Trump's border security plans face potential obstacle in Senate parliamentarian
Source: The Hill
11/11/24 6:00 AM ET
President-elect Trumps GOP allies in Congress want to jam tough immigration and border security reforms through the Senate using a special fast track known as budget reconciliation, but face a major obstacle in Senate Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough.
Shutting down the huge flow of migrants across the U.S.-Mexico border is one of Trumps top priorities, but Republican legislation that would make it harder for migrants to claim asylum and roll back protections for migrant minors under the Flores settlement faces a Democratic filibuster in the Senate. This has prompted a discussion among conservatives in the Senate and House over moving as aggressive a border-security package as possible under budget reconciliation, which would allow it to pass with a simple majority through the Senate.
Getting that done would depend on whether the Senate parliamentarian rules that it complies with the chambers Byrd Rule, which requires that legislation produce a change in spending or revenues and have a budgetary impact thats not merely incidental to the policy change.
A Senate GOP aide warned that that while funding for the border wall and more Border Patrol agents would easily be allowed in a budget reconciliation bill under the Senates rules, reforms to the nations asylum and parole laws, which Republicans say the Biden administration used to allow millions of migrants into the country, may not pass muster. Some of it could be possible, but a lot of it could fall to the merely-incidental rule, a Senate GOP aide said.
Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4983010-trump-border-security-reform/
33taw
(2,799 posts)Lonestarblue
(11,807 posts)There are no guardrails that will stop Trump or Republicans from doing whatever they want to do. None of them believe in the rule of law.
WestMichRad
(1,805 posts)Which is what I expect will be done as the first order of business in the new Senate.
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)Border crossings have been down substantially in 2024.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/10/01/migrant-encounters-at-u-s-mexico-border-have-fallen-sharply-in-2024/
Fullduplexxx
(8,254 posts)Or try to sell you BS on why the immigrants coming in now are okay
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)The consensus is that the mass deportation plan is unworkable. I think it's possible that he'll figure this out pretty quickly, make a lot of noise about it, make some token attempts, then do something like what you said.
He couldn't get the wall done, even with civilians volunteering to assist with/pay for construction in some areas and people throwing money at him for it.
Fullduplexxx
(8,254 posts)TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)He's already starting with the budget -- "there's no price tag."
Just because he says he's going to do something doesn't mean that it's logistically possible. He'll take credit for it, regardless.
Autumn
(46,280 posts)will finally get him to understand how tariffs actually work and he will proclaim he strong armed all the other countries into paying them and that threat will go poof. Never to be mentioned by the media again.
The tariffs are a political bomb waiting to go off, and I'm sure just about everyone (else) in the GOP knows that.
It's sad that we're at the "let's hope someone only slightly less abhorrent has some sense and can talk the crazy dude out of it" part of our country's history, but here we are. Again. "Nuking a hurricane wouldn't be a good idea, Mr. President."
Autumn
(46,280 posts)have a shred of intelligence away from him.
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)As bizarre as it seems, we lucked out (relatively) with the first term, because people around him were either incompetent or they were blunting his worst impulses. We can't really count on that again, and it was bad enough as it was.
Autumn
(46,280 posts)around there won't even be a rational General he will listen to.
eppur_se_muova
(37,388 posts)TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)The "the media never reports on anything" canard has grown beyond tiresome. It's almost always wrong, often ridiculously so, as in this case.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/30/politics/migrant-crossing-numbers-drop/index.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2024/08/10/july-immigrant-border-arrests-lower-than-trumps-last-month-in-office/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/10/07/illegal-crossings-border-migrants-drops/75553327007/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2024/08/16/united-states-mexico-border-apprehensions-july/
https://www.tpr.org/border-immigration/2024-09-18/cbp-migrant-apprehensions-between-border-ports-of-entry-in-2024-are-68-lower-than-in-2023
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/07/16/texas-border-migrant-apprehensions-decrease/
https://www.npr.org/2024/07/30/nx-s1-5051615/border-migrant-crossings-mexico-us-illegal-cbpone
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/border-crossings-us-mexico-border-june-2024/
https://abcnews.go.com/US/migrant-apprehensions-continue-decline-us/story?id=112261399
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/05/08/biden-immigration-border-crossings-decline/
https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/border-crossings-fallen-lowest-monthly-number-biden-presidency-rcna159777
Harker
(14,925 posts)Not much of an obstacle.