conservative overlords. So we’ve had enough! That’s good

The Dems want the truth, not some half baked journalist interviewing another journalist about their opinion. Ughh!

Lots of places to get the real news without feeding the cable networks

So what if mush takes it over. Murdock is too well intrenched …it will be like OAN or some other terrible spin off

too. I'm not ready to cede all cable news to the MAGA crowd.

And MSNBC is currently owned by NBC, not Murdoch.

we don't think MSNBC is a better station than most, or that we don't need to have our views represented on cable.

It's time to let MSNBC go the way of Twitter and wait for the analogous Bluesky-version to pop up when it does.

What MSNBC shows were you watching?

And just cutting your nose off to spite your face.

Maddow, Lawrence ... even Nicolle Wallace are infinitely better than anything that would be offered by a Elon-run MSNBC.

It may be the next shopping network; it all depends on who buys it. At some point, something will come along to fill the market need vacated by MSNBC ealier in the year. Maybe it will be a rebranded MSNBC, itself; maybe not.

If Musk buys "XBC," or whatever the name will be, it will be one of a thousand right wing media outlets. It will be run poorly. It will die in the sea of competition.

Your assumption something will feel the void is just not correct. What makes MSNBC so effective, or has made it so effective, is that it's a foundational cable news network.

even if comcast NEVER sells it... they plan to turn it into something else... "Spinco" ( working name for the spin off cable channels ). It will not be associated with NBC and therefore, NBC news and reporters. So when spinco becomes real, it will only be talking heads talking to other talking heads. No NBC reporters, no field operations and camera crews. Probably we have seen the last of Ali velshi reporting on a hurricane or a major protest or school shooting. So sure, they can invite WaPo reporters on to talking head interviews so they reporter can hawk their next book... but that's about it.

Losing the "news' means we MSNBC watchers will have to get our hard news from another source ( NBC, CBS, ABC, Faux for those who like their news with whipped lies on top, and sad little CNN ).

Cable is going away... I just attended a pre-thanksgiving at a friends place... most of the people there were younger... after dinner we told each other a few entertaining stories... and then one by one they all switch to staring at their phones... and that's my queue to make my excuses and leave. The under 40s get their fix from the apps and X and tiktok and their favorite "influencer" than actual news from actual unbiased people that studied journalism ( or at least tried ).

Not to mention that pre-Deadline White House in the afternoon, there isn't a single person on worth watching that isn't trying to sane wash or otherwise make Trump seem like a reasonable person and his whack job stupid ass voters need to be listened to. Complete with accepting the trump premise that immigrants ( legal or not ) are a big problem that needs to be addressed and that inflation is killing us and that crime is out of control. As for Morning Joe... never trusted Joe and Mika should never again be allowed to even say "know your worth" because she clearly thinks of herself as worthless.

I will watch Deadline White House, Chris Hayes, Rachael when she is on, Lawrence, and Velshi and Stephanie Rhule. They are all headed to podcast hell anyway... just like Keith Olbermann... say goodbye to those $20M a year contracts Rachael.

It’s really the only place I trust, even partially, and I like the same prime time shows you mentioned.

But I’ve gotta admit, I’m still pissed off that Rachel Maddow doesn’t want to be on Monday through Friday anymore. That’s one helluva platform she turned her back on. Especially when it MADE her as a high-value talking head.

There is a reason it is for sale. Mistakes were made; I didn't make them. I don't have the cash to buy it. If I did, I wouldn't.

We have to find other sources for our news and find ways of cutting through propaganda coming from all sides.

And allowed that filth maggot to do and say anything that came to his demented mind with very little pushback if they reported it at all. We must be able to counter the lies and propaganda or we will lose our democracy. I canceled my Washington post subscription, we are going to have to make some uncomfortable changes if we value our freedom.

They bought into the drama . They are not liberal, they are owned by a conglomerate and they will do their masters bidding. The media in this country sane washed a pervert and traitor, they elevated Elon musk above his station and we will all pay the price.

are also rich and conservative, basically the same problem all M$M right now....

actually watch the channel before taking a position.

There is no way Maddow, Wallace, O'Donnell, Reid etc. lied and cajoled for anyone. Even Morning Joe was a fierce critic of Trump.

