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(21,016 posts) Thu Nov 28, 2024, 02:48 PM Nov 28

Bannon changes tune on Musk, says he's 'impressed'

Source: The Hill

Bannon changes tune on Musk, says he’s ‘impressed’

by Lauren Irwin - 11/27/24 9:57 PM ET

President-elect Trump’s former political strategist, Steve Bannon, appears to have changed his tune on tech billionaire Elon Musk, saying he’s “impressed” with the new Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) co-chair.

Bannon said Wednesday on his “War Room” podcast that he credited Musk with Trump’s election victory and recalled his recent interview with Puck News.

“I told them one thing has impressed me with Elon,” Bannon said, highlighted by Mediaite. “And look, we have huge ideological differences, including about the Chinese Communist Party, let’s put a pin in that for a second.”

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Without Musk donating millions to Trump’s campaign and his get-out-the-vote efforts for “the low propensity voters,” Trump wouldn’t have had “the massive victory,” Bannon said.

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Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5013748-bannon-changes-tune-musk-says-hes-impressed/

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Bannon changes tune on Musk, says he's 'impressed' (Original Post) OKIsItJustMe Nov 28 OP

But Bannon himself is a POS. Sneederbunk Nov 28 #1

I wish DU would ban anything of bannon, he's a felon, who ripped off people, went to jail, and did his time, and will go SWBTATTReg Nov 28 #2

Ignorance of what people like Bannon are up to is not helpful OKIsItJustMe Nov 28 #3

I understand but it's helpful to know even Bannon thinks he moved the race greatly, mahina Nov 28 #4

I mean, Trump is also a felon, and it would be completely impossible to ban all mention of him. Especially now. Karasu Nov 29 #22

$$$ speak easy Nov 28 #5

There is no such thing as the department of government efficiency. Ms. Toad Nov 28 #6

Yep TimeToGo Nov 28 #7

Yep TimeToGo Nov 28 #8

Department of Government Efficiency (DoGE) OKIsItJustMe Nov 28 #9

My point is that media needs to call them on it Ms. Toad Nov 28 #10

Oh! You must be a member of the "Reality-based community!" - How sweet! OKIsItJustMe Nov 28 #12

boy, wouldn't it be great if congress bothered taking a vote on this. they won't...but it would be great if they did. nt orleans Nov 29 #16

And, if the 14th can simply be ignored, why not the 22nd as well? OKIsItJustMe Nov 29 #17

I'm very, very much afraid that's where we're heading. Karasu Nov 29 #21

That's a lot clearer n/t Polybius Nov 29 #29

That's if Congress first convicts him of insurrection Polybius Nov 29 #28

No, that's not necessary OKIsItJustMe Nov 29 #30

"The Court noted, however, that states retain concurrent authority to enforce Section 3 with respect to state offices" Polybius Nov 29 #31

It doesn't need to have been declared an insurrection. Nor does he even have to have taken par in it. OKIsItJustMe Nov 29 #33

Someone has to determine it an insurrection Polybius Nov 29 #34

Apropos of very little OKIsItJustMe Nov 28 #14

Bannon needs to go the fuck away lonely bird Nov 28 #11

Nobody is getting stripped of citizenship. jimfields33 Nov 29 #26

Well, there's a ringing endorsement. LisaM Nov 28 #13

But that would encompass the entire administration. Karasu Nov 29 #19

Washed-up fascist kisses newer, more popular fascist's ass. News at 11. Karasu Nov 29 #15

Who gives a fuck? NEOBuckeye Nov 29 #18

Underestimate your opponents at your peril OKIsItJustMe Nov 29 #20

Oh believe me, I'm not. NEOBuckeye Nov 29 #23

Good question RandiFan1290 Nov 30 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author moniss Nov 29 #24

As if I give a shit. (nt) Paladin Nov 29 #25

"And look, we have huge ideological differences, including about the Chinese Communist Party" Polybius Nov 29 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM Nov 29 #32

