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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(115,244 posts)
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 06:15 PM Nov 11

Trump win means 'time has come' to annex parts of West Bank, Israeli minister says

Source: Washington Post

Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich welcomed President-elect Donald Trump’s electoral victory Monday, saying that “the time has come” to extend full Israeli sovereignty over the occupied West Bank.

He made the comment a day after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a recorded statement that he has spoken three times with Trump since the election and that they “see eye to eye on the Iranian threat.”

Israel’s conflicts in Gaza and Lebanon are set to dominate meetings in the Middle East and at the White House this week, after deadly Israeli airstrikes over the weekend highlighted the increasingly brutal toll.

On Monday, top officials from Arab and Islamic countries are meeting for a summit in Saudi Arabia’s capital, Riyadh, to “discuss the continued Israeli aggression on the Palestinian territories and the Lebanese Republic, and the current developments in the region,” according to Saudi state media.

Read more: https://wapo.st/4fik8bh

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Trump win means 'time has come' to annex parts of West Bank, Israeli minister says (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 11 OP
Hope the "Abandon Harris" coalition is happy with this move. IzzaNuDay Nov 11 #1
This clips from Airplane! comes to mind. nycbos Nov 11 #3
I see you one Airplane Clip and raise you another. Jk23 Nov 11 #26
It's not them who are going to find out Bettie Nov 11 #14
IIRC, at least some of these people have friends and family in the West Bank IzzaNuDay Nov 11 #15
Overall true, but some might have relatives there electric_blue68 Nov 11 #23
Not to worry after Trump gets into office there will be no Gaza and we will be at war with Iran Galraedia Nov 11 #24
They should contact Jill Stein. GoodRaisin Nov 12 #34
That's all they got and do they think Jill Stein will deliver? IzzaNuDay Nov 12 #35
That was my FIRST thought IND....buncha dopes democratsruletheday Nov 12 #42
NOW They'll Start Blaming Israel SoCalDavidS Nov 11 #2
Yeah. They do that stuff over there. LeftInTX Nov 11 #19
I think most of us expected this to happen. orange jar Nov 11 #4
I actually thought they would do it quite some time ago. SharonAnn Nov 11 #20
It's a violation of international law, but Israel regularly ignores that. Lonestarblue Nov 12 #36
Exactly. n/t iluvtennis Nov 11 #21
Trump is the reason there was no ceasefire Galraedia Nov 11 #25
And in other breaking news.... 33taw Nov 11 #5
Other than figuring they'll have the open support for the move moniss Nov 11 #6
Wonder how this is sitting with the Muslem voters CanonRay Nov 11 #7
From what I have seen many are happy they don't have to worry JI7 Nov 11 #13
So, how would this be different from Russia annexing Crimea? surfered Nov 11 #8
It's not iemanja Nov 11 #11
Radical Ideologues Want Turmoil, Not Peace. $$$ JJJ123 Nov 11 #9
I guess those protest voters showed us. Consider me shown. Scrivener7 Nov 11 #10
Hell, annex the whole thing and gza while you're at it Clouds Passing Nov 11 #12
Post removed Post removed Nov 11 #16
Yes, many of us care iemanja Nov 12 #32
I hope those who voted against Harris because of Gaza are paying attention. Martin68 Nov 11 #17
But this is what people assured me would never happen Orrex Nov 11 #18
Yes. I recall the slurs too for stating the goal in Gaza was ethnic cleansing. AloeVera Nov 12 #30
This was clearly the goal all along Orrex Nov 12 #39
But of course. AloeVera Nov 12 #44
They severed ties with the Democratic Party. LeftInTX Nov 11 #22
Nah, republicans hate muslims almost if not more than they hate black people Galraedia Nov 11 #27
They made their choice LeftInTX Nov 11 #29
Well dang, I worked with a Christian Palestinian. multigraincracker Nov 12 #40
Israeli action was always about a land grab. Aussie105 Nov 11 #28
And Jerod's beachfront Israeli resorts in Gaza Hassler Nov 12 #31
More land for Trump's golf resorts n/t AntiFascist Nov 12 #33
Glad those people who voted for Jill Stein Old Crank Nov 12 #37
Netanyahu said he would wait for trump Blue Full Moon Nov 12 #38
No one could have seen this coming, right? City Lights Nov 12 #41
I live in Michigan and can tell you that democratsruletheday Nov 12 #43
Mysogyny is why 73% of Muslims voted for 2 women. AloeVera Nov 12 #45
Trump's election is a green light for a wider conflict in the Middle East. patphil Nov 12 #46
Is it too soon, or too heartless to shout "WE FUCKING TOLD YOU SO!" Oopsie Daisy Nov 12 #47

IzzaNuDay

(601 posts)
1. Hope the "Abandon Harris" coalition is happy with this move.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 06:18 PM
Nov 11

They are about to receive the FO for the FA of abandoning Harris!

Bettie

(17,062 posts)
14. It's not them who are going to find out
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 07:25 PM
Nov 11

it's the Palestinian people currently living in the West Bank who will be killed to make room for the incoming Israeli citizens.

IzzaNuDay

(601 posts)
15. IIRC, at least some of these people have friends and family in the West Bank
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 07:30 PM
Nov 11

Would they choose to return and help their friends and families out when there is more genoside?