But the show is still calling things out.

for sucking up to TRAITOR** in 2015/16.

Too many people today expect the real media like MSNBC to play favorites. Sorry, but they don't. Do they report things we don't like to hear? Yes, but that's to be expected when you report facts. Journalism doesn't play favorites like Murdoch does.

Hopefully, MSNBC will continue to do what they always have. I understand that their viewship has dropped. I haven't turned it on since the election, but not because I hate MSNBC. It's election depression. The same thing happened to me in 2016.

People shouldn't give up on MSNBC. That's the list thing we need. Real journalism needs to be supported, not shunned.

Because I watched them often and they were doing everything as close to shouting "Vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz" as they could. They took down trump at every opportunity and I never saw any normalizing of him. What more did you want? What did their "viewers" want that they didn't get? Or are you just anti media because they're owned by a big corporation?

We don't need more Trump/Putin TV.

Something about a wolf in sheep’s clothes.

to alternative sources. Something will rise from it's ashes.

The Democratic view and perspective. If that goes away so does part of our truth propaganda capability

That little visit to trump did not help them. If you look at the history of that channel you will see they would only allow certain truths. Phil Donahue .

I understand Walter Cronkite, Bernard Shaw, and journalists who report the news. I also understand infotainment which is designed to pump up emotions for ratings. Katy tur was on Michael Cohens speed dial. I am not invested in pseudo journalistic personalities, i don’t want opinions I want the truth and MSNBC is not my first ,last or anything in between choice. If I you are satisfied with their entertainment I hope you continue to enjoy. But I demand a lot more from my news sources.

it's just fine with you if Elon Musk grabs a major cable news channel.

This is yet another example of a progressive letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Is an entitled jerk. I despise Tesla because he’s a master bull shitter and anything he supposedly makes frightens me. I’m a lot more worried about what he can do to our country with his billions. Musk buying MSNBC is not going to shake the world or be noticed by most Americans. Losing real news that reports facts rather than opinions might lead to the demise of democracy. Sometimes when I see these opinion programs I feel like I’m watching a verbal wwf wrestling match.

voted for Kamala more than every other age group. We just had an election that was decided by just 1.6% of the voters, so it makes no sense to give up on cable news now.

Very small. If they were all in the swing states it would not make any difference.
Because you are invested in it, you are giving it greater importance than it deserves. If it gives you pleasure or comfort enjoy. I am not afraid of losing another talking head channel, I am worried about the propaganda permeating the internet. Many people get their voting info from facebook, friends, workplace and church.

that leads you to believe that without MSNBC the results wouldn't have been any worse; and that losing MSNBC would have no impact on the Democratic total next time.

The popular vote is irrelevant only the electoral votes count. Andrea Mitchell saying Biden was too old and slipping in republican talking points. I’ve given you instances of them being less than honest. I hope we get real honest reporting and investigative journalism and not talking heads . I don’t care what happens to MSNBC, the majority of people who are liberal don’t care only a few
People are concerned about it . Feel free to continue supporting it, but I have better things to do. My Meyer lemon tree is having babies and I must oversee the delivery today .

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I listened in a few nights between the debate and the election. I heard a lot of bemoaning of inflation, and a bit about saving democracy and abortion rights. It was a presentation that seemed designed to look sympathetic to Democrats, but In actuality was the same drumbeat of doom that every RW station was blaring.

Is Biden too old ? Let’s have a discussion. Should Biden drop out? They were just asking innocent questions designed to frame the narrative.

Most - esp the young - get all their news online now. You don’t have to sit in front of a tv - you can listen while working, driving , cleaning etc and get in-depth podcasts - instead of 5 minutes on a topic, you can get 2 hrs on a topic you are interested in.

I don’t see him buying a dying medium.

I know it's impossible to just crawl in a hole for four years but I just can't deal.

TV "news" doesn't exist anymore. They're all just vehicles for shareholder profit.

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We can no sooner do our own journalism than untrained people can do their own research- tough if you consider researching asking Google rather than doing science or reading real research. We don't have the tools to do it even if we had time.

