Trump transition team compiling list of current and former U.S. military officers for possible courts-martial
Source: NBC News
Nov. 16, 2024, 5:52 PM PST
By Courtney Kube, Carol E. Lee, Vaughn Hillyard and Mosheh Gains
The Trump transition team is compiling a list of senior current and former U.S. military officers who were directly involved in the withdrawal from Afghanistan and exploring whether they could be court-martialed for their involvement, according to a U.S. official and a person familiar with the plan.
Officials working on the transition are considering creating a commission to investigate the 2021 withdrawal from Afghanistan, including gathering information about who was directly involved in the decision-making for the military, how it was carried out, and whether the military leaders could be eligible for charges as serious as treason, the U.S. official and person with knowledge of the plan said.
Theyre taking it very seriously, the person with knowledge of the plan said.
The Trump transition team did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-transition-team-compiling-list-current-former-us-military-office-rcna180489
swag
(26,523 posts)In mid-September, as tech billionaire Elon Musk intensified his efforts to elect Donald Trump as president, a wave of letters arrived at the Department of Transportation, asking the agency to turn over any emails and text messages that federal workers sent about the worlds wealthiest man and his sprawling technology empire.
The requests were like thousands of others sent in the past two years by Trump-allied groups seeking to identify perceived partisans within the federal government. Some have focused on diversity, equity and inclusion programs, others on employees who shared off the record information with reporters and on emails referencing climate change.
Its a massive fishing expedition that has already sent a chill through federal agencies bracing for Trumps second term.
Karasu
(93 posts)Comfortably_Numb
(4,108 posts)orangecrush
(21,780 posts)The Kool aid is strong.
Comfortably_Numb
(4,108 posts)Strong with this group.
Ain't nowhere left to go from here.
LudwigPastorius
(10,782 posts)Looks like the Trumpzis have a boner to establish the precedent of executing anyone they deem an enemy.
Do the deniers still think that "doomers" are exaggerating Trump's agenda?
24601
(4,013 posts)who does not have to be an attorney, is assigned to serve as Judge, Jury, Prosecutor, and Defense Counsel. As I was not an attorney, I recessed the court and sent the Soldier to speak with Area Defense Counsel before having him make a plea.
Special and General Courts Martial includes a full-time professional military judge who determines the law. Assigned court members may not be junior to the accused and are the jury that determines facts, including guilt or innocence. Except in wartime, only a General Court Martial may dismiss an officer - dismissal is the officer equivalent of a Dishonorable discharge.
Courts Martial implement the Uniformed Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), a unique military law passed by Congress and signed by the President. USMJ procedures are the Manual for Courts-Martial, promulgated by the President. The UCMJ applies to uniformed service personnel: Army, Marines, Navy, Air Force, Space Force, Coast Guard, NOAA, and the Commissioned Corps of the Public Health Service. The UCMJ does not apply to civilians like Presidents or Secretaries of departments that include uniformed services,
Consider these factors: The Joint Chiefs of Staff have no command authority. The officers in command, e.g., the Commander of USCENTCOM, were executing lawful orders from the Secretary of Defense. SECDEF received his orders from the President, and neither is subject to the UCMJ for actions in those roles. While a court could be convened, a conviction is improbable.
If they wanted to be particularly vindictive, they could direct the appropriate individual service secretary to consider administratively reducing an officer's retired rank to the last rank where the officer's service was satisfactory. This isn't uncommon.
DallasNE
(7,557 posts)The defense would invoke the two-party agreement Trump signed with the Taliban with hard dates for withdrawal. The State Department did not prepare a plan for the withdrawal they negotiated. This could blow up in Trump's face.
Mblaze
(379 posts)You made a pact with the Taliban to remove our troops from Afghanistan in February of 2020. Why did you not pull the troops while you were still President? You had nearly a full year to do it.
StarryNite
(10,821 posts)Puppyjive
(587 posts)Trump is an idiot. Is he going to send his bad ass people like Stephan Miller after these guys? He's a cry baby little punk who's going to get his ass kicked. Not too bright to try and punish a military leader who has loyal soldiers.
Botany
(72,473 posts). likely the Russians just to hurt Joe Biden and it killed Americans too.
SunSeeker
(53,649 posts)FakeNoose
(35,657 posts)He's got 2 months and then he's out. Our military leaders and service personnel don't deserve any of this.
liberalgunwilltravel
(515 posts)It will be a sad day for America if the asshole Trump incites another coup. However, if he does, it will be one of the last things he and his minions ever do.
DV1
(82 posts)I think Trump and his accomplices had better heed Mike Tyson's advice: "Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face."
Martin68
(24,597 posts)I hope Trump's over-reach will be his undoing.
C0RI0LANUS
(1,299 posts)NNadir
(34,654 posts)...hardly in world history.
republianmushroom
(17,612 posts)Vinca
(51,024 posts)This is nonsense. The military is led by civilian politicians and is required to follow their orders.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(115,244 posts)General Georgy Zhukov, a severe winter and allied aid are what saved his ass.
tonekat
(1,983 posts)As the response from those accused.
Kid Berwyn
(17,967 posts)Except they worked their treason from within.
LetMyPeopleVote
(154,421 posts)You cannot court martial an officer for following orders and it was trump's release of the Taliban leadership that led to the problems
oldmanlynn
(388 posts)Its more of a scare tactic to get generals more receptive to trump.
There has to be a legitimate reason for a court martial
gab13by13
(25,221 posts)It isn't just about court martialing them, they will lose their pensions. Anyone who speaks out against Trump's destruction of the military will now have 2nd thoughts.