 #53
He had already voted and it's too late to order absentee. LeftInTX Oct 2024 #60
I hadn't researched the details for this case. Ms. Toad Oct 2024 #62
should be prosecuted et tu Oct 2024 #9
If i could, i would give the hateful vioent thug 15 years in the slammer Trueblue1968 Oct 2024 #27
I hope the election worker files a civil suit for pain and suffering Beachnutt Oct 2024 #10
One of these days a MAGAT asshole is going to punch the wrong person hadEnuf Oct 2024 #11
They are just like their prime Mentor DENVERPOPS Oct 2024 #13
Or even children Dem4life1234 Oct 2024 #46
They are stupid but yet hip enough to know who to try it with! Dem4life1234 Oct 2024 #45
Exactly DENVERPOPS Oct 2024 #47
Likely to be pardoned moniss Oct 2024 #16
Good, let him sit in jail. Bluethroughu Oct 2024 #17
The MAGA asswipes think the rules don't apply to them. iluvtennis Oct 2024 #19
They think they can act just like Trump liberalmediaaddict Oct 2024 #22
Kick dalton99a Oct 2024 #20
Part of his sentence should be Sucha NastyWoman Oct 2024 #24
A big NO on that. Ms. Toad Oct 2024 #54
I see they made him take his hat off. hahaha JohnnyRingo Oct 2024 #34
Gee, and he looks so smart too. mwb970 Oct 2024 #35
Damn, in Abbott's Texas I thought they'd give you the keys to the state for that. Orrex Oct 2024 #21
Is he not allowed to wear political garb? idahoblue Oct 2024 #23
It is not legal in Texas. LudwigPastorius Oct 2024 #25
I did not know this and once had a dem button on my blouse. It was raining and the person just told me to close my efhmc Oct 2024 #29
He was told to remove his hat. LeftInTX Oct 2024 #50
Ohio has the same rules. No candidates names on your person Boomerproud Oct 2024 #26
In 21 states, no. markodochartaigh Oct 2024 #28
Yes, it is the law in several states PortTack Oct 2024 #37
Bill jcboon Oct 2024 #56
Im shocked that Idaho DiverDave Oct 2024 #57
I don't know what y'all do in Idaho, but this is ILLEGAL in Texas TBF Oct 2024 #61
Not legal in Kansas either. No signs within 250 feet of a polling place Bengus81 Oct 2024 #64
Beware of anyone wearing a maga hat in public. Klarkashton Oct 2024 #30
Any story that starts with "A Texas man..." is likely to be disgusting. mwb970 Oct 2024 #33
And there it is: The inevitable shit-canning of the entire state of Texas. Paladin Oct 2024 #40
Ahh, don't feel bad. OldBaldy1701E Oct 2024 #41
I don't feel bad. I feel superior. Paladin Oct 2024 #42
This is just how stupid maggots are. It's called electioneering and has been the law for decades. PortTack Oct 2024 #36
Some scum wearing a maga hat walked out of the polling place in west palm beach when we voted yesterday bedazzled Oct 2024 #38
MAGAts believe what TSF tells them: no_hypocrisy Oct 2024 #39
Maggots are so violent Dem4life1234 Oct 2024 #43
That is the problem. The Grand Illuminist Oct 2024 #63
OH! His beloved MAGA hat!! Mysterian Oct 2024 #49
The lunatic is smirking for his Bexar County Jail mugshot C0RI0LANUS Oct 2024 #51
Hope this schmuck doesn't get a light jail sentence. ificandream Oct 2024 #52
And this is why Dem observers are trained Ms. Toad Oct 2024 #55
Gutless wonder stollen Oct 2024 #58

birdographer

(2,713 posts)
5. This is who they are
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 08:19 PM
Oct 2024

and many are so proud of it. I'm ashamed of them and for them. When did they break, and what broke them?

Dem4life1234

(2,448 posts)
44. I mean they were always there
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 10:09 AM
Oct 2024

These are the same ones pouring ketchup on students protesting in lunch counters.

They were always there.

surfered

(4,990 posts)
6. Sounds like a typical Trump supporter. He's going to be disappointed when Trump doesn't pay his legal fees.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 08:29 PM
Oct 2024

Just like all those Jan 6th insurrectionists

FakeNoose

(36,595 posts)
7. If he sits in jail, he can't vote ... so there's that
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 08:44 PM
Oct 2024

With any luck, he'll still be in jail when Chump is declared the loser.