If there aren’t journalists, we might as well play checkers

Too good !!!
Bravo

until the problems rush in. The viewers will be back

I for one blame much of the media for refusing to ficus on what trump’s policies would mean for government and the lives average people. Few of them bothered to explain what was in Project 2025. Even fewer spent any time reporting the accomplishments of the Biden Administration or to refute Trump’s lies that inflation and mortgage rates were the highest on record.

So what has MSNBC or any major media done to earn our viewership?

Instead they ran around interviewing Trump supporters. I found myself watching less and less and now just don’t tune in. I don’t care about their editorializing. Get out in the field and report the facts. Show where the money went from the infrastructure plan, the reduction in med prices etc…

that have been completed or that are still on going.
They could show, by using easy to read graphs, how well the US did compared to other nations in bringing back jobs, and especially in easing inflation. The Harris campaign should’ve hammered this home as well in their campaign ads. I never saw any of this info in their ads.

What hosts did you watch?

With Rachel, Lawrence, and Chris Hayes. I can't watch them in the daytime, nor Weekends.

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the time-some evening shows.

I barely tune into cnn.

Maybe I will get my interest back in politics -eventually. Although I do scan the news on the internet, I seem to have just lost interest--for now

I used to listen to Brian Lehrer (WNYC--our local public radio) regularly because he did NOT discuss the orange menace. Since the election he's been talking about it every day, so I don't listen there either.

did anything wrong this election. For me it was an easy choice and no forensic examination of the Party is needed.

I hope MSNBC hangs around. I don't care for podcasts or tiktok or any of the other popular social media.

Just an old guy who appreciates civility, truth, and cannot understand why or how so many people could elect Trump once again after seeing what he did in his last term.

Because the low road is always the way to prosperity quick as a wink. Even if it is an unfortunate necessity.

build a 24/7 cable network to counter FOX's programming as MSNBC's 644,000 viewership is dwarfed by FOX's 3.2 million and growing number of viewers watching and obviously internalizing their winger programming and lies, given the outcome of the election.

We need help.

Can't give up though as the maga fascists and their coming kakistocracy with trump atop it is bound to screw up bigly.

Maybe I'll come back at some point, like 2029, or when MFer drops dead.

I simply cannot take any more outrage bait.

is a privileged airhead and Joe is a loudmouth.

Which I don't understand as she is the most intelligent of the bunch and provides some of the BEST in-depth analysis of what is happening.

But, DU has also taken a hit and the numbers are down too. Burnout? Anger? Sadness? Fear? Depression? Who knows.

I know in our house the news is almost never on now and watching political shows and clips is way down, almost zero.

I'll watch ABC 7 (NYC) or ABC 6 (Philly) for local coverage. World News on Cibor or BBC World

I've seen enough. It's the same old shit, with the same commercials. I'm really tired of opinion. I just want news.

I really don't want you see boner pill ads with my news.

I won't shed a tear.

I do watch Nicole, Rachel, and Lawrence fairly regularly--Joy Reid and a couple of others less so. The rest, meh. Ari Melber has pissed me off too many times--I'm done. Chris is okay, but I just don't have the urge... and Stephanie comes on way too late.

I don't want us to lose MSNBC, but my sanity is more important overall. Given some Progressive billionaires inquired after Musk's post, I don't think we are at risk of losing it on the short term, at least. And, if they clean the house of the "Katy Turs," and a few others, I won't be too devastated.

What specific lies were told by MSNBC?

what we should have done, etc. isn't going to help now. It's like we going through the different stages of death. Let us going through this stages, all of us, and reconcile ourselves to the future that is to come.

I do say that it's time to move on, from Pres. Biden and all of those candidates related to the Biden era. Their time has come and gone, and Pres. Biden and VP Harris have done their duty to this Country because of their love for this Country. And I daresay that tRUMP is probably likely to pass on, his (at 78 now) life expectancy is nine years old. I personally don't think that his health is very good, because that he doesn't exercise or eat right.

But I only start at 1 pm pacific when Nicole comes on.

Reminds me too much of what we lost. Maybe in a few months.

….wont be perfect but worth a whirl. And a mandatory civics test for all Americans. Let's have a Tv show to prep the folks and help clean up this mess TV has created. Maybe with a lottery, contestants and some little kids. 😘

it would make a big difference. There aren't a handful of Republicans who can even spell Constitution.