Bannon...says he's 'impressed' LudwigPastorius Nov 30 #35

Sneederbunk

(15,392 posts)

1. But Bannon himself is a POS.

Reply to OKIsItJustMe (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2024, 02:53 PM

Nov 28

SWBTATTReg

(24,332 posts)

2. I wish DU would ban anything of bannon, he's a felon, who ripped off people, went to jail, and did his time, and will go

Reply to OKIsItJustMe (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2024, 03:25 PM

Nov 28

back again to jail soon for another crime. If we're going to put him on the air here at DU, at least cover his scummy face w/ a paper bag so I don't have to look at the troll. And yes, I know that I'm not being nice to him. He doesn't deserve it compared to the literally millions of us out there that are far nicer to other human beings.

OKIsItJustMe

(21,016 posts)

3. Ignorance of what people like Bannon are up to is not helpful

Reply to SWBTATTReg (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 28, 2024, 03:38 PM

Nov 28

I apologize if that is offensive to you.

Bannon has Trump’s ear, and is crediting Musk with Trump’s win.

mahina

(19,043 posts)

4. I understand but it's helpful to know even Bannon thinks he moved the race greatly,

Reply to SWBTATTReg (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 28, 2024, 04:06 PM

Nov 28

though it is obvious.

Karasu

(368 posts)

22. I mean, Trump is also a felon, and it would be completely impossible to ban all mention of him. Especially now.

Reply to SWBTATTReg (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 29, 2024, 02:56 AM

Nov 29

Such a policy isn't remotely feasible.

speak easy

(10,702 posts)

5. $$$

Reply to OKIsItJustMe (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2024, 07:06 PM

Nov 28

Ms. Toad

(35,616 posts)

6. There is no such thing as the department of government efficiency.

Reply to OKIsItJustMe (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2024, 08:24 PM

Nov 28

The press needs to be called on it every single time they pretend Trump can create a government department out of whole cloth.

TimeToGo

(1,388 posts)

7. Yep

Reply to Ms. Toad (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 28, 2024, 10:22 PM

Nov 28

Driving me up the wall

TimeToGo

(1,388 posts)

8. Yep

Reply to Ms. Toad (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 28, 2024, 10:23 PM

Nov 28

Driving me up the wall

OKIsItJustMe

(21,016 posts)

9. Department of Government Efficiency (DoGE)

Reply to Ms. Toad (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 28, 2024, 10:37 PM

Nov 28

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Government_Efficiency#Functions

Despite the name, it will not be a federal executive department, which is created through an act of Congress, and is to be an advisory body operating outside of government. …

Ms. Toad

(35,616 posts)

10. My point is that media needs to call them on it

Reply to OKIsItJustMe (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 28, 2024, 10:43 PM

Nov 28

Every time that Trump or his cronies pretend that have the authority to create a government department. Don't normalize this creative fiction be repeating it without a prominent correction.

OKIsItJustMe

(21,016 posts)

12. Oh! You must be a member of the "Reality-based community!" - How sweet!

Reply to Ms. Toad (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 28, 2024, 10:51 PM

Nov 28

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community

Hell, the 14th amendment says that Trump can’t even serve without a ⅔’s majority of both houses giving a pass.

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-14/#amendment-14-section-3

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Section 3

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

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orleans

(35,260 posts)

16. boy, wouldn't it be great if congress bothered taking a vote on this. they won't...but it would be great if they did. nt

Reply to OKIsItJustMe (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 29, 2024, 01:24 AM

Nov 29

OKIsItJustMe

(21,016 posts)

17. And, if the 14th can simply be ignored, why not the 22nd as well?

Reply to orleans (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 29, 2024, 01:31 AM

Nov 29

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-22/

Twenty-Second Amendment
Section 1

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

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Karasu

(368 posts)

21. I'm very, very much afraid that's where we're heading.

Reply to OKIsItJustMe (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 29, 2024, 02:54 AM

Nov 29

Polybius

(18,364 posts)

29. That's a lot clearer n/t

Reply to OKIsItJustMe (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 29, 2024, 09:35 AM

Nov 29

Polybius

(18,364 posts)

28. That's if Congress first convicts him of insurrection

Reply to OKIsItJustMe (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 29, 2024, 09:34 AM

Nov 29

They didn't, nor did any federal courts. Officially, he's not an insurrection, although 1/6th looks sure makes him look like one.

