Paraphrasing Stalin, I think.

America's getting grabbed by the .... and that should not surprise anyone.

Garland🙄

Time to wake up from this naivety.

...this wouldn't be happening. Of course these fascist clowns shouldn't be sworn in. But just what exactly is going to stop them? Who? How? We already refused to prosecute an insurrectionist and let him run for president with no strings attached, so...

the senate, house and state legislators. They basically abdicated the rule of law.

The Felon cannot be trusted with national security information, especially about our covert operatives. The missing maralago documents have likely already caused some of their deaths.

This would be an official presidential act, necessary for national security. Even if it broke the law, President Biden has immunity.

If Trump's compliance with certain PTA provisions is a statutory pre-condition for Trust getting national security information, than Biden can and should take steps to prevent the transmission of that information until the pre-conditions are met. But if the portions of the PTA that Trump isn't obeying aren't related to the transmission of national security information, and the law would require Biden to make that information available, then Biden can't successfully prevent it from being transmitted to the Trump transition team. Trump could go to the courts for an order directing Biden to comply with the law and if Biden didn't comply, the court would direct the entities that are in possession of that information to comply at risk of being held in contempt

In a well conducted covert operation, the identity of the accomplices and repository for the intel would remain unknown except to Biden and his accmplices.

The intel would be secure until a new president is in the White House is not treasonous.

Biden would make it clear he is responsible for this act, but he is immune.

Of course, the covert operation might not be possible, but the Trump cabal can't be trusted with national security secrets.

hold?

If Biden is under a legal obligation to do something, the courts can enjoin in from refusing to do it and while he'd be immune from criminal prosecution, the courts would direct those who actually are the custodians of the information to provide it

Plus nothing could stop Trump from getting his hands on anything and everything once he takes office, so this isn't happening. Biden certainly isn't going to allow himself to be accused of endangering national security by denying an incoming president with information they may need on day one in office.

My guess is that they created it with Trump-outgoing in mind and didn't even consider that he might be an incoming president.

I say that because she's incorrect - he isn't currently breaking the law. Because the law only puts obligations on the existing GSA/administration/etc. The only obligations placed on the president-elect are as a condition of receiving the assistance.

She drafted what she drafted (or had a role in drafting or supporting).

What's left is how it's interpretation is presented or understood, and it seems that there's a slip between the text and the popular understanding.

Notice that in the event, most of the intelligence security rests on an EO and upon inauguration Trump's in charge and cannot be denied clearance, or the authority to authorize clearance. Congressional statute cannot override Constitutional provisions.

when he wants a rule followed. Just bring this up and say FU.

at all? Merrick the Meek or just wait for the incoming stooge to do nothing?

Love it, and it does fit. As I shall call him from now on. Thank you.

Garland has pretty much always struck me like the guy who is there when something needs to be done, fails to do much and then writes a book about it years later about how he "would have done" this or that if he only had more time, resources etc.

Sort of the like the guy in a bar who watches a drunken patron attack the bartender and remains seated on his stool, or cowers some place, and then when the drunk is removed announces to everybody about how "if he came near me I would have kicked his ass" or "I was going to jump him but other people got there". "Would have" and excuses are the refuge of cowards.

You are polite with your description, I tend get a little harsher with mine. Thank you again.

Or have Susan Collins do it.

always chastened when I get those kinds of letters from people.

many of us feared.

How about that law Congress is attempting to pass, giving the president unilateral power to declare NGOs and "media" which I presume includes websites "terrorist organizations"? Or they could declare them "unpatriotic" in the next draft. That bill won't pass today, but it will blow through both houses in January.

We are going to see things we never thought possible for the United States. They really are going to do it.

intentionally grounding our face in the dirt. Him signing/agreeing wouldn't prevent him from anything. Not signing it is just one more way to drive that point home....

And it sounds like everyone's following the law? Trump's team haven't signed the agreements and are not engaged in a transition process.

This is a very confusing allegation. Is Warren saying that the law requires the incoming President to engage in the transition process? What would be the Constitutional basis of that?

with laws, and spell out the potential dangers any conflicts of interest may create.

Those are just for the little people. To put them in jail if they don't bow. Do dictator actually need to follow laws? If Trumpy Dumpy has a whim isn't that the law?

The Supremes have given him all the immunity from any laws his stinking soiled diapers will ever need.

Presidential transition laws be damned. This is a dementia ridden malignant narcissist who is control, just how Putin wanted.

I think I might just drop the gnashing of teeth part this time.

Oh, it's not that it isn't registering and sure, it's wrong. Of course he should be held accountable for is actions.

So, when is that going to happen?

How long am I supposed to stay outraged? Until the next law he breaks?

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The information in this article is a bit skimpy, imo. It doesn't say whether or how this law can be enforced.

If the law is enforceable, it should be enforced, period. If not, then, wtf was the point of passing it? Why would Elizabeth Warren go to all the trouble of writing and helping to pass a law that is unenforceable?

If any of this information is in the article and I missed it somehow, please point me to it. If not, I'm really disappointed in the author of this article for leaving so many unanswered questions.

As I read it - signing the agreements is a precondition of receiving the transition assistance from the GSA (and the funding that comes with it). If they're willing to go without that - they don't have to agree to anything.

And that brings me back to the "what is the point?" Part of my question. Which I don't expect anyone to be able to answer, but I can't help womdering.

It just makes no sense to me to make a point of proclaiming to the world that "OMG, Donald Trump is breaking the law!" If there's nothing anyone can actually DO to him for breaking it. It's not like HE cares how many laws he breaks, and his worshippers certainly don't care.

My reaction to this is making me realize that I'm a lot more cynical than I used to be. Gee Golly gosh, I can't imagine why.

To me - the better response is to just point out the risk - that the new administration won't be ready to hit the ground running.

Then when something goes wrong early in the year - we can draw attention to this as one reason why the new administration is already stumbling out of the gate.

There is no law now. Just the Will of Trump.

It seems that laws are not something that they ever follow or obey.

They do whatever they want and no one ever bothers to put a check on it.

All things inconvenient to the new incoming 'administration', so Trump's number 1 rule will be:

All previous rules will be ignored, amended or reversed.

I mean, we keep crying about "He can't do that!".Then he does it. And nobody can really do anything buy complain.