CNN when most of the talent started to cozy up to the crazy of MAGA and Fat Donnie. I'm doing the same thing now with Morning Joe. Those two are willing to suck at the orange sphincter to save their asses. I'm still watching the others until they also fold for their own preservation.

I know the nightmare that is coming and hearing and reading about it is to painful.

1/2 hr 6pm local news, 1/2 David Muir and GMA in the morning. We turn the sound off on GMA at the beginning when they talk about
45. We eat, I'm on here reading and my wife is doing worddle while the rest of the show is on and we're getting ready to do something for
the day.

They said he wants to be a dictator.

...

I think of all the hosts letting us know what Trump was up to. How about Rachel, Lawrence, Joy, et al. I’ve stopped watching only because I can’t listen to any political news right now. Not because of the hosts. I feel bad for them. They will proabably lose their jobs and it will turn into another Fox News.

Most of MSNBC's viewers are lefties, including me. Most lefties
are not watching any news because it's just bad,bad,bad. Once
the Repubs take over and really start doing things their viewers
will come back, that is if they don't acquiesce.

since right before the election. I check the headlines here, but little has motivated me to click on a news link.

There really isn’t anything I can do as it is.

It's a bit slow but Thom Hartman's Youtube channel has some interesting topics, but as you say there is no democratic leaning channel.

It's just him, though.

MSNBC has a lot of personalities to watch or not.

But, Thom would be a good alternative.

Thanks.

Before I go bock to MSNBC !

any news including Morning Joe etc. Right winger billionaires own the media. We need a left leaning billionaire to step up now. There is no balance.

Kinda feel like, what's the point? I don't need to hear from the MSNBC bubble about anyone associated with trump. I know they are all terrible and every decision that will be made will be terrible. I'll stick to reputable news articles in moderation.

I did all I could before the election.

I went on X to challenge the disinformation.
They filtered my posts out.

MAGA, Republicans, Musk & Trump don't care what we have to say.

Their efforts over the next two years will be to consolidate their grip on power.

They control the House, Senate, SCOTUS and White House.
I do not see anything meaningful I can do to stop them.
The election is over and so maybe, I fear, is the democracy.

I'll start watching again since tsf and his crew are trying to destroy all liberal news from existence. They are going after the funding for NPR and in sure PBS will follow. I do have recurring donations to both on monthly basis. But NSNBC is yje only cable (( mainstream) liberal Station left. The newspapers will capitulate and publish whatever they are told to.

to watch too especially Joy, Lawrence and Al Sharpton.. It's what they want us to do, tune out, don't pay attention, while they shovel out propaganda to those FOX viewers who will keep on believing their lies. And we are the majority!!

I know there are other independent news sources, but then again that swill that they (Right wing propaganda) repeat will make people more ignorant.

I will not watch morning Joe tbough. They need to go. All they are now are mouthpieces.

we are that, emotional and we care about our country. We all felt the knife go in, but we cannot let these bastards take us under. Someone posted "we need a patriot" hmm..... one person is not going to save us, we have to save ourselves.

watch Free Speech TV? {FSTV} I record Thom Hartmann & Rick Smith is good too. Coffee in the am w/ Stephanie Miller. Msnbc is owned by rw greedy bastards. Miss the days of Ed Shultz and Rachael when she still had a best new thing or the more you know. Will only watch Capehart and Lawrence now. We really need the money to come in for radio & FSTV to try and neutralize this propaganda. Get the damn TRUTH out there to these idiots. Recalibrate their bullshit meters!

Otherwise we are shooting ourselves. Please do watch despite complaints. Joy Reid, Alex Wagner, Lawrence ODonnell, Rachel Maddow, and Hayes need to be supported.

Do not let Russia happen to us. We are falling into fascist trap if we do not support liberal media even if we disagree with some things they say.

He comes across as sane and sensible.

In fact, it was a while before my soul felt well enough to check DU again, or skim Yahoo News in the morning. As time passes I'm in here more often, but definitely not like before. Affairs of the world will go on whether I know about them or not. My world changed on election night.

I feel exactly the same way. Something is different this time. Something is really wrong 😔

Nice to meet you, too, Talitha!
Happy to be here and so glad I found a place to be with like-minded people.

Enjoy watching your old movies. 😊