Galraedia

(5,167 posts)
24. Not to worry after Trump gets into office there will be no Gaza and we will be at war with Iran
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 11:31 PM
Nov 11

So Gaza won't be a campaign issue anymore as there will be no Gaza left.

democratsruletheday

(1,226 posts)
42. That was my FIRST thought IND....buncha dopes
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 10:05 AM
Nov 12

complete and utter idiots for getting in bed with Donold. They are screwed

LeftInTX

(29,996 posts)
19. Yeah. They do that stuff over there.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:45 PM
Nov 11

That's how Bibi got into power. They boycotted elections

Then they just get mad and commit more acts of terrorism. Rinse repeat.

orange jar

(878 posts)
4. I think most of us expected this to happen.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 06:24 PM
Nov 11

The only reason why this hadn't happened sooner is because they were waiting to see if Trump would win and subsequently give them his support.

Netanyahu is their version of Trump. Birds of a feather flock together.

Galraedia

(5,167 posts)
25. Trump is the reason there was no ceasefire
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 11:35 PM
Nov 11

The Orange Menace is going to allow Netanyahu to finish off Gaza so Jared can build a beach front hotel with money from the Saudis.

moniss

(5,706 posts)
6. Other than figuring they'll have the open support for the move
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 06:28 PM
Nov 11

it is not a shock that radical right wingers in Israel would call for this because that has been their openly stated position for decades. Gee I remember getting all kinds of nasty flack back about 11 months ago when I said this would be part of the right wing plan.

iemanja

(54,754 posts)
11. It's not
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 06:56 PM
Nov 11

That Trump will give the green light doesn't mean it's anything other than warmongering imperialism.

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

iemanja

(54,754 posts)
32. Yes, many of us care
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 01:59 AM
Nov 12

People are about to be thrown out of their homes and probably killed. How can a decent human being not care?

Martin68

(24,597 posts)
17. I hope those who voted against Harris because of Gaza are paying attention.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 09:51 PM
Nov 11

I've been trying to remind people that Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. That was a major move against the Palestinians.

Orrex

(64,101 posts)
18. But this is what people assured me would never happen
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:31 PM
Nov 11

At exactly that same moment that they were calling me a pro-Hamas antisemite for even suggesting that Netanyahu wanted such a thing!

Guess they need to call Bibi and tell him that he's the pro-Hamas antisemite. Plot twist!

AloeVera

(1,940 posts)
30. Yes. I recall the slurs too for stating the goal in Gaza was ethnic cleansing.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 12:08 AM
Nov 12

Now that people have been driven out from the north by starvation and terror, and the IDF has declared they will not be allowed to return - geez, where are all those righteously indignant folks? Will they take back those insults? I won't hold my breath.

Orrex

(64,101 posts)
39. This was clearly the goal all along
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 07:17 AM
Nov 12

I won't go so far as to claim that Netanyahu *wanted* Oct7 to happen, but--much like PNAC in the US--once the tragedy happened they were fully prepared to run with it.

It seems clear that annexation of Gaza was the goal all along, and Netanyahu's reassurances to the contrary were clearly false from the outset.


But wait! "This is all Hamas' fault, and they can stop it any time they want," I'm told.

AloeVera

(1,940 posts)
44. But of course.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 10:27 AM
Nov 12

It's why the ceasefire negotiations continued to be sabotaged by Netanyahu. A ceasefire would have prevented the ethnic cleansing, the completion of the destruction and deaths by war and pestilence.

October 7th presented the opportunity to create Greater Israel. As you say, just like 9/11 and PNAC. I think the results will be just as dire.

It dismays me not just that this was easily foreseen and could have been prevented, but also that I suspect that it was in fact likely foreseen and tolerated - even indirectly facilitated by the West. It also bothers me that even saying that makes me a terrorist supporter in the eyes of some.

So I just want to say I condemn Hamas!! Human shields!! Effing terrorist scum!!

LeftInTX

(29,996 posts)
22. They severed ties with the Democratic Party.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:54 PM
Nov 11

So maybe they should join the republican party now. If they hadn't severed ties with the Democratic Party we would be supporting them 100%. Now they are on their own or are going to have to get the republicans to help them..

multigraincracker

(34,068 posts)
40. Well dang, I worked with a Christian Palestinian.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 07:33 AM
Nov 12

He was throwing off his property by Illegal Settlers and his uncle was shot in the back by the IDF when he turned around to go back in the. house to get some papers. Those folks are never mentioned.

Old Crank

(4,635 posts)
37. Glad those people who voted for Jill Stein
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 05:53 AM
Nov 12

are now whooping it up, I'm sure.
Just what did they think would happen?
Perhaps Biden and Harris could have done more, maybe. But significant portions of elected congress favours an all in for Isreal position. So it is hard to clamp down on a foreign power.

democratsruletheday

(1,226 posts)
43. I live in Michigan and can tell you that
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 10:13 AM
Nov 12

most of the men simply wouldn't vote for a woman. Simple misogyny...they don't respect women in their culture and see them as second class citizens. So much so they voted against their own interests. I've done business with these guys and know how they think. I had one dumb ass tell me "we haven't gotten anywhere with Biden or Harris, might as well roll the dice with Trump". They're screwed in the head IMO and their votes went exactly as I thought they would. Sexist assholes for the most part.

patphil

(6,940 posts)
46. Trump's election is a green light for a wider conflict in the Middle East.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 11:26 AM
Nov 12

The goal has been obvious for a long time. Gaza and the West Bank are to be absorbed into Israel.
Ironically, the phrase, "from the river to the sea" has a new meaning as Palestinians are discovering. Trump will do nothing to stop the ethnic cleansing that the Netahyahu government is engaging in.
These two men are birds of a feather.


Oopsie Daisy

(4,500 posts)
47. Is it too soon, or too heartless to shout "WE FUCKING TOLD YOU SO!"
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 05:13 PM
Nov 12

I remember all the "Hope you enjoy Trump" taunts from the protesters who vowed to vote for him. I wonder if they're still feeling angry and defiant, or are they feeling a bit foolish and sheepish now?

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