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swag

(26,523 posts)
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 08:38 AM Nov 11

Donald Trump has promised a closed border and mass deportations. Those affected are taking action now

Source: CNN

. . . The League of United Latin American Citizens, the oldest Hispanic civil rights organization in the United States, is securing money and lawyers to fight what it is already calling potential “vicious, malevolent, cruel and ruthless” immigration policies.

“Make no mistake: Mass deportations will harm the millions targeted by Donald Trump, the families and communities they are part of — and every person in our country. They will rip parents from their children, destroy businesses and livelihoods, and devastate the fabric of our nation and our economy,” said Juan Proaño, CEO of LULAC.

A lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union says its planning for legal challenges is already well advanced.

“We have been preparing for a second Trump term for nearly a year, with a focus on the most draconian possible policies, including the threat to use the military for deportation, which is flatly illegal,” said Lee Gelernt, an ACLU attorney who argued many of the most high-profile cases during Trump’s first term. . . .

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/11/us/closed-border-trump-immigration-deportation/index.html

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Donald Trump has promised a closed border and mass deportations. Those affected are taking action now (Original Post) swag Nov 11 OP
Checking in with their members who voted for him, might be a good step AllyCat Nov 11 #1
They are citizens. AloeVera Nov 11 #3
Well, when their friends and family members who don't possess citizenship Aristus Nov 11 #7
Nope. Didn't say that. AllyCat Nov 11 #11
Stole my post AllyCat.... democratsruletheday Nov 11 #13
Ha. "Illegal" johnnyfins Nov 11 #2
of all his 'promises', i think this is the 1 he cares the least about. or i hope so. mopinko Nov 11 #4
Thank you. What do you think his most important priorities are? mahina Nov 11 #5
i've been thinking about that. short answer- the 1s where the money is. mopinko Nov 11 #9
I think many of these so-called policies are just money grabs dickthegrouch Nov 11 #6
I think for the "party faithful"... IrishAfricanAmerican Nov 11 #8
good point. mopinko Nov 11 #10
precisely....if he deports a mass # of people and they have NO where to go... democratsruletheday Nov 11 #15
My GUT says you're spot on 'mopinko'.... democratsruletheday Nov 11 #14
Going to be interesting. republianmushroom Nov 11 #12
He will accept money from Perdue to exempt their workers delisen Nov 11 #16
Latinos voted for this shit and now want to fight it AKwannabe Nov 11 #17
*Some* Latinos voted for it. Not the majority. And "Latinos" is not one monolithic group. We Ds LauraInLA Nov 11 #19
Private Prison Industries would make a fortune JoseBalow Nov 11 #18

AllyCat

(17,097 posts)
1. Checking in with their members who voted for him, might be a good step
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 08:41 AM
Nov 11

so they don't gum up the works. Put them first on the list.

Aristus

(68,327 posts)
7. Well, when their friends and family members who don't possess citizenship
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:22 AM
Nov 11

get deported, that will send a message.

Too late received, of course. But we learn these things the hard way…

AllyCat

(17,097 posts)
11. Nope. Didn't say that.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:41 AM
Nov 11

I don’t think any of them should get deported. But do you really think TCF’s regime is going to stop with just non-citizens?

democratsruletheday

(1,226 posts)
13. Stole my post AllyCat....
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 12:23 PM
Nov 11

verbatim. Shit's gonna get real and real quick for millions of Latinos. Didn't have to be this way of course.

mopinko

(71,797 posts)
4. of all his 'promises', i think this is the 1 he cares the least about. or i hope so.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:02 AM
Nov 11

i think he’ll make a show of it, deport some ppl. but he hires these ppl. and the reason immigration policy is what it is is that’s what the oligarchs want.
i think it will b like the wall- build enough to point at, then steal the money.

i might b wrong, as the ppl who will rly run things cd b more competent this time. or maybe not. no 1 who knows what they r doing will want to work for him.
that’s our only hope.

mopinko

(71,797 posts)
9. i've been thinking about that. short answer- the 1s where the money is.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:29 AM
Nov 11

something like this that wd cost a ton of money to actually do, money that will b paid to their friends, but it’s hard. it’s very very expensive. but there’s a lot of money in doing it half assed.

i think the 1s they’ll do the most damage to r the 1s where money is spent on we the ppl.
where u can just pull the rug out, long term damage b damned.
so i think bye bye aca, epa. other reg agencies defunded and filled w toadies. patronage run wild. i’ve said many times- it’s not so much the tax cuts as the reg cuts that the oligarchs want. so much more money there.

the real answer is- whatever the oligarchs want.

dickthegrouch

(3,547 posts)
6. I think many of these so-called policies are just money grabs
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:20 AM
Nov 11

His rich friends will build those concentration camps and then bill the taxpayers for every person admitted to them. Just like in Germany, the billing will continue but the people will just disappear. The actual deportation won’t happen, because the billing couldn’t happen if the person showed up as alive in some other country.
Every single one of us needs to befriend an undocumented person and raise hell if they aren’t allowed to communicate with us daily from ever camp they are sent to.

IrishAfricanAmerican

(4,170 posts)
8. I think for the "party faithful"...
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:24 AM
Nov 11

there will be a worker lease program run through the detention centers. In other words, they'll still get their undocumented workers.

democratsruletheday

(1,226 posts)
15. precisely....if he deports a mass # of people and they have NO where to go...
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 12:30 PM
Nov 11

it will be a humanitarian catastrophe unlike this country has ever seen. He couldn't care less about that cuz it's his fever dream but plenty of Republican politicians running for re-election in two years will care. Time will tell.

democratsruletheday

(1,226 posts)
14. My GUT says you're spot on 'mopinko'....
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 12:28 PM
Nov 11

and that he'll just deport a fringe minority to feed red meat to the Maga(t)s...but then I remember how much he hates people of color and think he's gonna go for it and then some.

delisen

(6,448 posts)
16. He will accept money from Perdue to exempt their workers
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 12:40 PM
Nov 11

The big employers of undocumented workers must must know they will have to pay off the Trump family to continue business as usual.

There will be political theater but emptying the chicken factories in all the red states is highly unlikely. Individuals however may be terrorized by Trump Neo-Nazis.

LauraInLA

(1,304 posts)
19. *Some* Latinos voted for it. Not the majority. And "Latinos" is not one monolithic group. We Ds
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 03:32 PM
Nov 11

need to be much more nuanced in our thinking and discussion about this.

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