JohnnyRingo

(19,654 posts)
32. Then what was he doing there?
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 01:16 AM
Oct 2024

Did he just go to the precinct to call someone out?
Then additional charges should indeed be filed and the sentencing judge should be aware of it.

Ms. Toad

(35,923 posts)
53. He can likely vote absentee.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 12:43 PM
Oct 2024

Being confined to jail. But otherwise eligible is expressly listed as a reason for absentee voting in Texas

Ms. Toad

(35,923 posts)
62. I hadn't researched the details for this case.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:31 PM
Oct 2024

Just responding to the suggestion that being in jail would prevent him (or anyone) from voting in Texas.

As to deadlines, it isn't applicable here - but most states have an emergency process for events that happen after the regular absentee ballot deadline has passed, but before election day. In Texas, it is possible to request an emergency absentee ballot as late as 5:00 PM the day of election day. It isn't applicable here because it applies to a new personal illness or disability (day of) or the death of a relative (deadline - day before the election). In Texas, at least, imprisonment after the deadline passes isn't a basis for an emergency absentee ballot.

Just dropping the information here, in case anyone ends up in a situation where they are eligible for an emergency ballot after the regular deadline has passed. (Some form of emergency absentee ballot is available in every state but Texas.)

Beachnutt

(8,394 posts)
10. I hope the election worker files a civil suit for pain and suffering
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 09:15 PM
Oct 2024

and any medical bills that he may incur as a result of being assaulted.

hadEnuf

(2,962 posts)
11. One of these days a MAGAT asshole is going to punch the wrong person
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 09:30 PM
Oct 2024

and they are going to get dropped.

DENVERPOPS

(10,826 posts)
13. They are just like their prime Mentor
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 09:40 PM
Oct 2024

A BULLY ..........and they never pick on someone who would be an even match.....it is more reinforcing to their gross masculine insecurities to pick on a woman, small man, or elderly person.

Dem4life1234

(2,448 posts)
45. They are stupid but yet hip enough to know who to try it with!
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 10:11 AM
Oct 2024

I would love to see more articles posted about someone who stood their ground against one of these thugs, but news is always being posted about them hurting someone and never followup with what happened to the maggot.

Where are the stories of people fighting back? Or maybe it's just these thugs know who to attack and prey on the weaker? Why didn't the crowd go in on him after attacking that worker? Best believe if this happened in Colombia with the crowd I swear to God!

DENVERPOPS

(10,826 posts)
47. Exactly
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 11:04 AM
Oct 2024

So I am standing near the end of a long line at Starbucks with my friend. He has continued training for over 20 years in five different martial arts. He is 5'6" and about 140 lbs. A big guy at the front of the line is giving crap to the counter person, mostly because she was a minority. My friend, hands in pockets steps out of line and just stares at him. The guy comes up to my friend, and literally gets right in his face. He says: You got something to say????? My friend, hands still in his pockets, un-intimidated and smiling says:
You got a couple of friends you want to bring?????? I guess, like you said, the bullies seem to have an uncanny ability to know who to mess with and who not to mess with......LOL the guy just walked off. Everyone in the line was laughing at him being called out......

moniss

(6,504 posts)
16. Likely to be pardoned
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 09:53 PM
Oct 2024

by Abbott and the elderly man will be charged with harassment by Paxton. That's how upside down Texas is.

Bluethroughu

(6,865 posts)
17. Good, let him sit in jail.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 09:53 PM
Oct 2024

Punched an elderly person, for asking to remove election material...must be first time voter.

I hope he gets a charge for interfering in an election....I'm sure the lines had to wait while this was being investigated, and scared everyone.

liberalmediaaddict

(982 posts)
22. They think they can act just like Trump
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 10:28 PM
Oct 2024

And never be held accountable for bad behavior. Only Trump can get away with committing crimes.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,973 posts)
24. Part of his sentence should be
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:31 PM
Oct 2024

Requirement to work every day as an election clerk fo the full voting period.

From opening to closing, as many election workers do.

Ms. Toad

(35,923 posts)
54. A big NO on that.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 12:45 PM
Oct 2024

You really want someone like that making decisions about who is eligible to cast a vote?

idahoblue

(412 posts)
23. Is he not allowed to wear political garb?
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:02 PM
Oct 2024

I think that is 1st amendment rights. Not sticking up for a trumpet but it is important to pick the right fight. In Idaho, voters can wear their tshirts, hats and buttons. However, they are required to cast their vote then leave, loitering with political messages is not allowed.
The jerk should be charged with felony assault, it is not his right to attack workers who are just doing their job.

