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Lonestarblue

(11,978 posts)
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 08:45 AM Nov 3

How the Christian right is twisting the legacy of an anti-Nazi hero

Source: The Guardian

“In the long run, experts worry that the push to liken American liberal democracy to Nazi Germany could spur political violence, citing past examples of Christian extremists who invoked Bonhoeffer to justify bombing and shooting up abortion clinics.

“We’re worried about post-election political violence, and this is a way of inspiring that,” said Victoria Barnett, a theologian and eminent scholar of Bonhoeffer and the Holocaust who has advocated for a nuanced understanding of Bonhoeffer and has cautioned against depicting Bonhoeffer as a kind of evangelical “Lone Ranger”.

According to documents obtained by the Guardian and Documented, the production and distribution of the movie, called Letter to the American Church, was coordinated by the rightwing group Turning Point USA and American Letter Productions – the film division of Metaxas Media, an entertainment business founded by Eric Metaxas.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/03/eric-metaxas-christian-right-dietrich-bonhoeffer



I have never heard of Metaxas and his effort to paint liberals as Nazis. I wish US media would report on groups like this and include facts instead of misleading claims because it’s really difficult to stay informed about all the right-wing groups trying to undo democracy.
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How the Christian right is twisting the legacy of an anti-Nazi hero (Original Post) Lonestarblue Nov 3 OP
I agree. the mainstream media should expose these people mountain grammy Nov 3 #1
After Kamala is sworn in KS Toronado Nov 3 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author ArkansasDemocrat1 Nov 3 #6
We can only do something if they're doing something illegal. Elessar Zappa Nov 3 #10
Over running the Capitol legal? KS Toronado Nov 3 #11
Zappa's point is well made.... reACTIONary Nov 3 #12
Well I don't believe we should totally ignore what Fascists are doing. KS Toronado Nov 3 #13
Lying is what they do best bmichaelh Nov 3 #3
If any of them actually knew Bonhoeffer.... paleotn Nov 3 #5
Ministry of Truth says up is down, left is right, liberal are nazis... paleotn Nov 3 #4
I think at this point Farmer-Rick Nov 3 #7
I'd heard of Metaxas and his Trump fandom muriel_volestrangler Nov 3 #8
If that book is to be accurate, it has to be all blank pages. n/t valleyrogue Nov 3 #9

mountain grammy

(27,369 posts)
1. I agree. the mainstream media should expose these people
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:11 AM
Nov 3

but in the meaintime there are a few good organization who do. Right Wing Watch is my favorite.. here's a link.

https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch/post/right-wing-round-up-overthrow-the-government

KS Toronado

(19,696 posts)
2. After Kamala is sworn in
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:15 AM
Nov 3

this country could use some type of anti-fascism bureau/department to go after all the Fascists who
seem to be popping up in repug circles before they gain too much power and destroy this country.

Response to KS Toronado (Reply #2)

Elessar Zappa

(16,068 posts)
10. We can only do something if they're doing something illegal.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 04:23 PM
Nov 3

We can’t go after them for speech or anything like that.

reACTIONary

(6,125 posts)
12. Zappa's point is well made....
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 08:28 PM
Nov 3

.... Those who overran the capitol and can be convicted ARE being convicted. For their actual crimes, not their "thought crimes". BTW, the election was not overturned, but there have been legal consequences for those who attempted to. Within the limits and the rules of the law.

KS Toronado

(19,696 posts)
13. Well I don't believe we should totally ignore what Fascists are doing.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:16 PM
Nov 3

Especially if they succeed and we find ourselves with a dictator instead of a President.

bmichaelh

(639 posts)
3. Lying is what they do best
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:43 AM
Nov 3

Eric Metaxas has said that Jesus was white.

Sure nonsense,

He knows nothing of Bonhoeffer either.

Before he returned to Germany, Bonhoeffer taught Sunday School at the Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem.

At the time, Adam Clayton Powell Sr. was the minister of the church.
His son, Adam Clayton Powell Jr., would later become Democratic Congressman from 1945 to 1971.

paleotn

(19,456 posts)
5. If any of them actually knew Bonhoeffer....
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:25 AM
Nov 3

They'd label him one of those mushy, liberal, faux-Xians. It's Bonhoeffer and many others who hold me back from labeling Christianity in general as a hate group.

paleotn

(19,456 posts)
4. Ministry of Truth says up is down, left is right, liberal are nazis...
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:22 AM
Nov 3

When, in fact, for anyone with a functioning brain, the opposite is true. Pretty goddamn disgusting that the religo-fascists would sully the memory of Bonhoeffer. What's next? Coopting The White Rose into their demented, authoritarian bullshit?

As though I couldn't hate those mf'rs more.

Farmer-Rick

(11,532 posts)
7. I think at this point
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:46 AM
Nov 3

We should expect some kind of violence from the right wing fascists after Kamala wins. But hopefully the government is prepared for it and it remains a small group of crazies Trump humpers.

muriel_volestrangler

(102,683 posts)
8. I'd heard of Metaxas and his Trump fandom
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:12 AM
Nov 3

eg

By Michael Gerson
December 7, 2020 at 5:25 p.m. EST
President Trump’s naked attempt to overturn a fair election — with key elements of Joe Biden’s victory vouchsafed by Republican state officials, Republican-appointed judges and even the Justice Department — has driven some Trump evangelicals to the edge of blasphemous lunacy.

“I’d be happy to die in this fight,” radio talk-show host Eric Metaxas assured Trump during a recent interview. “This is a fight for everything. God is with us. Jesus is with us in this fight for liberty.”

Elsewhere Metaxas predicted, “Trump will be inaugurated. For the high crimes of trying to throw a U.S. presidential election, many will go to jail. The swamp will be drained. And Lincoln’s prophetic words of ‘a new birth of freedom’ will be fulfilled. Pray.”

Just to be clear, Metaxas has publicly committed his life to Donald Trump, claimed that at least two members of the Trinity favor a coup against the constitutional order, endorsed the widespread jailing of Trump’s political enemies for imaginary crimes, claimed Abraham Lincoln’s blessing for the advance of authoritarianism and urged Christians to pray to God for the effective death of American democracy. This is seditious and sacrilegious in equal measure.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/prominent-evangelicals-are-directing-trumps-sinking-ship-that-feeds-doubts-about-religion/2020/12/07/5ad8eb0c-38c3-11eb-9276-ae0ca72729be_story.html

Or the ridiculous book he wrote a foreword to:


Back in 2019, he was starting to rave against "Cultural Marxism", and reckoned Bonhoeffer would be against it (fairly hard, since it's not a real thing), but at least allowed that Bonhoeffer wouldn't be a Trump fan. You'd think the Jan 6th attempted coup would have made him less loving of Trump, but by then he was all in on his Trump worship, and can't back out now without admitting to himself both his stupidity and fascism.
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