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BumRushDaShow

(142,215 posts) Mon Nov 18, 2024, 07:43 AM Monday

Trump demands investigation of pollster who showed Iowa lead for Kamala Harris

Source: USA Today

Published 8:04 p.m. ET Nov. 17, 2024

WASHINGTON - President-elect Donald Trump on Sunday called for the investigation of an Iowa pollster over a bombshell pre-election survey that showed Vice President Kamala Harris leading in the deep red state. In a post on his Truth Social platform, Trump blasted the Nov. 1 poll results for causing "great distrust and uncertainty at a very critical time."

"She knew exactly what she was doing," Trump wrote of pollster J. Ann Selzer, 68, who announced her departure from political polling on Sunday.

Trump defeated Harris in Iowa by 13 points, 56% to 42.7%. But in the waning days of a pressure cooker campaign, Selzer's poll for the Des Moines Register, part of the USA TODAY Network, outraged the GOP and gave Democrats false hope ahead of what turned out to be a national Republican rout.

Trump on Sunday described the poll as "possible ELECTION FRAUD by Ann Selzer and the now discredited 'newspaper' for which she works," adding, "An investigation is fully called for!" Survey errors aren't known to violate criminal statutes. Asked if Trump was calling for a criminal investigation of the pollster, spokesman Steven Cheung replied: "President Trump was very clear in his Truth Social post."

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/11/17/trump-investigation-ann-selzer-iowa-poll-kamala-harris/76389559007/

Stochastic terrorism.

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Trump demands investigation of pollster who showed Iowa lead for Kamala Harris (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Monday OP

He's nuts and evil but it is still a curious question-- what happened there? LymphocyteLover Monday #1

She was accurate and the fix was in! End of story. Botany Monday #3

I hope someone can find some damn proof! LymphocyteLover Monday #14

Pretty soon, everyone will be afraid kerouac2 Monday #2

She already did on Sunday. n/t Hugin Monday #12

Yep Demovictory9 Monday #16

"National Republican Rout" Strelnikov_ Monday #4

She needs to find a way to sue him....hes trying to ruin the reputation of Karadeniz Monday #5

She cannot sue him. He is POTUS and immune from everything. Irish_Dem Monday #7

Of course she can sue him. onenote Monday #15

She missed it by 16 points MichMan Monday #11

Trump knows the pollster was 100% accurate. Irish_Dem Monday #6

That's how I read it, too. dchill Monday #8

She has the statistical proof that the election was stolen. Irish_Dem Monday #9

I remember the absolute tantrum Donnie threw on Truth Social when that poll was out Blue_Tires Monday #18

Well, she just quit as a pollster, but said her "decision predated the erroneous results"... PunkinPi Monday #10

Her life and career are on the line. Irish_Dem Monday #19

Fascist Theory of Justice: Opposing the state is a crime; the state has total immunity William Seger Monday #13

Sure, let's do a recount while we're at it. nt returnee Monday #17

We're to the point where King Donnie is literally making up Blue_Tires Monday #20

What a miserable little cry baby brat JustAnotherGen Monday #21

Why? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Monday #22

In the end, what the hell does it matter? Katinfl Monday #23

LymphocyteLover

(6,749 posts)

1. He's nuts and evil but it is still a curious question-- what happened there?

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 07:50 AM

Monday

Did she make a bad assumption in her methodology? Normally she's very reliable.

Or was she accurate and this was done before the fix was in?

Botany

(72,473 posts)

3. She was accurate and the fix was in! End of story.

Reply to LymphocyteLover (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 08:16 AM

Monday

That election was as honest and real as the snow on a Hallmark Christmas show.*

Very soon the truth will be treated like the fact that Hitler’s grandmother was Jewish
but if you said so you were in a world of hurt.

* In my fucked up mind this was the dirtiest election ever and Harris probably won in
a landslide.

LymphocyteLover

(6,749 posts)

14. I hope someone can find some damn proof!

Reply to Botany (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:41 AM

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kerouac2

(672 posts)

2. Pretty soon, everyone will be afraid

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 07:57 AM

Monday

To say or do anything that doesn't support him for fear of investigation. Pollsters, media, judges, you name it. This is how he controls elected officials. This is how he keeps those he has assaulted from speaking out. Wouldn't be surprised if this iowa pollster retires.

Hugin

(34,565 posts)

12. She already did on Sunday. n/t

Reply to kerouac2 (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:33 AM

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Demovictory9

(33,752 posts)

16. Yep

Reply to kerouac2 (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:16 AM

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Strelnikov_

(7,808 posts)

4. "National Republican Rout"

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 08:26 AM

Monday

Not quite.

Karadeniz

(23,414 posts)

5. She needs to find a way to sue him....hes trying to ruin the reputation of

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 08:41 AM

Monday

someone who published her methodology, that
method has a history of accuracy.

Irish_Dem

(57,309 posts)

7. She cannot sue him. He is POTUS and immune from everything.

Reply to Karadeniz (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 08:47 AM

Monday

The most she can hope for is to stay alive and find work in another profession.

onenote

(44,620 posts)

15. Of course she can sue him.

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:58 AM

Monday

He doesn't have immunity for things he does before he was president.
But its not clear what she would sue him for.

MichMan

(13,156 posts)

11. She missed it by 16 points

Reply to Karadeniz (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:31 AM

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Irish_Dem

(57,309 posts)

6. Trump knows the pollster was 100% accurate.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 08:46 AM

Monday

She of all people knows the election was rigged.
He must destroy her.

dchill

(40,467 posts)

8. That's how I read it, too.

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:17 AM

Monday

Irish_Dem

(57,309 posts)

9. She has the statistical proof that the election was stolen.

Reply to dchill (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:18 AM

Monday

He must destroy and discredit her and fast.

Blue_Tires

(55,776 posts)

18. I remember the absolute tantrum Donnie threw on Truth Social when that poll was out

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 01:06 PM

Monday

so that's how I know it was real...

And I'm still waiting to hear any explanation how a reliable and reputable pollster was SIXTEEN(!) percentage points off the mark ten days before the election...