OKIsItJustMe

(21,016 posts)

30. No, that's not necessary

Reply to Polybius (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 29, 2024, 11:30 AM

Nov 29

Go back and read it:

… shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. …

The Supreme Court did not question whether or not the 14th amendment applied. They said it wasn’t up to the individual states to enforce it against federal candidates.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt14-S3-2/ALDE_00000070/

In reaching its decision in Trump v. Anderson, the U.S. Supreme Court observed that Congress enjoys power to enforce the Amendment through legislation pursuant to Section 5 of the Fourteenth Amendment, and reasoned that Section 5 grants Congress alone the authority to provide for the enforcement of Section 3 against federal officeholders and candidates. The Court noted, however, that states retain concurrent authority to enforce Section 3 with respect to state offices.

The default position of Section 3 is that he cannot serve, unless it is overridden by ⅔’s majority votes in both houses.

Polybius

(18,364 posts)

31. "The Court noted, however, that states retain concurrent authority to enforce Section 3 with respect to state offices"

Reply to OKIsItJustMe (Reply #30)

Fri Nov 29, 2024, 01:37 PM

Nov 29

It is not a state office. The Supreme Court in June said Congress needs to convict a President, and it was unanimous. The 14th should have been more clear. It was poorly written.

Also, with all due respect, just because YOU view it as an insurrection does not make automatic.

OKIsItJustMe

(21,016 posts)

33. It doesn't need to have been declared an insurrection. Nor does he even have to have taken par in it.

Reply to Polybius (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 29, 2024, 03:44 PM

Nov 29

… shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. …

https://openyls.law.yale.edu/bitstream/handle/20.500.13051/11345/27_27YaleLJ331_1917_1918_.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y

WHAT IS GIVING AID AND COMFORT
TO THE ENEMY?
CHARLES WARREN
Washington, D. C.

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In Young v. United States it was held that the words "aid or comfort to the rebellion" as used in the Captured and Abandoned Property Act of March 12, 1863, in the Civil War, were used in the same sense as in the Constitution defining treason--"that is to say, in their hostile sense"; and in that case, where a man contracted with the government of the State of North Carolina to provide warlike supplies and to aid in running cotton out through the blockade, and performed acts carrying out his contract, it was held that the acts were clearly treasonable.

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Polybius

(18,364 posts)

34. Someone has to determine it an insurrection

Reply to OKIsItJustMe (Reply #33)

Fri Nov 29, 2024, 06:16 PM

Nov 29

Otherwise a Republican Congress could simply deem a Democrat President an insurrectionist.

The 14th Amendment was made with the Civil War in mind, and was horrifically written. The SC thankfully cleared it up.

I know you mean well, but on this issue, it's over. We lost.

OKIsItJustMe

(21,016 posts)

14. Apropos of very little

Reply to Ms. Toad (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 28, 2024, 11:21 PM

Nov 28

A lovely little song from Klaatu:

lonely bird

(1,972 posts)

11. Bannon needs to go the fuck away

Reply to OKIsItJustMe (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2024, 10:49 PM

Nov 28

Strip him of his citizenship and send his ass to Russia.

jimfields33

(19,314 posts)

26. Nobody is getting stripped of citizenship.

Reply to lonely bird (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 29, 2024, 08:15 AM

Nov 29

And to be honest, God help us if that becomes a thing. I doubt we will like it during the next four years. I can just imagine how giddy trump would be to have that ability.