LudwigPastorius

(11,652 posts)
25. It is not legal in Texas.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:36 PM
Oct 2024

It is considered electioneering, and the decisions on what clothing or button messages constitute electioneering is up to the local voting clerks and election judges.

efhmc

(15,154 posts)
29. I did not know this and once had a dem button on my blouse. It was raining and the person just told me to close my
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 12:17 AM
Oct 2024

rain coat and I did and went on to vote.

Boomerproud

(8,602 posts)
26. Ohio has the same rules. No candidates names on your person
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:37 PM
Oct 2024

It's to prevent this kind of thing from happening.

jcboon

(323 posts)
56. Bill
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 01:14 PM
Oct 2024

Some states don't allow people to wear political paraphernalia inside the polling area. Virginia allows people to where it when they come in to vote, but they are not allowed to stay inside the polling area after doing so.

DiverDave

(5,041 posts)
57. Im shocked that Idaho
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:28 PM
Oct 2024

Doesn't allow loitering after voting.
Only for repuklicans though.

TBF

(35,010 posts)
61. I don't know what y'all do in Idaho, but this is ILLEGAL in Texas
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:25 PM
Oct 2024

could've charged him w/a misdemeanor just for wearing the hat, but he punched an elderly poll worker. Now he's being charged with a 3rd degree felony. Very fine people, indeed.

Here is the legal info -- https://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/laws/advisory2023-01.shtml

Bengus81

(7,994 posts)
64. Not legal in Kansas either. No signs within 250 feet of a polling place
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 04:53 PM
Oct 2024

and no political "advertising" at a voting location. Hats,shirts,pants etc are NOT allowed. They were turning some Trump humpers away a week or so ago.

mwb970

(11,744 posts)
33. Any story that starts with "A Texas man..." is likely to be disgusting.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 01:18 AM
Oct 2024

And sure enough. I have a very bad impression of Texas as a backwards MAGA state.

Paladin

(29,405 posts)
40. And there it is: The inevitable shit-canning of the entire state of Texas.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 05:13 AM
Oct 2024

Thanks for nothing.

OldBaldy1701E

(7,238 posts)
41. Ahh, don't feel bad.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 06:25 AM
Oct 2024

According to some of the reasoning I have seen on this very site, because I am a southerner, I am ignorant, unable to be progressive and liberal, and a gun humper.

PortTack

(35,259 posts)
36. This is just how stupid maggots are. It's called electioneering and has been the law for decades.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 01:30 AM
Oct 2024

They think they are victims …yes, victims of a country and brave ppl that are willing to stand up for the rule of law.

bedazzled

(1,863 posts)
38. Some scum wearing a maga hat walked out of the polling place in west palm beach when we voted yesterday
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 03:14 AM
Oct 2024

Chest puffed out. Looking like he was so proud. No metal detectors so I guess the poll workers were afraid he would shoot them. Probably the greatest accomplishment of his rancid life.

no_hypocrisy

(50,206 posts)
39. MAGAts believe what TSF tells them:
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 04:08 AM
Oct 2024

that they're the ones despised, not him.

In instances like this, it's multi-layered: first, they don't like being told what to do; next, they can't proselytize for their Savior; next, if they can't proselytize, then you're attacking their Savior; and finally, an attack on their Savior is a personal attack on them. It's sort of political evangelism.

Dem4life1234

(2,448 posts)
43. Maggots are so violent
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 10:05 AM
Oct 2024

And yes in some warped world they think they are the victims and everyone else must cater to them.

Extremely unlikable creatures.

And I think the problem in this country, there is not a strong left presence to check their asses, so they think they can get away with it. They know exactly who to try it with.

C0RI0LANUS

(2,957 posts)
51. The lunatic is smirking for his Bexar County Jail mugshot
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 12:15 PM
Oct 2024

(Photo: Bexar County Sheriff's Dept)

Ms. Toad

(35,923 posts)
55. And this is why Dem observers are trained
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 12:47 PM
Oct 2024

Not to worry about election workers who let electioneering great be worn. To risky to push it with folks who decline to remove it on the first request.

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