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(142,394 posts) Mon Oct 28, 2024, 04:14 PM Oct 28

Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes: 'We want to make America hate again'

Source: The Guardian

Mon 28 Oct 2024 14.01 EDT
Last modified on Mon 28 Oct 2024 15.36 EDT

The founder of the Proud Boys, the far-right group that played a major role in the January 6 riot at the US Capitol and was memorably instructed by Donald Trump to “stand back and stand by”, has told the makers of a Trump documentary: “We want to make America hate again.”

Gavin McInnes, the UK-born British Canadian citizen who co-founded Vice magazine and was influential in the New York hipster scene of the early 2000s before becoming a far-right militia figure, also claimed to the BBC that his group wasn’t responsible for what happened that day.

“It was you,” he told the makers of the documentary, which has aired on the BBC’s Panorama strand. “If anyone should apologise … it should be the corrupt leftwing media, and I’ll accept your apology now if you want to do it.”

The program – Trump: A Second Chance? – talks to ardent Trump supporters about their enduring support for the New York property developer and reality TV show figure who faced two impeachment inquiries during four years in office and has been indicted in four separate criminal cases since, including being found guilty of 34 felony counts.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/28/proud-boys-gavin-mcinnes-trump-documentary

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Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes: 'We want to make America hate again' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 28 OP

I'm pretty sure we all hate Gavin McInnes FakeNoose Oct 28 #1

10 years ago, there were several DUers defending a racist article he wrote muriel_volestrangler Oct 28 #3

OK but maybe folks didn't realize how evil the Proud Boys would turn out to be FakeNoose Oct 28 #4

He was a co-founder of Vice magazine, so he was well-known muriel_volestrangler Oct 28 #6

G.O.P. scumbags do not deserve America BoRaGard Oct 28 #2

That's Trump's message to a T iemanja Oct 28 #5

Why can't the government deport that guy for stochastic terrorism? kimbutgar Oct 28 #7

I don't get why we just don't say "inciting terrorism." thebigidea Oct 28 #8

I just take for granted that readers here on DU are educated enough to know the stochastic terrorism definition kimbutgar Oct 28 #9

With all the talk from the R's about deportation, slightlv Oct 28 #13

Rush Limbaugh beat you to it mdbl Oct 28 #10

Not surprised, since they're entirely built upon hate sakabatou Oct 28 #11

"We want to make America hate again." Whut..? Grins Oct 28 #12

Gavin McSpineless has made america hate him again. Clouds Passing Oct 28 #14

the "corrupt left-wing media" was responsible for Jan 6? RussBLib Oct 28 #15

Another immigrant who is a terrorist. travelingthrulife Oct 29 #16

FakeNoose

(35,690 posts)

1. I'm pretty sure we all hate Gavin McInnes

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2024, 04:16 PM

Oct 28

muriel_volestrangler

(102,483 posts)

3. 10 years ago, there were several DUers defending a racist article he wrote

Reply to FakeNoose (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 28, 2024, 04:35 PM

Oct 28

on the grounds that it was "satire". It was attacking a left-wing position, but the DUers thought that being satire defended it against anything.

FakeNoose

(35,690 posts)

4. OK but maybe folks didn't realize how evil the Proud Boys would turn out to be

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 28, 2024, 04:46 PM

Oct 28

I don't remember hearing about him until the last few years - since Jan 6th.

muriel_volestrangler

(102,483 posts)

6. He was a co-founder of Vice magazine, so he was well-known

Reply to FakeNoose (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 28, 2024, 04:53 PM

Oct 28

He had been appearing on Fox News (again, as "satire" against left wingers) before the 2014 article. The article appeared in a magazine run by a neo-Nazi supporter (Taki Theodoracopulos). This made no difference to most of the DUers defending him in the thread.

The thread in question: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10024949246

BoRaGard

(2,851 posts)

2. G.O.P. scumbags do not deserve America

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2024, 04:16 PM

Oct 28

iemanja

(54,789 posts)

5. That's Trump's message to a T

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2024, 04:47 PM

Oct 28

kimbutgar

(23,283 posts)

7. Why can't the government deport that guy for stochastic terrorism?

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2024, 06:45 PM

Oct 28

thebigidea

(13,238 posts)

8. I don't get why we just don't say "inciting terrorism."

Reply to kimbutgar (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 28, 2024, 07:17 PM

Oct 28

Nobody needs to waste time explaining "stochastic." If you're explaining, you're losing. I just don't see the advantage of using that vocabulary when simplifying it gets the point across way better.

One thing is for sure, there's no goddamn way Republicans would be using "stochastic" in their messaging if it were the other way around.

kimbutgar

(23,283 posts)

9. I just take for granted that readers here on DU are educated enough to know the stochastic terrorism definition

Reply to thebigidea (Reply #8)

Mon Oct 28, 2024, 07:40 PM

Oct 28

My bad.

slightlv

(4,332 posts)

13. With all the talk from the R's about deportation,

Reply to kimbutgar (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 28, 2024, 10:04 PM

Oct 28

it seems like there's a lot of THEM that could be deported as anti-American terrorists. This guy, Musk, etc... why do we give them money and fame when we could boot their butts back to their home country? Talk about countries sending us their trash!!!

mdbl

(5,488 posts)

10. Rush Limbaugh beat you to it

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2024, 07:50 PM

Oct 28

but you're doing a great job carrying on the hate for him.

sakabatou

(43,064 posts)

11. Not surprised, since they're entirely built upon hate

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2024, 07:55 PM

Oct 28

Grins

(7,889 posts)

12. "We want to make America hate again." Whut..?

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2024, 09:35 PM

Oct 28

“We want to make America hate again,” flies in the face of making America great again. So which is it? And what is it??

“Trump - A Second Chance?” (Love the “?”) says he failed on his first. That he is what he truly fears being: A LOSER!!!!

Clouds Passing

(2,268 posts)

14. Gavin McSpineless has made america hate him again.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2024, 10:46 PM

Oct 28

RussBLib

(9,666 posts)

15. the "corrupt left-wing media" was responsible for Jan 6?

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Oct 28, 2024, 10:50 PM

Oct 28

...how so, shit-for-brains? Did they report too honestly on the non-stolen election? Did they rile up Trump's base by showing too much of Trump on TV? Did the left-wing media urge the dregs of society to show up in DC on Jan 6?

No way I could ever sit thru that "documentary."

https://russblib.blogspot.com

travelingthrulife

(710 posts)

16. Another immigrant who is a terrorist.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2024, 07:52 AM

Oct 29

These people have to take a pledge and agree to no criming when they sign on to become citizens, don't they? Deportation should be an available option.

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