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(142,213 posts) Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:47 AM Nov 13

For All His Newfound Power, Trump Can't Save Steve Bannon This Time

Source: Daily Beast

Updated Nov. 13 2024 8:13AM EST / Published Nov. 13 2024 12:13AM EST

After a scheduling hearing for his upcoming fraud trial, self-styled right-wing warrior Steve Bannon stood outside Manhattan Criminal Court on Tuesday afternoon and threatened top law enforcement officers in the city, state, and nation. He mentioned in particular Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, New York State Attorney General Letitia James, U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland, Associate Attorney General Lisa Monaco and special prosecutor Jack Smith. “The hunted are to become the hunter,” he said.

One prosecutor Bannon did not mention was Audrey Strauss, who was acting U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New when she brought charges against Bannon and three codefendants for defrauding, in her words, “hundreds of thousands of donors, capitalizing on their interest in funding a border wall to raise millions of dollars, under the false pretense that all of that money would be spent on construction.”

Rather than be outraged by just the idea that anybody would hoodwink folks who reached into their own pockets to help Build The Wall, Trump pardoned Bannon in his final hours of his term. Trump did nothing for the others, who were all convinced in federal court. That included Brian Kolfage, an air force veteran who lost both legs and a hand to an enemy rocket in Iraq in 2004. He is presently serving a 51-month term in a bureau of prisons medical facility. He is not due to be released until September of 2026. He has two young children at home.

In a move that does seem a little more aggressive than simple enforcement of the law, AG James and DA Bragg stepped in and indicted Bannon on a state variation of the federal charges for which Bannon had been pardoned. That is the case that brought Bannon to court a week after the election. No matter how powerful Trump may now become, he cannot do anything about the state case.

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/for-all-his-newfound-power-trump-cant-save-steve-bannon-this-time/

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For All His Newfound Power, Trump Can't Save Steve Bannon This Time (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 13 OP

It has always been about the grift. surfered Nov 13 #1

"The hunted are to become the hunter," Dave Bowman Nov 13 #2

If I had just gotten out of prison and was araigned on additional felony charges maxrandb Nov 13 #17

He's so mean and dumb. Dave Bowman Nov 13 #20

This final sentence lays it out so very clearly: CaliforniaPeggy Nov 13 #3

What happens Rebl2 Nov 13 #5

I'm sure he will try. nt CaliforniaPeggy Nov 13 #6

When will bannon get "Epsteined?" MrWowWow Nov 13 #4

I think that is more likely to happen to Rudy Guiliani h2ebits Nov 13 #7

Giuliani is easy - just send him enough booze to pickle himself to death. erronis Nov 13 #11

Bannon likely doesn't have the same type of kompromat WestMichRad Nov 13 #12

We can only hope !!!! Trueblue1968 Nov 13 #19

If Trump in office sends sycophant troops to forcibly end the trial and protect Bannon..... tableturner Nov 13 #8

He's not going to send troops to New York to protect Steve Bannon. Elessar Zappa Nov 13 #14

Magats do not know Trump let Bannon steal $5 MM of their money for the Wall. GreenWave Nov 13 #9

Chump has no loyalty towards anyone, why would he care what happens to Bannon? FakeNoose Nov 13 #10

You are assuming a legal system will continue to exist. The Supreme... NNadir Nov 13 #13

Trump has no way to stop New York from enforcing state laws. Elessar Zappa Nov 13 #15

We'll find out, won't we? At the end of the day... NNadir Nov 13 #18

Syphi-lips Blue for the win Nov 13 #16

surfered

(3,077 posts)

1. It has always been about the grift.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:50 AM

Nov 13

Dave Bowman

(3,596 posts)

2. "The hunted are to become the hunter,"

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:54 AM

Nov 13

He's the Elmer Fudd type of hunter right now.

maxrandb

(15,879 posts)

17. If I had just gotten out of prison and was araigned on additional felony charges

Reply to Dave Bowman (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 01:30 PM

Nov 13

and then went out and threatened prosecutors that "they were going to be hunted", would I still be a free man, or in pre-trial confinement?

Dave Bowman

(3,596 posts)

20. He's so mean and dumb.

Reply to maxrandb (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 02:46 PM

Nov 13

Lock him up for a few years and he'll stop thinking that he's so clever.

CaliforniaPeggy

(152,069 posts)

3. This final sentence lays it out so very clearly:

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:06 AM

Nov 13

No matter how powerful Trump may now become, he cannot do anything about the state case.

Rebl2

(14,676 posts)

5. What happens

Reply to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:26 AM

Nov 13

if when he gets in the WH and changes laws so that he can get involved in state cases? Is it at all possible he will do that?

CaliforniaPeggy

(152,069 posts)

6. I'm sure he will try. nt

Reply to Rebl2 (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:46 AM

Nov 13

MrWowWow

(381 posts)

4. When will bannon get "Epsteined?"

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:08 AM

Nov 13

And will it happen at Rikers Island or Attica?

h2ebits

(765 posts)

7. I think that is more likely to happen to Rudy Guiliani

Reply to MrWowWow (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 12:09 PM

Nov 13

erronis

(16,825 posts)

11. Giuliani is easy - just send him enough booze to pickle himself to death.

Reply to h2ebits (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 12:46 PM

Nov 13

He's already 90% of the way there.

Bannon's liver might also get a kick.

WestMichRad

(1,805 posts)

12. Bannon likely doesn't have the same type of kompromat

Reply to MrWowWow (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 12:48 PM

Nov 13

… on TFG that Epstein had.

Trueblue1968

(18,112 posts)

19. We can only hope !!!!

Reply to MrWowWow (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 01:36 PM

Nov 13

tableturner

(1,753 posts)

8. If Trump in office sends sycophant troops to forcibly end the trial and protect Bannon.....

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 12:13 PM

Nov 13

....what could be done about it? Oh, you can say go to court, but even if his appointees rule against him, he can just ignore them. If the state of New York objects, he can just tell them to go to hell. He may even send troops to New York and seize the New York AG and Bragg, the DA. And of course, no matter what he does in his "official capacity", he will be immune from any countervailing actions.

What person or entity can or will force the trial of Bannon? NONE!

Elessar Zappa

(15,887 posts)

14. He's not going to send troops to New York to protect Steve Bannon.

Reply to tableturner (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 01:25 PM

Nov 13

GreenWave

(9,167 posts)

9. Magats do not know Trump let Bannon steal $5 MM of their money for the Wall.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 12:25 PM

Nov 13

Otherwise his lifeline is not so good.

FakeNoose

(35,657 posts)

10. Chump has no loyalty towards anyone, why would he care what happens to Bannon?

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 12:26 PM

Nov 13

With Chump the loyalty only goes one way - towards him. Steve is on his own now. So is Rudy.

NNadir

(34,654 posts)

13. You are assuming a legal system will continue to exist. The Supreme...

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 01:12 PM

Nov 13

...Court has declared the Constitution unconstitutional.

There isn't a functioning legal system anymore.

Elessar Zappa

(15,887 posts)

15. Trump has no way to stop New York from enforcing state laws.

Reply to NNadir (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 01:26 PM

Nov 13

Or any other state for that matter.

NNadir

(34,654 posts)

18. We'll find out, won't we? At the end of the day...

Reply to Elessar Zappa (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 01:32 PM

Nov 13

...I think the question may come down to whether the military takes their oath to defend the Constitution or whether it is willing to fire on its own people.

I don't think they'll be a Constitution in two months. I'm not sure there is one now.

Blue for the win

(81 posts)

16. Syphi-lips

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 01:28 PM

Nov 13

Syphi-lips hopefully we'll be headed for jail after all

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